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Re:Incomplete article
Sorry to burst your tin hat, but that's exactly what happened.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/
Audit Plan:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/auditPlanSaras ota.pdf
Parallel Test plan of specific machines with the largest undervote:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/parallelTestPl an.pdf
Test Results (11/28/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 11-06.htm
Second Test Results (12/01/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 12-06.htm
Analysis of Software and Security Statement of Work (12/15/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/FSUstatementWo rk.pdf
Florida State University will have access to the source code with the stipulation that the code will not be made public.
Okay, now venture down the path the Florida State is run by one of Jeb Bush's cronies on the Haliburton / Carlisle Group / New World Order payroll...
The President of FSU is Thomas Kent 'T.K.' Wetherell, who was the Speaker of the House in the Florida Legislature, where he served from 1980-1992. There you go!
Oops, he is a Democrat.
Let's have another thread after the independent software testing is complete to review why we think that still doesn't prove anything. -
Re:Incomplete article
Sorry to burst your tin hat, but that's exactly what happened.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/
Audit Plan:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/auditPlanSaras ota.pdf
Parallel Test plan of specific machines with the largest undervote:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/parallelTestPl an.pdf
Test Results (11/28/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 11-06.htm
Second Test Results (12/01/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 12-06.htm
Analysis of Software and Security Statement of Work (12/15/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/FSUstatementWo rk.pdf
Florida State University will have access to the source code with the stipulation that the code will not be made public.
Okay, now venture down the path the Florida State is run by one of Jeb Bush's cronies on the Haliburton / Carlisle Group / New World Order payroll...
The President of FSU is Thomas Kent 'T.K.' Wetherell, who was the Speaker of the House in the Florida Legislature, where he served from 1980-1992. There you go!
Oops, he is a Democrat.
Let's have another thread after the independent software testing is complete to review why we think that still doesn't prove anything. -
Re:Incomplete article
Sorry to burst your tin hat, but that's exactly what happened.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/
Audit Plan:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/auditPlanSaras ota.pdf
Parallel Test plan of specific machines with the largest undervote:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/parallelTestPl an.pdf
Test Results (11/28/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 11-06.htm
Second Test Results (12/01/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 12-06.htm
Analysis of Software and Security Statement of Work (12/15/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/FSUstatementWo rk.pdf
Florida State University will have access to the source code with the stipulation that the code will not be made public.
Okay, now venture down the path the Florida State is run by one of Jeb Bush's cronies on the Haliburton / Carlisle Group / New World Order payroll...
The President of FSU is Thomas Kent 'T.K.' Wetherell, who was the Speaker of the House in the Florida Legislature, where he served from 1980-1992. There you go!
Oops, he is a Democrat.
Let's have another thread after the independent software testing is complete to review why we think that still doesn't prove anything. -
Re:Incomplete article
Sorry to burst your tin hat, but that's exactly what happened.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/
Audit Plan:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/auditPlanSaras ota.pdf
Parallel Test plan of specific machines with the largest undervote:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/parallelTestPl an.pdf
Test Results (11/28/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 11-06.htm
Second Test Results (12/01/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 12-06.htm
Analysis of Software and Security Statement of Work (12/15/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/FSUstatementWo rk.pdf
Florida State University will have access to the source code with the stipulation that the code will not be made public.
Okay, now venture down the path the Florida State is run by one of Jeb Bush's cronies on the Haliburton / Carlisle Group / New World Order payroll...
The President of FSU is Thomas Kent 'T.K.' Wetherell, who was the Speaker of the House in the Florida Legislature, where he served from 1980-1992. There you go!
Oops, he is a Democrat.
Let's have another thread after the independent software testing is complete to review why we think that still doesn't prove anything. -
Re:Incomplete article
Sorry to burst your tin hat, but that's exactly what happened.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/
Audit Plan:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/auditPlanSaras ota.pdf
Parallel Test plan of specific machines with the largest undervote:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/parallelTestPl an.pdf
Test Results (11/28/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 11-06.htm
Second Test Results (12/01/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 12-06.htm
Analysis of Software and Security Statement of Work (12/15/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/FSUstatementWo rk.pdf
Florida State University will have access to the source code with the stipulation that the code will not be made public.
Okay, now venture down the path the Florida State is run by one of Jeb Bush's cronies on the Haliburton / Carlisle Group / New World Order payroll...
The President of FSU is Thomas Kent 'T.K.' Wetherell, who was the Speaker of the House in the Florida Legislature, where he served from 1980-1992. There you go!
Oops, he is a Democrat.
Let's have another thread after the independent software testing is complete to review why we think that still doesn't prove anything. -
Re:Incomplete article
Sorry to burst your tin hat, but that's exactly what happened.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/
Audit Plan:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/auditPlanSaras ota.pdf
Parallel Test plan of specific machines with the largest undervote:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/parallelTestPl an.pdf
Test Results (11/28/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 11-06.htm
Second Test Results (12/01/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/excel/ParallelTest 12-06.htm
Analysis of Software and Security Statement of Work (12/15/06)
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/FSUstatementWo rk.pdf
Florida State University will have access to the source code with the stipulation that the code will not be made public.
