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Mac sales are actually down and they have a long way to go before dominating the home.
http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-200903-201004

Some markets? Their worldwide browser share has plummeted to around 54%. http://gs.statcounter.com/ I assume strongholds like Korea are IE for character set reasons, but they'll be less than 50% worldwide in just a few more months. The web stagnated for 10 years because of MS. Now that they're losing their grip, they're back to play embrace, extend, extinguish once again. This time they're not going to be able to crush some little one product company like Netscape though. They're up against Google and Apple. I hope those two stomp a mudhole in MS once and for all.

Whenever anyone runs objective tests of browser functionality, Opera usually does very well. I'm amazed it doesn't have more market share.

They have amazing marketshare in Russia. http://gs.statcounter.com/

http://gs.statcounter.com/#search_engine-CN-monthly-200902-201003

Well, most Windows users login into their OS with admin rights and when they launch the browser they automatically assign these rights. Basically, a browser should start with minimum rights regardless of what type of user launches it. Thank you for helping me clarify my point.

Chrome and IE8 have a combined market share of about 30% according to statcounter. This is indeed the right approach, but until ALL the major players and their most important versions take the route of sandboxing, malvertising will continue to be a reality.

1. This update gets installed if you are in the EU and use XP or later.
2. If you have IE as default browser, this site opens at the next login, or when you click on the icon the update puts on your desktop (like this).

Hopefully this will help standards compliant browsers gain some marketshare. (Not that my country needs much help. :P)

Russia seems like a paradise

{snip}it'll take more than this to chip away from IE's 62 percent lead in the browser war,{/snip}

Before we work on getting rid of the whole OS (good idea BTW ;) ), we should start by getting the effin' journalists to check their numbers and do some decent reporting - IE isn't even at 62%, much less @ a 62% lead over *any* other browser... The *only* thing IE leads in is, as you have pointed out, default installs.

• Italy: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-IT-monthly-200902-201003
• France: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-FR-monthly-200902-201003
• UK: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-GB-monthly-200902-201003

Germany showed a slight increase:

• http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-DE-monthly-200902-201003

• Italy: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-IT-monthly-200902-201003
• France: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-FR-monthly-200902-201003
• UK: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-GB-monthly-200902-201003

Germany showed a slight increase:

• http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-DE-monthly-200902-201003

• Italy: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-IT-monthly-200902-201003
• France: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-FR-monthly-200902-201003
• UK: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-GB-monthly-200902-201003

Germany showed a slight increase:

• http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-DE-monthly-200902-201003

How many of those Polish potentially swayed by the "Opera Turbo technology - speed up your Internet connection" are actually going to -stick to- using Opera, rather than going back to IE or using another browser they might have downloaded through that same choice screen?

Opera has 12% market share in Poland, which is almost double that of Safari and Chrome combined. No notable increases, despite the number of extra downloads, or they haven't been recorded yet in the stats.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-PL-monthly-200903-201003-bar

When checking statistics (http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-eu-weekly-200827-201011) I can not se that people are choosing different browser because of this ballot. Probably it is only causing that everybody is reinstalling whatever browser they have choosen.

Something can only supported by browsers with a marketshare (combined) of under ten percent, can hardly be called a defacto standard. It is an ISO standard and adopted as the defacto standard in many areas, web browsers are not one of those.

According to the most recent StatCounter stats, Firefox 3.5 is the World's "most used" browser.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-weekly-200827-200951

There was once a time that I actually thought that I could tell someone's location by their IP address. Then I realized what a dunce I was. Don't you think it's about time you woke up too?

http://www.statcounter.com/ Invaluable resource for tracking stats for websites. Since there is an official Wordpress plugin, setting it up for me was super simple and fast...been using it since the day we went live. Very useful for determining what people enjoy looking at on our site

I have to tell you I'm SO glad you think you've outsmarted me. I think that's just great. Let me tell you a simple analogy about what's happening here:

You can tell (from my user ID if nothing else) that I'm not a young man. As a matter of fact, I'm an aging white man. And I REGULARLY play basketball with young black guys. Yea, they look at me and think, "Oh, old fucking white guy. I'll destroy him."

Take a WILD guess what actually happens 9 times out of 10. I kick their ass. So, you thinking you're all clever and know where I'm located (you don't) gratifies me to no small degree.

Yea, keep thinking you're smart, and that the site you use is actually giving you correct info. I'll just keep sitting back and laughing at you.

Oh, you should try basketball, or some form of exercise sometime. At the very least, get your fat girlfriend to get off the couch and do more than fetch you ice cream.

