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Re:Making fools of themselves
Browse means: 1. to eat, nibble at, or feed on (leaves, tender shoots, or other soft vegetation).
... so a browser would be a salad fork.
Oh by the way, a couple of days ago, my wife let me know that she had "Closed the internet" a few hours previously. I opened it again as soon as I found out. Sorry, I'll try to not let it happen again. -
Re:Now can we all please just shut up about it?
What do you mean by agnostic? I can only assume you mean that you don't understand the benefits of different operating systems. Unusual for slashdot reader!
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Re:Roy Schestowitz, take with prescribed NaCl
You're missing something from your argument. Namely, you're trying to prove the negative (Ad Hominem not meaning
...) by trying to show the positive (Ad Hominem can mean ...). For this to work, you'd either need to show that your source is absolutely authoritative and that the definition you gave is the sole definition.
Remember, your first comment on the subject began "ad hominem doesn't mean attacking the messenger..." And Wikipedia, dictionary.com, and pretty much any result you find on Google will confirm the original poster's definition of the term.
Unless you're trying to go meta by using a logical fallacy to distort the definition of a logical fallacy. In that vein, you might take a look at your source again...in the footnote below the passage you quoted, the author misspells the term in question (spelling it "ad kominem"). How can such a source be considered authoritative if they can't even be bothered to spell it correctly? -
Re:I personallyfact: 4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened
I think the dictionary is a bit more reliable as to the meaning of words than youtube is. Perhaps next time you might use uncyclopedia is the ultimate repository (or suppository) of truth and knowledge?[edit] Common Usages of Facts
Facts are commonly used in many ways, such as to signify mathematical dismissal, to spend time spreading bullshit, to get smart, to make it all up as you go along, to bungle something, or to act carefully or foolishly, as if full of cheese doodles. "The truth is more important than the facts." - Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959) So if you are a true person and you have to tell a fact, let out the truth, frankly speaking..[Citation not needed at all; thank you very much] -
Re:Measuring changes results
"Dickheads" will just leave their cellphones at home (or turn off their in-car cellphone for that matter) and continue to drive wrecklessly
Did you spell it "wrecklessly" ironically, or did you mean "recklessly"? 'Cause if you did that ironically it's hilarious. -
Re:Hmmm.Huh. Aardvark is actually very good, as it's aa, which is the convention the Linux kernel used after producing 0.99z. We'd still need an 'aa' word at the start, though, if we did that. Would Aambivalent Aardvark be considered cheating, though? Aaronic Aardvark would do the trick. They'll have to start using Welsh dictionaries for the release after that one, though
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Re:They DID NOT have slingshots.
One can be standing 30 yards away and still look someone or something directly in the eyes. Your vision must not be that great.
And here's a picture of just how close you can get. You can see right into the tiger's eyes, and that's from some crappy camera back a ways from the fence.
I'm not going to say or even imply (like you have) that I understand all wild animal behavior, but I understand cats and feral cats. All other observations of big cats (like tigers) seem to fit right in with my understanding -- except when they "play" you're not just going to suffer an annoying claw scrape.
You don't stare down ANY wild animal -- hell, any domestic animal -- unless you're willing to back it up with force. Since we don't have any evidence of the boys doing anything other than watching the tigers, I'm inclined to believe they simply stared right back. Unfortunately, Tatiana was not too amused that day and simply jumped across the moat, or up the wall.
My proof is that the tiger attacked them and only them
People who know things about animals. Even mentioning punishing the tiger shows that this is not you.
You know less than you think you do. My proof is your so-called "proof."
Your assertion about predators normally just picking people at random shows you have little understanding of just how a predator works. It doesn't charge in willy-nilly and maul the closest person. It selects its target(s), stalks, and picks them off. It's a much more efficient strategy than simply going after the closest, because that one could also be stronger and faster.
I am not sure about these boys' body sizes, but they didn't look fat. Likely, they were around 5'6" and extremely skinny, as most boys are around their ages. A tiger who has mauled someone before might not even think twice about human prey of this size.
