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New NASA Maps Show A Bad Day On Earth
Stephen Lau writes "ScienceDaily has an article talking about the new NASA maps that reveal the geography of the North American continent in amazing detail. One of the maps provides strong evidence of a 112 mile wide, 3000 foot deep impact crater which they believe was the comet/asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs and more than 70% of Earth's living species 65 million years ago."
This is awesome! We should stop wasting money on war and increase NASA's budget immediately!
Wasn't this in Slashdot about 2 days ago?
Everyone knows that cigarette smoking did. At least that's what Gary Larson has hypothesized.
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My favorite part of the article was the part about "ÁÏ.ãqÌ|fs~á×|bovVÁ3pè5B úèÍ2E¼}Â÷Pg|\ÎÝ®ÝXD(TM)ÓËûÀêâæÐóØq3 ì8Îx-×> M'r " I have no idea how to even begin to respond.
It was Bryan Adams' acne scars. Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.
It seems whenever anyone finds a reasonably large crater, they declare "this is it, this is the one that killed the dinos". It grabs headlines. I'd hate to be a dinosaur, because it seems like I'd've been extinctified about 12 times over by genocidal asteroid de jour.
From the 7th - NASA Releases New Topographic Map of North America
We all know that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a global flood, not an asteroid! Stop spreading these Satanic lies!
The Dinos died coz they ran out of beer. Stop lying to us !
Finally something people can "grab ahold of" out of NASA. If they made a bigger deal out of a lot of their other advances and discoveries they would be held in better public esteem. But the public usually only pays attention when something bad happens.
this looks familiar.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
Oink, Oink!!
Seriously, are they getting their bandwidth thru a garden hose?
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No comments as I type and the site is dead. Oh well, I need to code a slashdot scheduler service that stays behind /. by two or so days and lets me mark the articles I want to see later.
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Yup, it's gone from being a picture of a bad day on earth to a bad day for JPL's webmasters.
NASA Releases New Topographic Map of North America. It was found buried in the Science region of Slashdot, which has is thus far mostly unphotographed.
C'mon! If the dinosaurs were killed by a comet, why weren't people killed, too? Didn't you ever watch the Flintstones? Given the interspecies symbiosis, it is highly unlikely that a sudden and catastrophic loss of the dinosaurs would not have resulted in a destruction of mankind as well. How would humans have quarried rock?
No, I think a much more plausible explanation is that the dinosaurs were actually the victims of second-hand smoke, overpopulation, and perhaps disease. I mean, really.
GF.
Lots of petrified grits
Which means that a similarly-sized asteroid may be slightly less apocalyptic than thought. Sort of comforting, though I wonder how we'd deal with global forest fires when we can't even handle a relatively small number now.
They've been slashdotted in less than 20 posts.
If the site is slashdotted, you can just download the full-resolution image [617.7 megabyte TIFF]
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bah, shes shut down already. anyone got the pics?
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No, it's still slashdotted from when this story was posted two days ago ;)
Read my keyboard review.
that slashdot killed NASA....
Now Another Slashdotting Attempt.
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
Actually, it was "slashdotted" before it was posted here. I read it this morning and already then it was at a crawl. Could be because about 390 news articles already link to it?
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who needs an asteroid.
we have slashdot.
take that dinosaurs.
Bruce Willis
(OK, maybe two)
The crater that used to be their server before it was slashdotted.
Potentially the benefits to earth of such an event could be huge. Humanity is a plague, a scourge on the earth, and a large asteroid impact could be just the catalyst that would be needed for human extinction, without a disasterous war involving biological, chemical and nuclear weapons.
A large impact could alter the climate and make all crops and agriculture nonviable for decades. All the larger life forms would go extinct, but many smaller plants and animals would survive, as their needs are much smaller. This would be much better than environmental or war with weapons of mass destruction that would render the whole earth bare of all life. Eliminating the scourge of humanity into extinction would be the best thing that could happen to the planet.
Naw, we'll just blame it on Al-Queida and Sadaam.
You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
Chances are at the bottom of the 3000ft deep crater is the NASA web server.
Actually it was a GOOD day for the earth as it got a major influx of material and upped its accretion rate, helping out in the race to be the biggest object orbiting the sun, though it still trails several other bodies, as of this writing. It WAS a BAD day for the life forms that inhabited the skin of the earth, but they didn't contribute a lot to the total mass. It WAS a GOOD day, though, for the minor life forms called mammals, as many of their predators and competitors were disposed of. Tough call on Good vs. Bad.
It what I always believe.
No other disater was bigger than the YellowStone Volcano.
Ceci n'est pas une Signature !
After being posted at slashdot, a huge impact crater where the photojournal server once stood could be seen via a huge red splotch on the mrtg graph for the nasa.gov domain.
:P
What a horrid sight to behold. The smell of smoke and melted silicon could be inhaled for miles around.
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
Maybe it was a slashdoting that killed the...er nevermind.
Yeah, server is dead. Throw it in the crater...
(Hell, increase their budget so they can afford non-slashdottable servers)
LosT
"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams."
Please mod down the AC's goatsex-tainted posting, plz, thx!
Have I seen this somewhere before?
