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DESCRIPTION OF THE HAZARD: Remington has determined that some Model 700 and Model Seven rifles with XMP triggers could, under certain circumstances, unintentionally discharge.

I started a corporation to sell guns and our company's gun occasionally goes off without you pulling the trigger. If a bullet hits a person, am I responsible for their death?

So a moose is quite harmless but an Elk is not?

Elk taste yummy. Ask to moose and bear meat . . . ? Well, as a friend of mine quipped, "It's tastes OK, if you don't mind the taste of smelly gym socks."

Darwin has taught elk to stay away from people . . . because they taste yummy! If you think an elk is just going to trot up to you to say, "Hello!" . . . well then, ich glaube, es knuscht mich ein Elch"

If you bag a big elk . . . you had better have a good sized freezer . . . and you will have enough meet to last you until summer!

Is that your message?

No, that's your message. I didn't write anything like that. The first thing hunters learn, is to treat their firearms with respect. The second thing is, to treat wild animals with respect.

Take a trot out your front door and talk to some elk hunters, and ask, "Y'all been having problems with too many elk coming up to you . . . ?

Can recommend a "tactical shotgun"

http://www.remington.com/produ...

http://www.mossberg.com/produc...

But if was just me . . . and a bear . . . this is would I would like to have:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...

However, I would not recommend this for ordinary folks. This is a serious firearm.

Shooting a polar bear with with pellet ammunition sounds retarded to me.

You misspelled slug

. Try googling on "rat shot" or "bird shot", if those the varmints that you are hunting.

That's not possible. Someone must be lying. I know this because California banned all those evil high powered rifles.

They banned the evil assault rifles. The evil high-powered tactical sniper rifles (that can shoot through bulletproof vests like knife through butter, and allow accurate shoots at hapless victims at distances as far as a mile away!) are still out there. But worry not, this will eventually be fixed, too.

Is that a new kind of shaver?

I think that he's referring to the Remington Model 7600 pump-action rifle. It was called the Model 760 until 1981.

This model is very popular because it can be stored in the relatively safe Condition 3 (hammer down, full magazine, empty chamber), yet brought to Condition 0 (ready to fire) with one pump.

On the other hand, I think that guards at the kind of checkpoint that the AFGE (the TSA employees' union) envisions would be using auto/semi-auto carbines or SMGs, instead of a rifle more suited to deer-hunting.

Have you ever been target shooting? Having to reload a handgun after every three rounds would be a significant inconvenience, for no actual benefit. That's not to say that some sort of limit on high-capacity magazines may not have some effect, but 3 is probably going a bit far.

Also, shotguns are only limited to three rounds when used for hunting or trap/skeet competitions. You can easily find models that hold 7 rounds, e.g.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

This rifle is but one example of the hundreds that have been manufactured in .308 Winchester for 60 years now. If you read the article, you'll see that the .308 cartridge was designed in 1952 AND IS THE BASIS FOR THE MILITARY CARTRIDGE. It is wildly popular in short-action rifles for hunting large game. It is typically loaded to slightly lower muzzle energies than the longer .30-06, but is usually cheaper, and as 'short' cartridge it allows for faster follow-up shots if needed. (It also is supposedly slightly more accurate because of its length).

Don't spout rhetoric; learn the facts.

Remington 1100 Tactical.

Frankly, the idea that only cops should have guns because they are trained is bull. Most citizens who have been raised around guns are going to be a better shot and better handling of firearms than these types.

No argument there. I've known a fair amount of cops that can't hit the broad side of a barn.

As for how this relates to why some areas are moving away from 9mm, its because they can't trust their cops to get a clean shot. If you can't get a clean shot, then 9 might not be enough. Same for 45, but its more likely to be.

Even if you practice every single day I don't think you can be assured that you'll get a clean shot. With a clean shot you could kill an aggressor with a .22 but that doesn't mean that you want to carry one around. I'm sure you have a better chance than the aforementioned cop who draws his gun once a year when it's time to re-qualify but it still isn't a sure thing and your ultimate success or failure may depend as much on luck as it does on skill.