Okay, now venture down the path the Florida State is run by one of Jeb Bush's cronies on the Haliburton / Carlisle Group / New World Order payroll...
The President of FSU is Thomas Kent 'T.K.' Wetherell, who was the Speaker of the House in the Florida Legislature, where he served from 1980-1992. There you go!
Oops, he is a Democrat.
Let's have another thread after the independent software testing is complete to review why we think that still doesn't prove anything. -
Re:Comments
How is a sex offender defined? I'm thinking there could be a whole range of sex offenses, from minor infractions to major ones.
It varies from state to state, here's the law for Tenessee (PDF, Google view as HTML). Of those I'd say a good chunk of the ones hit for statutory rape aren't horrible sex offenders but someone a few years out of the legal age difference. They're pretty much harmless, but they have to register (for life). Incest could be another one where it was consensual. (Yes I know it's not exactly normal but if it was consensual it's unlikely they're going to go out and rape someone.)
Here's some of Oregon's list of crimes that qualify on their history page. Back in 1995 there's these gems:
- Misdemeanor sex crimes are added to the list of offenses that are not eligible for petition to set aside a conviction.
- Changes are made to include juveniles who commit sex crimes including mandatory sentencing and remanding to adult court.
- Lifetime registration for juveniles is enacted with the ability to petition for relief from registration after 10 years.
It doesn't look like they repealed that since, so all misdemeanor sex crimes in Oregon land you on the sex offenders list.
Here's South Carolina's list, they list peeping/voyeurism and indecent exposure regardless of age. If you got busted mooning someone as a kid, in SC you're a sex offender.
Florida's list is mostly really bad sex crimes, but "794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors" says that if you're 24 or older and have sex with someone 16/17 you have to register. If you were just 23 then it's OK and you weren't a sex offender.
And that's the best I can do right now, a lot of the state sex offender sites don't make it easy to find what crimes qualify for listing. Often you have to go read the text of the laws, and they don't always link to the laws either. If you live in the US you might want to try to dig up the list for your state so you have some idea what gets someone listed in your area.
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I carry a gun every dayI thought you might want to hear from one of the millions of US citizens that is licensed to carry a gun every day, just about anywhere.
It ROCKS!
I usually carry my Kel-Tec P32, which has a Pocket Slipper Laser Aimer. Sits in the front pocket like a PCA or wallet. http://www.smartcarry.com/xsl.jpg
Guns And Laws
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
Nice, small gun
http://www.gunblast.com/KelTec_P3AT.htm and
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_handguns/keltec_0 92304/ Lifetime guarantee.
.32 caliber, $250~ Slightly larger and more money: http://www.waltheramerica.com/firearms/ppks.cfmFlorida gun laws
http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/florida
If you know anyone with young children who need gun safety training http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/materials.asp
The official police academy book for gun laws in Florida http://www.floridafirearmslaw.com/indexbook.shtml
The ethics of owning guns http://www.a-human-right.com/introduction.html
Florida's concealed carry permit office http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.htm l
FAQ http://www.guncite.com/index.html and http://gunscholar.com/
Purchase From Dealer
There is no license or permit required to purchase a firearm (rifle, shotgun or handgun) in the State of Florida. However, at the time of purchase an "instant background check" is performed by the dealer calling an 800 number that connects him to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE). The FDLE operator uses the basic information about you provided by the dealer (name, address, birthdate, Social Security Number, etc.) to check the state and federal computers to determine whether or not you have a criminal record, domestic violence conviction or are subject to a restraining order. If you have a clean record, FDLE tells the dealer that you are Approved, and the sale takes place. If there is a problem with your record the dealer is told that you are Disapproved, and he may not sell you the firearm. Assuming that you are "approved", you may take a rifle or shotgun home immediately. In the case of a handgun, you must wait three days to take it out of the store, a so-called "cooling-off" period. If you are approved, the state distroys the record of the call for the instant background and the dealer keeps a written record, which is later checked by the ATF. From a dealer, the minimum age of a rifle or shotgun is 18; for a handgun it is 21. Persons holding a valid Florida Concealed Weapon License are exempt from the handgun waiting period. Persons holding a Florida Concealed Weapons License must have the Instant Background Check performed. Sale or Transfer Between Individuals
There are no formal requirements for the sale/transfer of a firearm between individuals. However, it is a crime for you to knowingly transfer a firearm to an underaged person, or to a person who you know to be otherwise disqualified (such as a person previously convicted of a felony). For private sales, the minimum age for a rifle, shotgun, or handgun is 18 and no waiting period or background check.
Special County Requirements
In accordance with a Constitutional Revision passed by the voters in November of 1998, any County within Flor
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Re:Where is the reactor?