There was once a time that I actually thought that I could tell someone's location by their IP address. Then I realized what a dunce I was. Don't you think it's about time you woke up too?

http://www.statcounter.com/ Invaluable resource for tracking stats for websites. Since there is an official Wordpress plugin, setting it up for me was super simple and fast...been using it since the day we went live. Very useful for determining what people enjoy looking at on our site and what they ignore.

And what's REALLY REALLY fucking creepy is that you're STALKING me.

See my above response.

That is utterly lame, gross and pathetic.

And yet here you are, continuing to talk to me.

Haha, you sound like that figure is fixed and not going down. How about this one: 55.66% or this one: 50.3%
There, and I didn't even have to go to the w3schools site like so many people mistakenly do.

And if you check out this link, you will see Firefox' near absolute dominance in Antarctica. Go Firefox go! I actually use Firefox, just thought this graph was pretty funny. At best it may reveal the browser preferences of the remote research scientific community.

Has passed? StatCounter shows they already passed in August 2008, far before Chrome beta for Mac or Linux was available. However Internet Explorer still seem to have majority of marketshare with 63% (interestingly the Net Applications site seems to use IIS..)

Interestingly other countries seem to have a totally different market shares (wiser users?):
Opera is leading with 32% in Russia, with 35% in Ukraine, and 44% in Belarus.
China saw a huge 7% decrease from 95% in just recent two months, with Maxthon picking up the same percent and Firefox as 3rd with only 3%. (Maxthon uses IE engine tho)

Google has huge ways to market Chrome; they can do tv/billboard ads, internet ads, include a notice on their sites (like they're doing with YouTube) and enable option to install it along with their other apps, and pay manufacturers to include Chrome with their pc's.

Has passed? StatCounter shows they already passed in August 2008, far before Chrome beta for Mac or Linux was available. However Internet Explorer still seem to have majority of marketshare with 63% (interestingly the Net Applications site seems to use IIS..)

Interestingly other countries seem to have a totally different market shares (wiser users?):
Opera is leading with 32% in Russia, with 35% in Ukraine, and 44% in Belarus.
China saw a huge 7% decrease from 95% in just recent two months, with Maxthon picking up the same percent and Firefox as 3rd with only 3%. (Maxthon uses IE engine tho)

Google has huge ways to market Chrome; they can do tv/billboard ads, internet ads, include a notice on their sites (like they're doing with YouTube) and enable option to install it along with their other apps, and pay manufacturers to include Chrome with their pc's.

Has passed? StatCounter shows they already passed in August 2008, far before Chrome beta for Mac or Linux was available. However Internet Explorer still seem to have majority of marketshare with 63% (interestingly the Net Applications site seems to use IIS..)

Interestingly other countries seem to have a totally different market shares (wiser users?):
Opera is leading with 32% in Russia, with 35% in Ukraine, and 44% in Belarus.
China saw a huge 7% decrease from 95% in just recent two months, with Maxthon picking up the same percent and Firefox as 3rd with only 3%. (Maxthon uses IE engine tho)

Google has huge ways to market Chrome; they can do tv/billboard ads, internet ads, include a notice on their sites (like they're doing with YouTube) and enable option to install it along with their other apps, and pay manufacturers to include Chrome with their pc's.

Has passed? StatCounter shows they already passed in August 2008, far before Chrome beta for Mac or Linux was available. However Internet Explorer still seem to have majority of marketshare with 63% (interestingly the Net Applications site seems to use IIS..)

Interestingly other countries seem to have a totally different market shares (wiser users?):
Opera is leading with 32% in Russia, with 35% in Ukraine, and 44% in Belarus.
China saw a huge 7% decrease from 95% in just recent two months, with Maxthon picking up the same percent and Firefox as 3rd with only 3%. (Maxthon uses IE engine tho)

Google has huge ways to market Chrome; they can do tv/billboard ads, internet ads, include a notice on their sites (like they're doing with YouTube) and enable option to install it along with their other apps, and pay manufacturers to include Chrome with their pc's.

Has passed? StatCounter shows they already passed in August 2008, far before Chrome beta for Mac or Linux was available. However Internet Explorer still seem to have majority of marketshare with 63% (interestingly the Net Applications site seems to use IIS..)

Interestingly other countries seem to have a totally different market shares (wiser users?):
Opera is leading with 32% in Russia, with 35% in Ukraine, and 44% in Belarus.
China saw a huge 7% decrease from 95% in just recent two months, with Maxthon picking up the same percent and Firefox as 3rd with only 3%. (Maxthon uses IE engine tho)

Google has huge ways to market Chrome; they can do tv/billboard ads, internet ads, include a notice on their sites (like they're doing with YouTube) and enable option to install it along with their other apps, and pay manufacturers to include Chrome with their pc's.