Those images have been timing out since before the first comments appeared.
But I thought that was the asteroid in India.
Or maybe it was the asteroid in the ocean.
Everytime they find evidence of a crater its always the one that killed the dinosaurs.
Visible results. Let's say we set up some sort of asteroid detection and desctruction unit. And then... no major asteroids end up destined to hit Earth for another 230 years. You think taxpayers will want to sit around paying billions of dollars for 230 years with little in way of results? Not likely.
However, Iraq, a problem that's existed for well over a decade, is something easy to point at say "Look! Problem!" and then fix. We can spend billions, and that's okay, because we get our results quickly. We don't have to wait 200 years for something to happen. We only have to wait months.
Scientists have been unable to found any traces of intelligent life anywhere on that side of the planet.
Last I checked, Mexico isn't part of the U.S. Yet. Perhaps we'll get to them next after we are done annexing Iraq, though.
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TIFF? 617 Megabyte? You moderators are cruel.
/. could see it. :-P
BTW, that's not a picture of a 112 mile wide, 3000 foot deep impact crater - that's an aerial view of what happened to the server when morcheeba's linkage comment was modded up so the whole of
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Scientists believe the impact, which was centered just off the coast in the Caribbean, altered the subsurface rocks such that the overlying limestone sediments, which formed later and erode very easily, would preferentially erode on the vicinity of the crater rim.
Wait. So nothing's really changed. So they are basically still saying that the Gulf of Mexico is the "real" meteor crash site and not this dimple... Hmmm... let's see, let's keep reading:
This formed the trough as well as numerous sinkholes (called cenotes) which are visible as small circular depressions.
Ummm... yup. This is a sink-hole, a dimple in the earth caused by the sudden crash/explosion NEAR BY. This is not the crash site. I wish people would read the damn articles before even submitting them to the editors (and that opens another can of worms there, but I digress...).
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
that's not that bad of a thing. really.
look at the size of garden hose, and then look at the size of a phone wire. if properly threaded, the number of wire that could fit into a garden hose would make for a great amount of bandwidth, even though it would only be like an isdn line.
perhaps filling the hose with optics would be better. either way, a garden hose is big enough to produce quite a bit of bandwidth.
Work sucked, until it became unemployment, when it became slightly more tolerable. -Tet
Earth is a big pool ball.
They should know that we are not the white one.
Have you ever looked at one of them maps that shows elevation of the united states.. more specifically look closer at california, nevada and arizona.. the rocky mountains like a half circle where southern california is kinda in the center.. kinda looks like it could have been a huge volcano or something or maybe a giant crater from a meteor
http://www.awwsheezy.com
Way to take down their bandwith, morcheeba!
(I gueess they brought it upon themselves by being idiotic enough to post such a monster pig image.)
Now I'm dying for some Dinosaur BBQ...
Slashdot is like Playboy: I read it for the articles
Ha! Craters in North America.. finally it was proven! I've suspected for long that it indeed was the honorable G.W. Bush who released us from the horrible death regime of the dinosaurs!
Marxist evolution is just N generations away!
WTF are you talking about? Have you been eating retard sandwiches again?
You just want to file claims and earn $$$ by making false and baseless allegations. Marlboro hates you .
Just take it to the UN, that should solve all our problems, right?
Dammy
...of a post about an article being a dupe being modded redundant?
Oh, yeah, I'm killin my karma now...
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i was referring to turning the water on and off to simulate binary data transfer
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Just how many asteroid impacts does it take to wipe out the dinosaurs, anyway? They find a new one every other month, it seems.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
the universe. Someone had commented that there is really no compelling reason for human space exploration at this time. Sure, statistically such occurrences are exceedingly rare, but does that argue for or against human spaceflight? If one of these rogues happens along, the whole species is in danger. We sure as heck need to be established somewhere off-planet or go the way of the dinosaurs mentioned in the story. I say, that is your goddam reason for human spaceflight, at the very least.
It was root beer Johnny ! They had loooots of roots at that time. I even have a foto of my grand^1000 uncle Barney the Dino grinning silly in a root beer induced haze standing muzzle deep in crushed roots while my aunty Diney the Dino stood behind him with a disapproving snout held high in the air. So there !
Original Caption Released with Image: This shaded relief image of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula show a subtle, but unmistakable, indication of the Chicxulub impact crater. Most scientists now agree that this impact was the cause of the Cretatious-Tertiary Extinction, the event 65 million years ago that marked the sudden extinction of the dinosaurs as well as the majority of life then on Earth.
Most of the peninsula is visible here, along with the island of Cozumel off the east coast. The Yucatan is a plateau composed mostly of limestone and is an area of very low relief with elevations varying by less than a few hundred meters (about 500 feet.) In this computer-enhanced image the topography has been greatly exaggerated to highlight a semicircular trough, the darker green arcing line at the upper left corner of the peninsula. This trough is only about 3 to 5 meters (10 to 15 feet) deep and is about 5 km. wide (3 miles), so subtle that if you walked across it you probably would not notice it, and is a surface expression of the crater's outer boundary. Scientists believe the impact, which was centered just off the coast in the Caribbean, altered the subsurface rocks such that the overlying limestone sediments, which formed later and erode very easily, would preferentially erode on the vicinity of the crater rim. This formed the trough as well as numerous sinkholes (called cenotes) which are visible as small circular depressions.
