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OpenSUSE had a repository and 1-Click Install setup for the Steam Linux Beta. It was taken down by the OBS team due to lack of clarity in licensing according to this. Before that you could convert the .deb into an .rpm using alien or other tools, though. I've been playing TF2 using the native Linux client on openSUSE 12.2 since before the Steam Beta was opened and it is really very simple to workaround for most distros if you do not want to use Ubuntu.

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

Fedora is late, as usual, due to its lack of manpower. Compare with the amount of desktop environments supported in openSUSE:

* Afterstep http://software.opensuse.org/package/afterstep
* cinnamon http://software.opensuse.org/package/cinnamon
* GNOME 2 and 3: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_repositories
* KDE 3 and 4: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
* LXDE http://en.opensuse.org/LXDE_repositories
* MATE http://en.opensuse.org/MATE
* Qt Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/package/razorqt
* sugar http://software.opensuse.org/package/sugar
* xfce http://software.opensuse.org/package/patterns-openSUSE-xfce

Lots of window managers, too: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/windowmanagers/openSUSE_12.2

You might not want to hear this but KDE is a memory hog in general. This project, like many other Linux based ones, will suck big-time and ultimately fail depending on who you talk to.

I've only really attempted to remove them from the systems (openSUSE mostly), not disable them.

Nepomuk and Akonadi are optional at compile time -- have always been and there are no plans to change that. Distributors choose to compile and ship them enabled because they feel that their target audience will find them convenient to use (and most people actually do not complain).
If disabling them is not enough for you and you really like to save the handful of MB disk space they consume because you use a PC from the 1990s, get on https://build.opensuse.org/ , branch the KDE repo, change the build settings yourself and after a day or so of building install the packages from your OBS home repo.

There are several Linux distributions directed at education/schools. Most (All?) based on existing distributions with different packages installed.

http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Education is just one of them. Using SUSE studio makes it easy to make your own.

Before SUSE Studio, there was Lincat for Catalunia. http://linkat.xtec.cat/portal/index.php. They have moved to openSUSE edu.

Once they fix [Akonadi], one of the biggest issues about KDE 4.x spped will be resolved.

I'm not holding my breath. The clueless devs haven't managed to make Akonadi/Nepomuk/Strigi/Activities optional since they appeared in KDE 4, so it'll never happen. Apparently Dirk Hohndel ripping them a new one at Desktop Summit had no effect.

You can turn Strigi/Nepomuk off in the KDE Configuration very easily. I have done so on one laptop that doesn't to too well with them turned on. I keep it on on others that do. I haven't had problems with Akonadi on any of the system.

what's the current status w/ Qt 5.0?

Was stalled for a month during the buyout/hand-over from Nokia, now back on schedule with delay. Beta builds are available to users of discerning distros: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt50/

They're prepping for Beta2.

Once they fix [Akonadi], one of the biggest issues about KDE 4.x spped will be resolved.

I'm not holding my breath. The clueless devs haven't managed to make Akonadi/Nepomuk/Strigi/Activities optional since they appeared in KDE 4, so it'll never happen. Apparently Dirk Hohndel ripping them a new one at Desktop Summit had no effect.

they should have called its predecessors KDE 4.01, 4.02....4.08 for the current version.

Version numbers are not floating point numbers, they follow different rules.

what's the current status w/ Qt 5.0?

Was stalled for a month during the buyout/hand-over from Nokia, now back on schedule with delay. Beta builds are available to users of discerning distros: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt50/

And how much longer is 11.4 supported? Quick google of wiki suggests that ends next month...

2 later releases + 2 months -> 5th November 2012.

The gecko Geeko has been the SUSE mascot since a long time.

Believe it or not, not all of us have ultra-high speed Internet connections.

And if you do, why would you download a DVD? I do the installation with the bare basics. http://houghi.org/ssh/install.php
Basically I download init and linux kernel and install from that (over ssh with GUI if I so desire) and download only those things I actually use.

Or turn the network CD into a USB bootable image if there is no previous Linux installed as described on http://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick#Bootable_USB_from_DVD_or_Net-install
Or I make my own on http://susestudio.com/ if I need to install more with specific settings.

Doing a network install might even be interesting for those who are limited with their data as you only download what you actually install and not all the rest that you never install.

Assuming for a second you are not trolling: They would both do the job but in no measurable way are debs better than rpms.
No one is ever able to provide info on why debs are better than rpms as far as i tell what you want is the Debian repos which is good because of the effort that goes into them rather than the package format.

