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These ones:

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/...

US$725M: 20-year 100% sales tax abatement
US$332M: 10-year 100% property tax abatement
US$120M: Transferable tax credits
US$75M: $12,500 per job transferable tax credits (6,000 jobs)
US$27M: 10-year 100% modified business tax abatement
US$8M: Discounted electricity rates for eight years

Well I happen to be a certified accountant and the fact that some of these subsidies are not cash money doesn't make them any less real. In cost accounting it's called an externalized cost. Literally a cost someone else pays.

Yea, but it doesn't hold up to direct payments. I get the concept, you aren't telling me anything new, but frankly it is rather dishonest to compare a "we wish we had carbon taxes" thing to "real actual dollars being spent".

The panels are NOT "dirt cheap"

Yes they are, 1 dollar a watt, or less.

http://www.directsolarsupply.c...

75 cents a watt, there you go. That is dirt cheap. The cost to get those panels installed on my roof? $3.50 a watt.

Making the panels free wouldn't really do much to the overall cost of putting them on my roof.

The cost of land is generally not an issue

It is always an issue, it costs something.

there is plenty of available land on rooftops

Installing on a roof costs more than on the ground, eating away the savings of space.

Nonsense. We absolutely are paying billions to oil companies to pump more oil. It's not even a debate. 20 Seconds on Google would disabuse you of this false notion.

And you prove my point. You're the one with the false notion. Here, I'll use your own link you provided:

"The Guardian has found that:

A proposed Shell petrochemical refinery in Pennsylvania is in line for $1.6bn (£1bn) in state subsidy, according to a deal struck in 2012 when the company made an annual profit of $26.8bn."

A jobs subsidy scheme worth $78m to Marathon Petroleum in Ohio began in 2011, when the company made $2.4bn in profit.

Those are state incentives given to build a business in the state. All sorts of businesses get such things. It just "happened to be oil", but it could have been any type of business. It is about bringing jobs to the state, nothing more or less.

To claim they are "fossil fuel subsidies" is dishonest. They are business and job subsidies. If Pennsylvania hadn't given that state subsidy, then Shell may well have built that refinery in another state, or even another country.

It is no different than this:

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/...

Nevada gave a $1.25 billion dollar subsidy to Tesla to build their gigafactory there. Why? Jobs and economy. Same reason as the above for Shell and Marathon Petroleum.

I'll enjoy watching you suffer the choking grip of California taxes & regulations while Tesla rides high right across the border. How could they be so idiotic? http://www.rgj.com/story/news/...

Government is an evil structure by its very definition, as it is set up to provide the collective with violent means of dominating an individual. Whatever system that is fundamentally based on violence can not and will not avoid using violence to increase its own power, and blah blah blah blah

As much as starting your own business means you will sexually harass your female employees, defraud your investors, dump toxic waste in the river, and join the international slave trade. For what some businesses have done, all businesses will do.

That's either equally brilliant as your assertion that government = evil, or equally asinine.

Another problem left out of your Randian storyline: look back at the worst Soviet agency, program or institution you could name, and its bureaucrats wouldn't have a direct, personal incentive to cut corners the way capitalists do. Because, as you Randians constantly tell us, socialism/communism leads to lazy, unproductive workers that have guaranteed jobs and salaries no matter how little they work. As opposed to capitalists, who choose to leave people with cancer, disembowelment or death to save a buck (or less) on products that cost thousands of dollars.

Here try this (from the local paper) http://www.rgj.com/story/money...

There is a fascinating and unexpected inversion here: Corporations are now standing up against government to protect the rights of citizens. Of course, most of us expect that relationship to work the other way around.

It is not just Facebook. The first sentence of this article reads: "The FBI director has slammed Apple and Google for offering their customers encryption technology that protects users’ privacy."

Today, a product which includes protection from the government has added value. A prediction: In the future, corporate protection from government intrusion and persecution will become the product. Smart corporations such as Tesla (see Nevada tax deal) or Apple and Google (see double Irish Dutch sandwich) have special rights or have exempted themselves from government rules by using loopholes. Meanwhile, every day there is news of the federal government becoming increasingly insane. Like today. Increasingly, the government is engaging in unethical, illegal activities such as theft. As demand from protection from the federal government increases with the growing abuses, corporations will meet that demand by sheltering customers under their own umbrellas.

