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Re:Good
Don't you get it? The kooks already have guns. The ones that don't have knives.
How does one tell? The odd looking fellow toting his AR15 around Lowe's or Denny's doesn't look a whole lot different than the guy who's planning on popping us, then escaping justice by eating his gun barrel.
No I don't "get it". You might consider moving to Afghanistan, where even the children are packing.
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The necessity of carrying a gun everywhere is a show of fear. I have guns, I use guns, but I don't have the fear inherent in gun nuts and soccer moms, so I carry when I have a good reason to, and that isn't everywhere.
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Re:Just the Start?
Fair enough, child abuse is universally against the law (unless there are a few countries without such laws on their statue)
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I can't wait
The Muzzies will have to 'detain' rats for colaberating with the enemy (civilised world) as well as vultures and sharks. With any luck this will distract them from persecuting non-Muslims, raping under-age girls (OK so according to them 9 isn't over age, I mean by civilised standards), and from honour killings
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Re:As if he's pointing out hypocrisy?
Yeah. I'm not really having a problem with them creating drones especially when they're used to kill people who poison girls schools. Like they did a couple of days ago. So that'd make 400 students so far at 4 different schools I believe.
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Re:They will make them comply
20. ^ Graham Fuller in interview with Peter Bergen, Bergen, Peter, Holy War Inc., Free Press, (2001), p.68 21. ^ Henry S. Bradsher, Afghan Communism and Soviet Interventions, Oxford University Press, 1999, p.185 22. ^ "The Road to September 11". Evan Thomas. Newsweek. 1 October 2001. 23. ^ "1986-1992: CIA and British Recruit and Train Militants Worldwide to Help Fight Afghan War". Cooperative Research History Commons. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a86operationcyclone. Retrieved 2007-01-11. 24. ^ "CIA worked with Pak to create Taliban". India Abroad News Service. 2001-03-06. http://www.rawa.org/cia-talib.htm. Retrieved 2007-01-11. 25. ^ "CIA bin Laden". October 2001. http://www.sabrang.com/cc/archive/2001/oct01/cover6.htm. Retrieved 2007-01-10. 26. ^ "Did the U.S. "Create" Osama bin Laden?". US Department of State. 2005-01-14. http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24-318760.html. Retrieved 2007-01-09.
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Re:Saving lives??
Participation in this war of agression is categorically a war-crime. Period.
It wasn't a crime to kill blacks in South Africa, at one time, either.
I offer two articles about Afghanistan. If this result not crime, it is only because the laws have been written by the oppressor.
Media Distortion: Killing Innocent Afghan Civilians to "Save Our Troops"
Eight Years of Horror Perpetrated agaisnt the people of Afghanistan
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15665Photos of Civilians Injured by US/NATO Forces in Afghanistan
http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2009/10/19/photos-of-civilians-injured-by-us-nato-forces-in-afghanistan.htmlGermans were hung for exactly comparable actions. If you remember, "Blitzkreig" was universally condemned as inhumane and a war against a population, not an army. Now, war against population - and the jet-age perfection of blitz methodology - is routinely justified. You are an apologist for atrocity.
Read that again. YOU are an apologist for ATROCITY. You DRINK the blood of children. Not directly - you get sloppy seconds off the sacrificial table of the baby-murderers. You kill you OWN mother, through others.
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Re:Slavery = Stupidity ? How un-multicultural of y
The only basis for that ruling that I've found was a judicial ruling dating back to the 11th and 12th centuries, during the Crusades, you'll note.
Christian convert faces death penalty in Afghanistan http://www.rawa.org/convert.htm The Guardian, Mar.20, 2006 -
Where are all the Pauls?
Ron Paul's campaign is a symptom of the same foolishness that was Nader 2000, the idea that politics isn't local, that all you need is a trendy / genius / misguided / radical / (insert opinion) platform or platforms and one candidate can run for the highest office in the land and Change Everything. Ron Paul doesn't have a party. As far as I can tell he's not a Republican (I mean that as a compliment and I did RTFA), says he isn't a Libertarian (and exactly how many Libertarian state governors are there? Just curious). He's running for the Republican party he wants not the Republican party which exists which is like being a Muslim feminist. Or, for that matter, many of the Ron Paul internetters who seem to be supporting the Ron Paul they want, not the Ron Paul they have.
