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SourceForge says yes
> 43% will never use GPLv3. How does this compare to the number who will never use GPLv2 either (ie, the BSD folks)?
We might get some numbers from SourceForge:
There are currently 105950 projects registered.
Of those, 68143 are using the GPL and 11979 are using the LGPL, for a total of 80122 projects.
The remaining 25828 use different licenses, which I am too bored to break down.
43% of 105950 projects is 45558.
If we assume that only people who currently use the GPL (and not LGPL) will consider GPLv3, then only 7751 of them will be opposed to it, or 11%, which is certainly less. If the above assumption is true, it just means that the GPL camp will lose 11% of developers, or 25% if you include the LGPL people.
> Only 6% have adopted GPLv3. Because really, what's the rush?
When you release a new version of your product and only 6% of your customers decide to upgrade, it might be a good time to fire the person responsible for it. -
We went through this one months ago
I work for one of the many companies impacted. Several months ago we noticed the volume of complaints about mobile content downloads not working had risen.
We looked, and they were all Vodafone UK customers. We looked on our server and found all accesses were now by Mozilla Firefox.
Our site has to deliver content specific to each make and model of handset. This is to due to the miryad of capabilities the handsets offer and we want each customer to receive the best version of the product. We use http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ to help with this, armed with an XML overlay maintained in-house reflecting certain "real-world" situations we are aware of. We have gigs of essentially duplicate content to this end.
If you suggest the User-Agent should not be a factor here, you clearly aren't earning money in the mobile applications marketplace. It is essential.
We traced the IP address range being used to a German company and asked them to explain what was happening. A very nice, but exasperated, chap responded that Vodafone had outsourced their mobile internet gateway to them but had failed to supply the whitelist of acknowledged content download sites. We asked what list, and were told we were obviously another company who'd not been told. We submitted a list of domains that we ship content from and basically had to wait for the User-Agent to be switched back on again.
Meanwhile our customers were being politely told on our download sites that their phone wasn't supported. Which isn't particularly helpful to either party.
Several days later the mobile User-Agent became visible and our download sites appeared from the consumer to have been fixed. Not our fault, we changed nothing. Consumer doesn't know that though, they wanted their ringtone.
Unfortunately, now manufacturers and operators have added a new trick to have to deal with. They've begun shipping phones with serial numbers and firmware revisions in the User-Agent string. This means we now have a massive computational problem with best-matching. There appears to be no reason behind it, no justification. It just makes download sites break frustrating the consumer.
Oh, and while I'm in rant mode - those of you who think the online shop selling the ringtones get the full GBP1.50 revenue from that billed text message, think again. We're lucky to see 90p of it, far less from Virgin customers. The mobile operators take a huge chunk of our money. The same is true when you dial a premium rate number (say GBP1.50 per minute) from a mobile phone and see you've been billed GBP2.50 or GBP3.50 or more - it's not us Guv' - it's the operators/networks. -
Re:Alternatives, in that case?
The list misses Pivot and all those Blosxom variants and many others. You have plenty of choice.
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Re:My one experience with Vista
For the record, you may want to recommend Xming as an alternative to eXcursion. It's actively developed, open, and based on x.org code. It is, however, often incompatible with older X based apps.
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Re:User-Agent = breakage
wurfl.sourceforge.net maintains an XML file with LOTS of devices and an exhaustive set of capabilities.
And you always code for the lowest common denominator WAP browser. Features are added for specific capabilities, the most obvious being screen size. I'm all for non-fixed width layout, but it does make sense to fix the width for WAP browsers.
I was also skeptical until I actually designed a site for WAP and the usual browsers from the same codebase.
I agree that WAP sites are dumbed down, but sometimes that is really cool if all you want is the content. And I don't redirect you to a different site if you visit http://wap.bla/ from Firefox.
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Re:4.7.1 was the good one, not 6.0.4
Just do what I do - switch sharing off in iTunes and install Firefly Media Server and encourage others to do the same. It's an iTunes 4.7-style music server, which means people can download from it using things like OurTunes and, of course, it doesn't have the 5 connections/day limit.
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Re:Yes...Ever check the HTTP headers on a request to the Slashdot webserver?
There's always a different, random Futurama quote in an X-Fry: or X-Bender: header. (Bender|Fry|Leela) -
Re:Promises mean nothing
Those specifications, promised nearly ten years ago, never arrived to my knowledge. If they ever did, it happened long after the G200 was obsolete.