About good JHP, there really is a difference between brands. "Good JHP" is very expensive, and many don't use it. They go for the cheap stuff because they think JHP is JHP.

I would hope that cops aren't using the cheap stuff. I do know my fair share of civilians that carry the cheap crap. Pretty stupid place to try and save money. It's your life we are talking about after all. Personally I carry golden sabers. I replace them every twelve months and when doing so fire off at least a hundred rounds of the new batch. If I have a jam or malfunction then I'm starting over from scratch after I identify the problem. I had to experiment with several different types of JHP before I found the most reliable one. It was expensive, but it's my life, not gonna cut corners.

This tool is excellent at removing gang members from your walls, as long as it is used in the opposite direction of the wall.

May I suggest:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/
http://www.colt.com/
http://www.remington.com/
http://www.glock.com/
http://www.sigsauer.com/ (personal favorite!)
http://www.hk-usa.com/
http://www.uzi.com/

But out on the range, thats a different story. It weighs 1/3 of my old browning, but kicks about 5x more. I only get off about 15 shots before I'm done and feeling like I went 3 rounds with Tyson.

But I didn't buy it for the range :)

I should point out that for sufficiently violent values of "fighting back" it *does* solve the problem of bullies. I'll recommend a Serbu Super Shorty and Remington Buckhammers... and a Breachersgrip if you love your metacarpals. (Note that this requires both a concealed weapon permit and a separate permit for owning the NFA weapon!)

Why? Beating the shit out of someone is considered a "forcible felony" and can result in permanent injury or death. It's not my place to decide that somebody should die for such a thing, but it's not my place to die for such a thing either.

We have enough problems keeping the native species alive.

While this is true of some species, others are doing quite well.

Remington 870

No, this the ultimate self defense:
http://www.redsoldier.com/
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/default.asp
http://www.remington.com/default
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/

Nah, your packets are just being blocked by a Remington firewall.

The sledge hammer is the linux style solution. More work than is needed, what you need is user convience. Sledgehammers will tire you out, you don't want to do that all day long. What you need is the Remington 870 pump action shotgun. Available in assorted sizes and gauges, the 870 can erase as many as 5 hard drives in a single loading. The 870 comes in 12 gauge, 28 inch barrel for those SCSI drives, down to a .410 shotgun for those hard to wipe flash drives.

For maximum assurance of data erasure, the 870 cannot be beaten. Be sure to use number 3 shot or larger. Also available in left handed.

The Remington Gauge system follows the approved national standard, to avoid vendor lock-in. Shells from all competitors will function, though Remington shells are recommended for best preformance. Never doubt if your data was securely erased or not ever again! Come to Remington Country.

The sledge hammer is the linux style solution. More work than is needed, what you need is user convience. Sledgehammers will tire you out, you don't want to do that all day long. What you need is the Remington 870 pump action shotgun. Available in assorted sizes and gauges, the 870 can erase as many as 5 hard drives in a single loading. The 870 comes in 12 gauge, 28 inch barrel for those SCSI drives, down to a .410 shotgun for those hard to wipe flash drives.

For maximum assurance of data erasure, the 870 cannot be beaten. Be sure to use number 3 shot or larger. Also available in left handed.

The Remington Gauge system follows the approved national standard, to avoid vendor lock-in. Shells from all competitors will function, though Remington shells are recommended for best preformance. Never doubt if your data was securely erased or not ever again! Come to Remington Country.

In related news, Remington has announced that it will invest in IT, specializing in Internet security systems. They have already released a number of RFC-1149 compliant firewall appliances.

In related news, Remington has announced that it will invest in IT, specializing in Internet security systems. They have already released a number of RFC-1149 compliant firewall appliances.

A quality security system certainly wouldn't hurt either.