So all you Ron Paul-ites / Naderites / Greens / whatevers. Get some mayors elected first, some governors, take over a few states. (and yes the Greens do have some elected officials). Making bold/bizarre speeches about the gold standard or keeping government out of environmental regulation (what? we settle it with guns?) is very entertaining, but it doesn't get the trash picked up, the schools financed, the roads fixed.
That said, he was/is far and away the most intelligent of the Republicans and in a better world not wanting to slaughter Muslims wouldn't be a deal breaker and the Republican party would actually be the party of small government. A Paul VS Obama debate on social welfare would be very interesting.
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Re:Oddly enough...The Economist and CNN have crystal clear pictures of the protests and the crackdown. Well, if paid enough The Economist and CNN might have crystal clear pictures of military leaders, telling protesters to be terrorists and how well the honorable peoples army is dealing with the situation.
Check the site of Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan RAWA. They are the ones who risked their lives by capturing the horrors of life under a Taliban regime. The Economist, CNN and even the US government have been happily transmitting the pictures taken by the RAWA. So, please don't play down the importance of people risking their lives in taking the grainy pictures.
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Re:Good grief!-Logic takes a dirt nap.
"And yes, Iran and Saudi Arabia have higher HDI than India"
Yes, well. If they didn't have all that oil to sit on they'd be as poor as Lesotho, feudal dumps that they are socially. AT least the Indian STATE does not sanction stoning women to death or chopping their hands off. The actions of people notwithstanding.
"but the vast majority of Indians are still rotting in an unimaginably socially oppressive environment that is based on casteism and anti-women practices"
Well, presumably you're a Pakistani troll , a self-hating Indian, or some left wing liberal buffoon so obsessed with hating India that you had to take time away from whatever little life you had to look at obscure websites. I never denied that women were treated badly in many parts of the country.
However, let's not talk about Pakistan's many honor killings:
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engASA3301819 99
or these ladies who have a thing or two to say about treatment of women in another muslim country of ill repute:
http://www.rawa.org/
"And did I forget to mention that in your vaunted Indian law rape within marriage is not considered a crime"
More quote mining from an inbred troll. Quote INDIAN PENAL LAW from a credible source that says that rape is allowed, then talk my friend (or do you prefer Janaab?)...
"almost 80% of Indians live below the US$ 2/day income level"
You can get a lot of food in India for $2, my friend. Too bad that you may have to survive on hamburgers that make you as fat as Michael Moore.
"BTW, your "voluntary dowry" phrase made me laugh! Just shows that an entire society (including the "educated" elite) has succumbed to the social evil instead of fighting it"
Too bad you can't quote any reliable stats to back up your screed against India.Forced dowry sucks, but basic dowry customs are meant for providing a financial boost to the bride and groom, so nothing wrong with it. It's only a problem when the in-laws decide to pocket the money and make the bride suffer. There are laws in India that arrest the entire family of the groom when such a thing is reported in an FIR. We have gone a long way to curb this issue, and no idiot slashdot troll can change that as part of some hate-propaganda campain (as though slashdot is the place for such things). Go troll in a Paki forum, they'll like you there.
Here, I'll help you. You can try using wonderful choice phrases: 'nigger','dothead','Indian hindu chutyia haraami','Indian bastard','deserves to be ethnically cleansed','animals','urine drinkers','no dogs or Indians allowed' and , let's see. What else can we think up to get a hater started ...?
For generations, people have not been able to digest their food without housting a few drinks and attacking Indians on the streets. gave life meaning to so many of them...
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Re:The state of War
You must yearn for the day when women were being executed in soccer stadiums in Afghanistan, don't you?
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Re:How does this help security?
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it's about more than the children
In Afghanistan, women were beaten and sometimes executed for showing even their naked ankles in public. Here is a website created by Afghan women where they describe the restrictions placed on them by the Taliban. So, probably those women were psychologically harmed by their fundamentalist abusers.
It is up to you to prove that naked breasts are detrimental to our society if you are going to advocate that women be restricted from baring their breasts in public. I submit that you oppose women baring their chests in public because you are uptight about a woman's body. If you disagree, then tell me how it's bad for a woman's breasts to be displayed. -
Speaking as a long-time anti-american weenie......let me say "good riddance" to this piece of human rubbish. I don't care what they do with him.