They did arrive, and for the G400 as well. The first driver to make use of this information was the Utah-GLX module thingy for XFree86 3 - that John Carmack helped with their development. I think the specifications for some particular, programmable section of the cards (WARP setup engine?) weren't released, but microcode blobs for the necessary functionality were.
I think the G200/G400 were among the first to be supported in whatever the 'proper', non-hacky drivers for XFree86 4 were called, but from my experience with a G400, the open-source 3D drivers weren't always that stable.
I moved on to Nvidia after that too - stable closed-source drivers for Linux were much nicer than unstable, open-source ones... -
Re:Total Annihilation
Maybe. Maybe not. It depends.
Either way, it doesn't matter and we win. If the kernel doesn't fork, then probably some kind of compromise has been reached that brings the best of both worlds. If the kernel does fork, we get two independent projects, perhaps each geared at different requirements.
This has happened before. Firefox started as a fork of Mozilla Seamonkey. The needs of embedded developers have spawned small Linux kernels like ELKS. Ximian started as a GNOME fork that eventually was merged back in. Then there's egcs vs. gcc, and so forth...the list goes on and on.
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Re:thinking about something new? think again
Pycaml is a Python binding for OCaml. From their website:
"If there's a native library you want to use that has a python wrapping, for very little extra cost, it can have an ocaml binding. This also means that ocaml code can import pure python modules and use them, making it ideal for using to implement test-case code on event processing systems. [Pycaml also] allows ocaml code to embed the python interpreter, define modules, classes, structures, etc."
If you want to use C and/or C++ libraries in OCaml, you can use SWIG. See SWIG's OCaml docs for details.
As for LDAP in particular, there's OcamLDAP. OCaml has many other native libraries. Check out the the OCaml Hump. -
Re:thinking about something new? think again
Pycaml is a Python binding for OCaml. From their website:
"If there's a native library you want to use that has a python wrapping, for very little extra cost, it can have an ocaml binding. This also means that ocaml code can import pure python modules and use them, making it ideal for using to implement test-case code on event processing systems. [Pycaml also] allows ocaml code to embed the python interpreter, define modules, classes, structures, etc."
If you want to use C and/or C++ libraries in OCaml, you can use SWIG. See SWIG's OCaml docs for details.
As for LDAP in particular, there's OcamLDAP. OCaml has many other native libraries. Check out the the OCaml Hump. -
Re:The problem with AO
So, looking at the game market, what game titles have been out there that have any level of nudity that can be considered an artistic addition to the story, rather than as a very poor way to try to sell more copies to the young male audience?
Ying Yan! X-Change Alternative, which, ironically, is a porn game. The sex scenes and sexual elements in it are absolutely vital to the plot.
Of course a case may be made that it doesn't really count, being a choose-your-own-adventure rather than what's usually considered a game, but that's a debate for another time.
Star Control 2 / Ur-Quan Masters also has a sex scene, but the cowards censored it by making the screen black out. It isn't quite vital to the plot like X-Change's scenes are, but fits it nonetheless.
Lastly, Nethack has sex scenes with succubi. They are every bit as graphical as the rest of the game. They can have a dramatic effect on the player character, and may mean the difference between winning or losing the game.
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Re:thinking about something new? think again
You should be able to do both with OCaml.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ocamldap/
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Re:He was incompetent...!
PHPPgAdmin, it's similar to phpMyAdmin. I believe ODBC is also supported so you could even use Access (yuck) as a frontend.
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28k8 should be enough for everybody
For remote administration of windows the rdp protocol performs adequately on 28k8, there is an equivalent project for linux called freenx. Forget about VNC, it's to painful at these speeds (perhaps 640x480 in fuzzy mode will work).
Ofcourse you can install ssh with compression for terminal access.
For faster internet browsing you can install a proxy on a dedicated faster line someplace else that resizes images and gzips webpages on the fly such as webcleaner. You can also use mobile versions of internet pages for lower bandwidth, for example diggm8
Put all technical documentation on your local system for fast and easy access. For example wikipedia database dumps can be downloaded and used offline.
Use pop3/imap offline mail clients instead of webmail clients to check your e-mail, leave large attachments on the server.
