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Link pimping day!! My dailies are sinfest and suburbantribe

since God's marketshare is expected to dwindle to the point of Him not being able to support a lawsuit against Microsoft.

Reminds me of the time the devil has his lawyers write to god threatening to sue because of a hole in the fence between heaven and hell. God writes back, "Being without counsel...."

ROTFLOL

hey look there's a sale at the God shop!
http://sinfest.net/d/20050611.html

"And even among those that are, they're all a rip off of the same thing. Have any "popular" online comics NOT done the whole "tech support sucks HAHAHAHAH!" thing yet? Have any of them not done "end users suck and I hate working in tech support HAHAHAHA!" ... Most of them are trying really hard to be User Friendly, which itself isn't all that bad. I think a lot of people just have the idea that what they do is so unique and remarkable that THE MAN -- *SOME* MAN -- must be HOLDIN' THEM DOWN."

Your exposure to webcomics must be rather minimal. "Most" webcomics are ripping off UF? All the "popular" webcomics riff on tech support? Hardly. While a number of the long-running strips do takes on geek humor, that's understandable. When they started, us nerds were the only ones reading webcomics, and they were geared to their audience.

Take a look at The Bunny. How about Chopping Block? Randy Milholland's Something Positive, Sinfest, and Penny Arcade wouldn't make it into newspaper syndication without a major change in theme and writing. None of them ever mimicked User Friendly, and there are many more like them than there are copies of Iliad's work.

The sad thing is that this rant is seen as "insightful," when it's really just shallow and mis-informed. These folks aren't complaining that they're not superstars via their work. They went off on their own so that they could create, be rewarded for their creativity, and not have to give up a large chunk of the returns on said creativity to a third party. There's a whole passel of middle-men out there who latch themselves onto artists, and drain them dry, turn them into "product", and reap the lion's share of the rewards. Need evidence? Look at the releases from the major record labels - crap, mostly. Hollywood is busy making a ghetto-version "Honeymooners," re-hashing "Bewitched", and remaking every moderately successful flick from the 60's and 70's - they're out of "product" and unwilling to take risk, so they're recycling the same swill. The comics syndicates have been playing it safe for years, distributing humorless pabulum while bleeding away the intellectual property of the original artists. Many of the old-school comics guys went broke while the syndicates raked in the bucks on their output.

Not every artist is a prima donna. Most of them are just trying to make a living without getting raped in the process. It's something that every independent business person must deal with, but it's worse for creative folks because there's an entire industry solely based on getting as big a cut as possible from their work.

That said, I've gotten regular chuckles from:

• Sexy Losers (NOT work safe)
• Sinfest
• Order of the Stick (thanks to someone on /. last time comics were discussed)

Only Sinfest is a daily strip. The Sexy Losers is updated... apparently whenever the guy has time. Order of the Stick a M-W-F strip.

Hey, I don't know if someone else has mentioned it or not, but check out Sinfest.

Some people disagree

(Note: sinfest is a comic strip; safe for work.)

I'd have to vote for Sinfest.

If Sexy Losers ran a bit more frequently, I'd vote for it. It brings crude humor to a whole new level. :)

If you are religious and you enjoy Tatsuya Ishida's daily CONGRATULATIONS you are enlightened.

I don't remember Sinfest ever missing a day, but I've only been following it a couple of years.

Hmmm, Tatsuya might not be happy about me slashdotting his site... um, here's a google cache of the first comic, that'll scare some of y'all off.

If you are religious and you enjoy Tatsuya Ishida's daily CONGRATULATIONS you are enlightened.

I don't remember Sinfest ever missing a day, but I've only been following it a couple of years.

Hmmm, Tatsuya might not be happy about me slashdotting his site... um, here's a google cache of the first comic, that'll scare some of y'all off.

Best comic ever which is, of course, Dilbert, updates daily, 7 times a day, for the past few years... There isn't a webcomic out there that could compare to its greatness.

I beg to differ: SinFest

You just can't talk to artists

Somehow, this sinfest comic comes to mind when thinking about the licensing contract with SCO and the "your money back" concept...