There are many things you can fault the USA with but no matter how open-minded you are, nothing deserves 9/11. Nor did the firebombing of Dresden, which killed more people than the bombing of Hiroshima, or the mindless genocide in Rwanda.
There is simply no excuse for helping out in the inhuman monsters that made up the Taleban. I don't care if you were "simply fundraising" or whatever; that you're even associating indirectly with these bastards then you're as much a murderer as they were.
Have a look at the revolutionary association of the women from afghanistan for a mild idea of the kind of crap the taleban were responsible for. If slitting people's throats in soccer stadiums for minor crimes is cool with you, then by all means go help the taleban. But in return, you had better not expect any mercy from me.
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"temp employee": sign of economic injusticeI'd just like to make a point here: when you see "temp employee", what you are seeing is "we don't want to or can't pay this person a full time salary and benefits". In other words, we can't or won't pay the upkeep costs of our help.
I can understand this for a startup company, as long as the company quickly moves to start covering the costs of its labor. But in the case of a wealthy organization, this means that the wealthy organization just *chooses* not to give economic justice. More for me, nothing for you.
I have been seeing this more and more, and it is part of what ails America. It comes from the move to give more to the investors, and comes from the blinds that are provided by corporate coverage, in which the investors can't see the plight of their workers.
But let me point out the results of economic injustice: if there is economic injustice, then the victim's investments remain unpaid, and in that case, it does not pay for the victim to invest!
In the case of inventors who can't afford to patent and defend their inventions, because the patent system only benefits wealthy corporations, the proper response is to not devote effort to inventing.
In the case where your compensation is not based upon justice, it does not pay to invest in an education that will make you a more valuable employee.
In the case where businesses are taxed to death, so that other businesses can recieve lucrative government contracts, it does not pay to start a business and help the economy: it pays to work your own garden instead.
In the case where individuals are taxed to death, to pay for more tax collectors, the farmer's strategy doesn't pay -- only the highway robber's strategy pays. If you want to see what this is like, look at Congo/Zaire.
If you think it is getting bad, and the problem is the government, then tell the government. If you don't think they'll listen, then it's better to leave, and find a better place.
If you think it is getting bad, and the problem is the people (yeah, they're all good people, they just, well, you can depend on them to do really evil things), then it's doubly important to find a better group of people.
If worst comes to worst, duck, cover the ones you love as well as possible, stay out of the way of wars as much as possible, and try to live with as much justice and charity as possible.
But the bible is absolutely right: when we choose to withhold a man's wages, we commit violence. When we choose economic theft as a regular diet, we commit murder. And we recreate our world to become a horror. Our spiritual failings definitely bring physical problems and death.
Just my two cents. That's all.
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Re:Answers to your "hate speech" questionsI was taking cover in the Jacksonism myself. While I don't have much respect for the man, personally, I have to admit that the Saturday Night Live episode he hosted (that's where the quote comes from) was funny as hell.
I think censorship, while justified in certain situations (many parents have a lock on their bedroom door, for example, and most don't allow their children to watch snuff films) will always carry with it the "imbalance" that you've pointed out. The Disney channel portrays a world of impossible sweetness and light. I like the Disney channel, and I also like the fact that I get to choose whether to use it or not.
Consider the following scenario: a site on kids.us wants to make videos of presidential addresses available. Does the site need to censor these addresses? President Bush has even labeled countries as evil and said that we will "hunt the terrorists [read Al Quaeda] down". I think it will be a shame if kids.us is that restrictive.
I don't let my kids listen to Bush's speeches, but I admit it's mostly because of his crimes against the english language and not the content. I tell my kids that proper speech is vitally important to their future, so letting them watch the most powerful man in the world murder his own native tongue undermines my lesson!
However, Quakers are not prohibited from reading about violence, are they? They could still use the site. The standard of "it will offend someone" is impossible to adhere to.
Yup, that's the root of the problem. I'm sure Disney offends somebody! Come to think of it, Disney's subversion of the US legal system in order to "protect" Mickey Mouse offends me... but that's another sidetrack we probably don't want to go down here. Their content, not their activities, is what I was referring to earlier.