According to the Anandtech article, only the pretty much end-of-life Windows XP is out of luck. Linux, OS X and modern Windows versions all work ... Non news?

According to many estimates that is 3 out of 5 computer users have XP as their OS. That is pretty big. The lowest estimate that I have seen is that XP is only running on 1 out 5 daily use computers. Another way of looking at it is that there more XP users than there are, Unix, Linux, Mac OS (any version) and any other non-Windows OS combined.

Sources: (62.2%): http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

(69.05%): http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10

(48.47%): http://gs.statcounter.com/press/encouraging-start-for-windows-7

(70.48%): http://gizmodo.com/5398689/reality-check

Also the expected end of life is no earlier than April 8, 2014, four years from now...

Ahhhhh, here we go: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951

Yes indeed. Global domination by Firefox is indeed getting closer - but not this year, and probably not next year. Let's give it between 3 and 5 years, alright?

Take that graph and extrapolate, and you'll see that if the current trend continues, IE will drop below 50% next summer and below Firefox next fall or winter. Unless of course there's a 60% rock bottom of users worldwide who cannot or dare not install a new browser on their Windows computer.

Other interesting trends are the rise of Chrome (shamefully omitted from the "Browser version" graph, but now as popular as Safari and Opera combined) and the steady decline of Opera. Where's Opera 10 btw?

Well, that chart didn't but this one does.

And yes, IE (all versions) is in a rapid decline, while FF is slowly climbing.

And if you want to look at interesting picture check this chart for Europe or Poland.

Look at the stats for Antarctica

Firefox 3.0 clearly in the lead and just a complete mash of the other contenters...

Then why does this related graph show a steady decline in all versions of Internet Explorer? If IE8 is really just cannibalizing IE7 and IE6, hence their decline and IE8's growth, then shouldn't the IE plot be flat or increasing? However, the graph shows IE's market share in steady decline since at least the fourth quarter of 2008, while Firefox has shown a slow increase throughout that same time period. It is obvious that the high uptake of Firefox 3.5 in this period is largely due to people updating from 3.0, but from the other graph it is just clear that IE as a whole is steadily losing users, probably to either Firefox or Chrome.

As someone has said elsewhere, the more important issue here is here:

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951

The previous graph shows something we already know: that people happily flit between versions of the same browser, especially home users. This graph shows browser-family usage. And it shows a steady decline of IE against FF and Chrome.

But again, actually, that's not the important issue here. Here's what matters: the browser war was won when IE's monopoly was broken. Developing for just IE used to be a legitimate business practice - you were only alienating 10% of your customers, and most of them had IE on their system anyway. I remember when all my online banking required IE, as did a bunch of other sites I wanted to use.

I couldn't care less if Chrome eats FF's market-share. If Safari trumps them both. What matters, what's important, is the forced interoperability that comes from not having one browser with 90% coverage. And when that happens, everyone wins: as is rapidly becoming that case. Each new version of IE becomes more and more standards compliant, because they can no longer abuse their monopoly.

-P

Well, that chart didn't but this one does.

And yes, IE (all versions) is in a rapid decline, while FF is slowly climbing.

if by "slowly climbing" you mean "flatlining", sure... Chrome's the only one with a reasonable uptick recently.

I fail to see all good news for Firefox on that page. Or, should I say that I don't see all good news for consumers.

Together, IE6, IE7 and IE8 still dominate the market. I'm afraid that will remain true for a couple more years, no matter how much pressure the rest of the world puts on the market. Separating the versions of the various browsers just clutters the picture.

If I may, I'll point out that I'm partly color blind. It's tough to see that chart. It's hard to see the "real picture". What is literally true for me, is figuratively true for those who are working so hard to track browser usage.

Is there a page that tracks usage, which lumps IE (all versions), Firefox (all versions) Opera (all versions) etc?

Ahhhhh, here we go: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951

Yes indeed. Global domination by Firefox is indeed getting closer - but not this year, and probably not next year. Let's give it between 3 and 5 years, alright?

IE overall is losing share

Something is horribly wrong in Antarctica. I think they're strapping browsers to the penguins.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-an-weekly-200827-200952

    Oddly it looks like you could see the one computer with a browser booting. For a while they used firefox on it except for that one time they gave Opera a try, then in July all hell broke loose.

The question (which the graph doesn't readily answer) is whether the net FF adoption rate is faster than the net IE adoption rate.