Two visualization methods were combined to produce the image: shading and color coding of topographic height. The shade image was derived by computing topographic slope in the northwest-southeast direction, so that northwestern slopes appear bright and southeastern slopes appear dark. Color coding is directly related to topographic height, with green at the lower elevations, rising through yellow and tan, to white at the highest elevations.
Elevation data used in this image were acquired by the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM) aboard the Space Shuttle Endeavour, launched on Feb. 11, 2000. SRTM used the same radar instrument that comprised the Spaceborne Imaging Radar-C/X-Band Synthetic Aperture Radar (SIR-C/X-SAR) that flew twice on the Space Shuttle Endeavour in 1994. SRTM was designed to collect 3-D measurements of the Earth's surface. To collect the 3-D data, engineers added a 60-meter (approximately 200-foot) mast, installed additional C-band and X-band antennas, and improved tracking and navigation devices. The mission is a cooperative project between NASA, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) of the U.S. Department of Defense and the German and Italian space agencies. It is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., for NASA's Earth Science Enterprise, Washington, D.C.
The flying hamster of DOOM rains coconuts on your pitiful city.
For the sake of tradition, shouldn't we be blaming microsoft for the death of the dinosaur? :) (And for that matter pointing out that linux helps prevent system crashes of this magnitude ;)
It's odd that they're playing down the fact that this happens only once every 65 million years.
oh. well where's the fun in that? :-
Work sucked, until it became unemployment, when it became slightly more tolerable. -Tet
I'm no scientist but it seems to me that a comet that big would throw the earth out of it's orbit. Why haven't we crashed into the sun yet?
Worst slashdot effect... ever.
Please mod the parent up
OK, that troll is a little better than the parent troll, which itself really missed a perfect opportunity. I shall try and correct the situation:
GOD ALMIGHTY created this prefect planit in HIS OWN IMAGE and GOD does not have craters on HIS perfect face. This NASA stuff is all lies of satan, the greatest liar. The Earth is just 5,000 years old. And that crater was created when?!? Like 65 million years ago? Well those are Satan years and they are just a fraction of the years you nonbeliefers will suffer the ravaging torments of unbridled HELL FIRE for even reading this satanic lie about the earth. Jesus walked this earth and he did not fall into any sink holes. The bible would record them if he had! We all know the bible is the word and work of GOD ALMIGHTY and sink holes are the shortcut to HELL, so that proves my point. They are SATAN HOLES.
ANyone who disagrees with me is a deluded minion of the fallen satan. Burn if you mod me down. Jesus saves! I was saved by Jesus and you can be saved or just burn, and I will laugh.
UN approach to stopping asteroids: "Stop! Or we'll say 'Stop!' again."
Funny how the US has to protect the world. Why not make some piss-ant European or Middle East country pay for it?
here is yet another government server for us to destroy. It has many similar pretty thing for you to look at.
http://photojournal.wr.usgs.gov
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here.
Yes, it will.
France, Russia and Germany have no oil interests, AFAIK, in regards to incoming asteroids of death.
Because you already took all their money and natural resources?
I managed to save some of the two catalog pages here:
:)
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/PIA03379.html
and
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/PIA03377.html
PIA03379.html has the 1.5MB image.
No, I'm not going to try and mirror the 600+MB TIFF file
In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
I know this is off topic, but if you go to Nasa.gov... check out that flash animation- what is up with that???
Are they trying to make people think George Bush is some kind of hero?
I expect to see something from star-trek fly by at the end, or maybe "To bodly go where no man has gone before"-- perhaps they are trying to make it more mainstream... but I'm sorry that is just lame, the quote from Bush seems out of place- At least they made the audio from the Bush speech extremely poor.
If you're going to spend tax payers money- put some class into it.
Yeah, because airplanes, nuclear weapons (bliss), peanut butter, the internet, and cars were all made by morons. I guess that doesn't say much for the Europeans, considering they didn't make them first.
Fuck you, eurotrash.
Surely you jest! Do you really want to force the idiots on slashdot to realize they are not all powerful? That they do not actually control the internet?
It's funny. Slashdot thinks they're so fucking cool when they bring down Joe Schmoe's website that's running on a cable modem, but if they ever linked to a normal website that wasn't already under enormous load, everyone would realize slashdot is a joke.
Fuck you.
There's a clear point of delineation in the rock record
Would that be next to the Grand Funk Railroad label?
but I thought the dinosaurs died so that steven spielberg could make three movies and lots of money.
"But what about the USS's?"
"Un-Slashdottable servers? I don't believe they exist."
Moderation Total: -1 Troll, +3 Goat
Let's see... Your compelling reason for Space exploration is to discover and provide warning of biblical size impact events. To whom do you suppose the bill should be sent?
This isn't a flame. If a workable business model exists it could actually happen. Without this, however, it's hand waving. Perhaps the "global conscience" should be above such matters but it's not.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
Happy Troll Tuesday, everybody!