Sure, Quakers can read about violence, but they probably don't want their kids to be subjected to pro-violence propaganda; I think that to them, advocating any war (against terror, or drugs, or Iraq, or any other flavor of the week) would be pro-violence propaganda.
However, I just had a thought: the standard shouldn't be whether it's appropriate for kids, but whether it's safe for kids. Let me clarify with an example: an organic chemistry text-book is not appropriate for kids, but if someone wants to post it - let them. That way, if a school computer is set to only allow access to kids.us, and a teacher wants to look up some information, they probably still can get it.
Unfortunately, that standard is only slightly less contentious than "appropriateness". I have no problem with putting Org Chem text-books on the web, but some parents would be offended by this because the information will let a bright 12-year old figure out how to make fuel-air explosions and diesel/fertilizer bombs.
I think kids.us should not advocate anything that isn't unequivocally considered "good" by all the major religions and philosopies. You could cut the last 12 words off that sentence and it would probably have the same meaning.
The Temple of the Screaming Electron has (among their vast collection of insane rants and wacked-out diatribes) most of the statements of Usama bin Laden that are available in English, as well as stuff attributed to him by others. Very interesting reading, and far less boring than the Unabomber Manifesto (the cliched Islamic "blessed be his name, etc." stuff gets old fast, though).
RAWA is the best place for Afghan information. They have a political axe to grind, sure, but they don't try to hide it. And the Taliban is still around, incidentally, just waiting for Hekmatyar or one of the other warlords to finish off Karzai. -
Re:Attitudes towards women
My point is, is that society has created a backlash against this natural tendency - a backlash called "the feminist movement..."
So, feminism is inherently anti-biological? That's problematic. I mean, what you are implicitly suggesting then is that either women have been treated equally since the dawn of history, or that women shouldn't have equal rights and control over their bodies and minds. I mean, what do you think feminism is ?It's one thing to say live and let live. I can agree with that. It's another to say that feminism is anti-natural or anti-biological. For many people, feminism is simply about making sure that women don't get beaten, raped, harrassed, have their rights taken away, etc. It's really that simple.
It's biology. You can fight it. But in the end, biology pumps your blood, regulates your hormones, and fires your neurons. You have free will, but there are certain things that are biologically engineered by nature to make you happy and content. It's often wise to listen to them.
Does biology dictate, like the Taliban, that we can beat and rape women? Please choose your words more carefully, and do some reading on feminism.
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Charitable Works
Some Dads are not entirely self-centered. Go figure. Some Dads are even (gasp!) socially aware. If your Pop fits the profile, try a gift in his name to one of these: Habitat for Humanity Save the Afghan Children RAWA The Heifer Project Southern Poverty Law Center Adopt a Solar Family in Guatemala Palestinian Red Crescent Maen David Adom
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Re:Chop my hand off for Warez? This is insane!
As someone who left Islam, I know from experience that I am not dead
I talk to people, watch the BBC and then use Google to provide supporting documentation. If you listen to the BBC world service in the US you'll get the most uncesnored newsfeed in the world, heck they even called the Queen Mother racist on the same day she died.If you were in Afghanistan then you *would* be dead for converting away from Islam. Last time I checked the United States didn't have Sharia law, it has weak beauracratic Christian law imposed by heavy-handed oppressive cops (why the heck were tanks used against WTO protestors I mean *tanks* if Tianneman square happens in the United States it's OK but not in China, hypocrites). The US is far from perfect, but still it's far closer than a *lot* of countries, like China massacring Tibetan monks, jailing Falun Gong Tai Chi practitioners (WTF??) and Brazil torturing and killing poor people for being well, poor, and you thought medicaid was bad. Do you believe the women on rawa who get shot for walking without their husband beside them => were whores could have said, "But I'm not muslim" as a defense. The countries that implement Osama binLaden-type Islam and need to be nuked: Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, UAE. Read this
People converting from Islam were warned they will face the death penalty in an edict issued by the Mullah in January.