There is lots of polonium in tobacco for instance. Seems to come from the phosphate fertilizers. Just google for tobacco and polonium. Couple of example links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking
http://www1.fipr.state.fl.us/FIPR/FIPR1.nsf/9bb2fe 8f45c4945e85256b58005abaec/5dc7355eabaa3e3c85256b2 f00591a7e!OpenDocument -
Machines past test
Contrary to the central assertion, the people in Sarasota County did not vote in "straight line" manner where one could reasonably compare different races, and the votes were not dominantly Democratic (votes - not voters).
Total votes cast in Sarasota county: 142,532
Governor: 76,198 (R) vs 60,214 (D)
US Senator: 58,339 (R) vs 80,177 (D) (Katherine Harris race)
Att Gen: 72,185 (R) vs 64,047 (D)
Ag Comm: 79,406 (R) vs 55,653 (D)
CFO: 66,965 (R) vs 69,169 (D)
In all of the races above 135-138,000 people voted.
And the race in question:
US House 13th: 58,632 (R) vs 65,487 (D)
So there is a ~15,000 vote difference in this race compared to the others...
But which candidate's total seems to be "too low"? (unless you believe that Vern Buchanan was as unpopular with Republicans as Katherine Harris)...
Source:
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Tires are no good as Reefs
There was a lot of talk a few months ago about how Florida is now trying to clean up millions of tires that were dumped off the coast in 1972 in order to create reefs. Perhaps there is some way to use tires to make good reefs, but this certainly is not. Stuff like this shows that what might seems like a good use for trash may come back as an ever bigger problem years latter.
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Re:What's the difference?
Actually, it is and -- surprise to me -- supports your side completely. I stand corrected, the legislature is full of idiots in this case.
(7) "Electronic mail message" means an electronic message or computer file that is transmitted between two or more telecommunications devices; computers; computer networks, regardless of whether the network is a local, regional, or global network; or electronic devices capable of receiving electronic messages, regardless of whether the message is converted to hard copy format after receipt, viewed upon transmission, or stored for later retrieval.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode =View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statut e&Search_String=mail&URL=CH0668/Sec602.HTM -
Re:How does that work again?
But the law was talking about electronic messages sent to a particular person. That definition includes IMs. I don't see that as much of a stretch myself.
Except that it doesn't say "electronic messages", it literally says "electronic mail". RTFS (Read The F*#king Statute)! -
Florida definition of 'electronc mail'Well, I couldn't the exact law that the article is talking about, but most Florida laws regarding e-mail state the definition as "Electronic mail message" has the same meaning as provided in s. 668.602.
Here's the definition in 668.602:
"Electronic mail message" means an electronic message or computer file that is transmitted between two or more telecommunications devices; computers; computer networks, regardless of whether the network is a local, regional, or global network; or electronic devices capable of receiving electronic messages, regardless of whether the message is converted to hardcopy format after receipt, viewed upon transmission, or stored for later retrieval.
IANAL, but it seems pretty obvious that this should cover instant messages as well as e-mail as it does not refer to any of the RFCs for e-mail (2821, 2822, etc).The rest of the law can be seen at http://election.dos.state.fl.us/laws/04laws/ch_20
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Re:Why do you elect judges in the United States?
Alright, first off, remember that the summary got things wrong; no federal judge is up for either an election or a popular confirmation vote. Ever. All federal judges, trial or appellate, are appointed by the president with the advice and consent of the Senate, and their term is for good behavior (i. e. until they retire, die, or are impeached).
Federal courts can only rule on federal matters, and more specifically only those matters that Congress has empowered them to act (all federal courts other than the Supreme Court of the United States are created by Congress).
As for the state courts, your mileage will vary from state to state. Here in Florida, appellate court judges are appointed by a special executive commission and face approval in the state legislature, however after a certain number of years they are exposed to a popular retention vote, where the voting public decids whether to retain or remove the particular appellate judge. Right now, Florida has three justices from the Florida Supreme Court (among others) facing such a confirmation vote (and what will make this vote interesting is that all three were on the bench for both Bush v. Gore as well as the more recent Terry Schiavo rulings).
As for Florida trial judges, they are decided by election. There are restrictions on who can run, and there are restrictions on how they can run (e. g. they can't say how they intend to rule in future cases brought before them). There may or may not be problems with such a system, however things are mitigated by the fact that the accused in criminal cases has the right to a trial by jury (and juries are also available to civil cases where the parties involved are willing to pay for them). Conviction or acquittal is decided by the jury, not the judge, unless the accused decides to waive their right and have a "bench trial." Any appeals are brought before an unelected appellate court.