No contest...
Apples win!

"Martians invade Earth after receiving intelligence that Bush was plotting a Mission to Mars. Although they find no Weapons of Mars Destruction they insist we had the capacity to build them. Alien war profiteers reopen Alcatraz, rename it Abu Probe, proceed to "interrogate" humans." - Tatsuya Ishida, http://sinfest.net/

To be Anonymous, or not... that is the question.
http://www.sinfest.net/d/20040929.html/

Tatsuya Ishida also suggests:

"Martians invade Earth after receiving intelligence that Bush was plotting a Mission to Mars. Although they find no Weapons of Mars Destruction they insist we had the capacity to build them. Alien war profiteers reopen Alcatraz, rename it Abu Probe, proceed to 'interrogate' humans."

Though they've been compared, I feel sorry for the oranges.

Apples and Oranges

Sinfest 2004-02-28.

When reading this, I was reminded of a fitting comic I had read some time back

Reminds me of this.

Heh. nice. I'll have to find the actual paper. I wonder what they reduced it from.

Anyway, that article reminds me one of my favorite resistances by Tatshuya Ishida.


Whenever I play solitaire I play for world peace. Cuz otherwise it's a meaningless waste of time and I hate to waste my time. So I up the stakes. Make it interesting. Every move I make can be the difference between global harmony and nuclear annihilation. The fate of all mankind hinges on whether I go with the seven of spades or the jack of hearts. It's very intense. I sit there for hours sometimes planning my strategy. I have meetings with imaginary generals and military advisors. I take lengthy breaks to the patio, or, as I like to call it, Camp David. I can't tell you how many times I've blown up the world. It really pisses me off. I mean, not to sound like Miss America or nothing, but I'm all about the world peace. And when those cards fall into place and I disarm all them nukes and establish the Pax Tatsuya and usher in the Golden Age of Peace and Prosperity, I rejoice with all humanity and then move on to Minesweeper. Which, of course, I play for the rain forests.
-T.

Heh. nice. I'll have to find the actual paper. I wonder what they reduced it from.

Anyway, that article reminds me one of my favorite resistances by Tatshuya Ishida.


Whenever I play solitaire I play for world peace. Cuz otherwise it's a meaningless waste of time and I hate to waste my time. So I up the stakes. Make it interesting. Every move I make can be the difference between global harmony and nuclear annihilation. The fate of all mankind hinges on whether I go with the seven of spades or the jack of hearts. It's very intense. I sit there for hours sometimes planning my strategy. I have meetings with imaginary generals and military advisors. I take lengthy breaks to the patio, or, as I like to call it, Camp David. I can't tell you how many times I've blown up the world. It really pisses me off. I mean, not to sound like Miss America or nothing, but I'm all about the world peace. And when those cards fall into place and I disarm all them nukes and establish the Pax Tatsuya and usher in the Golden Age of Peace and Prosperity, I rejoice with all humanity and then move on to Minesweeper. Which, of course, I play for the rain forests.
-T.

People who buy and display them are beneath contempt -- they pollute the memory of The Greatest Comic Strip Evar Bar None.

I have to say, I like Calvin and Hobbes. However, if I were gonna vote for the Greatest Comic Strip Ever Bar None, I'd hope for instant runoff voting, so I could vote for Sexy Losers and Sinfest.

It's at www.sinfest.net.

SinFest

RedMeat

Ok, RedMeat is in a few papers, but it still rocks.

Jaysyn

IMHO one of the funniest on-line comics around.

Sinfest By Tatsuya Ishida

The battle of God, The Dragon, and Google!

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2000-01 -31&res=l (c'mon! - that's funny)

http://www.sinfest.net/d/20030624.html

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2000-01 -26&res=l /t

When i wake up in the morning, I crack open the daily newspapaper and.... wait that's not true. Lets start again. When I wake up in the morning I turn on my computer, and check out... webcomics.

Angst Technology, Ctrl Alt Del, Dilbert, Errant Story, Force Monkeys, Fox Trot, goats, Life of Riley, Mac Hall, Megatokyo, Misfire, Penny Arcade!, Sinfest, Something Positive, and finally Wendy.