Now bear in mind that here in the UK the muslims of Bradford (where the Oldham riots took place) are calling for Sharia law. These are BAD arab-supported people and my gut tells me suicide bombing and sabotage of British military installations to be imminent, it's not that I know anything, it's damn common sense, just look at their website for God's sake, even the KKK isn't this ouvert, I'm ashamed that these people are in the UK. Have a *good* read of their entire website, listen to their audio, see their video, and read the fatwahs of this Sharia Court of the UK. Yes you heard me, these people have a Sharia Court in the UK. I've heard these people lecturing when they came to Ilford mosque, and their rhetoric is worse than Hitler's speeches. Muslims are free to enter churches and hindu temples, but when a non-muslim walks into a mosque especially on Friday I feel like someone's gonna kill me, I don't think even James Bond could infiltrate. Oh why why why does Islam always become like this when the propogation of the religion >80%?
Non-Muslims have no right to worship in open areas, and can only do so in places assigned to them, AFP quoted Wali as saying.
An order to Hindus to wear yellow colors was introduced a few years ago in Kandahar, the center of the Taliban's main power base in the south of the country, though it was only partially implemented, Wali said.
The dress code is aimed at non-Muslims, particularly Hindus and Sikhs, being spared when religious police squads order shops to close and herd people to mosques at prayer times, AFP cited local press reports as sayingWhich reminds me my neighbour from across teh street lived in Egypt 30 years ago. There was a crisis involving the Americans, I couldn't make out what it was because she broke down crying. All Americans and British were warned to leave the country, but the warning came too late. After Friday prayers, after a furious speech by the Imam, hundreds of muslims poured out of the mosque looking real pissed, a British man was in the wrong place at the wrong time, several muslims grabbed his right arm and leg, several more his left arm and leg. They pulled and tore him apart, severing his limbs. He died. She broke down crying again so it was difficult to make out, but it was something like because the mobs started looking for all the Brits and Americans so they broke into her flat with machettees looking for non-muslims to kill, but fortunately she had anticipated this and had sought refuge in her neighbour's flat. The next day she and her British husband left and claimed asylum in the UK.
More recently my friend whom I've known since I was 5 was supposed to go to India and Pakistan with his good good friend who was so nice to him called "Sheikh Omar" - yes that one, I know 2 people that went to the same school as Sheikh Omar. In India they were supposed to meet with my friend's Uncle, a Brigadier in the Indian army. There was a last minute cancellation and my friend couldn't make the flight. If he made that flight he'd be dead, and would be on the Daniel Pearl decapitation video (available for download on Kazaa). He's already informed the FBI and given a full report so this is on the up and up.
So the next time you suggest that I'm "just quoting from Google" you might want to think again. After all you have to know what you're looking for to find what you're looking for unless you try the "Are you feeling lucky?" button.
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/. know people that died in WTC, well I indirectly know the people that actually did it. Small world, eh? I think think this makes me qualified enough to comment on the evils of Islam's most popular implementation.As for who created these problems and the history of the Taliban, Mujihadeen, native American Indians, British, French and Spanish(wipe out the entire Mayan race WTF???) colonisation, yes it's an unfortunate truth that every colonial nation has committed heinous crimes against many others, except for Tibet, Hinduism and Buddhism, the three most dissed religions. Immigration has worked because the immigrants' religions were malleable, Hindus would go screw it and eat American beef steaks, Scottish immirants would forget haggis and eat Pizza Hut, multiculturalism was working so well... until Islam came along. In my office canteen a woman wearing a bhurka was sitting there saying I shouldn't eat pork, one of our managers replied, "If you don't like pork, the airport is that way". I'm glad to see the native culture is adapting to resist Islam in this way, the same way Picard treats a Klingon completely different than anyone else. Before the British divide and conquor techniques were used these types of militant muslims didn't exist. Ultimately Britain is to blame for WTC by segregating Hindus and Muslims in India by creating a feedback loop especially in the muslims by telling them they were "outnumbered and repressed". But then without Britain's colonistaion would America exist at all?
You speak about corporate rule, and yet the SEC knows that if it doesn't regulate them these corporates will destroy themselves, just look at Enron. Better the devil you know.
In WW2 Winston Churchill knew that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl harbour, but they didn't tell the US because they knew that the average US citizen doesn't know or care about anything unless NY gets nuked or something, so that's exactly what you got. This is why bad stuff keeps happening to the US, maybe you should have a complaints box at the white house which actually makes a difference, but then that's not possible because it'll never get more ratings than WWF. Don't believe me? Well OK where's the USS Nimitz right now? Where's the USS Kennedy? Where's the S. S. Essess? Which one's the odd one out? Heck I don't even know, the only time I'd notice a big international event is when somebody gets nuked or the world trade centre falls down, even now. This is why I'm pretty sure a lot more peope knew about WTC before it happened than are owning up now.
