Domain: pogo.com
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Re:This is why...
I'm a fan of Pogo myself. There's also Yahoo games.
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The industry usage of "casual gamer"
I think the point the GP was trying to make (and I agree with) is that contrary to what the article is claiming "hardcore" shouldn't be based on the types of games being purchased. IMO "hardcore" describes the amount of time someone sets aside out of the rest of their life to game.
Although I certainly think you have a point here, as someone who works in the Casual Games industry, I should point out that the term "casual gamer" is different that what you might expect. It's basically a consumer of casual games, which are your lighter-fare titles such as Bejeweled, Hearts, Solitaire, Minesweeper, etc. I think it's sort of an open question whether or not this includes licensed/franchised games as well (games based on movies, etc.), but I am inclined to think that it would. Those titles often share characteristics found in typical casual game fare, such as being relatively cheap to produce, and often having lighter game mechanics (thus more approachable to people of all ages and game experience).If you only ever play Happy Feet, Cars, Open Season, and countless other cheap poorly rated franchised games but you play them every waking moment, I'd say that you're a hardcore gamer.
Ironically, in the casual games industry, there are certainly "hardcore casual gamers". Yes, it sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't. One great example are the gamers at Pogo.com. The games on that site are definitely considered "casual" by many, yet the point incentives and community features of the site often draw users (typically 30+ year old women) to spend literally hours a day, playing their favorite games there. So yes, they are considered to be "hardcore casual gamers", much like the person in your example (someone who plays hours of cheap licensed/franchised titles).
I don't want to get into a semantics argument, since I agree that the terms casual and hardcore can be bloody confusing, depending on who you're talking to. But I wanted to give everyone some context of what the industry usage of "casual" means. -
Re:forced ad serves?
Obviously you have not played on the game sites like http://www.pogo.com/. Personaly I think they are a waste of time,, but I know a lot of people (my wife included) love the "free" online games. If you haven't seen the site, you are forced to sit through a 30 second display of an ad every game, or several games you play.
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Offline gaming is to online gaming as...
Offline gaming is to online gaming as CDROM is to Web. How many of us are still using that dusty old Encarta install to look up info on the Soviet Union? I don't know anyone still using CDROMs for information. Everyone goes online to the web to do research.
I don't know how long it will take, but the same thing will happen with gaming. Online gaming will annihilate offline console gaming.
Humans are social creatures, we are wired to enjoy interaction with other people. Playing with or *around* other people is more exciting. Playing FPS games like Battlefield and Halo feel offline feels like running around a ghost town compared to playing online.
And all interaction doesn't have to be intense, fast paced competition. There are plenty of non-competitive online casual games that let players just hang out together. Pogo.com is a good example of that type. You can chat with other players, see their status and you see alerts when they win big jackpots.
It remains to be seen if they can provide a rich enough experience, but Microsoft is on the right track with online gaming. Offline consoles are a dead end. -
Re:The alphabet according to google suggest
It is also interesting to see the most popular web sites. Start by typing www. into google suggest. The top 10 are:
- www.yahoo.com - Search/Directory
- www.hotmail.com - Email
- www.google.com - Search
- www.ebay.com - Shopping
- www.msn.com - Portal
- www.aol.com - Portal
- www.ebay.co.uk - Shopping
- www.irs.gov - Government
- www.mapquest.com - Maps
- www.amazon.com - Shopping
Typing one more letter shows you the top sites for that letter. Here is the top for each letter:
- a is for www.aol.com - Portal
- b is for www.bbc.co.uk - News
- c is for www.cnn.com - News
- d is for www.dictionary.com - Reference
- e is for www.ebay.com - Shopping
- f is for www.food.gov.uk - Government
- g is for www.google.com - Search
- h is for www.hotmail.com - Email
- i is for www.irs.gov - Government
- j is for www.juno.com - Internet service provider
- k is for www.kbb.com - Consumer information
- l is for www.lyrics.com - Music
- m is for www.msn.com - Portal
- n is for www.nick.com - Kids
- o is for www.orbitz.com - Travel
- p is for www.pogo.com - Games
- q is for www.qvc.com - Shopping
- r is for www.rotten.com - Information
- s is for www.sears.com - Shopping (sorry slashdot)
- t is for www.target.com - Shopping
- u is for www.usps.com - Government
- v is for www.verizon.com - Telephone service
- w is for www.weather.com - Weather
- x is for www.xanga.com - Blogs
- y is for www.yahoo.com - Portal
- z is for www.zappos.com - Shopping
This is some random commentary to make sure that my post has enough characters per line on average to get by the lameness filter. Just a few more words should do it. Then I will be over the limit. Maybe you would like to hear a bit about my projects: Attesoro - A internationalization editor for Java programs. Coinmill - A currency conversion website with many currencies, and features such as abilty to parse English sentences asking for currency conversion. Java Utilities - Utilities for common task in the Java programming language such as parsing CSV files and string manipulation.