Then, after my daily webcomic barage (not to say that these all update on a daily basis. Some are good [ like ctrl alt del, and penny arcade ] and update regularly. others... well...) I frequent other sites, for information.

Slashdot of course (not linking it...)
Gamespot
Games workshop,
and
Unconventional Conformity.

Other than that, I have a few sites i goto every so often. Or ones which i check throughout the day. But they become less important than the comics.
-Gharbad

Here's the sinfest link for those who don't know Tatsuya Ishida.

Sorry, I mean to link to sinfest.NET not COM. Thats what i get for not checking my links.

Slick vs commercials, ads, teasers, plugs (or just the image if you don't want to see the site's ads).

Slick vs commercials, ads, teasers, plugs (or just the image if you don't want to see the site's ads).

nuff said.

• Dilbert
• User Friendly
• Sinfest
• Penny Arcade
• MegaTokyo
• Real Life
• PvP

Tad William's Shadowland was serialized but wasn't pay-per-chapter. There was a one time fee associated with it (I can't remember how much I payed but it wasn't a great amount, definately less than a hardcover, probably more than a paperback). The first couple of chapters were and are free.

I had never heard of Tad William's till a friend turned me on to his Otherland series, which I devoured. I still haven't read his other books but I did look up his website to find out when the next book in the series would occur.

That's where I found out about his Shadowmarch experiment. He was making an honest effort at it, unlike Steven King, so I decided to sign up.

I think this fails for one reason: The average internet user isn't willing to pay a meaningful amount for content. If you've got old material which isn't selling well anyway you can probably make a bit of money. If you've got new material you'll probably never make enough to justify the time and effort writing it, assuming you're trying to make a living rather than supplement a living.

Marketing is probably part of his problem, the only time I saw ads was when my ad-free subscription to Sluggy Freelance cookie would expire. I think I've probably seen the ad pop up a couple times on sinfest as well.

Check out Stay Free! Magazine or Adbusters. If you can find issues locally, buy one or two. I subscribed for a year (that was enough -- the ranting does get tiresome), and it was enough to jolt my sensibilities just a bit. I'd actually rate Stay Free! much better than Adbusters, as the articles are more researched and meaningful.

You will come to realize that TV is a medium for ads (these rags cover consumerism in all respects, not just TV), and , as such, you are being used as a consumer, not graciously being given entertainment. This might seem obvious, but until one takes a critical look at it, you don't necessarily know just how bad it is.

I enforced severe TV rationing in our household 1-1/2 years ago. Guess what? The kids: can actually entertain themselves now (they can uctaully use crayons and Lincoln Logs creatively); don't pester us for soda and candy-coated cereals, unlike most of the un-tamed kids we encounter at the local grocery; like to play outside! Me and my Wife: read more books and magazines; listen to more music; talk more.

I'm not saying that TV can't be used in moderation. Hell, my wife and I love a good Trek episode, Good Eats, Croc Hunter, but we don't pay for cable access (and wouldn't if we had to), and we watch maybe 4 hours a TV a week (movies not included, but those are rare). Sometimes I simply want to drool and not think about anything, but at least I ackowledge that's exactly what I do when I watch the boob-tube.

Like a lot of things, moderation is the key, and everyone must decide for themselves just how much is too much. However, I don't think the average population really can make a healthy decision about what "too much" is. And goes for a lot of stuff, not just TV. I'm not trying to be elitist here, but rather recognize some societal problems. My family has pulled itself out of a lot of the ruts I see most people in, and I wish more people would follow for their own sake.

I think this SinFest thread sums it up nicely. :)

Watch Dawson's Creek.

This is also, come to think of it, very obvious, but a comic strip doe not rely on the quality of the drawing (I like the simplistic style anyway), but the jokes. If you don't like the jokes, you have a valid complaint, go someplace else.. but don't flame about Illiad's drawing.