I would like it if it used what i currently has where the package management system is very similar to openSUSE's. Its yum not rpms that suck.

I know this is ancient and some of it has change but read this anyway:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:RPM_sucks

10959 http://en.opensuse.org/
11772 http://www.slackware.com/
11189 http://qa.mandriva.com/

What on earth could they have against Slackware, OpenSuSE and Mandriva? There are other entries:

11304 http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
11312 http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/

but these could be explained by being torrents. No Debian, CentOS or Mageia in the list. Strange.

Not only do all the other dependancies have to be the right magic versions, but someone has to take the effort to port a rather complex piece of software. Luckily, the Linux folks don't have nearly the trouble as they're a tier 1 platform for most software these days. Still, there are many different choices in linux for near everything and getting your combination to work can be tiresome. Next time you download packages from any open source OS, consider how much work went into that easy experience. Saying thank you can't hurt either. :)

Too many moving targets. Too many artificial dependencies.

I've often found that dependencies are carelessly chosen, then enshrined into the RPMs, when in fact there is no real dependency on having the absolute latest version of some lib or some other package. The package builder or the developer happened to have version 1.35.34-1a installed even thought they USED nothing from that lib or package that was new or fixed since 1.26.0.

Consequently it becomes a mad dash for every maintainer to gather a snapshot in time of stable system from a zillion packages all being updated asynchronously.

OpenSUSE releases have a lifetime of 2 releases + 2 months overlap. With a release cycle of 8 months this makes it 18 months before any given release falls into obsolescence, becomes unmaintained. See http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime

Add to this that OpenSuse was simply a test bed for Novell's commercial packages (SLES/SLED) and you have the perfect storm of rapid rolling obsolescence. Releases seem to become obsolete and unmaintained way too quickly.

I would enjoy annual releases. I would enjoy releases every two years even more. I could make a case for a release every three years with nothing but security patches and major fixes bug between.

But most of all I would love to see a release maintained for 3 to 5 years.

I love this distro, ad have been running it since version 5 or 7 or some such. But Running OpenSuse has become an exercise in chasing new releases every 18 months just to avoid obsolescence and security problems. 18 months is just too short.

...don't turn yet another Fedora release thread into a GNOME Shell argument, people. It's just a desktop. We have lots of them.

Usually I'd agree with you but any argument surrounding GNOME Shell is partially Fedora's own fault. Alternative spins are not really advertised on fedoraproject.org. IIRC it was different in the past and https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora had at least a big "Looking for KDE?" button instead of being hidden under "More download options". Compare that to http://software.opensuse.org/

Stuff like this doesn't inspire any confidence whatsoever. "A few days" has turned into a year.

The best you can do is link a page written by an equally uninformed user? Nice evidence. The poster doesn't even know about slackpkg being part of Slackware. No need to manually download and install packages, or use a web based package browser. Slackpkg does all of this for you.

SUSE used to have a site called Webpin that allowed you to search through the contents of packages that broke around the release of 11.4. Yet even openSUSE 12.1 the menu item is still listed.

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/458432-webpin-non-functionnal-suse-11-4-a.html

And remember - this is the recommended package browser linked to from the slackware.com home page.

And remember - this is the recommended package browser linked to from YaST, SUSE's official package manager. Tell me how is this different??

Your obsession with this online 'package browser' is slighlty odd. It is just a contributed nicity. Not an official part of the project. If you want to search the contents you use slackpkg (like a Debian/Ubuntu user would use apt-cache or apt-file). If you don't have Slackware installed yet, look at the MANIFEST and FILELIST files within the directory structure on your mirror of choice.

As a side note, SUSE used to have a site called Webpin that allowed you to search through the contents of packages. There is even a Webpin menu item in YaST (SUSE's official package manager). Then out of the blue around openSUSE 11.4, Webpin stopped working and was no longer maintained. Yet even in openSUSE 12.1 the menu item is still listed.

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/458432-webpin-non-functionnal-suse-11-4-a.html

So tell me, do you go around claiming that SUSE is dying as well?

