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It's worth noting that not all of them have all of the adjustments. If you look on Craiglist and the like, a lot of versions seem to have some of the adjustments removed, presumably to lower the price of the chair. I expect a lot of people got hold of these chairs from office sales, where companies bought them in bulk.

For the record, my Aeron can be raised or lowered, has a lock that controls whether you can tilt it back and forth or not, has a dial that lets you control the tension of the tilt, and has a separate lock that tilts the chair forward a bit (maybe useful for the restless leg syndrome someone else mentioned). I've seen many versions that lack some or all of these.

Some models may also lack all the arm adjustments that the full version can do -- I'm not sure about that, because I always take the arms off my office chairs. (If I leave them on, I inevitably start leaning on them when I become fatigued, and that absolutely trashes my arms after just a few weeks.)

Mine also came with a lumbar cushion that slides up and down. That's actually my least favorite part of the chair -- the sliding means that it will never stay put once you find the place you think it should be. Herman-Miller actually sells a new lumbar support as a separate purchase, now (about $100, last I checked) that seems designed to stay in place. Does anyone have one of these and can speak to how well it works?

Finally, some people don't seem to be aware that Aeron chairs come in three different sizes. The most common is the "B" size, but if you are a very small person you might want the "A" size. I -- a tall, skinny dude -- was told by the salesperson that I'd definitely want the "C" size because of my height, but having bought the chair I suspect I actually prefer the "B." Still, if you were a rather wide person I'm sure the "C" size would be much more comfortable.

Bottom line: There is some variation in Aeron chairs, so if you're looking to buy one, make sure you're getting what you pay for, especially if you're buying it used.

And one more thing: All that said, I still keep a boring old gray office chair that I bought from Office Despot because it's firm and comfortable. Maybe hubby actually likes that chair he's been sitting in? I don't actually buy that the Aeron is the be-all, end-all of sitting equipment just because it costs $600. Remember, there is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all "ergonomic chair." The key is being able to adjust it to a position that suits you.

And remember: RSIs are the real deal.

Excuse me? Can you support the fact that McCain supports torture with any facts?

What everyone seems to be referencing is his vote against the Conference Report to accompany H.R. 2082, the Intelligence Authorization bill. Which McCain specifically explains his opposition in terms of two main facts. One: all agencies are already prohibited from engaging in "cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of any detainee held by any agency" ( http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/09/BABHVGO3L.DTL ) and two; requiring the CIA to follow the army's manual is a little silly (and counterproductive) considering the obvious differences between the two. He goes on to call for the administration to affirm what is already law and call torture(waterboarding) for what it is.

Would I be correct in understanding you to say that a vote against the aforementioned bill is a vote in support of terrorism?

Any thoughts on this statement by McCain in reasoning why he voted against applying an Army Manual to the CIA?

"It is unfortunate that the reluctance of officials to stand by this straightforward conclusion has produced in the Congress such frustration that we are today debating whether to apply a military field manual to non-military intelligence activities. It wold be far better, I believe, for the administration to state forthrightly what is clear in current law - that anyone who engages in waterboarding, on behalf of any U.S. government agency, puts himself at risk of criminal prosecution and civil liability."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/09/BABHVGO3L.DTL

You are wrong. It is free, it is real time: "Quotes delayed, except where indicated otherwise." During trading hours most quotes are real time. Press release: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=26853

Yahoo recently started offering realtime quotes: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=26853 Look during trading hours and you will see it them.

Note that Obama is for ending the use of federal law enforcement in states where marijuana is decriminalized:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/12/MNKK10FD53.DTL

He also used to be pro-decriminalization, but running for POTUS will turn even good people into panderers.

Obama and McCain want to put potsmokers in prison.

Obama has indicated a willingness to halt the DEA raids on dispensaries in California. He and Bob Barr (Libertarian) favor letting states handle the issue. Obama still wants the FDA involved somewhere; I'm not sure about Barr. McCain has waffled but apparently endorses the current Bush Administration policy. link

The headlines will look like this one Air quality board to fine Bay Area polluters

Every data center that exists has a high carbon footprint. The San Francisco Bay Area is host to a myriad number of data centers that'll now find it convenient to relocate to a more hospitable environment or purchase indulgences in the form of carbon offsets.

When it comes to killing a golden goose, governments have no competitors. That goes double for state governments looking to fill a $15 Billion deficit. That goes triple for messianics.

The hell with the fact that the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis remains a hypothesis and is not a fact. That won't stop the true believers from imposing their will on those of us who remain unconvinced they're right.