First point: the 1994 "ban" didn't do anything. Since there's no "core technical difference" between a standard semi-auto hunting rifle like this Remington:

http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/7400w d.htm

and this "AR Pattern" rifle available in one of the *weaker* calibers Remington supports on the 7400 (the 308 Nato):

http://armalite.com/sales/catalog/rifles/ar10b.htm

The Remington is pictured with a 5rd magazine but 10rd that poke out of the bottom of the gun are available now and with the ban on 10+ magazines gone, they'll be available there soon.

Both guns are semi-auto, magazine fed. After midnight tonight, it will be possible to sell either with such accessories as bayonette lugs, flash dohickey on the end of the barrel, etc...none of which affect lethality.

Because the guns that "look scary" aren't technically different from those that look more "sporting" like that Remington (one of many examples I could show), back in '94 Congress banned certain "evil features" that were purely cosmetic, in an attempt to home in on the "evil looking guns" and leave the deer rifles alone.

Which made the law arbitrary and stupid, and is what's really causing it's death tonight.

Which leaves two questions:

1) Why would anybody want a "military pattern rifle" in the first place?

A: first, parts are widespread and cheap. They usually share at least some components and accessories with the full-auto military versions which are banned; as long as the parts in question don't add full-auto capability, they're legal.

Second, when rifles are engineered to be able to handle full-auto stresses and battlefield conditions via rigorous testing, they're tough as nails. Once the full-auto capability is stripped for the civilian market, they're even tougher as they don't need to cope with that. (Full-auto fire can wear out a barrel in just a few hundred shots in some cases, which is why real military machine gunners keep extra barrels with them for quick swaps.)

Why have a tough gun?

Because competitive shooters must practice a lot - practice levels beyond what hunting rifles can cope with. The vast majority of full-power rifle competition happens not with deer rifles or even high-accuracy target rifles, but with AR-pattern critters distantly related to the US military M16 family, hot-rodded for accuracy.

The Remington probably has a total lifespan of a couple thousand rounds. Less in the hotter calibers like 30-06 or 270Winchester.

AR-pattern rifle owners can sign up for a three-day class in riflework by nationally known instructors such as John Farnham, and shoot 1500 rounds in a three day weekend...and the gun will *probably* hold up. He has loaner spares just in case they don't, as that's one hell of a duty cycle...one that no "pure civilian origin" rifle could even hope to survive.

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Which leaves the other, more controversial issue: the full-capacity magazines of 20 to 30 rounds, or the truly high-cap mags like the Beta-C drums of 75 - 150.

Who needs that?

Slashdotters of all people should know a critical thing: the majority isn't always right. If you thought otherwise, why don't we format all our Linux partitions and run Windoze? I mean, the market has spoken, right?

Spoken in favor of rank idiocy. "The market" is made up of the same technoturnips that try and find the "any key" when the screen says "press any key to continue".

That particular kind of idiocy is harmless. But every once in a while, the sheeple masses get violently stupid all at once. They riot in LA because of a court decision, or a bunch of morons decide to loot after a hurricane or other natural disaster.

Those are recent examples; in both, homeowners and business owners often sto

The AWB does not ban these - they are covered under an earlier law which does not expire (they can still be owned under certain onerous conditions).

The AWB, despite its name, actually covers semi-automatic rifles which resemble to certain assault rifles. Semis fire only one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, in the same way that a policeman's pistol or a cowboy's revolver does. They are not assault weapons since they cannot be fired in automatic mode. The AWB lists guns resembling certain assault weapons, or which have more than a certain number of specific features, such as a bayonet lug, a pistol grip, a flash hider, or a telescoping stock.

The AWB bans semi-automatic rifles which look scary, ignoring the fact that the average deer rifle is far more powerful and has better range.

I own an AR15 which I use in CMP target matches. While this rifle fires essentially the same round as our soldiers are using in Iraq, in many places I could not even use it to hunt deer legally, since its too feeble a round. Something like this packs a much bigger punch. Of course, there is no talk of banning this rifle, since it does not look scary.

A good analogy to the AWB would be if the legislature decided to attack dangerous driving by banning fuzzy dice and chrome exhausts. It might make some people feel better, but actually attacks the wrong target. (The right target is the criminal, not the gun.)