We can go back and forth about what you and I *think*. But we know very little except this:
1) No evidence of taunting. No witnesses. No confessions. No weapons. No nothing.
2) Tatiana has mauled before.
3) The tiger enclosure was known by zoo officials to be too short and nothing was done.
4) The same zoo officials ignored the known defective cage that allowed the mauling a year prior.
5) Zoo employees, security, and officials did not respond right away, and even refused help at one point.
Be careful of unfounded accusations. Without proof, they are libel. If you are not an animal expert, and you weren't there, you should not be saying such things against the boys. I'm sure the zoo director makes a better lawsuit target for libel and slander, but you never know...
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Re:what he did/how he did it...lol that is a semantic argument if I've ever heard one kind of the old "chicken and egg" thing
they had the "fraudulous" (maybe http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fraudulent would be better) positions because of him. some of the "talking heads" have even blamed the global market "mini crash" on his trades
interesting logic though
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Re:"mindshare" is not a word.
Odd. It seems that Webster disagrees with you. I know, I know, it's not Oxford. Oxford doesn't have a free interface, and my copy is 30 years old. Still, Webster is generally considered to be a reasonable source for the English language as spoken in the U.S.
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would you settle for the term "world view"?Some philosophers use the term "world view" to describe religion as defined by thefreedictionary.com plus all other understandings of how the universe work scientifically proven.
Others use the term "religion" to describe the same thing, as I did above.
Dictionary.com's first definition of Dictionary is: 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. Note that a superhuman agency, ritual obervances, and moral codes are not required.
A set of beliefs about the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe that says "the universe exists without having been created by any supreme being, it has no purpose of existence, and it exists according to laws describable by science" is an atheistic religion according to this definition. -
Re:I hear...In the battle of available evidence, at least, I win.
Dang.
I will point out, though, that this one supports almost exactly what I wrote.
And besides, William Safire is like the Chuck Norris of words. -
Re:In archaic terms...
The written purpose of the 2nd amendment is the maintenence of the militia. On what basis do you argue that a militia should not have access to assault rifles?
It's not about "legitimate sporting purpose", self defense,criminals or anything else other than the arming of a citizen's military force. Naturally, if you are part of a well armed militia, self defense etc become issues that do not require debate. -
Re:It's not a churchA cult -is- a religion, even the dictionary says so. And a square is a rectangle, but that doesn't mean they are equivalent and interchangeable. Connotation doesn't enter into it; it's a matter of category. A cult is a *type of* religion (or religious sect), without exclusion to other types. Also, you've neglected to mention the time when Christianity was also a 'cult' by your own definition. They read the bible in church in the original language, despite the fact that none of the lower members understood it. Did they do anything to prevent others from reading the texts? It's not like it was a secret language, the original New Testament is mostly Greek if I recall correctly. So unless they kept those who knew Greek away from the texts or tried to prevent members from learning Greek (both highly doubtful), you're making a comparison where none exists.
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Re:It's not a church
To pray, Issac went to the fields, Christ went to a mountains, Matthew went to the closet, Peter went to the rooftops, etc. The very idea of people congregating to pray would have been decried by Jesus' disciples. Indeed, they did not pray even amongst themselves, while they were together, instead keeping their prayers to themselves, not unlike eastern meditation. The purpose of being together was for discussion on the things discovered during prayer.
So you're saying we should not start out church meetings with a prayer? We are encouraged to pray privately and as families. It was not so odd as you claim to be seen in prayer at the time of Christ:
- During the Sermon on the Mount he gave an example prayer
- In James we are told that if we are sick we should call for the elders of the church to pray over us, i.e. as a group
- When Christ went up into the Mount of Transfiguration to pray, he brought along Peter, James, and John, so he must not have minded praying with the two of them there
- When Christ prayed at Gethsemane he was at least close enough for the Twelve to hear him and record his words
- We read of a multitude of Jews praying outside the temple in Luke
- Christ prayed at his baptism in full view of the public, who saw the dove descend and heard God's voice from heaven.