Do you know how many innocent afghani citizens were killed while "radicals" were purged? I'll bet you can give me exact figures for the number of Americans who were killed
About 150,000 Afghanis, a handful of Americans (I don't remember exactly). Although the Afghanis do remember the B-52s NOT bombing I think Gardez city (I can't remember - the one before the Taliban fell back to Kandahar). 150,000 people is nothing, 2,500,000 Hindus were massacred in Pakistan, DO YOU HEAR THAT IN THE NEWS??? Because muslims speak out due to their religion being strong like Scientology, whereas hindus and buddhists are quiet and shy and just want to make money. Look at the actual poor people in Cambodia in the profoundly tragic Discovery channel filmreal documentary The Land of the Wandering Souls. What the heck happened to protecting the weak?Well Islam is strong and that's why people don't want to hurt it. Loads of Hindus die, who cares? CNN is blaming the Indian government for the dead people in Gujurat. How did this start? 2000 muslims surrounded a train and burnt everybody alive. How dare the international media tries to blame the hindus? That's like the (RI|MP)AA making computers illegal and then being surprised when there's a civil war. Oh yeah geeks are sissies like hindus so if computers are made illegal geeks'll just rant on
/. and that'll be the end of it. If (RI|MP)AA kills RMS in an "accident" EFF will collapse, he's irreplacable, his moral viewpoint is unique. Only stupid people attack KlingonsJust leave Google alone and actually go talk to people, and maybe you will learn that Google doesn't have all the answers. Live a little, and you might discover that even you are not capable of being perfect, even though everyone tries (Americans, Canadians, and Muslims included).
I've proved my point, read the middle of this post. Heh maybe when this post is indexed by Google people will use *this* post as a reference. I'm not perfect, heck maybe if everything was perfect there would be stagnation like in the Japanese economy, 0% growth is nothing to be ashamed of in my book, but, well.... Maybe conflict and oppression is necessary otherwise we'd have unrealistic isolationism and decadence as in the movie Demolition Man. -
Re:Chop my hand off for Warez? This is insane!The theory needs tweaking to embrace multiculturalism: As always, Google has the answers, 1 and I'll quote from here
Jizyah Unbelievers are required to pay jizyah (poll tax) in lieu of security provided to them as the Dhimmis (Protected People) of an Islamic state, and their exemption from military service and payment of Zakah. Jizyah symbolizes the submission of the unbelievers to the suzerainty of Islam.
The implementation needs major overhaul: more from hereIn Islamic law, however, this is simply not the case. The life of a Muslim is considered superior to that of a non-Muslim, so much so that whilst a non-Muslim killing a Muslim would be executed, the reverse would not occur. [5] This is despite the fact that murder is normally considered a capital offence in Islam, with regular executions in most Muslim states. This inequity is also demonstrable in the blood rate paid to non-Muslims where murder or injury has occurred, which is half that of a Muslim. [6] Effectively, this ruling means that a Muslim need not fear the usual retribution for murder if he kills a non-Muslim. The law deliberately and consciously does not protect non-Muslims as it does Muslims. The position of Islamic law is not that human life is sacred, but that Muslim life is so.
and from here
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the Christian must gain at least another Christian witness even to match the testimony of the Muslim
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Obviously, this considerably disadvantages non-Muslims, and becomes of practical import when we consider the frequent charges of blasphemy used by Muslims against Christians in places like Pakistan, which usually have an ulterior motive (often personal or land disputes). Legal conditions such as these give unscrupulous Muslims the idea that it is 'open season' on minorities. A similar ruling endangers the inheritance rights of Christian wives of Muslims. [8] Again, this gives opportunity to dishonest Muslim relatives of a widow.