Forget about VOIP, just use the phone or instant messaging.
Forget about YouTube, just program your digital video recorder one week ahead for all the interesting shows. -
Moglen v Federal Judge White
Moglen and various other commentators have argued that open-source licenses are not contracts, but a Federal Judge disagreed earlier this year. Perhaps the Judge's opinion has more weight?
In the model railroad case, when they tried to get an injunction based on _admitted_ misuse of open-source files, the Judge said that it could contract law, not copyright law, was relevant.
The decision is here: http://jmri.sourceforge.net/k/docket/158.pdf (See particularly page 9)
Some news article said they were appealing, so the next thing to happen is an appeals court decision. That might be an important precedent, and I hope the open-source community helps these guys win it. -
Re:The vulnerability is in Reader not the PDF form
Skim on OS X. Does forms, embedded notes, highlighting, the works. It's much more powerful than Preview and only takes a tiny bit longer to start up. It seems to be updated very frequently.
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Re:Thief and thievery
http://www.thieveryut.com/
ThieveryUT is great. It's a little bit fast-paced to get the thief experience down, though. OTOH, I suppose it has to be, or else it would suck to be a guard. :)
On a related note:
Check out this work-in-progress: http://sourceforge.net/projects/opde -- the OpenDarkEngine. It's currently pretty much a game framework and map viewer, but it's moving along handily since the new head dev took over and switched the system to use the Ogre rendering engine. Object rendering was just added a couple of days ago, scripting and properties work is next, and they could use help if there are any good coders out there. Screenshots here: http://darkfate.ru/index.cgi?thumbs=files/projects/opde/screenshots (the "screenshot object" images are the most recent. Yeah, they could use a sorting or dating system on that site.)
I should note that this will work for Thief 1, Thief Gold, Thief 2, AND System Shock 2. (Consider it like a spiritual successor to the failed System Shock Hack Project, which did a lot of work to decipher the various file formats.) And ---YES IT RUNS ON LINUX.--- Mac will probably work, too.
There's also the Dark Mod, a Thiefish mod for Doom 3 that's underway. http://www.thedarkmod.com/ It won't run the original levels, though, so you'll have to wait for remakes to be made, and all the excellent fan missions will be super-extra-no-way unless OpDE is finished.. Good news is they've done a lot of work on recreating Thief's sound propagation, and this work could probably be shared with OpDE, and AI and sound are the two big hurdles for any Thief remake.
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Re:Here's what is wrong - sucky tookits
How about the Shadowrun: Awakened project? It's a 3D MMORPG, uses C#, and the popular XNA toolkit. While the change to XNA requires a focus on Windows, it *is* open source.
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Re:gnome online desktop?
Or you could try galeon.
Configurable smart bookmark searches integrated into the toolbar, slim, sleek interface (their motto is "the web and only the web"), better configurability than epiphany and it integrates seamlessly into GNOME.
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Re:Not for freea lot of programmers only use a part of Gnome (GTK+) instead of using the whole environment Yep. I did that. Being able to use only what you need is a strength, not a hindrance. I wrote an app for asterisk that my company needed. They needed it to run in windows, so I built it in GTK+ and only GTK+ so that I could port it to win32 without going crazy trying to deal with porting gnome stuff as well.
If (and I'm assuming it is not the case and if you wanted to you could use only QT) you must use the entire KDE framework to build an app, well that locks you in to using all of KDE's libraries doesn't it? [I've never programmed for KDE so I'm not saying this is the case]
What if I only wanted to use GTK+ and say, some other specific part of GNOME, like GConf, but that's all I wanted? I can do that, thanks to the modular way the libraries are set up in GNOME/GTK+. Hell, I can even use stuff like Pango without using all of GTK+! If you ask me, they did it right. Yelling at the GNOME guys because you need to include 5 libraries and 5 header files instead of one just tells me you're a lazy programmer. -
Re:The Force is NOT With Wii.
It's an extremely impressive device. Oh, and if you can get a sensor bar (third party models exist), there are drivers to get Wiimotes working on PCs, albeit experimentally at the moment. In the medium term I can see PC games being released that support them.
I actually use Remote Buddy to control my Mac mini (which is hooked up to my HD beamer) with a Wii remote. It's become my main media box (think TVShows and remote-controlled iTunes via Chicken of the VNC) and gaming console (think MAME). The Wii Remote + Mac mini combination is simply awesome.
