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And Turbo Vision lives on in Unix as tvision (GPL) or an older BSD fork for C and C++, or Free Vision for FreePascal. Not sure if any of these projects has been actively developed for some years. But they are fairly mature projects.

Several IDEs have been built using these tools that look like Turbo C++ used to. Kind of neat, and still looks good and is useful on modern Unix systems today.

Here's a link to the current source code, as it wasn't straight forward to find: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/free...

Licensed under GNU LGPL v2.1.

In case you're up to fiddling with this project yourself, the source code (in a more manageable format usable with Scrolling Game Development Kit 2) is available at https://bitbucket.org/bluemonk.... I'm not sure I have the motivation to maintain it much any more myself. Unfortunately, Scrolling Game Development Kit 2 requires Windows, so you wouldn't be able to use that from OS X. I tried porting SGDK2 to other platforms (namely Linux) once long ago, but there was some difference in the way the Microsoft implementation of .NET treated serialized datasets that made me give up on that idea. I wonder if I would have more success with the new generations of .NET.

Transmission-QT was missing URL in parent post... This reply FTFY.

No, there's more than just Otter. Fifth is based on FLTK.

http://fifth-browser.sf.net/

It's called Fifth, and another option is Otter.

http://fifth-browser.sf.net/
http://otter-browser.org/

The Fifth browser has that natively.

http://fifth-browser.sf.net/

Naturally Linux exclusive, and seemingly built by an old beardy crank, so you can expect it to stay free and on the good fight.

Use Fifth. Lean and privacy-focused.

http://fifth-browser.sf.net/

You should try Fifth or Otter.

Fifth allows you to easily disable JS per-site, making sites rather snappy if they still work, but also having the rendering compatibility of webkit.

http://fifth-browser.sf.net/
http://otter-browser.org/

The language alone is not good enough, but it is simple to share. By contrast, building a complete web browser today is a bit difficult, and even a smaller "graphic" language like Tao3D is not that easy to build, in particular if you include all the dependencies. For Tao3D, you need Qt with WebKit, OpenGL, VLC, XLR, LLVM and I forget half a dozen. So I think that exposing the language-only part is interesting. For a while, Tao3D was the same project as XLR, but we decided to split early on. We wanted XLR to remain a non-graphical, non-reactive, non-networked, easy to port language.

While Go and Swift are interesting incremental improvements, they are not taking into account what we learned about programming languages. In many ways, these two languages seem firmly stuck in the 1980s. For example, Go has no generics, and as far as I can tell, Swift still does not have the kind of true generic types I introduced in XL in 2000, i.e. the possibility to call "ordered" all types that have a less than, and then define functions with "ordered" instead of having to use <T> all over the place just like in C++ (and please, could we stop using angle brackets?)

More generally, there was a lot to be learned from more dynamic languages deriving from Lisp. Being able to treat code as data (homoiconicity) completely changes things. It means your language can be extended in itself, just like Lisp integrated object-oriented capabilities effortlessly. It means you can do metaprogramming, introspection, reflection, dynamic code generation, in a natural way rather than with specialised ad-hoc features. All things that Go or Swift spectacularly fail to do.

A real language redesign does not bring you incremental benefits, it should bring orders of magnitude on many tasks. I speak from experience. In XL, I can do complex arithmetic in 11 lines of code. What about Swift or Go? Ask yourself why Go can't offer complex arithmetic as a library package? Similarly, in Tao3D, I can do things HTML5 just can't, in a much less verbose, much higher-level language, and simple animations take 30 times less code than in JavaScript. The 30x factor tells me that I invented something new. Many others can demonstrate similar innovation.

I fail to see benefits of a similar order of magnitude with Swift or Go, and it annoys me. Companies like Apple and Google have the means, if only the financial ones, to make bigger things happen, in particular when smaller teams like ours already did a lot of investigative work.

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Try Fifth.

GPL. Nuff Said.

You too can play music tones from CLI:

1. Download qodem from http://qodem.sf.net/ .
2. Compile it with SDL audio support (on Debian, have libsdl1.2-dev installed) OR plan to use it on the raw Linux console.
3. Create a LOCAL phonebook entry with ANSI emulation.
4. Embed ANSI music (http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/library/PROGRAMS/GRAPHICS/ANSI/ansimusic.txt) sequences in you CLI output.
5. Enjoy 1980's era sine wave tones blasting from your speaker system.

You're looking for Cream for Vim.

DOH! that should be http://sc2.sf.net/


"It's been 1 minute since you last successfully posted a comment" I know, I'm posting a correction.

No, they sold the trademark and licensed the right to distribute the binaries, but P&F retained all ownership of the IP, art, stories, code, etc. That's why http://uqm.sf.net/ exists.