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The consequence of this is that in an Islamic State - specifically the Khilafah - non-Muslims should be denied Government posts, since the state exists for the Muslims, who alone are true citizens, whilst the non-Muslims are merely conquered residents, and the Jizyah signifies this
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As this state of things inevitably produce chaos and disorder, it is the duty of the true Muslims to exert their utmost to bring an end to their wicked rule and bring them under a righteous order
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AL-HEDAYA Vol. II (Hanafi Manual) ...capitation-tax is due only in lie of destruction... That is to say, is imposed as a return from the mercy and forbearance shown by the Muslims, and as a substitute for that destruction which is due upon infidels.
AL-HEDAYA Vol. II (Hanafi Manual)
[On infidels refusing either to embrace the faith, or to pay tribute, they may be attacked.]...approves of violence against infidels and those who leave Islam as their native or chosen religion. Fighting and killing are described as beloved activities. Apostacy is punished by death.
As for womens' rights see the videos of oppression here. Google came up with 90 other hits but I couldn't be bothered to go over them, I think this is enough. In summary the Koran is in need of some tweaking, and the Imams' biased teaching of it in corrupt gulf dictatorships desperately needs a complete overhaul. Religions were created to unite the tribes, today's multicultural (in the west) world hadn't been anticipated. Islam scales very badly compared to other religions, especially when some Imams have special agendas on creating hatred to cover up their paedophilia.In my book the people that pick up the Koran and say "Hey this is cool, there's some profound stuff in here" are okay, if they accept the minor tweaks by tacitly eating pork or drinking alcohol but if their country of origin is a Pakistani madrasa then he has the culture built not around the Koran but around other crap (see above) ingrained in him, the type of guy that believes he's the second coming or something. If your Muslim friends refuse to denounce AL-HEDAYA Vol. II (Hanafi Manual) then they must kill people that don't pay the Jizyah as these people are no longer entitled to protection in an Islamic state.
However just as the mafia doesn't represent every Italian, extremists don't represent Koranic Islam, they represent a very warped Islam (Pakistan madrasa edition) which I say is unreservedly evil. Many say that Islam is spreading, but here's the secret - it's not Koranic Islam that's spreading.
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document police brutality, sexual harassment
If you're gathering evidence that relies on tone of voice to document wrongdoing there's nothing like a tape recorder. And if you're gathering evidence that relies on gesture and facial expression to document wrongdoing there's nothing like a pinhole camera.
In fact, digital video cameras is how the human rights abuses of the Taliban were first documented by RAWA .
But pick your battles, carefully, kids. This isn't a contest to see who can be the most annoying to security people who are doing their jobs honorably.
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Re:Not to sound like an asshole, but...
Ever hear of RAWA? These people are trying to do exactly what you've said, but their numbers are quite few compared to the total population of women in Afghanistan. It's not like the majority wouldn't like to have more freedoms, it's just that they're too afraid to speak out.
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Re:*LOL*
Stating that you should be afraid of Muslims is a rasist comment
I never said that, and if anyone else here did then I missed it.
The afghan people, being bombed by the US, has had nothing to do with the attacks.
The bombing is precision bombing. Very few non-terrorist non-taliban getting hit. If there were some way to reduce the innocent civilian casualties to zero then that would be great. Unfortunately it's not possible. Considering the raw tonnage of bombs dropped it's pretty impressive the death toll is so low. Bin Laden has stated the terrorist attacks will continue. The USA has a right to defend itself.
The lies of the USA
Heh, pretty funny. I've been to that website before. The articles at Indimedia are < Ahem> slightly biased.
Lets see what the article you linked to says:
title "The Taliban Is GOOD - don't believe Western propaganda"
"The Soviet Invasion" What does any of that have to do with anything?
"the Taliban" It pretty much says the Taliban are good because things were bad before, from the war. There was no government. Now there is. Well, isn't that a ringing endorsement! It says the Taliban treat women well.
Ummm, what's all this nonsence I keep hearing about RAWA?
"forbids us to let our women walk around like prostitutes" If any woman who goes to college, gets a job in a store, or even shows here face in public is a prostitute deserving to be beaten, I think maybe you have a slightly different definition of prostitute than I do.
"Afghanistan does have a true religion, and that is Islam". Oh goody, they have the correct religion, everyone else has the wrong religion. They must be the good guys!
USA policy is freedom of religion. Islam is practiced within the USA.
Bin Laden: "maybe the United States is looking for a scapegoat"
Ummm, if Bin Laden isn't responsible then why the hell is he releasing video tapes to the press stating that freezing his money won't stop him, and that the terrorist attacks will continue?