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Re:Cribbage, and any other card games.
as far as online gaming goes, I've been playing spades on http://pogo.com/ for a while, and am pretty happy with them. They have a lot of games, card and otherwise, and you don't have to get lynched for bringing up msn
:-) Also, http://games.yahoo.com/ has a bunch of good games, but they seem to me to be not quite as poliched as the pogo ones. -
Not just retro games
I agree that paying $20 for a bunch of retro games doesn't seem right, but most folks are forgetting that the bulk of the games on Live Arcade are going to be all the newer downloadable games that can be found on MSN, Yahoo, Pogo, etc. Those games are all priced around $20 bucks.
See the following sites:
http://zone.msn.com/en/root/downloads.htm
http://www.gamehouse.com/
http://www.pogo.com/togo/tg-topgames.jsp?sls=2&sit e=pogo
Most of these games have free versions you can play on the web, but they have fewer features and are loaded with ads.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of these downloadable games, but undoubtedly they must make a lot money, for them to be around at so many sites. If $20 turns out to be too high for the XBox Live Arcade audience, then I'm sure MS will tweak the price a bit. -
Re:Nah, not really
Which fully functional OS would that be?
Sorry, applets=applications in a browser. So here you go!
http://ea.pogo.com/rooms/roomtabs.jsp?game=ccstrik e&site=eaga
http://www.crystalsquid.com/games/tjjx/trafficjx_p lay.php
http://www.crystalsquid.com/games/mt/monkey_play.p hp
Not a Zealot, just willing to believe that Java can do more than those without any knowledge of Java believe it can do :) -
Re:Robocode?Does anyone know if robocode works right with this new version?
I don't know about robocode (never played it), but I have found that another Java game (Word Whomp) has incredible difference in performance between browsers. On Mozilla, it is unplayable. On Safari, it is nearly perfect. As far as I can tell, both use the same Apple-provided Java plugin.
If you haven't already done so, try several different browsers with your game and see if any perform better than others.
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looks nice
Seems to be a pretty version of Pogo.com, which is basically a lot of puzzle/casino games coupled with an irc-like chat.
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Pogo.com
Has anyone been to pogo.com, a free online game site. They have an advertising scheme where after a while of playing their free online games (java i believe), an animated add covers the window with a coundown display that starts at 30 seconds down to 0. It works because the games are short and have a clear beginning and end to them. Kind of a television advertisment feel.
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pogo.com
If it hasn't been mentioned yet, try Pogo.com. There are your basic casino games and arcade type games, but then there are lots of time-diverting word games and trivia games (the educational stuff). Since you are a geek, there are also classic strategy games like chess, checkers, etc. I've played chess matches with people all over the U.S., which is a lot more fun than playing the computer!
Unfortunately, it is quite slow with Macs, so I have to play on a Winders machine (I haven't tried it with a Linux machine so I can't attest to how fast it is).
I don't really think there is anything on there to actually teach them about computers though... except of course, the process of going to the website and playing the games.
Have fun!
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How many people can beat the computer?Finially a
/. post about chess@!! I was wondering when you geeks would get around to it. :)
Can anyone recommend some good chess strategy books? I found this link but it does not give a very good indication of what book would be better than others. I guess it would have to depend on what I want to read about since it is a game of strategy.