- When choosing the replacement for Judas Iscariot, the Eleven prayed together to determine which of the two they had chosen should be named an apostle.
- Peter and John prayed with an assembly gathered to hear them.
- The apostles fasted and prayed together before sending Barnabas and Saul (Paul) to teach.
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I trust that is enough examples?
On a slightly related note, what gives you the idea the LDS Church congregates in order to pray? Prayer is not the purpose of our meetings, instead we gather to learn from the scriptures. Prayer is almost incidental to that activity. We are taught that we must pray always, in all places.Also, the idea of giving a standardized percent of your income, especially to religious leaders, would have made Christ's stomach turn... He followed the Pharisees laws, and encouraged his followers to do the same, but he would have much preferred that you helped the poor with your money... Instead, leadership of churches since his time have taken accounts of Jesus's giving of tithing, and twisted his words, into supporting a tithe.
The standardized percent used for tithing in modern times is based solely on modern revelation (see D&C 119:3-5), however the concept of tithing has been around since the times of Adam (Cain and Abel offered up a portion of the fruits of their labors to the Lord), and Malachi warned the Jews that they had robbed God by not paying their tithes. The money is not given to religious leaders, as you claim; none of the leaders of the LDS Church are compensated for their service (other than a few who volunteer full-time, and are given a small stipend with which they can pay their bills). Tithing money goes exclusively toward the maintenance and construction of church buildings. I do not think Christ would be appalled by it as you claim.
The word "tithing" itself means "one-tenth" (see here), so it is not at all surprising that 10% should be the percentage assigned.I think you, and your fellow LDS churchgoers know less of Christ's
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Re:Why not declare war on religion in general?Mormons also have some weird beliefs. I've heard second-hand (yeah, like that's reliable) that in the highest levels of the church you may expect to be able to create your own planet in the after-life, becoming quite like God. We are taught that the purpose of this life is for us to become like God. (i.e. God has a body, so we came to earth to get a body. God is perfect, we came to earth to learn to be perfect, though none of us actually achieve that while alive.) The New Testament (among other scriptures) teaches us that we are heirs of God and joint-heirs of Christ - meaning, of course, that what Christ receives, we can receive as well if we live worthily. Several passages in the Doctrine and Covenants teach that we will become like God, that will may have "an increase" (in the official LDS Spanish translation it uses the word "progeny"; sorry, no link).
That is official doctrine. There is no official planet-creation doctrine; take from what I have said what you will. Also... I think creating a planet does sound rather fun ;) -
Re:It's not a churchMy dictinary says:
cult-noun
It's pretty pointless arguing the meanings of words when you can look the damned things up. I say Scientology is NOT a cult because it's NOT a religion. Bhuddism is a religion, Scientology is a con game. Christianity started out as a cult (see definition #6) but became a mainstream religion, even bigger than the religion (Judism) that spawned it..
1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
7. the members of such a religion or sect.
8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.
-adjective 9. of or pertaining to a cult.
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Re:It's not a church
So you get to make up your own definition now, eh?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cult
A cult -is- a religion, even the dictionary says so. It's on the 'connotations' that people have that make it any different than religion, and those vary according to who you talk to.
Also, you've neglected to mention the time when Christianity was also a 'cult' by your own definition. They read the bible in church in the original language, despite the fact that none of the lower members understood it. They definitely attacked all other beliefs, locked people up, used any possible means, etc. -
Re:Wrong wrong wrong wrong
>If it doesn't matter, then why use the wrong term?
> It's because it DOES matter
No, it's because the word "steal" carries enough meaning to fit with what is being talked about.
(from another post)
From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/steal
This definition doesn't explicitly say that stealing removes an object from the owner's use, merely that you took something without permission.
(ie, making a copy is taking a copy, and if you were not authorized to make that copy you are stealing it)
1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force
This definition fits nicely with the vernacular usage that you're decrying
2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
>associating something innocuous, copyright infringement, with something we all despise: theft.
