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Re:!!!!~11111!!!
Call it what you like, but the paper was published in 1999 by the American Psychological Association
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Re:!!!!~11111!!!
22 years in systems engineering, but he hasn't got a clue as to how web sites operate. This guy epitomizes problems we all see every day: Incompetents who don't recognize their own incompetence.
And is is a very good paper on the problem: http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unaware .html -
Re:!!!!~11111!!!
Actually, it doesn't seem to have to be deliberate.
One of the other responses to my post contained a link (which I haven't yet visited) that I suspect points to the study "Unskilled and Unaware of it". Essentially, the big problem with those who lack competence is that they are unable to recognize this problem in themselves or others. So it doesn't even need to be deliberate, because the poor fool can't even tell he (or she) is hiring yet another fool.
Here's a URL for the study (I avoided the PDF link)
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Re:PRECISE DICTION
This is why precise diction--speaking and writing clearly--is necessary. It is often just as much the fault of the writer as it is the reader when a message's tone is misinterpreted.
And why giving the author the benefit of the doubt is necessary -- if one is interested in avoiding flamewars. On a closely related note: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments. :w -
Great link!
I found the link http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unawar
e .html to be a great read.
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Re:"-1 troll" utterance gets +5 InsightfulThis is perhaps due to a psychological phenomenon whereby skilled people are more aware of their own shortcomings than are unskilled people, and in this case, are more likely to realize that their comments might be interpreted as trolling by others.
A 1999 article in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology entitled "Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments," studies this phenomenon: http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unaware .htmlAcross 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
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Re:who cares?
"People consider themselves excellent drivers, even when they are not, because they think they are so good they are actually really bad."
C.f. Unskilled and Unaware Of It . It has been widely reported that most drivers consider themselves above average, although I can't find any primary reference in a quick Google search. I did find a report on a study of driver's education, though, that reached the surprising conclusion that advanced driver training is basically worthless. Go figure.
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That's not all the juice can do !!
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unaware .html
In 1995, McArthur Wheeler walked into two Pittsburgh banks and robbed them in broad daylight, with no visible attempt at disguise. He was arrested later that night, less than an hour after videotapes of him taken from surveillance cameras were broadcast on the 11 o'clock news. When police later showed him the surveillance tapes, Mr. Wheeler stared in incredulity. "But I wore the juice," he mumbled. Apparently, Mr. Wheeler was under the impression that rubbing one's face with lemon juice rendered it invisible to videotape cameras ( Fuocco, 1996 ). -
Re:I looked it up.The original point of this thread was that some people object to United States Citizens defining themselves Americans since by their (IMHO wrong) reasoning every resident of North & South America is an American.
You mean here? Where I wrote that "Canadians are Americans too"? Please explain to me how it follows that I object to US citizens calling themselves Americans from the fact that residents of North and South America are Americans.
Oopsies! You've already accused me of being jealous of the US. Now you accuse me of not being able to follow my own thread. And you "explain" what I meant to me! A linky just for you
Again, for those who are having trouble following the thread, people can call themselves whatever they want. My only point is that American is the unique and proper term reserved for citizens of the United States of America.
And you're wrong. An American is (1) a citizen of the United States; (2) an inhabitant or native of North or South America. http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictio
n ary&va=American&x=0&y=0If you disagree, take it Merriam Webster. I'm sure they'll throw out all their research of common English usage when you report their omission to them.
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Re:The Real Problem With Internet Security
Of course, there's always this possibility
I'm surprised someone can write a whole article just to say the contrapositive of "a wise person knows what he doesn't know." -
The Real Problem With Internet SecurityFrom the article: On the other hand, if it were true, then it would mean that Cisco takes about two years to address these issues. I would be concerned about this if I were one of their customers.
This is the biggest problem with large companies. Sure, it is has been pointed out adnausium over the years in various sources -The Mythical Man Month and The Innovators Dilemma being two very good ones. It is too bad that our network is now being ruled by bandits because of it. MS has become everything that it hated about IBM. Cisco has so much hardware out there that IOS has to be tested on everything before a new release. How can it be possible that when FOSS gets updated and corrected quicker? Of course, I work for a large company, and I see how long it takes to get a simple task completed. I'm guessing it has a lot to do with modivation. The open source folks really do believe in their product. For the people working in big companies, it is just a paycheck.
Of course, there's always this possibility
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A professor, eh?A professor, eh? Let's check that website:
SANDEEP KRISHNAMURTHY, Associate Professor of Marketing and E-Commerce, University of Washington, Bothell
Oh.