"Sanctions...children died" Ah, yes. The Children. Well, I guess if you don't belive Bin Laden is responsible then you don't belive the Taliban knew anything about it either.
Why the hell are the Taliban siezing/attempting to tax the food aid shipments into Afghanistan?
"the statues" Yeah, I saw it on the news. Whatever. At least six freaking paragraphs about the statues.
"Afghanistan is not a terrorist state; we cannot even make a needle. How are we going to be a terrorist state? How are we going to be a
threat to the world?"
Oh, ok then. If Afghanistan can't even make a needle then I guess it's impossible to organize people to hijack planes and kill.
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Re:Beneath The Veil
If you are at all interested in this topic, there is a Website you should visit: The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan. These women are working, at great danger to themselves, to educate girls and other women. The punishment for what they are doing is death. In fact, the woman who founded the group several years ago was executed by the Taliban. The photographs are horrific; the childrens' drawings merely heartbreaking. The people of Afghanistan are truly crushed under the heels of the Taliban. Women suffer greatly, and as is often the case, when they suffer, children are also suffering. This issue has been pretty widely discussed in womens' groups in the U.S. Maybe it's time to give it a wider audience.
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Re:Cowards
Let my first say that my thoughts are by the victims and their families and I'm still shocked by this inhumanity which were done there yesterday.
But:
Sorry, you are talking out of your ass. Do you have any idea about the terror such a regime like the taliban does to their people?
They are the only one having weapons, they are the only one having cars. The country has essentially no infrastructure and no industry.
What should the people do?
And really, they would have much stronger reasons to get rid of their government than the fact that it lets terrorists in their country. Check out www.rawa.org
These taliban terrorize their own people in ways we cannot imagine (or have seen in history, try http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2001-05-22-tali banids.htm)
Go, read something about the history of of Afghanistan. They are in war since USSR occupied them in _1979_. 6 Million people (1/3 of the population) fled the country to Iran or Pakistan. About 2 Million still are in Iran(!) today. That people flee to Iran might give you a picture how nice it has to be to live in Afghanistan.
And let's not forget that the taliban were supported by the USA, back before 1998, but when their totalitarean, women-repressing politic was still crystal clear. Sultan Amir, Pakistans chief of secret service, trained by green berets in Fort Brag, is said to be the founder of the the taliban. Even bin laden is said to have been supported by the usa back in his fight against the USSR in afghanistan. -
It took this long?...
The Taliban are extremists in the extreme. Take everything you'd consider to be religious fanaticism and turn it up to 11, then you have a general idea of what the Taliban are like. First they kill women for exposing some skin; then of course there's the destruction of centuries-old relics that don't align with their religion. They shun all forms of entertainment as far as I can tell. Why it took them this long to ban the use of the Internet is beyond me.
For those who want a really good look at the atrocities of the Taliban, check out RAWA. Be careful what you click on, though; there are VERY graphic movie files and pictures on that site. Don't go there unless you have a strong stomach. We're not talking about annoying Congressmen here; these people are killers, plain and simple. -
Differences of opinion
Realistically now, take a look at how many movies were based on samples from books, some parts may have been used, but were the authors really slighted when the entire book wasn't used? Could have been a name or town, etc. Not everyone is James Patterson to command mega bucks for their work, so there are plenty of times plagurism occurs. Similarly situations arise where many would like to claim something as theirs when others may have thought of something similar and acted in better fashion or faster to make something out of it.
Wouldn't surprise me if Disney ripped things here and there, as long as the entire concept isn't ripped then legally they violated no laws. Personally when I think of Disney I think of small children or do good family doo hickey types while for Anime I tend to think of younger, hip, into fashion, skateboarder, biker, geek types. So the comparison to me personally is non existant. Don't buy Disney if you think it affects you, however aren't there better things to bitch about? -
Re:Microsoft & DiversityWould one not expect a deluge of men screaming how they can be leet hackers too? Apparently not. Now why do you think that is?
Perhaps it's because women have had the heel of man on their neck for 10,000 years of human culture and are a bit more sensitive to gender issues than men are. Not the other way around.
Plus, the Taliban are actively pulling women back into the stone age. You have to admit that women have a slightly different perspective on these issues.