Copyright infringement is not innocuous as far as I've ever heard... multimillion dollar lawsuits are fought over years when one company infringes another's copyrights. It's serious business
We don't all despise theft either: If I'm starving, I feel just fine stealing bread. Stealing a candy bar from a billionaire just doesn't compare to stealing one from a child.
Let the word stand, and associate what they're doing: extortion, destroying people entire lives over a $1.99 song, etc. -
Re:Wrong wrong wrong wrong
We are not lawyers in court or writing court documents, the word steal has multiple meanings, and by context you can work out the point of the conversation:
From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/steal
This definition doesn't explicitly say that stealing removes an object from the owner's use, merely that you took something without permission.
(ie, making a copy is taking a copy, and if you were not authorized to make that copy you are stealing it)
>1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force
This definition fits nicely with the vernacular usage that you're decrying
>2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
The difference is that the interstate commerce thing sounds ridiculous to "normal" people that are just trying to exchange ideas.
When someone else gets something for free that you had to pay for, that fits enough of the definition of theft for people to be able to grasp onto.
By nitpicking about specific terms, you detract from the discussion about what really matters, and the real argument suffers: Sure RIAA has a right to investigate these things, but no cheating guys... (sorry if my use of the word cheating collides with a usage of the word you don't approve of) They shouldn't have the right to destroy a person's life with just an accusation that has no real basis. They should not be allowed to extort money from you simply because you can't afford to defend yourself. (The burden's are well beyond proportion to the alleged "crime" or tort)
Also, when you focus on the "theft" definition, you reduce the problem to one of two competing concerns:
1. Rich artists making millions off of presumably little work, so it's OK to "take from" them without compensation
2. Empathy with "If I did a song I'd want to get paid for it"
Neither of them deals with the inherent unfairness of the copyright system, nor with RIAA's evil methods of dealing with it.
Once people get used to "Corporations are abusing unfair laws and abusing the court system in order to destroy people just like you", the nuances of terminology make much more sense to talk about. -
Re:A user fee is not a taxAccording to the dictionary, if the government gets it it's a tax. A "user fee" is a particular type of tax.
tax
/tæks/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[taks] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun 1. a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.
2. a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand.
-verb (used with object) 3. (of a government) a. to demand a tax from (a person, business, etc.).
b. to demand a tax in consideration of the possession or occurrence of (income, goods, sales, etc.), usually in proportion to the value of money involved.
4. to lay a burden on; make serious demands on: to tax one's resources.
5. to take to task; censure; reprove; accuse: to tax one with laziness.
6. Informal. to charge: What did he tax you for that?
7. Archaic. to estimate or determine the amount or value of.
-verb (used without object) 8. to levy taxes.
[Origin: 1250-1300; (v.) ME taxen -
Re:The movie version is much better
Glutinous had me scratching my head until I figured out it was a misspelling. Didn't know being extra sticky was a sin...
:P (they're pronounced quite differently which honestly made it not immediately apparent to me) -
Re:Ah, but...You should have used your own "reference.com" technique to continue your research and confirm what I said. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=day
you took a simple joke and imagined yourself wiser.
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Re:Ah, but...
Are easily distracted by that which does not apply to you?
Fact or faith:
Will there be a sunrise for you tomorrow?
Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=faith (just read the first two).
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Re:Ah, but...
Why do you go about pretending to redefine 'faith'?
Even the first two definitions thereof at Dictionary.com have no mention of a Deity. Check it out:
- confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
- belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
Your use of the word assumption is but #5: arrogance; presumption".
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Re:Ah, but...
Why do you go about pretending to redefine 'faith'?
Even the first two definitions thereof at Dictionary.com have no mention of a Deity. Check it out:
- confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
- belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
Your use of the word assumption is but #5: arrogance; presumption".
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Re:Ah, but...
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=tomorrow&x=0&y=0
Stop making up your own definitions. What are you, a Democrat?