"We are going to proceed with at least two locations in parallel, just in case one of them encounters some issues after breaking ground," Musk said. He said Panasonic was likely to be Tesla's partner in battery production.

The fact that construction started and then stopped makes it sound more like this is that - who else would do such a thing?

5) They are (no counting ones that were already in place)? While you're at it, don't forget to mention all the new taxes brought in recently too.

one of many links you could google. Now your turn -- where is your evidence that Obama /raised/ your taxes?

Also relevant photos showing the airplane was damaged before impact: missing elevator

Another photo series: impact

--jeffk++

Here are some interesting photos which may show that there was mechanical failure: Elevator trim tab missing

Another scary series of photos: Impact

--jeffk++

Because the http://www.rgj.com/ Reno Gazette Journal Fishwrap and Cage Liner is a piece of crap. That's why.

I live in Sparks just north of Reno and south of Stead where the races are. I was talking to a neighbor outside when I heard a million sirens all at once. I went in, and heard the news. What a mess.

Glad you're alright James. A friend of mine was going to go to the races today and decided to go four wheeling instead. He's glad he did.

"If you read the linked article in TFA, you will find that she BOUGHT HIM A LAPTOP AND MAILED IT TO INDIA! wtf woman"

And she was dating him online
http://www.rgj.com/article/20100729/NEWS13/100729021/1321/news
"Following the initial technical call, conversations between Fitzgerald and Shaikh quickly turned personal. Fitzgerald admitted being flattered by the attention from the Indian support tech, whose MySpace page identifies him as being 24 years old. "He's very charming and he knew exactly what to say. It warmed my heart," she said."

Sorry lady, the guy might have stolen your photos and called you a bitch (hence bitchtara.com) but you started dating him online and gave him your credit card and bought him gifts.

How many actual detonations do we hear about - at school or anywhere else? Like maybe 1 every couple of years?

Explosions are rare.

But kids do strange things:

A Pine Middle School 8th grader showed classmates spent CO2 cartridges modified to look like explosive devices on the morning bus ride to school, prompting his fellow students to alert school officials. He was showing them to kids on the bus and telling them he had made them. The young man had drilled holes in the top of the cartridges and inserted key chains which made them look like explosives to some of the youngsters Pine Middle School bomb scare turns out to be fake

One question that never really gets answered in these stories is what a geek thinks a real bomb would look like - and how much he would be willing to risk if he had to make the call. With maybe 600 lives depending on the right answer.
 

The Reno Air Races get an attendance of over 200,000 each year.

http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2005/09/13/10 8687.php

The EAA AirVenture Oshkosh show gets 750,000+ visitors.

http://www.airventure.org/2006/about/history.html

"How many 8RU server cases packed with explosives do you need to take out an entire floor of any given DC?"

In 1980, they used a photocopier full of explosives againt the Harbey casino. Rack servers would definately be easier to load into someone's data center.
http://www.rgj.com/extra/harveys.php

(decides against bad pun regarding cluster bombs...)

he looks exactly like Spock.... Spock: http://www.rgj.com/news/files/2005/01/11/61802_250 .jpg Professor Matloff: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/mugs/lg/lg_matloff _n.jpg freaky

And given that "Earth and Mars have been swapping spit for billions of years", chances are it has already happened.

Better than the Democrats cure for arthritis:

"You get some gin and get some white raisins -- and only white raisins -- and soak them in the gin for two weeks," she said. "Then eat nine of the raisins a day." -Heinz Kerry

more info

Understandably, the ACLU is rather mad about the cure.

Yet I bet that their "120,000" number is about as good as my own analysis above- sounds very precise, but not at all accurate... But since those HTQ people are now defined- and who wants to waste data- they're going to show up in the gov't databases. And then their roommates and co-workers are going to get flagged as medium TQ people. And then their roommates get to be medium-low TQ people. And so on and so on... If you're lucky you'll only be a LLML TQ, but no one gets to be 100% free of the taint.

Even though that original 120k number doesn't pass the sniff test. Sure, ".04%" seems like a small number, but that equals one in 2500 people. Is 1/2500 people in the US a terrorist? That'd be 1 terrorist per 10 airplane flights, or several terrorists per major sporting event, or 400 terrorists in Silicon Valley (plus the 30 laid off who've moved back home). Unless they're all fantastically incompetent, the US should have several terror events per day.