The kids will be grateful later on for the opportunity to break out of MS lock-in, and Python is a fun, easy language to learn, though surprisingly powerful. Design the classroom so that a pair of students (as in pair programming) sit opposite each other so they can look each other in the face, not each others monitor. Give assignments per pair, not the same assignment to the whole class. Use source-code control. (So you can check on their progress after class). Give them assignments that span several school-hours, to occupy them. Not just stupid hello world/word counter programs that are too boring and don't do anything useful. Design the classroom so the pairs all see the whiteboard/projection place, yet have space enough to stretch out. Award collaboration (not cheating kind of collab), but also award individual flashes of insight. Do base your CS class on programming as it is a useful skill even for those who won't work as IT people. Meaning really, most of these kids today know how to use word processing and/or spreadsheet software, and if you captivate them with something interesting and fun, they'll be less likely to cause havoc in the classroom. If you must use Windows, somebody mentioned Faronics ... good choice. If you want to go with some fancy stuff like VDI or Thin Client enviroment (which I highly recommend) ... use something like https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ or even better the SUSE version http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP because of Yast (management tool, not all powerful, but just enough). Configure thin clients with LXDE or some hybrid containing Awesome WM, deploy Firefox, Thunderbird, Eclipse, OpenOffice (apps that use local workstation resources, but boot over network) and you're be set for another 4-5 years. If you must use Windows, everything here applies but you change the server from Linux Terminal Server Project to this... http://www.xpunlimited.com/ ... and deal with the clients accordingly ... probably with WPKG (http://wpkg.org/). You can do everything, even on a tight budget, you just have to have some imagination, and a good working knowledge in tinkering with various open-source software.

If you are new to Linux, or just interested, there are a lot of Free and Open Source alternatives to common 'payware' applications on Microsoft and Apple platforms (sorry, no Photoshop, though.) See the sites listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsApplicationsEquivalents. Like many Ubuntu or Gentoo or Redhat forums, the information contained is actually relevant to other distributions like openSuSE.

One thing openSuSE has going for it is that the default browsers come with support for YaST's on-click install. So one way to get much of the stuff that you might want is to first check the search website. If someone else has already packaged the software and made it available on that site, then installing it is literally one click away in the search results.

Yes, to fit with what most people expect, the service could use an 'app store' UI with little application review pages, comments and pretty icons. But it certainly beats hunting out each dependency on rpmseek or rpm.pbone.net. (If you are lucky to find packaged software at all.)

If you are new to Linux, or just interested, there are a lot of Free and Open Source alternatives to common 'payware' applications on Microsoft and Apple platforms (sorry, no Photoshop, though.) See the sites listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsApplicationsEquivalents. Like many Ubuntu or Gentoo or Redhat forums, the information contained is actually relevant to other distributions like openSuSE.

One thing openSuSE has going for it is that the default browsers come with support for YaST's on-click install. So one way to get much of the stuff that you might want is to first check the search website. If someone else has already packaged the software and made it available on that site, then installing it is literally one click away in the search results.

Yes, to fit with what most people expect, the service could use an 'app store' UI with little application review pages, comments and pretty icons. But it certainly beats hunting out each dependency on rpmseek or rpm.pbone.net. (If you are lucky to find packaged software at all.)

"what do I do if I want to install software but it's not an rpm or whatever it is suse uses. "

In opensuse the 2nd stop for packages is http://software.opensuse.org/ as unfortunately not everything that's packaged is in the default repositories.

Yes there is, it's in the Education repository. You can find it by going to http://software.opensuse.org/ and searching for 'rosegarden'.

Unfortuantely opensuse still operates a two-tier repository system where packages go into a 'devel' repository with similar packages (the list can be seen here http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/) and only get moved into the main distro repository (called 'oss') if someone promises to maintain them. (Even though of course not all packages in the main repo are well maintained)

In short if you can't find something go to http://software.opensuse.org/

Yes there is, it's in the Education repository. You can find it by going to http://software.opensuse.org/ and searching for 'rosegarden'.

Unfortuantely opensuse still operates a two-tier repository system where packages go into a 'devel' repository with similar packages (the list can be seen here http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/) and only get moved into the main distro repository (called 'oss') if someone promises to maintain them. (Even though of course not all packages in the main repo are well maintained)

In short if you can't find something go to http://software.opensuse.org/

Yes there is, it's in the Education repository. You can find it by going to http://software.opensuse.org/ and searching for 'rosegarden'.

Unfortuantely opensuse still operates a two-tier repository system where packages go into a 'devel' repository with similar packages (the list can be seen here http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/) and only get moved into the main distro repository (called 'oss') if someone promises to maintain them. (Even though of course not all packages in the main repo are well maintained)

In short if you can't find something go to http://software.opensuse.org/

It's not in the main repository, but there is a Rosegarden package in one of the additional repositories - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_12.1/.

