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Re:Biggest Source of Noise
Check out QuietPC. I've just set up a quiet machine using their "flower" heatsink and it works very well. Still need to add a bit of cushioning around the case fans, but even then its amazing how much better the whooshing sound of air flow is compared to the phasing in and out of cheap whining fans you get on most kit.
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Re:what kind of hard drive does it have?
I have a 7200 RPM maxtor drive - not very noisy... But now that I put it in a Silent Drive Enclosure anything is noisy..
At first I thought I had forgotten to plug the power back in my HD! -
Re:Shipping from UK
Next time you could check out Quiet PC Canada instead of the buying from the UK website? That might save you a bit on the shipping...
Their order page says that they gladly process US orders by telephone even though the online ordering system is not set up for US customers.
I don't know if it would actually be cheaper in the end, but it's probably worth checking out.
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Re:Who cares about quiet
Here is a place to start that researching...
quietpc.com
Nice power supplies... -
quiet power supplies
I recently replaced a power supply with an Enermax EG365P-VE and was quite impressed with the low noise level.
Another quiet power supply to consider is Ultra Quiet Power Supply from quietpc.com
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Re:Quieter heatsinks... ?
Yeah, I've been on a quest to quiet down my PC for some time now... I am a bit of an audiophile, and I use high-bitrate MP3s in addition to my CD player, so I would like my PC to be silent. The straw that broke the camel's back on this one was the 40GB Maxtor drive that I bought, which was audible through the telephone.
So I ordered a power supply, heatsink, and drive enclosure from Quiet PC. That fixed things to about 90% of what I would like... big improvement. But it is still an aftermarket fix for something that is admittedly broken w.r.t. sound emission.
It's great to see sound finally being considered by the industry... for example, the current trend in hard drives is FDB (Fluid Dynamic Bearings), which allows idle noise from the drive to be in the ~30dB range... and I seem to recall a post here recently about Dell P4 systems being very quiet. -
It just happened to me!
Wow, it just happened to me. Got it's own power-supply wires stuck between the fins (sp?). It was a radial fan.
I ordered a new one from www.quietpc.com. Let's see how that one works. I'm not sure if my CPU got fried or not. Sigh. -
Re:Quite suppiles
you may want to check out this power supply or the enermax whisper series.
alternatively, i understand it is fairly easy to disassemble a power supply and get really nice quiet sanyo denki or panaflow fan to replace the (most likely) lower quality noisy sleeve bearing fan in there now. check out plycon for fans if taking this route.
hope this helps.
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Re:Making Yamaha drives quiet
Me too!
My Yamaha CRW-8424 has a horrible little 25mm fan in it that makes more noise than the rest of my PC together (partly thanks to QuietPC). I'm just waiting for Papst to actually have stock of their funky temperature sensitive quiet fans in 25mm... Apart from that, and no CD-TEXT support, it's a great little drive though. -
Other Great Articles and Sites.Here is a great place to buy quiet components: www.quietpc.com
A very long and informative site on quiet PC's: home.swipnet.se/tr/silence.html
I have been trying to make my computer silent for about two years now. It is still not quiet enought to keep on at night in my bedroom. I'll keep trying though.
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Re:Now all we need...
Is a lownoise 300w powersupply + fan to use with a Athlon thunderbird, and were rolling..
Quiet PC do 250W and 300W quiet power supplies. The 300W is AMD approved. -
Why on system?
Why do you want this thing to do DVD? Honestly. I'm looking into doing something very similar, and all I can say is components, components, components.
You probably don't want to have a system switch duty between mp3 and video capture, and DVD playback from a PC will be inferior to a DVD component most of the time as well (not to mention vastly inferior sound quality on a system with onboard sound). Don't use the DVD drive, get a DVD player. Consider getting a separate PC to do mp3 playback (maybe a used laptop; low heat, low noise, small footprint, and anything over 150MHz can handle mp3 without a sweat), but don't necessarily restrict yourself to mp3s on a local hard drive - NFS isn't a bottleneck when you're playing mp3s.
NFS probably is a bottleneck on video capture; stick with a local hard drive, or consider cacheing data to local disk and copying it over to a file server at your leisure (I would guess that video playback would not be restrained by NFS).
Do you really want a network cable (or two, if you follow my suggestion) running from your stereo/TV to a hub? Consider wireless. Have you already considered and/or dealt with the amount of noise a PC makes? Take a look at Quiet PC to silence your hard drive, power supply, CPU fans, and case fans.