I was thinking more along the lines of honesty in government - you know what with the congressional pages running around the hill

Speaking of which (cameras deterring crime), here is an interesting article from SFGate

From the article:

Liberals can certainly defend their positions with legitimate arguments, but generally don't.

And you went to a "major university"? Do they give refunds?

I'm not basing this on the internet per se, although that is highly relevant in this day and age. My opinions are based on the 2004 Republican National Convention protests. The nuts handing out political fliers all over the city.

Well, it's a good thing that conservatives never do crazy stuff like that.

Propaganda produced by the likes of Michael Moore.

I applaud your even-handed assault on divisive political propaganda.

My own education in a major university.

I'm going to guess that you majored in something technical and didn't spend much time in classes that discuss public policy. Getting the flavor of academic political analysis based on fliers and student club activities doesn't count.

The endless parade of media personalities.

Again, a landscape entirely dominated by liberals.

Lets not forget the hordes of hipsters with their "I hate Republicans" signs, clothing, and tattoos.

I can't imagine conservatives being so crass.

We even have anti-conservative graffiti here in NYC.

Ah, yes, vandalism. A tactic completely isolated to the left.

Last but not lease - I've personally had to deal with liberals accuse me of a wide variety of bad things. I've been told I hate the poor despite the fact I'm not particularly wealthy. I've been told I hate minorities, despite the fact I'm hispanic.

For what it's worth, I believe that I've been accused of being anti-American, even though I am an American. I've also been accused of wanting "the terrorists" to win, even though I go to work every day and specifically work on projects designed to help catch them, which is more than most of the population is doing.

I've been told I hate gays, despite the fact I'm friends with a few prominent gay men.

You mean that people were--gasp!--making a rude and unfair assumption about you based on the actions of extremist elements whose political positions you happen to sometimes share? Say it ain't so! What kind of jackass would do that? Then again, does it bother you that the party you support has done such a good job of cynically exploiting anti-gay sentiment with their "protect marriage" propaganda?

I've never in my life heard a conservative in real life say anything like that to a liberal.

Well, you're presumably out of college, so I'm guessing you're old enough to have spent some time in bars. I just don't know what to say to that except to applaud your choice in bars.

I've never met a conservative teacher...

What "major" university did you say this was, again?

...nor seen conservatives take to the streets as a show of force...

No, I suppose that when conservatives do it, it's called protesting and not "taking to the streets as a show of force."

My point is just this - these kinds of t

Check out some of the folks here who've been following this case for months.

"Microsoft hasn't been fixing many security issues in Vista because they think it is very secure."

I think that Microsoft has not been fixing security issues in Vista because, if they ever deliver a secure operating system, PC customers will never buy another.

It's not an impossible challenge, making a secure operating system. Other organizations have done it. If Microsoft hasn't, that is because it doesn't want to.

Microsoft exploits the ignorance of its customers. But now the customers are beginning to be more technically knowledgeable. Many are, for example, rejecting Vista. Eventually Microsoft's abusive practices will have more complete recognition. What will it do then?

Of course, if Microsoft had a good reputation, there is a huge amount of other software that needs to be wriiten. But that is not an option, because Microsoft has never been known for creativity.

Maybe Microsoft's slogan should be, "Making money through doing evil." That's my opinion, but I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

Eventually software's Dr. Death, the Chief of Grief, the Main Chain of Pain, will become much less influential. Until then, the company is putting the world through a lot of hassle and extra expense, and wasting the time of some of the world's most capable people.

Yeah -- they "proved it" in the way that they proved Cynthia Sommers murdered her husband -- she got a boob job and slept around. Of course, in the Sommers case they had a body and a lab result saying it was full of arsenic -- except the police lab botched the test. Fortunately for Sommers, subsequent tests proved there was no arsenic at all. She only had to spend 876 days in jail for her conviction.

I have great faith in the legal system's ability to root out and punish eccentricity. I have absolutely no faith in its ability to do justice.

For those who haven't been following it, Henry Lee of the San Francisco Chronicle has a detailed blog of the entire trial. It is a really bizarre tale (the stuff of soap operas and mini-series). In my opinion, despite the lack of witness, body, or weapon, the circumstantial evidence is fairly compelling when taken as a whole. The defense did actually try to emphasize Hans' weirdness as a characteristic misleading some to assume guilt, but the behavior does not add up, even for an uber-geek.

RTFA, Reiser's defense attorney didn't want to put him on the stand, but Reiser insisted.

Heh.