Logically thinking, since we evolved directly from the remaining 30% of life on the planet after the comet impact, wouldn't we be a likely survivor of subsequent 'extinction level' impacts?
It's all about evolution baby:)
he he :P
Batman was subjected to this evil tourture once.. luckily he recited his multiplication tables backwards and kept his sanity...
(Cant belive i rememeberd that... Old Sk00l batman was the best..)
What about the rest?
:)
And yes I have a copy of the 30MB sized one already (I'm not crazy enought to download the CD sized one).
PIA03381:Shaded Relief with Height as Color and Landsat, Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico[30.85MB]
PIA03380:Anaglyph, Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico[5.193MB]
PIA03378:Anaglyph, North America[208.5MB]
PIA03377:Shaded Relief with Height as Color, North America[208.5MB]
PIA03379:Shaded Relief with Height as Color, Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico[617.7MB]
BTW wget is your friend.
The north american continent ends at Mexico's southern tip. Central america begins at Guatemala (Mexico's southern neighbor).
See, it makes sense!
Here is an annotated mirror which should help: Image
YOU FAIL IT!
it could also be because of the introduction of the new bread of gay/homosexual dinosaurs - the megasoraus and the likalotofpus.
I mean, the .tif map is around 200 megs!!
"But the public usually only pays attention when something bad happens."
Well then I guess their server will be on the six o' clock news then.
Wow... I think I can see my house from here...
i'm amazed that i survived - an airbag saved my life.
I agree. That was a fucking stupid joke. But, it is funny here because computer geeks think stupid shit is funny. That's why they are unpopular in school, and are virgins until they are about 46 years old. Most geeks think the beer stuff is still funny as they sit at work as a grown up. For us, mostly ACs who love to mock you retarded geeks, those beer jokes went out in 10th grade after we had already been drunk too often and laid equally the same.
Mod that root post (what is it this one's grandparent) as follows:
Score: -5, FUCKING RETARDED
I want to see the creater created by the MOAB? Take that you undecided Floridians
YOU FAIL IT
That's not how I read his comment...
He was trying to point out that every human in existance resides on Earth, and that makes humans, as a species, vulnerable.
We should put humans in places other than Earth.
As far as the bill goes, I think it should go to the largest purveyour of the population that wants to send up the seeds.
What's this Submit thingy do?
AMEN!
They are pretty sure this is the 'one' that killed off the dino-beasts. How do they know? Well, at the geolocial dividing line of approximately 65 million years ago, all over the Earth, there is a layer of space material (iridium, I believe). This substance only comes from asteroids. Below this dividing line of iridium dust, there are abundant dino fossils. Above this line, none. This was the major clue to the asteroid theory long before the impact crater was found. This crater is the right age (65 mil years), the right size to have caused world-wide calamities, and the location is correct. The asteroid 'signs' are much stronger in North America than in say, Asia. All in all, they are pretty sure this is the right one. The next one will have our name on it.
You are from NY and think you have BBQ?
What the fuck ever!
-Texas
Can't beleave you guys /.ed jpl. Homeland security should hire all as to take on Iraq when the fighting starts.
DOS attacts are not on the rise it been us here doing it all over the web for years is the real problem.
Good news service you going here cause you can never read any of the news anyway.
But if I wanted I really wanted I could play with the color schemes enough to make the virgin mary's face appear in the yukatan. They could have just as easily made this photo appear that Mount Doom exhisted off the coast of Mexico.
Tell people to look for the man in the moon and they will. Or a rabbit.
Not that I don't believe this, I'm just pointing out that all of these digitally enhanced photos, be it from this or the hubbell, or whatever are just that. Enhanced.
Just food for thought.
No thank you. If The End comes, I'm killing as many as I can. Food will be in short supply, so I might as well rid us of as many mouths a possible.
Rape is high on my todo list also: need to get busy recreating man-kind.
Once its safe to crawl back out into the open, I'll need to spread as many lies as possible too. I'll need to start laying down the foundation for mankinds' new religion too. Lots of fun work to do.
In the begining, FamedLamer created the heavens and the Earth^H^H^H^H^H LamerOrb....
YOU FAIL IT.
Is it just me, or have we slashdotted everything under the nasa domain name. I can't even get the main nasa.gov page to load :(
YOU FAIL IT!!
The US really is a hole.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
It pretty much could happen anytime.
v ol canoes_script.shtml
http://www.solcomhouse.com/yellowstone.htm
for maps and other graphics and
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/1999/super
for the transcript of the BBC's program. The truly scary part is the correlation of the Toba supervolcano 74K ago, and a human genetic bottleneck which happened around the same time -
a bottleneck caused by not enough of a gene pool. That one nearly took us out, and the next one, who knows?
I didn't think the house band in Hell would play this badly.
And still after you say all that, you're little nation is still envious of the USA.
Why then do 90% of you live with in 100 miles of the US border?
Why do you drive our cars?
Eat our food?
And invest in our markets?
Because you secretly want to be Americans.. or some of you think your French.
Your a weak, helpless country. You should be God Damn happy that you live in our shaddow. No one would attack you or put sanctions on you. You owe your big brother a little respect instead of *trying* to back stab US in a resultless attempt to become a player in the big leagues. When that private shipping company releases 18% of your military for shipping payments you didn't pay, then maybe you can get in line to open your mouth.