Well, that chart didn't but this one does.
And yes, IE (all versions) is in a rapid decline, while FF is slowly climbing.

If you look at the browsers, independent of the version:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951
you see that IE is clearly far on top.

BUT, as I previously said, Statcounter does not count anyone with an ad blocker, in browser, in the firewall, etc.
Because they are blocked for tracking users across sites with their web beacon.

So not only are the numbers strongly biased in one direction. No TFS biases them back in the other direction.

That is, all in all, a truly epic fail. And I’m not even a statistics guy. I bet those would first die from the horrors, and then spin in their graves fast enough to power a small city. ;)

Here's a plot (thankfully, they give out the raw CSV data) with the "all versions" included. Firefox has a ways to go. http://yfrog.com/j5temptlp

Statcounter also plots that, fwiw. (Click on the dropdown box after "Statistic:" at the bottom-left of the graph to get other views and data sets as well.)

A more accurate graph for the "Most Popular Browser Worldwide" would be given by:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951
Here you see a more representative picture - IE's decline and Firefox's rise, but still IE's total share is 55% to Firefox's 32%

Just because we're in the midst of an IE upgrade from 7-8 doesn't make Firefox now the most popular browser. Sure, this version is currently a little ahead of each of IE7 and IE8, but to me what this really indicates is that Firefox users upgrade faster.

If News Corp, the Denver Post and the Dallas Morning News all are thinking about blocking google, then why don't they actually do it for a week and see what happens? All this talk about the possibility of leaving google is just that, all talk. I'm sure that bing also has sent their little robots to index these sites so if you are using bing over google then people will still be able to find your stories. But the real issue still lies with the fact that they can't just abandon the search engine with the biggest share of the search market. Not just nationally, but globally. As of October 09, google has 80% of the US market and 90% of the global market according to StatCounter Global Stats. IMHO it sounds like it is a much bigger risk for the newspaper companies to lose google than the other way around. As stated here before, there are many sources for the news other than the newspaper and their internet sites.

You do realise that the marketshare you linked to is for the US only? The situation looks different when considering the world smartphone market. Just sayin...

Worldwide it got 31%, about the same as Symbian. GP's point still valid.

Not sure if you are virtualized or not, but VMWare client offers many great reporting features to give you CPU, MEM and HD utilization usage per server. Also, if you are running Cisco networking, the management interface can give you detailed reports with pretty graphs and such (which we all know executives LOVE to see). Another tool which I find useful for web-based environments is Statcounter. They provide very detailed information about pageloads and unique/returning visitors, all based on IP.

"All that said, Opera's penetration in the mobile market is sinking." really? http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-ww-daily-20081216-20091104

Not so, you can break down the StatCounter stats by country: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-CN-monthly-200810-200911 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-RU-monthly-200810-200911

Not so, you can break down the StatCounter stats by country: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-CN-monthly-200810-200911 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-RU-monthly-200810-200911

For what it's worth, the situation may not be quite as grim as it seems.

If you go to StatCounter Global Stats and look at the breakdown by region, the areas where IE6 usage are still very high are Africa, Asia, and (to a lesser extent) South America. Within North America, Europe, and Oceania, IE6 usage is about 8.5% on weekdays and 5.5% on weekends. Whether this is because evangelism efforts in those regions are failing, or because piracy levels are high and WGA prevents users from updating through the normal OS update mechanism, or because (until Firefox 3.5.4) IE is required for government-mandated encryption to function, I don't know.

There is also an issue that there are a large number of robots, spiders, viruses, and virus scanners that masquerade as IE6; I wouldn’t be surprised if these non-IE6 IE6 visits account for 0.5-1% of the remaining IE6 numbers. Which is frustrating, because getting an accurate count is more important than anything in deciding when to not bother with support.

Update your bookmarks, that was half a year ago.
Nowadays Firefox 3.5 is leading
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-eu-monthly-200911-200911-bar

Yes, this was in February 09 - and at the time the guy was runningWindows 2003. Since then, a lot has happened. Now, Firefox only has about 80%. But still Windows-only in Tuxland.

Yes, this was in February 09 - and at the time the guy was runningWindows 2003. Since then, a lot has happened. Now, Firefox only has about 80%. But still Windows-only in Tuxland.

Yes, this was in February 09 - and at the time the guy was runningWindows 2003. Since then, a lot has happened. Now, Firefox only has about 80%. But still Windows-only in Tuxland.

And Firefox has a 100.0% share in Antarctica (maybe just 1 user?) http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-an-monthly-200902-200902-bar

Those damned penguins!