From the SFGate blog article: "After the verdict was read, the judge told deputies to remove Reiser from the courtroom. As he was led out, he asked, 'Can I talk to my attorney?'"

How about next time, Hans tries listening to his attorney?

To be honest, I thought he was guilty until the closing arguments of the case,
when the Prosecutor pointed out what he considered to be the single most damning
piece of evidence; namely, Nina Reiser's cell phone.

It had been found abandoned, with the battery removed, in her abandoned car.

Now, either Hans Reiser deliberately took the time to remove the battery
and leave it behind in her car. Or someone else who knew him did this to
frame him. Honestly, why in the world would he remember to disconnect the
battery, but leave the phone behind? It would've made much more sense to
simply take the phone and then dispose of it, unless you wanted to
frame him.

IMO, this verdict is bogus, and there's a guilty person still walking around.
Or Nina Reiser is indeed in Russia.

The deal is, that bands make the bulk of their money from touring not from records. In fact, most bands make very little from album (or CD if you will)sales. By doing what they did, Metallica stood up for record company profits. Most of the mp3's available on Napster were crappy 128kbps rips. They were cool for checking out music that you might want to buy, but they weren't anything to shout home to mom about. As a result, in the napster years, CD sales were up. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/08/05/PK220163.DTL Thats right, Napster helped sell CD's. When the record companies shut down Napster, CD sales dropped like a rock and never recovered. Apple came out with iTunes and a new paradigm was born. The record companies lost control of the distribution channel. Metallica helped cause this, so I guess we should be grateful to them for causing the record companies downfall.

(sigh) if only he were around to combat spam today

That's funny, because I've seen people protest right outside the White House, and right outside Congress all the time. They're never fenced in or any such nonsense.

Well, it certainly is comforting to have an experienced observer like you on the scene to give everyone the skinny about what's really going on in the country. However for people who prefer to have their reportage from people who don't have their heads in the sand they need only do the most basic Google searches. Here are a few of many, many examples and they don't even include all the abuses by local and state agencies, particularly those that need to justify their lucrative homeland security funding.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/04/INGPQ40MB81.DTL&type=printable http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/protest/11419res20030923.html http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/21/washington/21protests.html

And, oh, oh, Fox News so IT MUST be true!

Next time, try again, but without the lies so much.

Don't worry, that appears to be only one of several statements you have made that have come back to bite your ass today.

An Obelisk that sends out a brain splitting shriek on all radio frequencies?

Or, perhaps the the mind of HAL itself which is what DARPA wants to become by way of Skynet?

Mebbe, mebbe not.

RS

I imagine there's some thinly-parsed definition about whether or not you're officially on US soil when you're entering Customs and, therefore, whether the Fifth Amendment could be said to apply.

Even if Google were covered by HIPPA, there are still problems. HIPPA is far from a complete solution, and it's even worse when the data is in Google's hands. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Google knows too much already.

The problem isn't necessarily that Google would misuse any healthcare data -- Google has too much at stake to do anything stupid like sell personal data to the highest bidder. The problem is that any concentration of that much data in one company's hands--from email to search history to medical records--makes a very inviting target for prying government eyes and malicious hackers/crackers.

Think about it -- Google is a multinational business and Yahoo! has shown that the pressure to bow to local demands is often overwhelming (see the Yahoo!-China debacle). Even if the US passed the most privacy-protective laws, there's nothing that would stop China from leaning very hard on Google to give up records for political activists that traveled between the US and China, or even for politicians or others.

Having that much data in one set of hands is mighty dangerous, even if Google itself isn't going to misuse it.

Actually the DEA itself has supplied statistics that confirm this. Here is one recent citation News article.

Purity is really the wrong term. What has gone up is strength, because a stronger product packs more value into a smuggled pound. I don't know what happened to prices during prohibition, but Prohibition definitively changed the nature from a land of beer drinkers into a cocktail party nation.

> What is needed to make your case is a statistical analysis that says C.S. majors earn less and are unable to find work.

Actually no, becuase that was not my case. A BSCS may be employable, but he or she would have been better off to have chosen a different major.

BSCSs may earn more than IT workers who have no degrees, in some cases. But, often there is little, in any, difference. Employers want experience, not degrees, look at the job ads.

Unlike doctors, lawyers, engineers, CPAs, nurses, or many other professions; a BSCS is not a hard requirement for most IT jobs. The degree has very little value relative to it's cost and difficulty. Add that to the aggressive offshoring of IT professionals, and it seems to me that a students time, effort, and money, would be better spent elsewhere.