I know it fell out of favor for new projects when Google Code / CodePlex / GitHub came on the scene with their Web 2.0 design hotness and minimalistic feature sets, but SourceForge is still around and continues to improve without taking any features away.

I especially like the PERL/Ruby APIs, but the thing is written for Rails2 and would need some refactoring.

I know there's GLPI - but I don't need most of the stuff it provides (and I'm not sure if it would fit our use-cases) and I'd rather want something that can be plugged into existing solutions via APIs...

err...Go here. Stupid /...

Apparently we need a nice high level 3D presentation library but we don't want to work out how to use libxml2.

The idea here was precisely to show the kind of things you could do with mere regular expressions (we introduced a regexp module recently). Yes, I know it is theoretically wrong, and if you knew how much I don't care, you wouldn't bother insulting me with the suggestion that we wouldn't know how to use libxml2. XML parsing is on its way, but if you want to add it yourself, Taodyne provides a C++ SDK (here is an example to get you started).

(Also, what language did you base that on? It's surprisingly hard to read.)

As mentioned in the story, it's called XL. Can you elaborate why you think it is hard to read? As an aside, I completely disagree with that statement. Here is for example how you create a slide in Reveal.js:

<section>
  <h2>Heads Up</h2>
  <p>
    reveal.js is an easy to use, HTML based, presentation tool.
  </p>
</section>

Here is how you create a similar slide in Tao Presentations:

slide "My page",
    title
        text "Heads up"
    story
        text "Tao Presentations is an easy to use, XL-based presentation tool"

For me, I already know which one I find easier to read (or to copy-paste in Slashdot for that matter). But the difference really shows when you want to add a time-dependent HSV color:

slide "My page",
    title
        text "Heads up"
    story
        color_hsv 20 * time, 30%, 80%
        text "Tao Presentations is an easy to use, XL-based presentation tool"

Now, writing this in Reveal.js is left as an exercise for the reader...

I thought everyone moved to http://qbittorrent.sf.net/ since 3.x came out? The added open vs closed debate is pretty much a no brainer. I mean, if I was 'big media' (intent on suing the crap out of everyone), I'd be paying uT mgmt for a secret list of every user and every download they've ever done. I'm sure this type of thing is trivial, and with multple cases over a long period of time, the ip tracking / identity becomes a much easier thing to prove.

The point is, with closed source, and private company software, you just can't know what is really going on can you?

I'm glad they've decided to shed their user base, honest

If you want to minimize the number of volumes required to pack your files I recommend GAFFitter (http://gaffitter.sf.net/), which reorders a set of files/directories to best fit the volumes and so to avoid waste of space.

May I ask what your application does?

I have a few, actually: http://fplan.sf.net/ http://xdraft.sf.net/ http://gcomm.sf.net/ -- all of which have succumbed to bit-rot and will have to be ported to new toolkits.

The thing is, I don't have a lot of time in my life for open-source projects, and would much rather spend my time developing than porting over and over again. Xdraft and gcomm have *already* been ported from one dead toolkit to another.

Well, I guess it's time to learn QT4 and do it all over again.

May I ask what your application does?

I have a few, actually: http://fplan.sf.net/ http://xdraft.sf.net/ http://gcomm.sf.net/ -- all of which have succumbed to bit-rot and will have to be ported to new toolkits.

The thing is, I don't have a lot of time in my life for open-source projects, and would much rather spend my time developing than porting over and over again. Xdraft and gcomm have *already* been ported from one dead toolkit to another.

Well, I guess it's time to learn QT4 and do it all over again.

May I ask what your application does?

I have a few, actually: http://fplan.sf.net/ http://xdraft.sf.net/ http://gcomm.sf.net/ -- all of which have succumbed to bit-rot and will have to be ported to new toolkits.

The thing is, I don't have a lot of time in my life for open-source projects, and would much rather spend my time developing than porting over and over again. Xdraft and gcomm have *already* been ported from one dead toolkit to another.

Well, I guess it's time to learn QT4 and do it all over again.

Eraser is a program that will wipe free space with random data (it can also do the same for files you want to nuke).. Its handy to make sure what you deleted stays deleted, without wiping the whole machine.

I liked Triplane Turmoil, and old shareware DOS game, a lot. When I met the original developers by accident I offered to help port the game to SDL and managed to convince them to release it as open source: http://triplane.sf.net/

Hey, good job! Thanks for helping this to happen.

I liked Triplane Turmoil, and old shareware DOS game, a lot. When I met the original developers by accident I offered to help port the game to SDL and managed to convince them to release it as open source: http://triplane.sf.net/

2. Contribute to open source. I'd shy away from starting your own open source project. That is actually difficult to do unless you know someone demanding it and then you're kind of being held to get it done.