Shit, three of our states have bigger GDPs than your whole fucking nation!
Sit down you monkey with a small mustache.
Carbon 14 is good for dating organic matter up to around 40000 years old... But there are other means of dating on a geological time scale. Forinstance, when certain minerals are melted and then cooled, they form with a crystalline structure aligned to the earth's magnetic field. By taking into account shifts in the alignment, the known rate of continental drift, comparisons to other nearby rock layers, etc, you can get a pretty good idea when those rocks initially cooled. Also, you can use radioactive elements with longer half lives than carbon-14 to date rocks, by comparing the ratio of that element to its decay products within the rock. This is what most often gets confused with radio-carbon dating, due to both techniques' reliance on radioactive isotopes. And don't forget just looking at the rock strata.... -- Horse_Pheathers
Pity for the dinosaurs they didn't have Bruce Willis and his deep core drilling team around to save 'em from the killer asteroid.....
-- Horse_Pheathers
....for once an extinction that wasn't really Microsoft's fault.
The Yellowstone 'super-volcano' is actually a caldera. This is kind of a reverse volcano, where it occurs as a depression in the land instead of a rise, as a mountain. The Yellowstone Caldera is probably the potentially most dangerous geological feature in North America, maybe in the world. When, not if, it goes, it takes out pretty much all of North America with it. And then you know what that means...No more Ben & Jerrys Ice Cream.
I'm going to unleash them babies tomo...
Oops, you aren't supposed to know that I'm Your God yet.
Uhm...
This is obviously another case of exploding gas mains that only sounded like me admitting to being God. Now, good netizens, if you would only look into the laser of your optical mice, we'll have the matter cleared up in a jiffy.:)
Is this a sigs-optional kind of place? 'Cause I am totally down with that if you know what I mean.
Just to the project's main page: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/
Better than trying to download TIFFs that your system will choke on anyways.
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Hecubas
I get the booze and comfortable place to sit, but how would you use a ladder?
A major reason for your GDP is because your country was founded on slave labour; helping it become the richest country in the world in no time at all.
90% of us live within the US border for the simple fact that the climate is friendlier further south.
We don't manufacture our own brand of cars. And we also drive european cars.
I presume you mean fast food? Well, for the people that do eat that stuff, it is because those franchises entrenched themselves into the fast food business...
When you are NOT talking about fast food, the MAJORITY of the ENTIRE WORLD eats Canadian food (i.e. Grains).
We did until your markets burst... As you will notice, Canada's economy is not faltering, it remains strong. Our markets are not collapsing as yours did, and our people are not being put into poorhouses.
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If this is where the meteor hit the earth, where's the meteor? We see all these impact crators, but nobody seems to have found - or at least mention having found - the meteor. It must've been one huge SOB, so why haven't they found it?
Could this (looking for a crater hole) be akin to something like seeing shapes and animals in the clouds? Or along the lines of finding the face of a man on mars? Topography is very diverse and complex, and there are millions of weird variations on the earth. There's a large crater in the Sea of Japan, too - has this one been discredited as causing the great evolutionary distinction of the dinosaurs?
What if - maybe - these "caters" weren't caused by meteorites or comets, or anything like that at all? What if they're something like 'sink holes' (not the right term - what I'm thinking of are the holes that are made by fresh-water springs) that once spewed up large amounts of water to flood the earth? (another extinction theory that's equally plauseable, it's just that people disvow it because it 'supports' creationism) These 'craters' could be the result of water flowing back into the sinkhole after this flood (caused by high-presure volcanic action?), bringing large amounts of soil with them - the water had to go somewhere, right?
If anyone has links or other information on where these craters went, I'd be glad to see them. It's pretty obvious to me that something that big doesn't just disappear.
~/ssh slashdot.org ssh: connect to host slashdot.org port 22: too many beers
Why did you mention a business model? Frankly space exploration is and should be above the almighty dollar. As I have said before if we could set up a truly International Space Agency with contributions from every nation on the planet then we would be getting a hell of a lot further along than we are at the moment.
But thats just me I suppose, silly me for believing that the continuation of the species is a good thing.
Our NASA servers have been /.ed
Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.
Cool, the story was almost as good as when I read it two weeks ago on Fark!
I personally want to know more about the Cambrian extinction. Almost all life on earth was wiped out by that, but we really have almost no idea what caused it. All those cute little trilobites...gone!
Such irE
Deep impact, though an okay hollywood version, is not necessarily the ONLY theory about what happened to the dinosaurs. THorstein
you stole that shit from another website.. typical canadian bullshit.
in america, at the VERY LEAST we would have cited where we "borrowed" that paper from.
you fucking loser, you stole it from here.
I know that when the himalays first poped up, that much raw limestone being eroded took some co2 out of the air when the acid in rainwater ate it away. OCuld that much limestone added tot eh water do the same thing over a large area? SO not just nuclear winter, but the climate gasses permanetly changed?
All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
Come on mods it is funny NT
I was under the impression that EXTINCTION was what wiped out the dinosaurs.