When the jokes are stale, lame, or just plain awful (as UF has been for the past 3+ years), there's little left to keep a person interested but the art. And UF never had that, either. However, you're right. I don't like UF, and I don't read it. I prefer to waste my online time reading better strips, like Penny Arcade, Goats, Diesel Sweeties, 8-bit Theater, Sinfest, and way too many more to list here, all of which have (IMNSHO) better jokes, better storylines, better art, better attitudes, and better execution than UF. Sure, not all of those are daily strips, but some are. Sinfest is. Tatsuya Ishida is able to pump out teh funney (no, that's not misspelled) every day, with amazing art to go along with it. I would call T's art "simplistic", in that it's generally all various lines, with just enough shading to suggest backgrounds and such. Illiad's art, on the other hand, is what i would call sloppy.

From the refferenced page:

Date last revised: 31 March 1999

And they only talk about the 2.2.x kernels. Kinda old, man. There's been a lot of work done with the 2.4.x breeds (most back-ported to 2.2.x) that make SMP a God Send (TM).

Also:

AMD and Cyrix do not support SMP.

Hmmm...

I've been reading Sluggy for a while now, it really is a good comic. Though lately I haven't been reading it as much. Instead I've been reading alot of Flem! Penny Arcade! and Sinfest. I'm sure most of us have heard of Penny arcade, and possibly Sinfest. Flem however is a little more unkown and uncommon. It's good though. I really do enjoy it, heh.

Here are some links.
http://flem.dhs.org/comic/new.html Flem!
http://www.sinfest.net Sinfest
http://www.penny-arcade.com Penny-Arcade

as SinFest demonstrates.
--

I knew this dude from Metropolis
Who's mightier than all of us
The villains they hate him,
The media chase him
And that's why he stays anonymous!

This utopian "lack of privacy" does not "engender honesty" any more than the conditioning of Alex in Anthony Burgess's Clockwork Orange engendered in him lawfulness, kindness or respect for his fellow man. The same way The Brave New World engendered contentment in Bernard Marx.

I don't even think your scenario is that accurate. Not without some Huxleyan conditioning.
Any sociologist will tell you that privacy is a basic human need. Haven't you ever wanted to "just get away from it all"??

If it meant that I got to choose who the money went to - that is, that it went to the content creator and not an agent, distributor, middleman, or some other breed of fuckwit five-percenter - then yes, yes, a thousand times YES!

I don't think the problem is that - as one poster put it - that the 'Net will become one giant pay site - content creators should get paid for good work. The problem will be keeping scumbag content-control freaks (Sony, RIAA, MPAA, the U.S. Congress) from mucking it up and taking a cut.

I think it would be the ideal way, though, to pay for good independent content like Penny Arcade, Sinfest, and even Jennicam - and all the other content-based sites I like, but for whom I'm not willing to enter into an expensive revolving subscription agreement.

We'll see if it actually happens...

OK,
- B
--

Well... The main reason that syndication doesn't happen much to web comics is either because the syndicates want things to be very 'public oriented' which PA and other comics, such as Sinfest, sorta aren't. Everyone likes them, but no one really wants their kids reading them. The other thing would just be that the comics don't want to censor themselves to make money. Most people have another job (take Piro over at Megatokyo, he has a day job and draws the comic every monday wednesday and friday.) The webcomic-folk (for the most part) do the whole shpiel because they like doing it, not because they want to make loads and loads of money from it. Heh.... Well, you've found one of the other readers from before keenspace... Me. Yeah, we always have trouble getting ian to update and such, but often college gets in the way a bit. We're moving to Machall.com soon, with much better scripts and such than what we've got a keenspace, so things should run smoother. So Matt actually got a camera and was able to get the Crocodile Hunter there to annoy your brother? ;) -MuShoo (Mac Hall Webmaster)

LOL, that other online comic looks like it was created by a pre-schooler. ;p~

There all all kinds of comics out these days where the art and story exceed anythign you will find in the newspapers:
Sinfest
Explotation now
MegaTokyo
And for the 18+ crowd: The Thin H Line
Of course I'd never expect a major newspaper to carry anything positive about the Thin H Line. :)

Down that path lies madness. On the other hand, the road to hell is paved with melting snowballs.

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