This would result in a setup something like:
- TV
- stereo (preferably surround-sound capable
:) - VCR
- DVD player
- computer audio player/recorder system (say... P200 laptop with wireless card)
- computer video player/recorder system (basically the system you describe - with silenced or silent moving parts, and a wireless card)
- file server, with lots of reasonably capable storage (SCSI-2 would probably do fine, if we're otherwise talking about a 10-11Mb/s network and no performance-sensitive writing like video feeds)
- wireless access point
In addition, you've got a lot of components that you can upgrade independantly, tune for their own purpose, or sell (if that dot.com you're working for goes under).
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My quiet case project : it's an answer ... sort of
Well, it seem these days, most of the power user just care to get something like 200fps in Quake III. Why ? Beat's me ! I'm not on a quest to get the ultimate frame rate, I just want my box to be quiet as possibly can be.
To help you understand my take on the subject, here is the background
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My PC has the following components :- A OEM case
- A 235W OEM power supply
- ASUS P3B-F
- Intel Pentium II rated 400Mhz @ 400Mhz
- A cheap OEM SECC2 Heat-Sink made of aluminum
- A 128MB CAS2 no-name DIMM
- Two 32MB CAS3 Samsung DIMM slowing down my memory timing, but preventing the appearance of the all mighty evil SwaP
- A ATI All-In-Wonder Rage128 16MB
- A Creative SoundBlaster Live! Value
- A Realtek 8139 Ethernet NIC
- My beloved USR 56Kbps ISA Real Modem. Sorry but to me a component that uses CPU power to do it's processing instead of taking the load off is not worthy of being in my computer. Not to mention the M$ Win part...
- A Creative 48x CD-ROM drive. It's the loudest damned thing in my computer when it's spinning
- A Quantum Fireball AS PLUS 40GB (7200RPM) in a removable tray
- A Quantum Fireball CX1 10GB (5400RPM) mounted inside the case
- Of course the stupid old 1.44 MB floppy drive only used for booting Tomsbrt in case of emergency
Soon to be
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- A Adaptec 2940UW
- A Diamond Monster 3D II for Glide games
It turn out that the Quantum Fireball AS makes less noise than the Quantum Fireball CX1. I still have to figure it out
...I use my PC for
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- Running Linux and learning as much as time allows me (Jez I had so much time when I was a student... Think of all the time I wasted in High-School running the evil W monster)
- Doing some gaming i.e. : Diablo II, Unreal, UT, Undying (Although that thing is going to cost me a new box)
- Spending numerous nights filling my brain @ Slashdot, Tomshardware, Anandtech, Arstechnica, StorageReview, Developper.Intel.com, and most importantly, hounding the web for all the case manufacturers and their take at a quiet box.
As I'm writing this post, that is probably going to be the base documentation for my Silent Case Project, you're guessing that my sleepless night of browsing have not yielded the desired result.
I've check out many options such as water cooling, moving the PC to the closet, returning to the forest where a PC is pretty far from your everyday quest for survival. None of them suits me.
The objective of my project is to build a case that meets the following criteria
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- A silent as possible
- Accessible
- Provides sufficient ventilation to maintain all the components running within thermal specs
- Be light enough to be easily transportable (Let's not forget the Lan parties
;-)
To attain those goals I have to
:- Read all I can about noise, sound, aerodynamics, PC specs
- Find suitable materials : A case is not just a protection against unwanted fingers and dust ; it must provide EMI shielding, proper grounding, resist to impacts, and fit into my conception of the king of object you want in your bedroom (If you were thinking about plywood and a box of rusted leftover nails, forget it)
- Find the tools or the companies or individuals with the means to work the materials I choose to build the casing
For the sound isolation I was thinking about some kind of foam. Mineral lint would be affective but that takes too much space and it's not the kind of thing I want beside my bed. Form the casing itself, metal is almost inevitable if you want EMI shielding and grounding. And as for you who wonder why I have not mentioned water cooling yet, the greatest source of noise is not my CPU cooler and your just moving the problem out of the case (Nice ; you have water heating up but unless your reservoir is like a bathtub or something you will have to transfer the heat for the water to the air).
That about as far as I am. If you have any idea that might help me, please fell free to send me some bits forming ASCII characters at Prozzaks@operamail.com
To finish up, here is a list of thing that might help people wanting to achieve similar goals
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- http://www.formfactors.org/ You should be able to find all the documents regarding the ATX form factor and thermal design guides. A must if you want to build a quiet PC.
- http://developer.intel.com/ Intel has contributed a great deal to the ATX definition ; here you will find many relevant documents including thermal design guides for all Intel processors.