You took an easy question, posed in the simplest vernacular, and imagined yourself wise.
Here's the question again, for your sake:
Is it fact or faith that the Sun will rise on/for you tomorrow?
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Re:Seriously
note that we have no evidence that there is a general purpose intent to lie, only a case where communication was used and observed to score better in one mode than another
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive
... 2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression ... 3. an inaccurate or false statement ... Dictionary.comThere's more definitions, but this activity fits two of the top three (actually, at least four of the top seven) definitions of the word!
Since the first two of the definitions you cite require intent as part of the definition, and since I was discussing "intent to lie", that's an odd claim. Except in the somewhat metaphorical use like "That thermometer lies when it says it's 37 degrees out.", lying is an action of intent, so you must demonstrate, not define away, the intent component.
And, note particularly, that intent to lie is not intent to have the end result. If I give you two buttons and I say, "press one of these two buttons to do something (I won't tell you what) and then seek the goal and score yourself, keeping track of which button to press", you may well learn to press the buttons but that doesn't mean you know what you're causing, other than a higher score. Do we know the program is modeling anything else besides its food score? Its own quality of life, for example? Much less the quality of life of its compatriots? Even if it thinks letting something go to its death is going to give it a lower score, is that the extent of what it knows about death? Or has it seen Bambi? I think the bar for lying is higher than you're setting it.
There are probably many animals that know to do actions that have the effect of misleading, and yet we wouldn't say such animals are liars unless they have the cognitive modeling capability to understand the difference. Even the instructions to a child or to the impaired given in court to someone who will testify (at least on the TV shows I've seen, which I must assume mirror reality) seem to focus on the question of only allowing someone to testify as to the truth of something if they can model what it is to lie. If they can't form the difference between truth and a lie, the information cannot be taken as an assertion of truth. It's just a data point.
There's an excellent illustration of some of these issues in the book Ender's Game. Orson Scott Card explores a lot of strategies and meta-strategies in there, and there's a notable one at one point where this comes into play clearly. I don't want to spoil anything by saying more about that book, which is a fun read. You'll know it when you see it.
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Re:Seriouslynote that we have no evidence that there is a general purpose intent to lie, only a case where communication was used and observed to score better in one mode than another
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. 2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one. 3. an inaccurate or false statement. ("lie." Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. 19 Jan. 2008. <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie>.)
There's more definitions, but this activity fits two of the top three (actually, at least four of the top seven) definitions of the word!
Of course if you ask if the device knows that it is telling an untruth, the answer is Mu. It cannot know unless it has been programmed to know. Is the veracity of the statement one of the scoring criteria for communications? Now THAT would be interesting.
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Re:EFF invented "CyberLaw"
Do dictionary entries count?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cyberlaw
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Re:Ah, but...
Creationism and Evolution are not mutually exclusive.
Yes they are, at least for the standard dictionary definition of creationism:
creationism:
1. the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.
2. the doctrine that the true story of the creation of the universe is as it is recounted in the Bible, esp. in the first chapter of Genesis.Keep in mind, "Creationism" != "Religious faith". There are plenty of people who believe in God and who accept the scientific theory of evolution. But they are not creationists.
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Re:They are right
That depends on your definition. (see #7)
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Re:Another Year of Offensive Darwin Awards
you're very sure of yourself, but, perhaps instead of assuming you know what you're talking about, you should put some weight into the thoughts of others, and do some research, as well.
from a dictionary, it appears you're cherry picking:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism
it's also rather evident your 'definition' which supposedly "fact" is blatantly wrong. you might define it like that, but you shouldn't expect anyone else to understand you when you try to use words in your own special way. several of the dictionaries seem to disagree on the extent to which atheism extends its negativity, but wikipedia should be of help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Definitions_and_distinctions
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Re:Creationism in Europe?
That's an interesting definition of creationism you're using. It's not most people's, nor does it fit with the dictionary:
creationism:
1. the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.