And here is some data to back that up:

> "According to the AeA Cyberstates yearly reports, "High Tech" employment experienced job losses of 945,000 in the 2001 recession. Since this drop in employment, the "High Tech" sector has recovered about *300,000* jobs, but during the period in question, a probable *669,681* H-1B and L-1 computer-related workers were added to the workforce."

http://tinyurl.com/3pj2c3

> "Job security for IT professionals plummeted more than 10% from January to February of this year, far surpassing the average job security declines seen nationwide in a rigorous analysis of U.S. employment patterns."

http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/edu/2008/033108ed1.html

> "Gates claims that Microsoft needs more H-1b to hire new foreign graduates. But there are many U.S. graduates with several years of experience trying to find work at Microsoft and other employers - but Gates does not open these "entry level" positions to these Americans. Why? Experienced Americans are only considered for the positions that require an arbitrary 3 to 7 years of experience in several specific skills - then the Americans are summarily rejected for not meeting all of those arbitrary qualifications."

http://tinyurl.com/358alw

> "Dell Job Cuts to Top 8,800 as U.S. Spending Slows"
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aEO1GX_CC.8U&refer=us

> "Motorola to lay off 2,600 workers"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-fri-motorola-8k-jobcuts-motapr04,0,4870738.story

> "Chrysler Slashing Tech Jobs - The latest cutbacks affect 400 technology workers"
http://www.thecarconnection.com/blog/?p=1095

> "AMD axes 10% of its staff"
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36823/167/

> "Yahoo Profits Slip; To Cut 1,000 Jobs"
http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/01/yahoo-profits-s.html

> "Google lays off about 300 at DoubleClick"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/03/BUA2VUNAO.DTL&tsp=1

> "EBay Cuts 125 Jobs in Europe, North America"
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080320/ebay_jobs.html?.v=4

> "CNET to Lay Off 120"
http://www.redherring.com/Home/24032

> "At least 160 employees at CBS Corp. . . were let go"
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-stations9apr09,1,7495348.story

> Applied

You might be right. The city of Alameda tried it with traditional cable and failed miserably. It has a bond payment due soon and revenue won't even cover the interest.

Lowell, Michigan also tried and gave up in 2007 when it realized that the cost of upgrading the system to modern standards would far exceed the value.

Running a telecom service in an underserved area is more expensive and complex than many people think. Often, the area is underserved for a reason.

That said, maybe fiber will work. Or maybe it's worth it as a social value to the community, even if it's pricey. Fingers crossed for you.

The Golden Gate Bridge has emergency phones, which used to be marked "Roadside Assistance". For a while, they were marked "Roadside Assistance and Psychological Counseling". ("And how does having a flat tire make you feel?")

Now they're marked Emergency Phone and Crisis Counseling. The suicide rate varies from year to year, but nothing so far has affected it much one way or the other.

This article at the San Francisco Chronicle doesn't tell me exactly what is going on, but apparently there is the potential for 7 of 10 search results to return malware.

My mother heard about this on the TV news, but the above was all I could find. Anyone else have any more detail?

Considering that 20 percent of the U.S. corn crop was converted into 5 billion gallons of ethanol in 2006, (and that amount replaced only 1 percent of U.S. oil consumption). The prices of food products containing barley and wheat are also on the rise because farmers are switching to growing subsidized corn crops instead of other less profitable grain crops. Dwindling barley feedstock supplies also currently coincide with a pretty large reduction in other crops used as livestock feed, prices of which are also climbing. Thus another unintended consequence is the increase in the price of meat and dairy products consumers are currently experiencing as well. We haven't even started to talk about how diesel fuel prices are simultaneously causing food, feedstock, and crop prices to skyrocket.

Your examples are good, other than the Google doubleclick one. Google is not laying off these people because they are doing poorly, they're just not needed any more. It's fairly typical of acquisitions, you end up with a bunch of redundant employees and someone has to go.

Also, your link to newsoxy seems to be some kind of spammy site. A better article is here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/03/BUA2VUNAO.DTL&tsp=1

It could also be that the changes required to end up with an immune system like that are incredibly complex and may involve steps along the way that are not evolutionarily advantageous in most species, so the necessary sequence of evolutionary steps was not completed in most species.

The alligator does not seem to be entirely unique in this.

In my Emerging Infectious Diseases class, we learned that the tiny ticks that spread the Lyme disease bacterium are known to bite and feed on the blood of the western fence lizard. An interesting side effect of this behavior is that the blood of the lizard apparently clears the ticks' guts of Lyme bacteria. So this immune adaptation is apparently present in a number of lizard species.