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Re:The Force is NOT With Wii.
It's an extremely impressive device. Oh, and if you can get a sensor bar (third party models exist), there are drivers to get Wiimotes working on PCs, albeit experimentally at the moment. In the medium term I can see PC games being released that support them.
I actually use Remote Buddy to control my Mac mini (which is hooked up to my HD beamer) with a Wii remote. It's become my main media box (think TVShows and remote-controlled iTunes via Chicken of the VNC) and gaming console (think MAME). The Wii Remote + Mac mini combination is simply awesome.
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Re:Here is a list of great open source games...
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Re:In order...
So are these guys-http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop.
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Re:Dons the asbestos suit....
IMHO, it surpassed it with 2.14. At least that's when I switched from KDE (after using it since '99 and was very anti-Gnome). At this point I don't want to go back to KDE. Gnome makes so much more sense as everything is organized more logically, the button/control overload is gone, the dialogs are great (ie, the file dialog, I love having my network and usb drives listed by name on the side instead of having to click on media or browse down to
/media). That and Clearlooks is beautiful and looks so much nicer than any theme I've been able to find for KDE (don't say Klearlook, those buttons are freakishly large, select boxes are tiny, and everything else is way out of proportion, polyester (with tweaking) is the only one that doesn't make my eyes hurt).
Now if only Gnome had a browser that's not Mozilla-based (Epiphany counts as Mozilla based) and actually follows the desktop settings and looks and feels native... -
Re:Web 3.0 (or 3D) ?
Not exactly what you described, but you might enjoy Robocode.
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Linux Monitoring
It seems to me that you can always install some software like that yourself. Once I lost my laptop in my own house. Since I have ipcheck in a cron job, updating my laptop's IP address on DynDns, I just SSHed into it and made it play loud sounds until I found it under the bed. (I don't answer questions about what it was doing there)
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More interested in...
To be honest, i was more interested in seeing where this got: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openchange/
It looked pretty good and has some decent names behind it (now, that wasnt always the case). Plus its kinda functional in both directions in that they were bringing out a native exchange connector for evolution.
I remember writing a whole concept article about a replacement for mail a while ago based on the whole tagging concept but could never get it started. The motivation though was really about the lack of collab suites that exist in the OSS arena. I dont really consider Zimbra to be all that OSS myself though. -
Re:"Open Source"?
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A few questions about PCC
1. Is is C++0x ready?
2. Does it work with FreeGLUT or MESA for OpenGL support?
3. Can it make ice cream? -
Re:Boids
One of the seminal analytic papers in this area is
Tamás Vicsek, András Czirók, Eshel Ben-Jacob, and Inon Cohen ``Novel type of phase transition in a system of self-driven particles'' Phys. Rev. Lett. 75 1226 (1995)
Another great paper:
Couzin, I.D., Krause, J., James, R., Ruxton, G.D. & Franks, N.R. (2002) Collective memory and spatial sorting in animal groups Journal of Theoretical Biology 218, 1-11.
In the above, a phenomenon called "collective memory" was exhibited in a model similar to Reynolds'. Individual members of the group have no explicit memory, but the group as a whole exhibits behavior that differs depending on the previous state of the group - in effect a "group memory".
Also, a shameless plug for my own software/API designed for similar simulations: glSwarm. Admittedly in a very early state of development, but functional enough to play with. -
Re:Perhaps he Should Avoid Windows, as well.
Vista supports MPEG-2 out of the box.
Media Player Classic has a built-in support for MPEG-2.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/
You can install a DirectShow version of ffmpeg (ffdshow).
http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
If you want bells and whistles Elecard decoder costs $25.
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Re:Perhaps he Should Avoid Windows, as well.
Vista supports MPEG-2 out of the box.
Media Player Classic has a built-in support for MPEG-2.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/
You can install a DirectShow version of ffmpeg (ffdshow).
http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
If you want bells and whistles Elecard decoder costs $25.
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Re:Interesting...
"Linux can't even run "Hello World" without GNU System components like GNU Libc."
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Re:What's the draw?ex-Rio Karma owners who want Radio, USB mass storage, full support for Linux, gapless, colour screen, Ogg Vorbis - should really look at the Trekstor Vibez. It has the same software and sounds excellent - it's like a 2007 Karma.