2. the doctrine that the true story of the creation of the universe is as it is recounted in the Bible, esp. in the first chapter of Genesis.It sounds like you're thinking of theistic evolution, which is different from creationism.
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Re:Evolution is a theory too
Words, eh! Who'd have though they could have more than one meaning:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=theory
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English: not just for Lit. majors.
It should be noted that the implication that leaning over the table blocks a projection from above is spurious
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Re:Cloning in nature
You're claiming that "clone" is a homophone and I'm confusing two words with entirely different meanings because they sound the same. Or if not homophones, that I'm at least confusing different definitions of the same word. For your example of "speaker," Dictionary.com lists four definitions, and you make reference to two of the different meanings given there in your example.
However, you have entirely misapplied this in my case. I am using exactly the same, precisely defined, scientific definition of the word "clone," and you are wrong in claiming I'm trying to "compare scientific things based on linguistics." I'm comparing scientific things based upon science, and using the accurate scientific word for both things used with the exact same definition.
I'm quite curious what it is that you think "clone" means. Here are some examples of what it actually means. Note that they all apply to both the cloned animal and apple case.
From Dictionary.com: "a cell, cell product, or organism that is genetically identical to the unit or individual from which it was derived."
From Wikipedia: "In horticulture and biology, any organism whose genetic information is identical to that of a 'mother organism' from which it was created."
From Merriam Webster: "the aggregate of genetically identical cells or organisms asexually produced by a single progenitor cell or organism"
From University of Texas' Life Sciences Dictionary: "A population of cells all descended from a single cell."
From McGraw-Hill's Access Science: "Cloning
The asexual creation of a genetic copy, a capability possessed by plants but not by most animals. Thus, plants generate genetic copies spontaneously, and rooting "cuttings" is widely used by horticulturists to propagate millions of clones annually. In animals, only some lower invertebrates can be cloned by "cutting"; for example, earthworms when bisected will regenerate the missing half, resulting in two whole, genetically identical individuals. However, asexual reproduction and cloning do not normally occur in vertebrates except for the special case of identical twinning. This is despite the fact that individual cells, called blastomeres, within the very early embryo are totipotent; that is, each is capable, if evaluated on its own, of developing into a viable term pregnancy and infant."
I see in the Access Science entry, and other places, what I think is confusing you: there certainly are many different ways cloning can occur. That doesn't mean I'm using the word wrong. It's as if I said that both Bill Clinton and Pervez Musharraf became leaders of their countries, and you said I'm wrong because they came to power in different ways. While you're right there are distinctions to be made in different ways of "becoming leaders," and different methods of making "clones," I am entirely correct in calling both animal and plant clones "clones," just as I'm entirely correct in calling both Clinton and Musharraf "leaders." And it's the same definition of "clone" and "leader." The ability to draw further distinctions does not mean they don't both meet the same greater definition. You are trying to draw semantic distinctions that do not exist.
I don't even know what word you're looking for. "Artificial Cloning" doesn't apply, because they're both artificial: those Apple trees do not make natural clones, they are grafted artificially by people, usually onto foreign rootstock. Apples have their own natural method of procreation, which is trees sprouting from the seeds inside Apples, that we bypass entirely to create the artificial man-made c -
Re:Cloning in nature
You're claiming that "clone" is a homophone and I'm confusing two words with entirely different meanings because they sound the same. Or if not homophones, that I'm at least confusing different definitions of the same word. For your example of "speaker," Dictionary.com lists four definitions, and you make reference to two of the different meanings given there in your example.
However, you have entirely misapplied this in my case. I am using exactly the same, precisely defined, scientific definition of the word "clone," and you are wrong in claiming I'm trying to "compare scientific things based on linguistics." I'm comparing scientific things based upon science, and using the accurate scientific word for both things used with the exact same definition.
I'm quite curious what it is that you think "clone" means. Here are some examples of what it actually means. Note that they all apply to both the cloned animal and apple case.
From Dictionary.com: "a cell, cell product, or organism that is genetically identical to the unit or individual from which it was derived."
