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6. CMYK *and* PANTONE colorspaces

8. GIMPSHOP here: http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294

9. RAW digital camera support

um, some guy modded the user interface just for people like you GimpShop at http://plasticbugs.com/

Here ya go:

GimpShop

Want something really photoshop like I'd recommend gimpshop http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294 instead.

Or maybe try out paint.net? http://www.getpaint.net/

I used to do Cad work, and searched high and low for a good CAD program for Linux. Basicly there is no "free" program that I found acceptable to my standards. If you are a professional graphic artist, you probably won't find Gimp acceptable to your standards. I imagine that the reason that Gimp doesn't change their interface, is that many people who have used it for a long time would complain.. just as I am sure photoshop users would complain if their interface was drasticly redesigned (even if better) Right or wrong, there are many people who have invested their time into learning the gimp interface. It's definately not that way I would design it, but it is what it is, and I have made it do what I need to do.. Luckily, I don't need to use it every day.

Your link might be fruity, it's not to the developer's site but rather to a "fan" site, whatever that means. The exe wouldn't load and gave a suspect error message, also it is a different size than the one from the real site.

http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294

I would love to recommend it as a free tool to my friends that do this sort of work 45 hours a week. But I can't. Not due to any single missing feature but because Artists are not inherently computer-people. It's not just a list manipulators to them, it's a set of tools like pencils or brushes-in-the-hand that they have invested their thinking in.

I tried and failed a few times to get into GIMP, but the interface just wasn't doing it for me. I recently discovered Gimpshop, an elegant hack of GIMP which emulates the Photoshop interface. It's fantastic, I find it much more intuitive than plain GIMP, and I've even managed to use it to get a Photoshop-trained graphic design guru to explore FOSS with it.

>A better GUI for Gimp wouldn't hurt
See GimpSHOP at http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294

There is an alternative about the GUI for GIMP: it makes GIMP similiar (in a certain way) to Photoshop: http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294

The Gimpshop page clearly shows that most people seem to want a familiar interface when having used photoshop earlier. The other reason maybe the host of available plugins to photoshop (Kai's powertools and a few others that they already own) for the digital image manipulation business. But as Gimpshop clearly shows, Gimp can be hacked and made to look like photoshop for the average photoshop user. I am not sure this is possible with Adobe's photoshop itself. So Opensource and its flexibility from which GIMP is born far outweighs photoshop. IMO, GIMP is already better than photoshop thanks to flexibility. For those who haven't been able to hack it themselves, they just need to ask a group of hackers to help them with a Photoshop look and feel, compatibility with photoshop plugins if they are already used to the other application. No need to look for Photoshop killers here, Photoshop has been in use (like MS Windows) and has been quite a well written product. The GIMP has reached a far more flexible state matching features in a shorter period of time due to a large user base. With a few more hacks, usability, look and feel options and plugin support for third party plugins, for the GIMP it is only a matter of time before Adobe will need to rethink their Photoshop strategy.

One Word GimpShop
http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241

For one, even on Windows, it uses multiple windows for the same app. That doesn't make ANY sense from a UI perspective, and means that I often have to click more than four times in order to bring GIMP back up to focus when it's behind other Windows.

Okay, I'll bite. The reason that Gimp uses multiple windows and not a MDI is because on UNIX, most window managers default to either "focus follows mouse" or "sloppy" focus. the Gimp's SDI makes sense if you are using virtual desktops or multiple monitors, but not if you're confined to a single workspace with click to focus windows.

Interestingly enough, Photoshop for Windows uses a MDI while Photoshop for OSX uses a SDI (MDI on Windows was originally a hack to make up for Mac OS's global menu bar). To see GIMP in action with a MDI, try downloading GIMPshop, a fork of the GIMP which copies the Photoshop interface.

Is photoshop on OS X different than on windows? Because on Windows -"It's always on top, and it takes at least a minute to load all the fonts, extensions, scripts etc. " is exactly how the splash screen for Photoshop acts. Is there some other graphics program that does everything Gimp and Photoshop does but yet loads instantly or something? In short what's the freaking problem?

Make GIMP useable use Gimpshop. http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=288

There is a mod to the GIMP (gimpshop found here ) that remaps the menus to match those of Photoshop so the learning curve for GIMP is not really that bad at all; i.e. there really would not be that much to "learn".

Probably it'd be a threat today if the Windows version supported a containing window

Like this?

Give Gimpshop a whirl. It's hacked to look more like Photoshop in the UI department.

That said, it is quite powerful once you can get used to the UI. Maybe not quite a Photoshop killer, but I definitely thinks it stacks up well against Paint Shop Pro.

Or you could use DittyBot + Skype and do it one song at a time.

I tried introducing Windows users to Gimp and even Gimpshop but the thing that always gets in the way is the file open/save dialogue. It might look right at home on a Gnome desktop but in Windows or KDE it just looks, works and feels completely different to the open and save dialogue you get in other applications. It's different, very different. Firefox on KDE also has this problem, that is a Gnome-esk file browser.

Openoffice used to have this problem too but now at least uses the native open/save dialogue to blend in with the style of the window manager it is running with.

Is this too difficult to do?

Like, I said, its not feasible for 99% of the user community, just because someone is doing it doesn't mean everyone can. From http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241:

I have been hacking the Gimp for weeks and it's finally ready.

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What made this project especially difficult is that there isn't one file that holds all of Gimp's tool names and menu structure. I've modified hundreds of files and combed thousands of lines of code to make this version of Gimp a reality. This work pales in comparison to real coding, but for a hack like me, it required a lot of learning and work.

And thats just for moving the menu widgets around.

Interestingly enough, someone hacked the GIMP interface to behave more like Photoshop. GIMPshop has versions for MacOS X, Linux and Windows. Worth a shot, anyway.

Try GIMPshop, GIMP with PhotoShop menus.

Check out GimpShop. Sounds like there are people working on a more "sane" interface for Gimp. Cheers!

the link on the website has changed and does not work. the link in the parent post still works (and is very fast) http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/GIMPshop.dmg.tb z

I think the site provides the source code. I'll compile in MinGW and see how it goes.

Ha! one of the gimp developers thinks this is a fork.

The original link is here, if anyone wishes to try it out.