Well it depends on what your intention is. As the author of an open source project I got little feedback on, I'm still glad I wrote the project because I needed it for my own purposes, and I was still able to treat it like a "real project." I wrote an installer for it. I had version numbers. I shipped it out on laptops I setup for my employer, because I might need to use it to diagnose problems. If the author has a real problem to solve for themselves, even if its for their weekly D&D game or for a fantasy sports league, they can still teach themselves about version control, installer software, unit testing, or other things.

I learned about version control when I was writing VB6 programs as a clerk in a security guard company. No one told me to. I decided on my own. Later when I was a programmer there I taught myself to make an MSI installer and how to use NUint. No market pressures from my boss or a client made me do this. Just a desire to be more professional and disciplined.

I've been using CScope in Emacs for about a year (in fact, I added the entry to ascope.el on that wiki page you linked to), and I've recently switched to Semantic from CEDET and GNU Global.

Sadly, the Emacs Code Browser (ECB) linked to from the CEDET page seems to be broken for recent versions of Emacs and CEDET and unmaintained.

While I dislike Eclipse for bloat and difficult extensibility, I have yet to decide whether Emacs has caught up with it for code browsing.

Well, the open source pycam has no problem working in parallel for 3d gcode generation. It even works with multiple computers over a network.

(anon because I moderated in this thread)

You're going to have to point it out to me - give me the CID link so I can see this alleged 18 comment thread full of "constant insults" because I'm not finding it. I went back through literally every single one of my posts over the last 5 weeks and you are not there (/. won't load post history past 24th November), unless it's as an AC or on a different account - which strongly suggests you post and moderate in the same discussions.

You (or anyone else) are welcome to go back and check my posts personally - slashdot keeps them all, and I cannot delete them or get the mods to remove them (I'm not a scientologist). I suspect you're trying to bluff anyone else who reads this since it's a hassle to check, but I have checked just to be sure, and unless it's on another account: nothing in the past 5 odd weeks, except for today (the page won't seem to load anything earlier than 24th November, or perhaps it's just the past 200 comments. If you have a link to this discussion I am all ears - I am genuinely interested in what it is since you seem to still be so easily able to recall it 6 weeks on.

The 29th of March 2009 is the last time (before this thread) that slashdot gave me a notification email stating you replied to a comment of mine on the account you are currently posting with. Here is the email in full, sent on 29 March 2011 04:35:11 GMT+01:00:

I'm sure you'll try to claim that I've doctored this, or deleted some "incriminating" email response messages, but come on, why would I do that? (edit: had to shorten the lines made up of equals characters due to /. lameness filter)

It's far more likely that you have remembered something I have said to you while you've been trolling on another account, or while posting AC. You and anyone else is welcome to look back over my posting history for this alleged "constant insulting" or I'll challenge you to post a link or at least tell us what article it was posted in, since you seem to recall it so well.

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NTRU is probably the most trustworthy and useable post-quantum cryptosystem.

Doesn't matter. There's already a tool out there called OpenBTS that's open source and easy as heck to get running. Been out for a few years too.

I am working on a server-less peer-to-peer filesharing application, dubbed Jake. Quite interesting technology stack (XMPP, ICE/STUN, AES-encryption, RSync). As someone stated below, why involve/trust a third party?

There is also http://retroshare.sf.net/

I am working on a server-less peer-to-peer filesharing application, dubbed Jake. Quite interesting technology stack (XMPP, ICE/STUN, AES-encryption, RSync). As someone stated below, why involve/trust a third party?

There is also http://retroshare.sf.net/

Yes, sending files in-band can fail and is often capped by administrators. In my peer-to-peer filesharing application, dubbed Jake, I use XMPP to negotiate a ICE/STUN peer-to-peer connection. If that fails, there is always the in-band method to fall back to. (The backend seems to work decently, the GUI and testing needs work though)

Unfortunately, it can take a fair amount of work to properly open source a large commercial project. The commercial project may well have bits of code and other assets from various sources under various restrictive licenses and either permission would need to be obtained (which makes work for the legal department) or documentation for the restricted code would need to be written so that somebody in the company or a volunteer could do a clean-room rewrite. And even if there is in fact no such code or asset in the project, I assume due diligence would require someone at the company to go through the project carefully to make sure that they have the right to release all of it. Plus, even after all that was done, there may be issues with required proprietary build tools--though that issue could be left for the community to work around (one can release a tarball that doesn't compile and let someone try to figure it out)--and, as many people mentioned, there may be issues with patents. Last year, I tracked down and persuaded the author of the now defunct but excellent PalmOS astronomy app 2sky to release it under the GPL. But open sourcing it wasn't easy, even though this was a much smaller project than some of the ones mentioned. There were a large number of chunks of code to be rewritten because the author had obtained them under a GPL-incompatible license. And for me to be able to generate binaries and debug, I had to switch it to an open source toolchain from Codewarrior. And finally I had to reverse-engineer some of the author's database formats because he couldn't track down the documentation for them and the data needed to be updated (new daylight-savings rules, new comet data). It all works now (open2sky.sf.net), but it was more work than I expected. The point is that to open source a large project is more work than inserting GPL notices and tarring. A company needs to make sure that everything they can't open source has been removed, and they may feel reasonably hesitant about releasing an obsolete project that doesn't successfully build. I still wish they would release. :-)