[Pause to answer knock on door....]

Oh, never mind, we are crawling with terrorists, like the Peace Fresno anti-war group with their monthly streetside protest. Forgot that civil disobedience is now terrorism. Unless its lawful civil disobedience, of course. I'm just going to go back to my Orrin Hatch CD now.

We just set up a van to do the sort of thing you're describing. We went with Skycasters for the mobile Direcway/Hughes dish mounted on a '66 Ford Econoline, and then added various goodies on the inside. Skycasters also sells a man-portable satellite unit originally designed for FEMA. That may be just the ticket for your application. One thing to keep in mind is that the satellite downlink is zippy, but the uplink is incredibly slow and the overall latency is terrible. So you'll want to set up on-site proxy servers for any service you plan to use a lot. You'll also need a clear view of the southern sky.

For comparison, the Four Corners power plant is 2,040 megawatts, and the San Juan plant is 1,600 megawatts. These plants and others have smogged the views around the Grand Canyon.

Too bad the clear air around Gerlach will be a thing of the past.

maybe the trippers decided everyone needed some practice:

Four injured in second small plane crash at Burning Man

Article

Pending the freezing of hell . . .

Cory Farley
RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL
11/21/2003 03:10 pm

Ah, man, I ought to resist this. It's going to cause more trouble than it's worth . . . .

No, there's a way. Let's try this:

What follows is a blatant anti-Republican screed, unless it's a diatribe. Diatribe, I guess. The dictionary says a screed has to be both long and tiresome; a diatribe only has to be abusive.

I realize it's one-sided and that many patriotic Americans will be offended by it. Since I already realize that, it isn't necessary for any patriotic Americans to tell me about it.

I'm going to use it anyway, because it's pretty funny. I got it under the heading, "Things you have to believe to be a Republican today."

o Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

o The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

o Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.

o "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

o A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

o Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.

o The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

o Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.

o If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

o A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

o HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.

o Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

o Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

o Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

o A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.

o Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

o The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.

o You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.

o What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

o Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

I would, of course, print a comparable list of things you have to believe to be a Democrat, if I had one, and if it were funny, and if . . . .

No. You send one, and I'll print it even if hell doesn't freeze over.

Cory Farley can be reached at (775) 788-6340 or cfarley@rgj.com.

Copyright (C) 2002 The Reno Gazette-Journal

Your security system example provides a good case in point. Many people do buy them out of fear. A security system at best provides a limited time for the intruder to spend on a premises before risking apprehension. For this to be effective the security system has to be monitored, and the security system must be on. This means that the security service must not only monitor for alarms, but must also monitor for system status. For example, an alarm company should know that between the hours of 5PM and 7AM the system should be armed, and if it is not, then someone should be called to find out why not. Not all security services provide this level of monitoring, and those that don't are arguably providing emotional protection from fear, not physical security.

Another example Schnier has cited is guns for airline pilot, which is really a perfect example of fear based policies. The purpose of the pilot is to fly the plane. Simulations in cockpits using real pilots and trained terrorist experts has shown that it is likely that a terrorist will get the gun from the pilot and kill everyone in the cockpit before the either pilot can draw a weapon. OTOH, we realize the value of secure cockpit and are making it happen. The Israeli's have known this for years. If the cockpit is secure, then the pilots can do their job and we will be much less likely to have planes flying into buildings.

And there are other techniques pilots can use to defend the plane. The French in 1994 used such techniques to successfully thwart a plan to crash a hijacked plane into the Eiffel tower which would have killed everyone on board, not to mention many people in the tower and tower area. Instead, the pilots were able to use the physics of the plane to pin the terrorist long enough to land the plane in a French military base where qualified military personnel stormed the plane, killed all 4 hijackers with the loss of (only) three passenger lives. The US knew of that this hijacking could lead to danger for the US, that the anti-terrorist method could be used here, yet even today the best they can come up with is using commercial pilots as police, unworkable passenger screening, and training fighter pilots to shoot down commercial jets. At least it seems that our nations finest are reluctant to commit to such acts.

So I would say Schnier has plenty of reason to assume that people make these decisions based on fear rather than logic.

While we're on the subject, why does /. insert spaces into URLs? Link works, but cut and paste requires some editing.

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