While it may not seem like such a great idea to let the public at large decide on trial judges (I myself have reservations), because we have jury trials in the US, it should be remembered that registered voters are, by statue, potential jurors. -
Florida certified voting machine companies
Took 5 seconds to google the appropriate page:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/votemeth/sysvendor s.shtml
Looks like 3 companies:
Diebold Election Systems
Elections Systems and Software, Inc. &
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Re:Taxation without representation
If that happened, that sounds pretty stupid. When I go on vacation to Miami, should I be allowed to refuse sales taxes on the souvenir crap I buy, because I didn't live there to vote on the tax rate?
Actually, yes. Well, the process is you keep all of your receipts, fill out the proper paperwork[PDF Warning] and send it in to get your refund. Then you fill out the appropriate forms in your state of residence and write a check to your state tax board based on what the sales tax would be had you made your purchase in your home state. -
Re:Soudan, US"So, technically, a federation can be a group of autonomous nation-states--such as with the EU--or a collective of partially self-governing provinces/subnational states"
You missed the second paragraph under "Federation:"Federations are often founded on an original agreement between a number of sovereign states, sometimes after an intermediate period of confederation.
"Like I said, the South tried to do this during the Civil War, and they failed. Unless the Federal government decides to allow a particular state to secede from the union, any such attempts would likely be met with military resistance."
Partners in a marriage tend not to have the right to divorce unilaterally, either. Does that mean that married couples lose their rights as individuals and should only be treated as one person?
"Get it through your head. No one, except perhaps you, would consider interstate commerce to be international commerce, or consider interstate travel to be international travel. U.S. states do not issue their own passports because passports are issued by national governments; it has nothing to do with whether states have the right to control their borders or regulate international trade. There is a clear distinction between interstate and international affairs--this is an a priori truth."
You've made a lot of statements here, claims about what a state can and cannot do, but the only sources you reference are Wikipedia. If states are not allowed to control traffic across their own borders, are not allowed to regulate either interstate or international commerce, then there should be clauses in the (remarkably short and easy to read) United States Constitution. All I'm seeing on your part are assumptions on your part that boil down to the phrase "They don't because they can't," and all your links to Wikipedia end up doing is supporting my claim that it's all a matter of public perception rather than constitutional law.
"Also, each state does NOT have its own State Department."
As I said before, name one that doesn't. Here's one that does. I'll leave checking the other 49 as an exercise for the reader. While the states have agreed to present a single face to the rest of the world (through the federal government), the state departments of several states still exist for official communications with the federal government (among other things).
"They do not mean semi-autonomous or partially self-governing."
I never said that states were not semi-autonomous. I'm saying that they are because they choose to be and need not be.
"All provinces are partially self-governing just as cities and townships are."
Just the opposite. Cities and townships are granted self-government by the state government (read any random state constitution) and continue to exist by the grace of the state government, but the state governments created the federal government, not the other way around.
"Your confusion over the issue and the tenuous arguments you've supplied seem to demonstrate that you have difficulties grasping how our political system works."
Then it should be a simple matter for you to find the relevant passages. -
Re:What to expect.
OTH, this is one of the few communicable lifetime diseases that has NOT resulted in wholesale quarenteens and sanitariums like leprosy and tuberculosis. Instead, Typhoid Mary's are allowed to go about their lives, ending others lives with their actions.
There's good reason for that. Last I checked, for example, it's really hard to get HIV by having someone cough on you.
I suppose I should ask for clarification: what do you mean by "Typhoid Mary's?" Are you suggesting that people with HIV should be quarantined? What actions are you referring to, specifically, that can be generalized to the entire HIV+ popluation? -
Don't Worry guys
It was all me. I voted two weeks early. They even gave me a sticker.
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Oral sex et al-Do you know if you're a criminal?This particular police chief should be repremanded for these statements and issue a public apology for assuming that everyone is guilty before innocent.
The problem I have with the whole "if you have nothing to hide..." argument is that it can be really hard to even know when/if you are doing something illegal! For a variety of reasons:
People have a hard time separating their personal judgement from what is law
A prime example is our history of sodomy law. All it takes is one deeply religious person in power who is unable or unwilling to separate church from state before you have a problem.
From the current Florida lawbooks:798.01 Living in open adultery.--Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Where either of the parties living in an open state of adultery is married, both parties so living shall be deemed to be guilty of the offense provided for in this section.
Are you living in Florida with your unmarried girlfriend or boyfriend right now? (Oh wait, this is Slashdot
798.02 Lewd and lascivious behavior.--If any man and woman, not being married to each other, lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabit together, or if any man or woman, married or unmarried, engages in open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior, they shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. :) You're breaking the law, and I doubt you're alone.
People misinterpret things, especially when they don't understand
What happens when big brother misinterprets your repeated login attempts because you forgot your password as attempted illegal entry into a computer system?
Or how about when you open your e-mailbox and receive those "hot teens!" spam and you're mistaken for a pedophile because you "downloaded child porn" thanks to the attached jpeg?
There are plenty of silly, stupid and broad laws on the books
I won't even bother to comprehend how many silly, stupid and broad laws there are. Check out some of your state's dumb laws (DumbLaws.com coral cached) and discover your true criminal identity.