If you just want to connectup the old karma to linux then look no further than the splendid karma on linux project. It's amazing what some seriously clever people, fuse and some helpful hints from Sigmatel folks can produce. it integrates with Amarok as well!
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Re:service pack
First do you have a personal firewall on either side ? Look into your iptables on the Linux server side, do "sudo iptables -L" and make sure the rules are empty. If not stop the iptables service. On the mac side look into the "Sharing" system preference tab and disable the firewall.
Next, have you tried to export your Linux disks as Apple File Shares? I do that now instead of NFS, it works fine.
You need to setup your exports with netatalk, and advertise them like "bonjour/zeroconf" shares through Avahi. Works great, easy to setup. Your disks will show up in the Network->My Network section of the finder. Both avahi and netatalk are most likely already available via your favourite distribution.
Last thing, is there a route between your two machines ? If the mac mini connects to your network wirelessly, this can be a bit challenging to setup. Can you ssh to one machine to the next ? Either way ?
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Re:Pure gaming bliss.
Well, I already posted about the OpenDarkEngine project*, so I might as well point out this little doohickey: http://q-gears.sourceforge.net/
Like OPDE, Q-Gears is also an engine recreation. The goal is to make FF7 playable on a modern PC (Linux and Mac included), as well as provide a framework for building other games in a similar vein. So far the first mission is playable, so it's progressing quite well.
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Re:Hardware Architecture is different now
I haven't been in touch with the fan scene but I doubt you can get Thief 2 to play on Vista and even on Xp with the latest drivers if you have a high end videocard that has been out for over a year now.
Well, there is this work-in-progress: http://sourceforge.net/projects/opde -- the OpenDarkEngine. It's currently pretty much a game framework and map viewer, but it's moving along handily since the new head dev took over and switched the system to use the Ogre rendering engine. Object rendering was just added a couple of days ago, scripting and properties work is next, and they could use help if there are any good coders out there. Screenshots here: http://darkfate.ru/index.cgi?thumbs=files/projects/opde/screenshots (the "screenshot object" images are the most recent. Yeah, they could use a sorting or dating system on that site.)
I should note that this will work for Thief 1, Thief Gold, Thief 2, AND System Shock 2. (Consider it like a spiritual successor to the failed System Shock Hack Project, which did a lot of work to decipher the various file formats.) And ---YES IT RUNS ON LINUX.--- Mac will probably work, too.
There's also the Dark Mod, a Thiefish mod for Doom 3 that's underway. http://www.thedarkmod.com/ It won't run the original levels, though, so you'll have to wait for remakes to be made, and all the excellent fan missions will be super-extra-no-way unless OpDE is finished.. Good news is they've done a lot of work on recreating Thief's sound propagation, and this work could probably be shared with OpDE, and AI and sound are the two big hurdles for any Thief remake.
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Re:Shades of grey do not a good argument make
under the circumstances of not wanting to comply with the GPL
It is your "not wanting to comply with the GPL" which requires you to re-implement.What I object to, is the relicensing of my code, under a more-restrictive license, without the original attribution back to my license. If you want to relicense under GPL, fine. But if you don't also keep the BSD license that *I* licensed it under originally, that's not fine.
Absolutely. And rather than wrangling over legalities and licensing preferrences they should be clarifying the issue at hand and resolving it without all the politics and the attacks on the GPL.As for your mischaracterisation of me as "disliking the GPL", I don't know where that came from.
It probably stems from your assertion that the GPL somehow forces restrictions on developers when in reality the restrictions are forced by their own decisions. Virtually all licenses aside from public domain are the same, including BSD. If you refuse to adhere to the license then you cannot legally use the code.
Perhaps I am reading too much into your comments, the mailing lists are currently filled with over the top assertions and accusations concerning the GPL and developers who release code under the license. While I am not a carreer developer, as it appears you are, I too have released code under the GPL and I understand that the licensing decision lies solely with the developer and his licensing requirements should be met or the code should be left alone. -
Re:Pure gaming bliss.
It has already been done:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openglide/
http://www.glidos.net/
http://psvoodoo.sourceforge.net/ -
Re:Pure gaming bliss.
It has already been done:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openglide/
http://www.glidos.net/
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Re:Compiled Python 3000?I love Python, but it's often just too slow!