What about xu4? http://xu4.sf.net/

Grey area. I've never used it, but from the readme, it sounds like an open-source engine to play the original game. That is, you need the original game and it uses the original game files. "The actual data files from Ultima 4 are loaded at runtime, which means that a copy of Ultima 4 for DOS must be present at runtime."

It then follows that up with: "Fortunately, Ultima IV is available as closed-source freeware on the internet (legally). A copy is mirrored at xu4.sourceforge.net." That at least is incorrect (it is no longer freeware), and xu4 is merely currently under the radar.

http://ejbca.sf.net/

In it's easiest form (everything on one host), it should be easy enough to implement.

Here's what is good about autotools: 'make dist', ./configure --enable-XXX, and easy integration with debhelper and rpmbuild.

I've got a small ~60kloc project out there that I started out using a simple makefile and C code, and then later migrated to gettext and autotools. I really wish in hindsight that I had just started with GNU Hello World and gettext from the get-go and then built out my project. As it was, I spent days re-factoring strings for gettext and more days getting my configure.ac and Makefile.am doing what they should have done rather than what I wanted them to do.

But now I've got a build system that works very cleanly on Linux, OS X, FreeBSD, Cygwin, and Win32 (using the mingw32 cross compiler), and can also be used with dpkg-buildpackage to make .debs. All with the same configure.ac and Makefile.am, and automatically compiling the right things when a header is changed. I have conditionals for three different user interfaces and two optional supporting libraries. All told it was a LOT easier than make by itself or even boost.build.

Ha, yeah, amazing how far I had to scroll down to find anyone actually trying to answer the guy's solicitation for alternatives :P

No mention of LyX yet. No, it's not WYSIWYG, it's better. I do all of my serious reports in it. Though I do turn to Word and OO.org and its ilk for mail merge envelope labels and fax cover sheets. It tosses out latex, and it's a good feeling to run "make" on your report every so often and get all of your updated graphics and diagrams included and published simultaneously in linked html, single-page html, and printable pdf.

I haven't come to use gnumeric as much as OO.o Calc, but it's good for quickly viewing csv data. For other projects I'll whip up scripts in octave + gnuplot. Unfortunately, it does take time to learn, but it's much easier feeding it new sets of data and just getting out plots and analysis in your reports without lots of mindless fumbling with spreadsheet cells. It's a different way of thinking to run a script to generate your plots rather than constantly tweaking a spreadsheet.

Not as featureful as PowerPoint, but I've been using Impress!ve (formerly known as keyjnote or something like that) to present PDF slides. Also works on directories of images. It's missing a lot of the "distracting" features of PowerPoint such as builds, but has a lot things that help focus, such as slide sorter views and spotlights. And pretty OpenGL transitions.

I wouldn't go so far as to remove OO.org / LibreOffice from your toolbox, but there are plenty of other ways to work that provide some compelling advantages over the tired old approach.

Actually I know for a fact RDP can do just apps*, just is Microsoft does not want you to that because of their licensing/business model.

http://rdesktop.sf.net/ and seamless rdp

manufacturers will take a hint and make WPA encryption mandatory.

That's actually a terrible idea. WPA won't solve the real problem.
It would make people feel secure, until a year later someone publishes a tool that simplifies ARP poisoning and the whole story starts again.

If you really care about the security of the users, you should teach people how to use end-to-end encrypted protocols, like HTTPS for example.

Sure, EEGs don't exactly grow on trees - I just meant it as a solution which is very reliable and decently doable (maybe know somebody with private practice? Or... - certainly much worse from medical ones, but might be enough for noticing sleep; then there's also http://openeeg.sf.net/ )

PS. Posted when close to 24h without sleep, near a "cliff"/crisis period. It's better to do ~36h and go to sleep normally - as you said, in a few hours it will be bearable/better; but how much of that is formed by our skewed perception? (good thing there's a holiday at my place today)

It's not too slow right now. Let me give you a species and a profile to use

http://ansistego.sf.net/6600-generation-foodotropes-for-critterdrug.tgz critters
http://ansistego.sf.net/foodotrope-drug.profile

Heck I'll just link em on the page

It's not too slow right now. Let me give you a species and a profile to use

http://ansistego.sf.net/6600-generation-foodotropes-for-critterdrug.tgz critters
http://ansistego.sf.net/foodotrope-drug.profile

Heck I'll just link em on the page