- Etract from my favorite's :
Hardware\cases PC CASE
Fong Kai
PowerOn
Enlight Corporation
dir.yahoo Enclosures Manufacturers
procase
YY Computer
Psi
IN WIN
Amtrade
American Suntek
Addtronics
A-Top Technology, Inc
Nikao
Palo Alto Products
Antec
Lian-Li
amaquest
Koolance
Quietpc
PC Power & Cooling
Hardware\Heat Sinks ALPHA
Cooler Master
AVC
ekl
GlobalWIN
globefan
RDJD
Foxconn
Spring Spread
Sanyo Denki
TITAN
TaiSol
ChipCoolers
Orb a
ElanVital
Hardware\Info\Form Factor Platform Development Support
SSI
WTX
Hardware\Info\Standards Fibre Channel Industry Association
PCI SIG
RAB
serialata
SPEC
Hardware\Info\Storage RAID.edu
Hardware\Info\Cours CS 252 - Graduate Computer Architecture
Hardware\Info The PC Guide!
Hardware Bible
FullOn3D
developer.intel.com
HwB The Hardware Book
United Overclockers
Ars Technica
Tech-Junkie
HardwarePub
Webopedia
Illustrated Guide to the PC Hardware
SysOpt
2CPU
Ace's Hardware
Technical Support - RaidHelp v1.0 - Free RAID Technology Guide
Computer Architecture
OPENCORES.ORG
TechFest
MidWest Micro Support
Hardware\Resalers GeekTek!
Micro-Bytes
ALCO
ABC Micro
2CoolTek
Plycon Computers
TCWO
ABC Micro - Lprix
Case Outlet
The Chip Merchant, Inc
Cimsys
OrdiGros
ALIENWARE
SHENTECH
FireStorm
Hyper Microsystems
TWEAKBOX
Hardware\Reviews Tom's Hardware Guide
Sharky Extreme
StorageReview
HardOCP
AnandTech
SystemLogic
x-bit labs
Active-Hardware
FiringSquad
SocketA
Overclockers Australia
HEXUS
dansdata
SysReview
Hardware\Manufacturers AMD
ASUS
Belkin
MassMultiples
Promise
StarTech
VIA Technologies, Inc
ABIT Computer Corp
Comcase
Micron Semiconductor
ECS
Hardware Freeboxen
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Check out QuietPC.comCheck out QuietPC.com.
They offer replacement fans, power supplies (with fans that can turn themselves off), and little sound enclosures for hard drives.
I'm reasonably happy with their products (not sure what the enclosure will do to my hard drive's life, but I've had no problems yet). While my two computer apartment hasn't become perfectly quiet, virtually any noise source renders the computer's inaudible. Before I could always hear the hum of the computers, now I can actually watch TV without the background noise.
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Quietpc.com
try quietpc.com. They've got lots of good stuff, including hard drive cooling blankets. Worth a look.
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Re:Is no one going to answer the question?
Well try this www.quietpc.com/psu.html.
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SolutionsThe `put the box in the next room' solution someone mantione certainly works. I know someone who has done that and other than having to run around the corner to put CDs in it's the perfect solution. an intermediate point is to put a server which can do the hard work in a cupboard somewhere and have a low spec machine with a quiet fan or maybe a laptop as your working machine.
Laptops are also good. I needed to put a firewall in my living room for wireing reasons. I built it from an old laptop. Given no fans and the fact that for most of the time it doesn't touch it's disk, I only really hear it when it does it's overnight system checks (and I'm thinking of moving them to mid morning).
I've ordered some kit from quietpc and I'm going to try silencing my old PC which I keep as a guinea pig. They shipped it this morning, so I can't rally say if it works yet:-).
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Here is one distributorTheir website can be found at QuietPC.com.
They are a UK company, but they may ship to the US or be able to suggest a US distributor.
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Quiet PC componentsQuietPC.com has a number of products for sale that are designed to eliminate or reduce the noise made by your computer, including power supplies, CPU coolers, and case fans.
This sounds like what you're looking for.
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Quiet PC componentsQuietPC.com has a number of products for sale that are designed to eliminate or reduce the noise made by your computer, including power supplies, CPU coolers, and case fans.
This sounds like what you're looking for.
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Quiet PC componentsQuietPC.com has a number of products for sale that are designed to eliminate or reduce the noise made by your computer, including power supplies, CPU coolers, and case fans.
This sounds like what you're looking for.
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Quiet PC componentsQuietPC.com has a number of products for sale that are designed to eliminate or reduce the noise made by your computer, including power supplies, CPU coolers, and case fans.
This sounds like what you're looking for.