"Nokia is not a country, it's the capital of Finland!" -Moderated "Informative". Yeesh.
that's as useless as saying "death is what made that guy die".
A major reason for your GDP is because your country was founded on slave labour; helping it become the richest country in the world in no time at all.
! !!!!!!
Right slave labor has what to with computers?
Wrong the states that embraced slavery are stull the poorest in the nation. So your stupid as well.
We did until your markets burst... As you will notice, Canada's economy is not faltering, it remains strong. Our markets are not collapsing as yours did, and our people are not being put into poorhouses.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH O that is good not faultering? What kind of crack are you smoking??? Care to quote the exchange rate bewteen your money and ours? Na didn't think you would care to look at a long term graph of the exchange rate?
But the only nugget of truth to your spew is that your economy has been holding steady.
Going down......
BBBwwwwaaaaahhhhahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prehaps more tech would help out Mining sure isn't
Yeah, but who cares? Sure, I don't want to die, and I don't want to see Earth destroyed, but if a large object in the cosmos comes flying in & wipes out life as we know on Earth, whats the big deal? Are we really, as a species, adding a whole lot to the universe? Is the loss of our particular form of life really all that relevant?
fine. just go curl up and die somewhere and let the rest of us worry about it then.
Back in the 1800s everyone had slaves. Even Canadia. Well, that was then, and this is now. No one has slaves, and that's the right thing to do. And the USA built the largest economy the world has ever seen in its post-slavery century.
You envy our weather. So.. you still want to be down here. You said it yourself.
What's your point about cars? We have foreign ones too, thats what a democracy is all about. But largely, very largely, you drive ours.
Umm, you're wrong on the food thing. You lie. Besides that we are better at marketing, and taking advantage of your desire for fast food, we have MUCH more land that produces the world's food. Canadia's irrigated land: 7,200 km^2. US' irrigated land: 214,00 km^2. When a desert nation grows more than twice as much food that you do, you know you suck at agriculture. Saudi Arabia = 16,200 km^2.
And you want to compare markets? Ours has recently corrected (any economist would know why, and since you don't, go study the correcting graph of normal US inflation and GDP growth rates over the last 100 years). Lets see, how powerful is the Canadiaian currency? Wait, you even named it after OUR dollar! Similar to what the other AC said, one of our states (California) has enough purchasing power to just outright buy Canadia. We're being put in the poor houses? Whatever, we don't pay 15% of our money to a failing socialist health care system.
So basically, you Canadiaians still want to be Americans, but you won't say so because saying so, would mean we were right all along. You are too envious to let us know for sure that we won. But that's OK, because we already know.
Look closely at the vegetation in that area.
The different shaded green blocks are too large to be JPG artifacts.
I'm guessing they are clear-cutting.
The real Anti-American is the one who sits idle and swallows everything the adminstration (conservative, liberal, or otherwise) says without any perspective or thought. America was not built with blind obedience, and blind obedience is definitely not what America needs.
Remember the best thing to do in case of an A-bomb attack: Duck and cover!
Screw NASA's findings.
Today I lost my job and my girlfriend.
Astronauts have **nothing** on my government.
Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne
When I was referring to the 'markets' I was not specifically quoting the currency markets, but if you want to be that way...
Check out the 2-year chart for Canadian Dollars vs. US Dollars.
Looks to me like our Canadian dollar is moving up quite quickly, it is almost as though it were becomming an upward trend!... Don't mind me, I am a market analyst.
Still #1 -- Lonely Gay Geek
Your as bad as Mr Taco.
Are you pussy whipped too?
The same place where the "mother of all asteroids" hit the earth and created such hard to imagine destruction is today one of the most beautiful places on earth: Cancun, Cozumel and the Caribbean. Do we know the truth?
"So basically, you Canadiaians still want to be Americans, but you won't say so because saying so, would mean we were right all along. You are too envious to let us know for sure that we won. But that's OK, because we already know."
Actually, it is our greatest fear, that of becoming American or Americanised. We prefer not to live in a perpetual state of fear.
Still #1 -- Lonely Gay Geek
That little dent in Yucatan is supposed to be *it*? What about the big wopper that created the Gulf itself then? Must have done more good then just kill a bushnblairaurus..
"A major reason for your GDP is because your country was founded on slave labour; helping it become the richest country in the world in no time at all."
When slavery was at it's peak, the US wasn't so 'rich'. That didn't happen until well after slavery was completely abolished.
Well, at least the Canadians can get it together to give universal healthcare to ALL of their citizens nad not waste so much of it on bombs and the military. (America's military budget is $400 thousand million per year - that's a disgrace) During my visits to america, I was struck by the number of poor, homeless people I saw. For such a rich powerful country, this was a surprise. I lived in canada for a while, and let me say that this is the BEST place ever. I've been both sides of the border, and I know where I'd rather live :)
Mod me down, call me a troll, whatever, I don't care, but those 28 million who live on your northern border will know what I mean when I say that Canada is a BRILLIANT place :)
GO CANADA!!!
-- Fuck Beta
What's your point about cars? We have foreign ones too, thats what a democracy is all about. But largely, very largely, you drive ours.
No, this is incorrect. I've been there. They predominantly drive Japanese cars, just like us.