And lets not forget about the growing issue of computer crimes created by politicians who have been bought or simply don't understand. If the RIAA/MPAA gets its way, it'll soon be illegal to put a DVD in your computer or record your favorite movie aired on TV to watch later.
... anyway ...
My point is that you are mistaken to think that you have nothing to worry about if you've supposedly done nothing wrong.
First, everyone in this country has probably broken or will eventually break a law or two unknowingly or willingly. And secondly, history has proven that whoever has the power to monitor the people will undoubtably abuse that power according to their beliefs and to their advantage -- whether it's in public locations or in the privacy of your own home. -
Re:Another podcast interview on prisonplanet tooNo election has ever been decided by a single vote.
Er, not totally correct. See this link and this link for how elections have been decided by one vote.
The second link references some items from the first link but adds others to the list. The lists contain elections decided by one vote for things like admittance to the Union and who would become president as well as mayoral and sentorial elections decided by one vote.
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O Canada!
I'm a Canadian Architect who works in states. Some fun facts for everyone:
-Asbestos is still used in developing countries as a fire-protective material in building construction. Nothing still comes close to performanse vs. expense qualities of asbestos.
-Some of the most dangerous work/procedure in building retrofit/renovation is asbestos control/removal.
-Yet still, Canada (Quebec) is the number one manufacturer of asbestos in the world, for construction purposes. Asbestos is not used in it's pure form (in developed countries) anymore, but as a mixture component instead. US still remains a large manufacturer.
Very quick google search:
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/air/permitting/asbmanu. htm
t's legal to use manufacture asbestos products in Florida. Look at the list o products in that list, and then be scared. terrorists and hurricanes? who needs 'em? We can hurt ourselves with such higher sophistication. -
US Live traffic mapsA few usefull links to US Live traffic maps
- Atlanta http://www.georgia-navigator.com/maps/atlanta http://wsbradio.com/MARKET/traffic/map.html
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- Tallahassee
http://smsdmz12.state.fl.us/bin/CgiAtmsMap.exe?Ar
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- Orlando
http://www.traffic.com/Orlando-Traffic/Orlando-Tr
a ffic-Reports.html - Tampa
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http://www.traffic.com/Tampa-Traffic/Tampa-Traffi
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Miami
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/traffic/sfl-traf
f icmap,0,2300850.framedurl - San Francisco http://www.sfbaytraffic.info/map.htm
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Maryland
http://www.chart.state.md.us/travinfo/travinfo.as
p http://www.chart.state.md.us/MapNet/MapDOTNET.aspx ?Browser=NS6&ViewName=Triangle&Cmd=switchtheme&tab =Traffic&DoPanTo=False&Direction=&PanFactor=&DoZoo mScaleFactor=&x=&y=&Encoder=×tamp=72586&x1=34 7511&x2=458427&y2=207368&y1=123548 - New York, LA, San Francisco http://www.metrocommute.com/
- For more links visit http://www.joegivens.com/traffic.htm http://www.traffic.com/ http://www.shgresources.com/fl/traffic/
- Manufacturers of systems based on cell phone tracking http://www.delcan.com/prod/index.php?id=295 http://www.airsage.com/case_study.html
- Orlando
http://www.traffic.com/Orlando-Traffic/Orlando-Tr
- Tallahassee
http://smsdmz12.state.fl.us/bin/CgiAtmsMap.exe?Ar
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Re:Next step
Well, that's not _quite_ an accurate summation of the deadly force laws extant in Florida. One is permitted to use deadly force to defend life (but not property).
It looks like they've either just changed it or are in the process of it, but at the beginning of 2005 the law was that you had to use "every reasonable means to avoid the danger, including retreat." Ah, here it is, they've changed it effective October 1. But what didn't make sense to me was under Florida law the restrictions on using a handgun were equivalent to the restrictions on displaying them. (This is how I interpret http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/self_def
e nse.html which says "Using or displaying a handgun in any other circumstances could result in your conviction for crimes such as improper exhibition of a firearm, manslaughter, or worse." So if someone threatens you with a knife, but it is reasonable for you to retreat, you can either try to take away the knife or you can run away. You can't shoot them, which is fine as that's a bit excessive, but you can't even take out your gun and repeat your request that he drop the knife.Yes, retreat is the _first_ thing that a [good] tactical defense course will teach you.
Well, having never taken such a course maybe I just have no clue what I'm talking about, but I would think that there are some cases where it's appropriate to threaten force without necessarily using it. "Never display a handgun to gain "leverage" in an argument. Threatening someone verbally while possessing a handgun, even licensed, will land you in jail for three years." (from the same link) So apparently you can't even *tell* the guy with the knife that you have a gun.
As for the 'theft detectors', I've adopted a policy in the last couple years to simply keep walking. I've yet to be challenged by store employees.