Try this, in increasing order of work required (and likely reward).
One: try Psyco. It may give you the bump you needed, or it may do nothing, but since it's so easy you might as well try it.
Two: write faster code. Basically, let Python do the work for you by handing off as much processing as possible to the language. For example, this:
output = []
for value in input: output.append(transformfunc(value))is longer to type and possibly vastly longer to execute than:
output = [transformfunc(value) for value in input]
since the latter knows how many values it needs to pre-allocate memory for, and can perform the operations in a tight C loop instead of evaluating a much slower Python loop.
Three: profile. Once you're sure that you've written good algorithms are aren't re-implementing large bits of Python in Python, run a profiler to find out where you can direct extra attention. Some people do this before #2, but I don't touch it until I know that everything else is right.
I wrote a "diff" function in native Python that searches two many-gig files for lines that appear in one but not the other. Said function is IO bound on a SCSI-320 RAID-0 system with 4 15K RPM drives, and typically uses about 20% CPU for the duration. You can write slow Python, but that doesn't mean that you have to.
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Re:The idea is great, but...
Oh and I forgot to ask this as well: how do you get around firewalls/NAT? Most people these days are behind NAT. In my experience, UPnP only works out-of-the-box on very few systems because most routers have UPnP disabled by default.
Support linux-igd? The project started back up in the past year and a half or so, along with libupnp coming back from the dead after Intel abandoned it. Help these projects get to the point where they're trivial to setup, stable, and shipped with all distributions and you solve the problem for the large number of folks using linux NATs. Better yet, that will ultimately trickly down to the router market as well, since a fair number of those use (or have used in the past) linux-based firmware. I've been using linuxigd for 2.5 years now and it's worked great with only a few minor hiccups (Xbox, Xbox 360, Azureus, Messenger, etc all work well with it), but in the past it's been a real pain to setup and actually get working.
Once people can finally get over GRC's sensationalist crap from nearly six years ago, we might finally get a real solution in place for NAT users. We all know IPv6 won't ever be widely adopted enough to make NAT obsolete.
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Re:The idea is great, but...
Oh and I forgot to ask this as well: how do you get around firewalls/NAT? Most people these days are behind NAT. In my experience, UPnP only works out-of-the-box on very few systems because most routers have UPnP disabled by default.
Support linux-igd? The project started back up in the past year and a half or so, along with libupnp coming back from the dead after Intel abandoned it. Help these projects get to the point where they're trivial to setup, stable, and shipped with all distributions and you solve the problem for the large number of folks using linux NATs. Better yet, that will ultimately trickly down to the router market as well, since a fair number of those use (or have used in the past) linux-based firmware. I've been using linuxigd for 2.5 years now and it's worked great with only a few minor hiccups (Xbox, Xbox 360, Azureus, Messenger, etc all work well with it), but in the past it's been a real pain to setup and actually get working.
Once people can finally get over GRC's sensationalist crap from nearly six years ago, we might finally get a real solution in place for NAT users. We all know IPv6 won't ever be widely adopted enough to make NAT obsolete.
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Re:How to open the .mbox file from the torrents?
Under Windows, use mboxview, it's small, free and available at http://mbox-viewer.sourceforge.net/.
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Re:Umm...noYou can write conole programs in QT I think you meant conoli.
http://krecipes.sourceforge.net/
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Re:KISS - how to draw a rectangleSo I think I prabably would like a mini-Gimp program (named "Gimpie"?
:-), that does away with all the layer stuff (transparency can be handy though), simply allows me to manipulate photo's (touch-up work, cut-paste, cropping, rotating, that's all) and nothing else.Is KolourPaint what you need?
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MS doesnt have to care
If they approve the OOXML spec with request to change it, or deny it standardization altogether, MS doesn't really need to care. This entire exercise is a bone thrown at the market. MS may be trying to placate the government entities and business partners that are tired of Office vOld.1 no longer working in their archives, but MS hasn't lost share of the desktop office productivity market because of their proprietary formats. Just like IE, they can shove OOXML down our throats anyway.
I hate to admit this simple fact, but even if MS apps saved their documents as bloated, mangled, insecure and limited capability formats, they'd have plenty of buyers. Like now.
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Seashore
SeaShore might be what you want: http://seashore.sourceforge.net/screenshot.php
It apparently is based on GIMP but has an OS X interface.