You can argue back and forth all you want about envy, but for the record, I put a Canadian flag on my backpack when I go abroad just because it's a fuckload safer than having my own (or none at all).
Oh, moderators!!
At first you rated my comment as 80% Insightful + 20% funny, and now it's overrated + flamebait.
All I have to say is wow! I thought it was pretty funny when I posted it; uh, sorry some moderators didn't get it and thought it was insightful / flamebait... It was just a little slashdot absurdity. I suspect some 'insightfuls' were in on the joke...
It also contains a goatsex link. Are the trolls in control here?!
I live in America. I've only been to Canada once (Niagra Falls). Let me just say that the grass IS greener on the other side (speaking of Canada as the other side) :D
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Ironix should acknowledge that his post is taken from Rick Mercer's CBC show This Hour Has 22 Minutes.
As for Anonymous Coward, well as a United States citizen, I can only apologize.
Seth
(Too lazy to try and remember my
It's a poor little dual-Athlon 1.2 GHz box with only 512 Mbytes of RAM. The load average is up over 100 and holding steady:
We're looking to scrounge some more memory to get it up to a Gbyte of RAM, but that's about the best we can do at the moment.
Please be nice to our little box, it wasn't meant to be Slashdotted
Way to be tolerant. I'm impressed.
Perhaps if you were less a student of religion and more a student of history you would realize that Christianity has arguably caused more evil overall than any other organization in history, with the possible exception of Nazi Germany.
Allow me to clarify. The longevity of the Roman empire was brought about by its openness and acceptance of the gods of others. They might not have always believed in them, but they respected them. Naturally they expected their own gods to be respected, and when the Christians told them to go to hell instead. This was, in fact, largely ignored until Nero blamed the burning of Rome on them, and they used it to turn public opinion their way, breed dissent, and bring down the Roman empire.
Or perhaps I should bring mention to the Inquisition. Contrary to what many think, it lasted from around the time Christians got real political power to around the time of the American colonies (remember the Salem witch trials?). They wanted to stamp out any and all other religions, and used whatever means necessary to do so. If you disobeyed, you would be murdered.
Now, add in the Crusades. The men who went didn't go for religious purposes. They went to loot, pillage, and rape, a task they fulfilled with grim efficiency. Well, ok, maybe some went for religious reasons, but not all that many of them were so deluded.
You can question the credibility of some of these claims, but they can each be backed up by historical fact. I will admit Christians weren't the only reason for the decline of rome, but they WERE one of the major factors in Rome's fall, and I challenge you all to provide to provide broad-based, credible proof that states otherwise.
And likewise, I challenge any of you to provide any real credible verifiable undeniable proof of the existance of the Christian god. I doubt it can be done.
Why then do 90% of you live with in 100 miles of the US border?
It's called climate. You'd know that if you'd been awake in social studies.
Why do you drive our cars?
Actually, GM and Ford make a lot of cars in Canada. Which you'd know if you'd been awake during economics.
Eat our food?
Actually, we mainly eat whale blubber and Tim Horton's donuts. Neither of which you'd know anything about.
And invest in our markets?
Actually, we own your markets so technically, you're investing in our markets.
Because you secretly want to be Americans.. or some of you think your French.
See the above post about George Bush.
Your a weak, helpless country. You should be God Damn happy that you live in our shaddow. No one would attack you or put sanctions on you. You owe your big brother a little respect instead of *trying* to back stab US in a resultless attempt to become a player in the big leagues. When that private shipping company releases 18% of your military for shipping payments you didn't pay, then maybe you can get in line to open your mouth.
Serge, shut off the water and turn off the lights. Winter is almost over and the natives down south are getting uppity again.
Shit, three of our states have bigger GDPs than your whole fucking nation!
And three times the poverty, gangs, teenage pregnancy, property crime, prison populations, sick people because they can't afford healthcare, grade nine dropouts (per capita, look it up), shall I continue? $$$ mean fuck all to quality of life or humanity of civilization.
Sit down you monkey with a small mustache.
Ouch, you got me, that hurt. I'm gonna cry now.
Homo sapiens neanderthalensis.
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.
Where's Canadia? I can't find it on the map. Oh... you meant Canada...
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.
If we ever get out of this fireswamp...
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.
OK folks ... I think we may have a Band-Aid® "fix" for the dreaded Slashdot Effect on the NASA PhotoJournal.
/.'ed, there's about 9,000-12,000 HTTP packets going back and forth every second at the moment, according to tcpdump.)
What you have to understand is that the NASA PhotoJournal is not really intended for "casual users" as a rule. It's really more oriented towards researchers. Thus, you'll find, it was easy to download full-resolution TIFFs, and the stuff like JPEGs and GIFs was really somewhat of an afterthought. Meaning, basically, that methods (cgi-bin) were provided to create those JPEG images on the fly, from pull-down menus.
Basically, part of the "Slashdotting" of the machine was the CPU being eaten alive by all that cgi-bin on-the-fly conversion stuff.