I've done this a bunch of times with the same results. But apparently it's legal for them to actually stop you here in Florida. Anyway, my girlfriend is usually with me when I'm at the store, and even if I keep walking she'll stop, so it kind of defeats the purpose.
Those chains, again, won't make more than a token effort to stop you, lest you sue them if you're truly innocent.
My understanding is that in Florida you can't sue them, even if you're totally innocent, if the alarm goes off.
As I am tall-but-skinny, I can always make the 98-# weakling case when it comes to a determination of whether or not -- in my mind -- I was in fear for my life, which is the current standard in such cases.
Hopefully they won't find this slashdot post and know that it was premeditated.
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Re:Well its official
This isn't insane at all! This is a very common means by which rival organizations operate.
Take NASA's reaction to a local threat here.
Here's the flyover.. . . (Tallahassee Florida)
http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/library/re leases/2001/february/space_shuttle-02-22-01.html
Here's the rival organization known as 4-H who is openly spreading secret rocket technology to small children.. . (Tallahassee Florida)
http://www.florida-agriculture.com/news/10-22-01.h tm
For those of you who do not know . . The 4-H oranization is involved with helping children with a high DDT PPM count with being more efficient at redneck/farmer activities.
If I were NASA I would have been very concerned too. A flyover was definately called for in this situation.
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Re:Ummm - it's not offline
Stop being so damn ignorant. A sexual offender, is by definition, someone who does something sexual to a child. I mean, as long as we are still arguing in reality.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode =View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statut e&Search_String=&URL=CH0944/Sec606.HTM
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Re:New Privacy Law
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Actually,
you both have it 100% wrong. What makes it a felony is, "Whoever willfully, knowingly, and without authorization: Accesses or causes to be accessed any computer, computer system, or computer network;. That's Chapter 815.06(1)(a) of Florida Statutes. That section is the one that pertains to Computer-Related Crimes. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App
_ mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0815/ch0815.htm Wardriving, per se is not a violation. Finding a hot spot is not access within the definition of Section 815. Once you "instruct, communicate with, store data in, retrieve data from, or otherwise make use of any computer network", THEN you have accessed it. In this case he DID get into trouble for "stealing" Wi-Fi. -
Re:Any good lawyer could prove this bogus
A good analogy is not a defense against a felony. Although not actually mentioned in TFA, he was probably charged under 815.06. You can read it at http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App
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Re:Florida, Florida
You mean who helped stop the Fla court from changing the local election law after the election
In reality (as opposed to the warped mind of whatever right-wing radio host/blogger/tv personality you got that idea from) the Fla court said that the votes should be counted according to state election law which said that if "a candidate for any office was defeated or eliminated by one-quarter of a percent or less of the votes cast for such office...the board responsible for certifying the results of the vote on such race or measure shall order a manual recount of the overvotes and undervotes cast in the entire geographic jurisdiction of such office (Title IX, Chapter 102, Section 166, Paragraph 1 of the Florida State Code) and " A vote for a candidate or ballot measure shall be counted if there is a clear indication on the ballot that the voter has made a definite choice." (Paragraph 5a of same.) Now that that is out of the way feel free to explain what law the Fla Supreme Court was trying to change and how they were changing it and ?The LA Times, NY Times, and Washington Post all conducted their own independent counts and found that GWB was the winner.
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Program Policy/Accountability at the state level
There are numerous program policy and accountability agencies at the state level that create similar reports for lawmakers (and the public alike). OPPAGA, the Office of Program Policy Analysis and Government Accountability, is one such example. I worked there for three years, and can safely say these folks are the most smart, objective folks around when it comes to issues that matter to state government. Almost all of their reports are available online in PDF format.
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Megan's Law
In case you're wondering who's in your neighborhood...
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Alabama [state.al.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Alaska [state.ak.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Arizona [az.gov]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Arkansas [megans-law.net]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of California [ca.gov]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Colorado [state.co.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Connecticut [state.ct.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Delaware [state.de.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Florida [state.fl.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Georgia [ganet.org]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Hawaii [megans-law.net]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Idaho [state.id.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Illinois [state.il.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Indiana [in.gov]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Iowa [iowasexoffender.com]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Kansas [accesskansas.org]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Kentucky [state.ky.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Louisiana [lsp.org]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Maine [megans-law.net]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Maryland [state.md.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Massachusetts [mass.gov]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Michigan [state.mi.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Minnesota [state.mn.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Mississippi [state.ms.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Missouri [missouri.gov]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Montana [state.mt.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Nebraska [state.ne.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of Nevada [nvsexoffenders.gov]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of New Hampshire [nh.gov]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of New Jersey [njsp.org]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of New Mexico [state.nm.us]
Registered Sex Offenders In The State Of New York [sta -
Re:The Desperate Need For Validation In The x86 Wo
Yeah... They'll make *allot* of money when 3rd party devs tell them to feck off and no one buys the new and crappy Intel Macs, because there's no software for them... Cause you know M$ will be more than happy to port Office over to MacOS X on Intel competing head-to-head w/ Winblows.. And sumers will rush out in droves to buy systems that can't run Office... And I'm sure Adobe will be more than happy to port their software over... So there'll be plenty of apps for us all to rebuy (upgrade? ha! no that's a new platform you need to buy the full version! Ha! I mean sorry sir...)