Package search is helpful: http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=rosegarden&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.1&lang=en&exclude_debug=true

Thanks for that! I was looking under the multimedia section - silly me.

Seriously, thanks.

It's not in the main repository, but there is a Rosegarden package in one of the additional repositories - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_12.1/.

Package search is helpful: http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=rosegarden&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.1&lang=en&exclude_debug=true

Thanks for that! I was looking under the multimedia section - silly me.

Seriously, thanks.

It's not in the main repository, but there is a Rosegarden package in one of the additional repositories - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_12.1/.

Package search is helpful:
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=rosegarden&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.1&lang=en&exclude_debug=true

It's not in the main repository, but there is a Rosegarden package in one of the additional repositories - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_12.1/.

Package search is helpful:
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=rosegarden&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.1&lang=en&exclude_debug=true

Here is a detailed list: http://en.opensuse.org/Product_highlights

CentOS is fine if you just need an office file-server or print-server.
If you are running an e-commerce website, then you need to be PCI compliant and up-to-date with the latest security patches *QUICKLY*.
CentOS updates can be unpredictable as to when they will be released. Look at Wikipedia's "Delay" column for CentOS releases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS
Due to extremely slow 2011 updates and releases, I switched to an alternative OS out of fear a CentOS update might never arrive. It did release eventually.

Does your IT staff have the time and knowledge to create their own RPM files for updating CentOS, when the closed group of CentOS volunteers fail to deliver?
If not, I would suggest either pay for RHEL updates or use current free releases of Fedora, OpenSuse, Ubuntu LTS, or Debian instead.

SUSE has, essentially, not been heard of since it was split off Novell. I don't know what the status of that distribution is.

Try opensuse.org they are still very much alive they had a conference and have contributed their package management to Meego. I don’t think they are having any funding issues.

This is exactly what you need. ignore all the tech speak and nerd lingo.

http://www.opensuse.org/en/

I would like a cloud compiler helping with building for different platforms at once. Provided you could freely download the compilers yourself of course.

Something like the OpenSuse build service?

http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 - Yes, you can install KDE3 on openSUSE 11.2+.

http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ - Attempting to take up where KDE 3.5.10 left off. Only supporting Debian/Ubuntu and Slack, so far, but it's a start.

Please note that this stack is only used on SLE10 nowadays. SLE11 and openSUSE 11+ relies on ZYpp ( http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Libzypp or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zypp ), which is a quite different story.

Woah, easy there.

I'm as much an advocate of F/OSS as anybody else. I'm constantly posting links to RMS's Right to Read. I use Ubuntu as my (only) desktops.

But Linux won't be improved by sweeping away the problems. Partly it's due to hardware manufacturers, but we have to deal with it anyway.

Just the other week, I finally found out how to suspend without being permanently stuck suspended. It has to do with /etc/modprobe.conf.local, and, yes, kernel modules. $lsmod |grep agp confirms whether the module has been unloaded.
http://old-en.opensuse.org/NVidia_Suspend_HOWTO

And the way I suspend is:
$sudo s2ram -f --vbe_save

looks like opensuse just did a news release yesterday about 11.4 and I don't see anything about it saying goodbye http://news.opensuse.org/2011/04/26/opensuse-11-4-dvds-for-events/

RPM-based distros... better package management

LOL

Probably should have admitted package management from the post.
I was meaning Zypper and Yum would have better enterprise features. I have yet to find a reliable non biased overview on it, so from the opensuse website.
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:RPM_sucks
Mainly allowing multiple versions, vendor locks and deltas.
Apt may currently have these google is not good at current information on this stuff.

wow, this was coordinated
http://www.gentoo.org/news/20110401-canterbury.xml
http://www.opensuse.org/
http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110401
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00006.html

Only an hour left here of the 1st. One article appears to be new news the rest make it look good.

Though The Canterbury distro is just terrible
http://www.opensuse.org/
https://www.archlinux.org/
http://www.debian.org/

Can you imagine the holy wars at least 3 different packing systems 4 different kenels and everything from stable to sid all in one distro.

Didn't you hear that debian, openSuSE, Arch, Grml and Gentoo are merging?

http://www.debian.org/
http://www.opensuse.org/
http://www.archlinux.org/
http://www.gentoo.org/
http://www.grml.org/