From Wikipedia: "In horticulture and biology, any organism whose genetic information is identical to that of a 'mother organism' from which it was created."
From Merriam Webster: "the aggregate of genetically identical cells or organisms asexually produced by a single progenitor cell or organism"
From University of Texas' Life Sciences Dictionary: "A population of cells all descended from a single cell."
From McGraw-Hill's Access Science: "Cloning
The asexual creation of a genetic copy, a capability possessed by plants but not by most animals. Thus, plants generate genetic copies spontaneously, and rooting "cuttings" is widely used by horticulturists to propagate millions of clones annually. In animals, only some lower invertebrates can be cloned by "cutting"; for example, earthworms when bisected will regenerate the missing half, resulting in two whole, genetically identical individuals. However, asexual reproduction and cloning do not normally occur in vertebrates except for the special case of identical twinning. This is despite the fact that individual cells, called blastomeres, within the very early embryo are totipotent; that is, each is capable, if evaluated on its own, of developing into a viable term pregnancy and infant."
I see in the Access Science entry, and other places, what I think is confusing you: there certainly are many different ways cloning can occur. That doesn't mean I'm using the word wrong. It's as if I said that both Bill Clinton and Pervez Musharraf became leaders of their countries, and you said I'm wrong because they came to power in different ways. While you're right there are distinctions to be made in different ways of "becoming leaders," and different methods of making "clones," I am entirely correct in calling both animal and plant clones "clones," just as I'm entirely correct in calling both Clinton and Musharraf "leaders." And it's the same definition of "clone" and "leader." The ability to draw further distinctions does not mean they don't both meet the same greater definition. You are trying to draw semantic distinctions that do not exist.
I don't even know what word you're looking for. "Artificial Cloning" doesn't apply, because they're both artificial: those Apple trees do not make natural clones, they are grafted artificially by people, usually onto foreign rootstock. Apples have their own natural method of procreation, which is trees sprouting from the seeds inside Apples, that we bypass entirely to create the artificial man-made c -
Irony
I see this got tagged 'this is not irony'... Actually, it's the very definition of irony.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected
Sheep, despite being the first mammals (not animals, apparently) cloned, were not included on the 'safe' list. This is ironic since you would expect that the first animals would have had more time to be studied, and therefore more should be known about them... Yet they didn't get studied enough yet.
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Re:ResignWow, what a concept. Could you imagine the president of the most powerful nation in the world not actually being smart enough for the position?
...er...wait a sec....I'll take your comment as the joke it sounds like however to be fair [1] many Presidents have graduated from prestigious schools and Bush is no exception. Just from Harvard alone we have: "Seven Presidents of the United States have graduated from Harvard University. These include John Adams, John Quincy Adams, George W. Bush, Rutherford B. Hayes, John F. Kennedy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Theodore Roosevelt. Bush and Hayes graduated from Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School, respectively, while the others graduated from Harvard College. Some fifty Nobel Prize winners have been associated with the University." So although Bush may seem stupid (and maybe he finished at the bottom of his class) he still graduated from the same school as Kennedy and other notable Presidents. Not everyone is good at public speaking either but that doesn't mean they are stupid; it does however mean they are easy targets for those who are ignorant and like making fun of people like they are in junior high school again.
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Re:I am Netflix's complete lack of selection.On an unrelated grammatical note, should that be Netflix' or Netflix's? According to Dictionary.com, it should be "Netflix's" (as you used it).
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Re:For many, this could be a dream come trueThere's a device implanted in my left eye that replaces the focusing lens. From the dictionary:
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My eye's focusing muscles operate the device, and like the natural lens, I don't have to even think about it. Like a young person's lens (which gets too stiff for the muscles to operate in middle age) all I have to do to focus is look at something. At age 55 I don't even need reading glasses!
cyborg /sabrg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sahy-bawrg] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun a person whose physiological functioning is aided by or dependent upon a mechanical or electronic device.