Yep lots of $$$ to be made...
If SJ does this he needs to trip to FL so someone can have him mentally evaluated under the Baker Act... http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/mentalhealth/laws/index .shtml
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Re:My rights?
I agree with you about blacks getting harsher sentances, however the difference was "only" 25% between 1994-96, which in no way accounts for the fact that Blacks were 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide in 2002 (although it should be noted these are different dates). The War on drugs should not affect these figures as they are based on homicide, not drug related offences - in fact the War on Drugs could in theory bring down drug related murders.
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Re:PreventionRecidivism rates are actually much higher. Florida's overall recidivism rate was 12.5% within 6 months for men.. sex offense were much higher, especially over time. See this article and this report.
But what makes it complicated is how "sexual offender" is defined -- in Florida, committing, attempting, conspiring or soliciting to commit "Distribution of obscene materials to minor under the age of 18". So that means that an 18 year old buys porn for his 17 year old friend, and gets caught, he could become a "sex offender".
Is that really the sort of people we want to be wearing one of these GPS systems the rest of their lives?
Florida does have a legal definition of "sexual preditor" -- some states do not, as I understand it -- which is someone who is:
- Convicted of a "one is enough" offense: violent crimes on children and adults
- Convicted of a lesser sex crime, with a prior felony conviction in the past 10 years (doesn't have to be a sex crime, as I understand it).
So I think it would be quite reasonable to restrict these GPS units things to Sexual Predators.. maybe they'd have to restrict it to only those convicted from now on, though. - Convicted of a "one is enough" offense: violent crimes on children and adults
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Consistent
Looking at Florida's conviction rates (because they were the first state Google found stats for), the average sentence for grand theft ($1000 or more) is almost 3 years. Assuming $20 a DVD, stealing 50 DVDs would count as grand theft, right? These guys leak to way more than 50 people, so they're probably actually getting off light with only 3 years.
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Re:I'm not confident
And as far as I can tell 2004->Ch0562->Section%2011#0562.11>florida code does not make the parental/guardianship exemption.
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Torino Impact Hazard Scale
Has anyone else noticed that the graphic for the Torino Impact Hazard Scale has changed in the last few days? Among other things, Levels 2-4 have had the phrase "New telescopic observations very likely will lead to re-assignment to level 0" added to their descriptions.
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The DOT should give us traffic reports
Where this traffic information come from? This seems like something that you local department of transportation should be providing, but the only thing I can find on the Florida DOT (I live near Orlando) website is this map (http://www3.dot.state.fl.us/trafficinformation/) which is scant on any real data. The only sources of substantive information are local news stations or http://www.traffic.com/.
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About Ray Lemme, the dead Inspector GeneralThere really was a Raymond Lemme, and he did work for the inspector general of the Florida Department of Transportation, and he's dead. He got a brief "memorial" on page 57 of this FDOT annual report.
That's all that comes up in Google. Can anyone find out more? A "suicide" of an inspector general staff member of anything is inherently suspicious.
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Yeah, it DOES look fishy & Bev Harris's critiq
I did some googling. This guy Clinton has a serious beef with Yang Enterprises...him and some lady name of Mavis Georgalis.
Some of it does look kinda fishy "in his favor".
Example: the FL dept. of transportation's inspector general's report on the Georgalis case:
http://www.dot.state.fl.us/inspectorgeneral/Report s/AnnualReport2003.pdf
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OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL
ANNUAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2002-2003
EMPLOYEE MISCONDUCT - REPRESENTATIVE CASE EXAMPLES
Georgalis - This investigation was initiated based on a complaint against Mavis R. Georgalis by Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI), a Florida corporation.
YEI provides information technology services and support under an eight-year (January 20, 1999 to January 20, 2007) and approximately eight million dollar contract for the Department, known as the Electronic Document Management System contract.
The investigation established that Georgalis received travel reimbursements from the Department based on false claims for lodging and meals already paid by YEI. It also disclosed Georgalis engaged in a pattern of misconduct, over several years, by accepting gifts and other gratuities from YEI. These gratuities included trips with YEI officials to Biloxi, Mississippi and Las Vegas, Nevada. Georgalis further created a conflict of interest by accepting gifts from another contractor whom she regulated. Lastly, it has been documented that Georgalis used her position and Department resources to seek other employment opportunities.
Summary of Findings/Resulting Actions
Mavis Georgalis resigned her position with the Florida Department of Transportation on April 1, 2002.
On March 6, 2003 Georgalis was charged with receipt of unlawful compensation (Section 838.016 F.S.) Georgalis surrendered to the Columbia County Sheriff's Office on March 12, 2003 and is awaiting a court date.