The (so-called) "Assault Weapons Ban" is a very silly law which did not ban Assault Weapons, or detectably reduce crime. I'm glad its dying. I'm not going out to buy any of the 'scary features' for my rifle - it's fine as it is. But I will like having the ability to do so if I wanted - that's what freedom is all about.

• nmap for basic port sniffing.
• nessus for more extensive security sweeping.
• ethereal for packet capture & analysis.
• snort for intrusion detection.
• magnum marine for spammer management (I feel a mod-down comin on!)

I have a vague notion about how to use some of them in limited fashion, but I'm handicaped by not having an intimate knowledge of how IP and TCP really work (down at the packet level).

Winchester Model 1894 .30-30

Armalite AR-180B

Remington Model 700 VLS

With the introduction of Google Rads in Opera 7.2x, it became evident that Google does/will not display ads when surfing gun-related websites in Opera -- instead, Opera displays its default "Buy Opera Today!" banner. Examples include prominent gun-makers like Remington, Smith & Wesson, and many more. Similarly, Second Amendment news sites also seem to thwart Google Rads, like Firearm News.

better bring your blowtorch, epoxy encapsulation sounds like it's hard to crack. One of these might work, if your aim is good. They aren't meant for epoxy removal, but I've found a .22 can deal with almost any adhesive.

...to destroy a computer involves a Remington 870 12 guage loaded with 00-buck 3" magnum shells at close range to both the side of the case and to the face of a CRT monitor. Make sure you wear adequate hearing and eye protection first.

I live in Jersey and one of the State Reps who was behind this bill came on NPR. He's not the idiot alot of you make him out to be. The idea behind the bill is alot like CA Emmission Requirements. Sure, you can get higher poluting cars elsewhere but by forcing companies to do something if they want to sell in a state, alot of companies will do the math and see that it's cheaper to just do the R and D the state wants than to lose the ability to sell in that state and give the marketshare to whatever company does do the R and D. Even if you think it's a misguided attempt to save lives...what did you do to save lives this year? At least somebodys trying.

Secondly, it's not that crazy a request. Electronicaly controlled firearms are already starting to appear for sale to the general public. For example: EtronX It's a hunting rifle that has no moving parts (except for the bolt that you operate manually to chamber each round). It triggers the primer with an electrical impulse and it has a small key that you fit into the but of the gun to "arm" it. The whole thing runs on a standard nine volt battery and a LED tells you when it's time to change it...

All the state senators are asking is that the gun compaines look at leveraging technology like this into more dangerious handguns and whoever does it first gets to have a market advantage when the law goes into effect. It's a law that actually rewards innovation...someting I think we'd like to see more of!

An excellent point overall (especially the "average joe" part), except for one thing: it doesn't make any distinction between the design intent of the specific firearms.

Case in point, the Uzi. This line of weapons was never intended for general recreational use. They were designed as compact, light-weight, easily wielded assault weapons, with mechanisms that would prove reliable under intense, high-rate of fire situations. In other words, close quarters combat situations.

On the other hand, you have recreational-design rifles the likes of the Remingtion 7400 series and the Browning BAR series. In the strictest sense, they are semi-automatic. However, they are long (unwieldy), heavy, and have very limited magazine capacities (usually about 5 rounds; less than a standard revolver). In addition, their firing mechanisms often jam if not cleaned and maintained regularly due to build-up of gun powder residue.

In other words, they were designed for the guys that can't hit the deer on the first shot and need to get a second one off quickly. ;-)

yes, scopes do need to be zeroed at a specific distance, and this drop becomes quite a factor at longer ranges (the bullet has approximately a parabolic trajectory, with the peak typically at about 100 yards).
http://www.remington.com/ammo/ballistics/centerfir e/223rembal.htm is a good approximate reference for distances up to 500 yards.
but, as that table shows, bullet drop doesn't affect accuracy more than +-2 inches until you get past 250 yards.
i couldn't find a good summary of the distances from which each victim was shot, but i'm doubting it was more than that.