So, what we have here is somebody just saying, in essense, "Gee, Microsoft, why isn't your software at human-level AI? I mean, how hard can that be?" and is so utterly incompetent at assessing how hard grammar checking is that they are utterly unaware of how incompetent they are. (Hmmm, that sounds familiar, though this isn't quite the same.)
I invite Associate Professor of Marketing and E-Commerce Sandeep Krishnamurthy to try his hand at the AI problems he is upset that Microsoft hasn't waved a magic wand and fixed, though I feel obligated to warn him that as an associate professor of marketing, he's likely to be in for a world of intellectual hurt unless he's got some other source of knowledge and skill squirreled away somewhere, like a PhD in Computer Science he is for some reason forgetting to mention.... Perhaps then he would have some understanding of why even the mighty Microsoft has not yet produced the Perfect Grammar Checker....
On that note, check in with actual Linguists on the feasibility of the idea of a Perfect Grammar, too. You probably have a lot to learn there, too. -
Re:BlehOne need only peruse the source code of 5 randomly picked source forge projects to figure this one out.
Yeah, but don't blame it on OSS. This is simply another embodiment of the long-tailed distribution of human stupidity. In any human endeavor there are a large number of people who are Unskilled and Unaware of it. These people will try their hand at whatever catches their attention, and the results usually range from mediocre to terrible.
There's a lot of really bad fan fiction out there, too. And terrible amateur cartoons. And naive, uninformed political opinions.
What we witness on SourceForge is merely a demonstration of the inability of most people to accomplish anything of any importance. Nothing specific to OSS.
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Re:These people ARE NOT crackpots.
It seems pretty far-fetched to me, but I'm working my way through the Princeton site now and I've not seen any glaring errors in their methodology yet.
Are you dense? The "glaring errors" start right with the bloody name of the project! All their work is tainted by their focus on a vague "global consciousness". I'm open minded enough to say that it's possible their "random" isn't so random, but they mistakenly take the leap to correlate it with their desired conclusion instead of actually trying to determine the cause. It gets all the more outlandish when they attempt to increase correlation by deciding to do matches in both the past and the future. It's just junk science. Non-junk science would explain the how of the influence on a supposedly random source. That is, even if you give them the presumption of being right, you have gained no understanding. Even if they told you about huge spike today, you possess no knowledge you can act on tomorrow, and they'll be free to look at the paper over a range of days and simply say "Oh, yes, this is what caused it." It's beyond stupid, and if you don't see it then the site you should be at is here.
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slashdotted already?
sheesh that didn't take long.
I managed to get it mirrored here:
page 1:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/mini-itx-cluster.html
page 2:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/mini-itx-cluster2.htm l
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slashdotted already?
sheesh that didn't take long.
I managed to get it mirrored here:
page 1:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/mini-itx-cluster.html
page 2:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/mini-itx-cluster2.htm l
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slashdotted already?
sheesh that didn't take long.
I managed to get it mirrored here:
page 1:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/mini-itx-cluster.html
page 2:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/mini-itx-cluster2.htm l
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Re:Hmm...
You want lame?
How about a mirror of it here? :)
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Re:Mirror
http://www.phule.net/stuff/thunderbird-0.3-win32.
z ip
Win32 build of Thunderbird 0.3
It looks like the Mozilla.org ftp servers are starting to recover somewhat. Depending on bandwidth usage, I may have to remove these Win32 files after a day or so. -
Re:Mirror
http://www.phule.net/stuff/MozillaFirebird-0.7-wi
n 32.zip
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Re:mirror?
Sure, why not. Haven't had a good slashdotting in a while:
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Re:Mirror
Or if you just want the video to download or whatever...here
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Mirror
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Goes right along with ...
Goes right along with the MS switcher campaign
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Re:partial mirrors
Shoot. Links would be nice, wouldn't they?
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/PIA03379.html
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http://www.phule.net/mirrors/PIA03377.html -
Re:partial mirrors
Shoot. Links would be nice, wouldn't they?
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/PIA03379.html
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http://www.phule.net/mirrors/PIA03377.html -
in related and more serious news :)
The Mozilla 1.3 branch has been closed in prep. for release. There's a mention of it on Mozillazine as well.
The outstanding bug list has been mirrored here:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/bugs-2003-02-22.html because it's not very nice to bugzilla.mozilla to link directly to it. At least not from /. :) -
Mirror (was: Re:in case of /.)
How about this:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/pacc.htm
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Re:news page already ./ed
It's not the slashdotting (well, it probably is now) its that everyone on irc has been trying to get an update since yesterday.
You can read the news at this mirror too:
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/efnet-news.html
- JoeShmoe