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QuietPC
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Really Quiet Case Fan
A friend of mine just got this and he's incredibly please -> quiet case fan
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Radial Fin
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Re:Noise pollution
Have a look at quietpc.com. I've just finished sorting out my 1Ghz Tbird to get it down to an acceptable temperature and noise level. They do silent/quiet PSUs approved by AMD, fans, drive enclosures and other bits. The noisiest thing in my PC now is the 25mm fan in the back of my CDR, which sounds like it's about to fail - Papst have just announced a quiet 25mm fan, but it's not actually available yet.
Also try http://home.swipnet.se/tr/silence.html for more lots of info regarding 'Silent PCs', TCO99, and what manufacturers can help you. -
Re:Only turn the fan on while needed?
I use a muffler type device for my desktop. Get them from quietpc.com. Works great
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Sturdy is good, but I want QUIET...As they make hard drives faster and faster, they keep getting noisier. Why not direct some development dollars toward making a quiet line of hard drives. I'd like nothing more than to have a silent computer. At least someone has thoughts in that direction, though engineering it right into the drive would also likely save power. Can anyone say, "Set top box"?
Tim
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Re:Really quiet computersI recently bought a 30 GB IBM DeskStar [...] and, sure, it's quiet. But it's not silent.
Yes, it's never going to be silent. IBM may claim it's the quietest drive around, but I'll bet the Quantum lct15 is actually the quietest.
I built one computer using an lct10 (the predecessor of the lct15) and then put the drive in a SilentDrive acoustical jacket. That computer uses a K6-III with an extra-quiet cooling fan, and an extra-quiet power supply fan, and a video card with no cooling fan at all. It is pretty darn close to a silent computer.
P.S. While searching for the URL that goes with SilentDrive, I stumbled across a pretty good page about really quiet PCs.
steveha
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silence?
I'm not so sure about silencing -- if you need to put 1000 of them they might became to be quite noisy. Here is what I came up recently looking for a silent computer solution:
Molex Thermal Acoustic Products
Directron: silent components
The Silent PC
Quiet PC (UK)
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Re:I love this type of article :)
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Re:Noisy computers in bedrooms - URL Correction
There was a typo in the URL. The site (which is a British company) is QuietPC
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Quiet hardwareThe Quantum LCT10 drives are near silent. I've got two of those inside of drive enclosures from QuietPC and I flat out can't hear them. Their power supply fan isn't quite so impressive - the default that shipped with my PIII makes less noise and I believe it dissipitates heat better.
The power supplies in the cases from Antec are pretty quiet - their cheap bondi-blue, red, orange, etc. cases are great - unplug the fan over the CPU if you don't need the extra cooling, and the power supply fan itself is VERY quiet. Plus the plastic over metal seems to help eliminate any kind of the familiar resonant vibrations.
I stuck to the Matrox MG400 card as it was a good performer and didn't need a fan - the newer NV cards all have very audible fans.
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Re:Noisy computers in bedrooms
Link should be QuietPC.com
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Re:Quieter CasesGee, does anybody actually use Google anymore? I asked Google for quiet power supply ATX and just one of the many wonderfully informative links it returned was for QuietPC.com.
I think I'll order a new power supply now...
rm
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Re:Noisy computers in bedroomsI've got a noisy P200 as well. As I'd like to have high uptimes and be able to sleep at the same time, I looked into the sources of noise in the case. The idea was to allow only one source of noise to be active at a time, and find out how loud each one is.
I concluded that the CPU fan and the hard drive produce next to no sound. This is great, because otherwise silencing the drive would not be easy. There are some commercial hard drive enclosures that claim to quiet down the drive, but at the expense of overheating.
The noisiest component was the fan in the power supply. I stopped the fan by sticking a screwdriver into the vent, and found that the PC was very close to silent. Of course, this is not a long term solution.
One possible attack is to drill vent holes in the power supply enclosure, and unplug the built-in fan. I wonder if the air flow enabled by the holes would suffice to prevent the power supply from burning up.
Another possibility is to grab a quiet power supply from quietpc.com. Has anyone tried those?
--ac
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Re:Intel CPU heat dissipation?
This is a good site for a listing of processor power dissipation figures:
http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm
Regards
Glenn Garrett
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Re:Less power consumption, less heat, less fans ?
Amen, brother.
PC Power and Cooling sells quiet fans, power supplies, etc. QuietPC is another place to look. Elan Vital specializes in quiet cases, also.
In my case (pun) "fan noise" is really turbulence caused by the fan trying to blow or suck air through inadequate openings. My stupid case had very small perforations where the case fans were attached that were quite noisy. Imagine blowing through a window screen. The solution I used was to cut those perforations away, which left 3" holes for the fans to blow through. I coved them with standard wire grills. This worked quite well, though it's a lot of work.
john