So I was interested in how many readers are able to beat the computer when playing say the ChessMaster 7000 - 9000 series? I was interested in buying a chess game that teaches you tactics and strategy. I had heard good things about the ChessMaster series. Are there better titles out there? I think for what they offer it is really good. You can look at most of the famous past chess games to see how the professionals think about the game, well I guess if you could understand them I guess you would be wasting time with the game.
I used to play Kunfuchess online alot until I was forced to connect on a dialup modem. It is a pretty addictive version of chess; anyone who likes chess and hasn't tried it, should.
While surfing for links for the loyal /. readers I came across a couple that might prove useful.
http://www.wolffchess.com/php/home.php3Once you register, you can improve your chess with hundreds of Web-based exercises, specifically designed to complement my book, The Complete Idiot's Guide to Chess.
http://www.chessclub.com/Come join us! Register a name, install our easy-to-use software, and then use that to connect to our playing site. You can try it for free! With over 25,000 paying members from all over the world, Chessclub.com is the longest running and most vibrant chess community on the internet. You can play games and get a rating, watch grandmasters play while discussing the game, take lessons, play in tournaments, play in simultaneous exhibitions, try chess variants like bughouse, crazyhouse and atomic, play chess programs of all levels, and much more.
Of course there are always the game sites that offer chess onlne. It is one of the more popluar classical games that are available by most any site. Here are some that I found.
http://games.yahoo.com/
http://www.pogo.com/
http://www.station.sony.com/
http://www.playsite.com/
http://www.gamespyarcade.com/
and the list keeps on going... I know that I forgot a couple but if you want to play online these links will be more than sufficent to get you going.
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Re:Smartass University Response to Losing this Sui
He has a right to use the equipment within the bounds set by the university. But what are those bounds? I'm typing this on a university-owned computer right now. If I switch over and start playing around at Pogo (I have an unreasonable addiction to Word Whomp), they can boot me out of this lab for using university-owned equipment to play games.
So, the question now becomes: now that universities can no longer allow this unofficial screwing, what policies will be put into place to make it official (and legal)? -
Re:Smartass University Response to Losing this Sui
He has a right to use the equipment within the bounds set by the university. But what are those bounds? I'm typing this on a university-owned computer right now. If I switch over and start playing around at Pogo (I have an unreasonable addiction to Word Whomp), they can boot me out of this lab for using university-owned equipment to play games.
So, the question now becomes: now that universities can no longer allow this unofficial screwing, what policies will be put into place to make it official (and legal)? -
Acts of God...Are explicitly covered in most ISP ToS, when houston is flooded, and our upstream provider (WorldCom) loses something like 1000 DS-3's, a few of which happen to be ours, and all of our customers running out of Bryan/College Station are without service, yea, it sucks, but its not our fault, and there isn't much we can do about, I'm still fairly sure that Customer Service went back across the board and credited all the accounts in the area, even though our ToS didn't call for it. What I hate are the people who bitch me out on the phone when I explain the situation, people DIED during that flood, and all some jack-off's down there cared about was the fact that they couldn't get on Pogo!
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Fun!
I agree with what some of the people here are saying. Kids - inner-city kids especially - will be bored out of their minds with most computer operations that they don't percieve as relevant to their everyday lives, which is most everything, since few of them have access to a computer outside of school.
The only other way to get through to them is by making it fun. I learned LOGO in a "gifted education" class in elementary school. I loved it, but I'm a computer engineer; I know there were other people in the class that hated it. In elementary school, the only computer that was crowded was the one running Oregon Trail, as others have mentioned before me.
With the technology of games - even the simple ones at Pogo and Lycos - I would think you could teach the kids more than they would realize. Using simple online games would introduce the kids to a fun environment while providing a chaperone to keep the kids polite while communicating with other users. I'm not advocating censorship, but I'm certain suggesting that children be taught by more than an "Acceptable Use of Internet" form.
The number of hardcore computer geeks is growing, but we are still outnumbered by huge margins. Most of these kids will probably use databases, spreadsheets, word processors, or other everyday-corporate-America-type programs when they grow up. They'll learn that stuff later. I think the goal of an elementary computer education should be to provide a very basic skill set to every student, and remove any fear or prejudice they have against computers in general. They should just have fun.