What we've done (Band-Aid® fix) is to change the interface to be more "user friendly" until a final decision is made on how to orient the site - namely, what this means is that each page will now have a thumb, and clicking on the thumb will get you a modest-sized (pre-cached, not on-the-fly) JPEG image. The original full-sized TIFF image will be available from the menu on the lower-right of the page. In addition, full-scale JPEGs are currently being generated on a back-end machine, so when those are done, they'll be transferred over and then a link/menu entry for getting the full-sized JPEGs will be provided as well as the TIFF link.
While the load average is still high, I think responsiveness should be doing better now.
(Just for fun, in case you've never been
Step 5) ???
Step 6) Profit!
Hehehehe, we used to do a similar thing. We would go nuts and act all crazy, mostly to see people's reactions, and when people were about to lose it, we said "its ok, we're canadian".
For the record:
Iridium is found on the Earth, but only in small quantities. The iridium anomaly is a band of clay greatly enriched in iridium over background levels.
Earthly processes can concentrate iridium, even on fairly large scales, but not even approaching the degree needed to explain the very high levels observed, let alone the world wide extent of the enrichment.
It's also worth pointing out that not all non-earthly bodies are enriched in iridium, so it's possible to suffer an impact event without iridium enrichment.
On the subject of mass extinctions and impacts: most of the notable mass extinctions in the Earth's history have apparently not been caused by impacts. Really large extinctions are fairly rare (depending on how you count, there are about five really big ones), and comet/asteroid impacts are much, much, more common.
It's possible that this paricular impact was especially disasterous because it hit close to North America where most of the dinosaurs lived, it was a very large impact, it hit in the ocean which generated exceptionally large tsunamis as well as water vapor, it hit limestone which was vaporized to produce CO2, and there was gypsum or anhydrite interbedded with the limestone which would have produced unpleasant sulfur compounds including sulfuric acid rain...but that's hardly the whole story. Still, it is a rather unpleasant start.
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>Christianity has arguably caused more evil overall than any other organization in history
PEOLPLE acting in the "name" of Christiany commited those evil acts. Christianity in and of itself is anything but evil.
>I challenge any of you to provide any real credible verifiable undeniable proof of the existance of the Christian god. I doubt it can be done.
No it can't be done. That's not the point. Religion is based on faith. Period. It is pointless to demand proof, etc. The spiritual cannot be approached from a scientific point of view. That, however, is not to say that science and religion are mutually exlusive. For instance I am both a practicing Catholic and a professional geologist.
Yeah, that was where I had to fight Lavos a couple of years ago. Tough bastard -- too bad killing it created an alternate dimension...
Hello,
I am french, and I would really appreciate some feedback about that...
many thanks
Or so one person stated the last time this was on /.
I personally think they all evolved in racist darwin fashion into small lemmings, and were trapped by a mad, yes mad I tell you, computer games programmer, and transported back to the future, and NUKED by hundreds of perverse children, to shreiks of 'Oh oh!' and manic, manic I tell you, laughter.
You ever set a blocker, then another right next to it, wait til all the lemmings fall into the trap, then NUKE THE LITTLE BITCHES DIE!!
yey.
"Actually, it is our greatest fear, that of becoming American or Americanised. We prefer not to live in a perpetual state of fear."
Liar.
Mod this guy's parent up please.
We have to spend all that money on our Military you goddamn idiots!!!!!! Who the fuck do you think would save your ass if the shit happened to hit the fan right over your goddamned heads. Stupid Canadian Fucks ;) !!!!
-Never believe in the end of something great, send it to sub-committee for further study!!! - ME
Well, if you don't allow people to be very poor, they can have no desire to be very rich. When I reached age 21, I was expected to provide my own food, clothing and health care, or go without. MY CHOICE. In Canada, there is no choice. therefore no opportunity.
Food not Bombs is a nice platitude but it breaks down when you notice that the Bombees are usually well fed
Don't worry, you can choose to go without clothing and food in Canada if you want. (??)
Well, if you don't allow people to be very poor, they can have no desire to be very rich.
You're a libertarian, so you probably believe that. Sure. But anyway, what does that have to do with Canada? We have lots of homeless people, and lots of really really rich people too. Does that clear things up?
Hands in my pocket
Frankly space exploration is and should be above the almighty dollar.
Sigh. The operative word there is should. What should be and what is are two quite distinct matters.
If you wish to see phenomenal progress in Space, find a way to make it turn a profit. You'll live to witness contract negotiations between businesses and astronaut unions.
As I have said before if we could set up a truly International Space Agency with contributions from every nation on the planet then we would be getting a hell of a lot further along than we are at the moment.
A "truly international" Space Agency would spend most of it's time squabbling over which country gets the rocket contracts and how much launch facility compensation must be paid.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
A "truly international" Space Agency would spend most of it's time squabbling over which country gets the rocket contracts and how much launch facility compensation must be paid.
Funny that sounds exactly like the way it happens now, only replacing nation states with US States. I never said it would be easy, it will need strong leadership and a hands off approach from the pollies (I know I know) but it could happen.
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Hughes, sought to gain control of the voter registration lists kept in
her home. Masking her fear and thinking fast, Mrs. Chine quickly divided
a nearby apple in two and deftly stored the list in its center. Upon
entering, the British blatantly violated every conceivable convention,
and, though they went through the house virtually bit by bit, their
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