Think, also, of the Komodo dragon, which walks around with a poisonous soup of microbes in its mouth at all times -- in fact, it actually uses this disease cocktail as an offensive weapon.

I'm all for this as long as the taxes fund education, especially those poor, underpaid UC Regents
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But seriously, I wouldn't mind massive tuition hikes for non-resident students. Too many damn foreigners(especially the ones from the midwest) are driving costs through the roof. It's tough being a native of the best state in the Union :)

Maybe someone can create a printer that prints using something other than plastic.

Wow, the Bush Administration has picked some real winners for that ol' Attorney General position. I really hoped they would replace Gonzales with someone who has a little more integrity. Unfortunately for the nation, it seems they're more interested in lapdogs who will parrot the Administration's version of reality, no matter the cost.

Moving on to Mukasey specifically, this little fib isn't the only time he's tried to distort reality. Just a few days ago, he stated there had been "a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan and we knew that it came to the United States. We didn't know precisely where it went."

The interesting thing about this comment is that it's impossible to know whether it's true. This supposed call was not referred to after 9/11, nor during the 9/11 Commission hearings, nor at any other time until last Thursday.

However, even if we give them the benefit of the doubt, his arguments that draw on this statement are lies. This is because he made this comment in support of increased surveillance, and also to support the despicable circumvention of the justice system with regard to telecom companies.

The lie is that "we knew about this call but we weren't able to do anything because only with this new, super-powered law can we do that". The surveillance laws at the time he says this call took place absolutely allowed the government to listen in on it. They didn't even need a warrant, as even under the older FISA law, warrants were not needed for calls that comes into the US from outside it.

He lied again when he voiced support for putting telecom companies above the law. Even though Mukasey was a federal judge, he claimed that the telco lawsuits would let the whole world know how our intelligence organizations operate.

Fellow Slashdotters, I hope you join me in saying: what the fuck?! We can't continue to let these clowns get away with shit like this. I admit I've been as lazy as most "concerned citizens" in the US seem to be lately, but seriously, I cannot allow my democracy to be flushed down the toilet by a bunch of arrogant fucks who think they can get away with whatever they want.

Furthermore, if you are unlucky enough to be homeless, once you are stabilized they will put you on a taxi to Skid Row. Oh yeah, the USA has the best dang health care in the world, dang it! Right? RIGHT???

No rich person would be where they are without the society around them, the infrastructure created by the government, the military that defends them (made up disproportionally, of course, with the lower and middle class), and the people who work for them. The redistribution of wealth acknowledges that people owe society for what it has given them, and must support it so that future generations can benefit from it as well.

Paying taxes to cover minor costs of infrastructure and military is reasonable. Taxing the wealthy to compensate the poor is a horrible idea. People should get off their asses, get jobs, and better themselves and their community. The government should not force the cost of the "betterment" on the top-earners while the bottom rung wallows in self-pity and reliance. The old "give a man a fish..." adage still applies. Taking money from the rich to pay the poor only teaches the poor that they don't have to work. Read this article: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/03/MNB4RN991.DTL and make sure you pay attention to the part where the woman says she doesn't want to get a job because if she earns more money, the government will subsidize less of her rent.

Your comparison to slavery is disgusting and horribly elitist.

You know what I find disgusting? The concept that people who actually put forth the required effort to make nice lives for themselves are resented and there's a weird misconception that they don't deserve to keep the fruits of their labor. Redistribution isn't slavery but certainly has a lot in common with theft and organized crime.

It may come as a surprise to you that not everybody grows up in a blue-blood family, and that social mobility is not perfect in the US. Redistributive tax systems allow for the strengthening of social mobility by ensuring that the lower class isn't always subject to abject poverty-

Now you sound like a spoiled college student railing against "the Haves". Do you really seem to think that taking away money from the upper class and giving it to the lower class will help make them socially mobile? More likely it will make them socially paralized. The redistibution will never give them enough affluence to become middle or upper class, but their dependence on it will retard any chance that they will ever earn middle/upper-class income on their own. Instead of making snide comments about "blue bloods", go visit the projects. Not just a ghetto suburb, but a genuine VLI/Section-8 project. When you look around and see children growing up in families that have been in the projects for multiple generations you will start to understand that redistribution is not a solution and usually just makes the problem worse.

that even if they are searching for a job or lose a job they do not lose their home and their entire life in the process.