[Origin: 1960-65; cyb(ernetic) org(anism)]
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Re:Extreme mooning?IANAL. Now, with that out of the way...
... it could be argued that hotlinking is not distribution or any kind of copyright violation.
I used to feel exactly the same way. But I later realized that there is another exclusive right that copyright holders are granted, the right to make derivative works, which might come into play.
If the page that is hotlinking to the image can be considered to be a derivative work of another page, or of the photo, then it could still be copyright infringement. Here is the definition of a derivative work, from 17 USC Sec. 101:A "derivative work" is a work based upon one or more
preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement,
dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound
recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any
other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or
adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations,
elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent
an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work".
Hotlinking to a photo could easily be considered a form of "recasting" that photo (or the original page containing the photo, which is also going to be copyrighted), and thus a derivative work.
See the definitions of recast. One that applies here is:To set down or present (ideas, for example) in a new or different arrangement
Seems to fit.
Of course, this doesn't mean that all instances of hotlinking would be considered copyright infringement. In some instances, it could also be considered a fair use, depending on the circumstances surrounding the use. -
From the goodness of Yahoo's heart? Yahoo has a..?
I'm guessing this is not connected with helping the user. Maybe they want to organize your email messages so that they can calculate the conversations more efficiently and serve ads that are more effective.
Yahoo played so many tricks that I learned to stay away from it; I haven't seen Yahoo in years.
Now I just visited the Yahoo web site. As I write this it says, "Pulse - What Yahoos Are Into". That's typical of Yahoo's respect for it's customers. A "yahoo" is "an uncultivated or boorish person". -
Re:Your rights do not apply at School
I don't know where you got that idea. From dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/citizen
citizen
1. a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection (distinguished from alien).
2. an inhabitant of a city or town, esp. one entitled to its privileges or franchises.
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take it easy on the grammar
You can perfectly well have an amount of something but refer to the amount of its unit: four inches, for example, where the amount is four and the unit is inches. In this case, one might not have a respectable amount of inches.
You can refer to http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=amount for the definition of amount. Just think: one potato is a small amount (or number, see discussion at dictionary.com) of potatoes. The amount is one, the unit is potatoes. A farm can have a respectable amount of acres, though "acreage" might be more acceptable to the prescriptivist crowd. Not so weird though, at least to me.
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English Lesson
Next-gen is a perfectly legitimate term to describe the PS3 and 360; it distinguishes them from the Wii and PS2, which are consoles that are still viable development platforms, but are not in the same league as the 360/PS3 in terms of graphical power.
I think your English skills are a bit lacking. Let me help you with this:
dictionary.com: generation
/dnren/
1. the entire body of individuals born and living at about the same time: the postwar generation.PS3, 360 and Wii are part of the same console generation.
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Re:Like it matters
If these so-called invisible rootkits are so effective, why aren't we seeing them everywhere? Huh?
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Re:Eulogising?
How about you list the other definitions of deprecate: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deprecate The word has clearly undergone a change in the last century, as words generally like to do. Additionally, technical fields, or any fields in general, tend to have their own vocabulary apart from that of the standard language. It's obviously not kosher to use these vocabulary items (jargon) outside the context of that field, but it is not uncommon for them to "cross over" and become part of the standard language.
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Re:Who uses support?
Microsoft could really care less about the average home user.
It is "couldn't care less". The point of this expression is "I do not care at all, so I cannot care less, because there is no such thing as negative care"
You essentially said "Microsoft cares about average home user and is threatening to care less." Which, I believe, is not what you tried to say.Faithfully yours, semantics Nazi
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Re:I was with you until "gay".
(Or joyousness, if being quaint...)
Which is actually its original meaning, which is why the word has changed ;) Apparently it is from Middle English "gai" meaning "lighthearted or brightly coloured" (source)
That's why you get lots of kids at school sniggering when old stories are read: they mention being "happy and gay" using the old meaning of "happy and joyous" rather than being "happy and homosexual".