It's called unemployment compensation. If you lose your job, you get a small stipend depending on how long you worked there and how much money you made. This is supposed to help you maintain your quality of life while searching for a new job. It's paid for by your old employer which means you (indirectly) earned it for yourself. This is a good thing. The moment somebody else has to start paying for your mortgage because you're unemployed, the system is flawed. If you can't afford a house, you should be renting. If you can't afford the big apartment, you should be in a smaller one. If you're in a tiny apartment and still can't afford to pay the rent, you need to stop turning your nose up at the minimum-wage fast food jobs. There are always ways to make the ends meet if people try hard enough and are wise with what they have.

Too many people are trying to pay for the leased car parked in the garage of the house that was just slightly too expensive so they could on

Citation Provided: Google search "Robert Liburdy" DOE "Lawrence Berkeley Lab" and Fraud. In case you're too lazy, here's a few links

http://www.ncpa.org/pd/budget/pd081299a.html

http://www.lbl.gov/Publications/Currents/Archive/Aug-13-1999.html#RTFToC4

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940CE3DB133EF937A15754C0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/07/13/MN242131.DTL

Yep, South Park is a major broadcast source on the i-hate-hippies wavelength.
I guess one way to make being gay seem cool is to point to a new target for all the kneejerk hate vibes they used to get.

"derka derka muhammad jihad" and all that.

Now here's a different (but also obnoxiously clever) gay dude who says the hippies were right!

• Both homeowner and rental vacancy rates are at all-time highs nationwide, see here.
• We are seeing year-over-year (factoring out seasonal differences) price declines nationwide, see here.
• Even supposedly immune markets are now seeing declines, see here (two years ago CAR would never have admitted it was even possible for prices to decline).

We are now going to see at least the same amount of declines. This is just beginning.

Two years ago, virtually no one would even admit that there was a housing bubble. One year ago, some were starting to acknowledge the bubble, but at the same time insisting that it wouldn't bust (and that even if it did, prices would not go down very much). Now, few would deny that there was a bubble, or that it did burst and cause price declines, however people still insist that the resulting shit-storm is confined to the "sub-prime" market. The layers are denial are getting peeled back one-by-one. The next one to go will be this ridiculous notion of it being purely a "sub-prime" problem.

And now polls of America's reaction to Obama's speech explaining his relationship to Wright and to racism show Obama ahead of Clinton, and the temporary drops from endless repetition of Wright's clips have been reversed by his explanation.

Maybe America really is reasonable enough to deserve a smart president for a change.

Got to wonder what this guys thinks?

http://cdn.sfgate.com/blogs/sounds/sfgate/chroncast/2007/01/23/CorrectMe-001-2.mp3

If so, Stanford has recently changed their financial aid program and will not charge you any tuition! See here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/20/MNABV5LHM.DTL&tsp=1

They won't listen. Remember that these are the hardcore 30% that keep approving of Bush's job. Even though he and his administration have been lying and distorting the truth for some time now. They won't read the links that show his illegal activities such as unprecedented overturning of the EPA.

These same people would vote for Bush again. With all the evidence out there, it makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Lol.. No. McCain has said water boarding is torture,Torture is illegal. He supported the last veto because he thinks that other government agencies should have more powers then to interrogate suspects then what the US military has. That is not an endorsement for torture and it is not support for water boarding. The only reason you can make the jump and read it that way is because you are selectively ignoring what McCain has said about it.

"I think I can show my record is clear. I said there should be additional techniques allowed to other agencies of government as long as they were not" torture. Here is what he has said about that vote and the bill in question. Now ignore everything you want to make your point but the facts don't lie. This is a quote pulled directly from a newspaper not particularly known for giving republicans a fair shake and they thought is was too egregious of an error to leave his statements out when talking about it in this hit piece of an article. The bill restricted the CIA and NSA's ability to interrogate suspects to the same limitations placed on untrained military personnel. Not agreeing with that says nothing to agreeing with water boarding or torture. He claims that the military is precluded from certain non torture related methods of interrogating suspects and doesn't want to limit the CIA and such to those same limits.

The information is at your fingertips. It shouldn't be hard to fact check before you form an opinion or in the least spout it to people who also have the information at their finer tips.

The Straight Talk Express, has taken a turn to the right, he is against it except when he is for it, he has already weighed in in favor of Bush vetoing the bill:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/21/MNJDV5S7S.DTL&type=politics

This was only the beginning. Cant wait until next holiday season.

Source: S.F. Chronicle

So let me tell you how soon I'll be dealing with BoA. Cash a check, go to jail? No thank you.

DT