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So wait...Yang doesn't like a particular gov't official, so THEY admit to having bribed said official, official gets fired and charged (based on paperwork Yang submits?) and nothing happens to Yang which has connections to Jeb Bush and an FL congressman?
OK, that's...kinda funky. Doesn't mean Clinton isn't full of it of course.
If there is ANYTHING to this story, it looks like this guy Clinton got royally pissed at Yang, enough so to blow the secrecy off a Qui Tam action? Or did the secrecy period on the Qui Tam action already expire? "Qui Tam" whistleblower suits start out "in secret"...I oughta know, Bev and I filed one on Diebold back in Nov. of '03, secrecy wasn't lifted until just a couple months ago.
Damned if I know what's up here. I'm going to wait for more data.
Bev Harris is even more skeptical and has published this:
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Why the Feeney vote-rigging story sounds like disinformation
ABOUT DISINFORMATION: Like a good lie, it has elements of truth. Trouble is, the truth doesn't relate to the nuts and bolts of the story. For example in the Tom Feeney vote-manipulation story, people are documenting relationships between Tom Feeney and Yang, and between the writer of the story and other scandals, but so far the evidence presented does not back up the vote manipulation story itself.
DISINFORMATION IS DANGEROUS TO THE CLEAN VOTING MOVEMENT: Black Box Voting is finding real evidence consistent with fraud. We are even finding, in one of our investigations, evidence consistent with a systemic, or widespread breakdown in security, possibly exploited. Getting the facts is tedious, unexciting work, consisting of auditing and personal interviews, and it takes time. Many Americans want a magic bullet, a single shot that will blow the lid off everything at once.
That's risky. If the mainstream media continues to be bombarded with stories that sound credible, but aren't, when the real thing comes down the pike it will be ignored.
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Re:what the hellSo much for that idea. He was two years off.
Maybe, maybe not... http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsar
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Re:reads like a great movie
The part that seemed most hollywood was the bit about the inspector general auditor ending up dead in valdosta. I've been unable to find anything to validate the death, but florida does have a real inspector general auditor named Mr. Raymond Lemme Just search for his name in this document.
http://www.dot.state.fl.us/businessmodel/pdf/Augus t%202003.pdf
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Re:More votes in Florida than voters
If you go to the web page,
http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/StatusRpt.Asp?Electi onDate=11/2/2004&Datamode=E
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Odd thing about Florida optiscan count
It appears that quite a lot of the actual counted votes in some of the opti-scan counties in Florida look suspiciously like the counts have been given to the wrong candidate. If not then why would less than a third of the dem voters vote dem while the reps get more than double (in Calhoun it's closer to 500%) the count of registered Reps. It almost looks like a systemic failure that occurred in a number of counties.
In Baker for example there were 8926 registered Dems but only 2180 kerry votes, while there were
3126 registered reps but they got 7738 votes. In Liberty the figures look even worse 1927 Rep votes from 320 registered (600% up) while there were 1070 Dem votes from 3597 registered (down to under a third).
Unless people honestly believe that the dem vote was only 25% of registrations while the rep vote was 250% then it would indicate the wrong tally was allocated to the candidates. Apparently the exit polls for Baker county were out by a massive margin as well. (In fact there were more positive Dem responses then dem votes and generally the exit polls run around 50%.)
Now it is curious that the worst of these data irregularities are in the smaller counties, but it would also be these smaller counties that may well have had less money for testing etc. In larger counties it appears that the Repub vote is around +5 to +10% over registrations while the Dems are -10 to -50% under. In Duval the reps are 29000 up while the dems are 80000 down compared to raw registrations.
If you reverse the figures then both parties are running a lot closer to the raw registration figures but with the Reps still getting an extra percentage boost compared to Dems over their registrations.
It is certainly curious why publicised faults and problems are all benefitting the republicans though. What are the odds of 200+ errors across the country (depending on which site you look at) almost all going the republican way.
The data is available from a number of sources but has been tabulated below.
A 'friendly' representation of florida data
http://ustogether.org/election04/FloridaDataStats. htm
Graphic of the worst 8 small counties
http://www.rubberbug.com/temp/Florida2004chart.htm
Raw Stats -
Returns by county
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/canvassing1.pd f
Registrations by county
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voterreg/pdf/2004/ 2004pppParty.pdf
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Odd thing about Florida optiscan count
It appears that quite a lot of the actual counted votes in some of the opti-scan counties in Florida look suspiciously like the counts have been given to the wrong candidate. If not then why would less than a third of the dem voters vote dem while the reps get more than double (in Calhoun it's closer to 500%) the count of registered Reps. It almost looks like a systemic failure that occurred in a number of counties.
In Baker for example there were 8926 registered Dems but only 2180 kerry votes, while there were
3126 registered reps but they got 7738 votes. In Liberty the figures look even worse 1927 Rep votes from 320 registered (600% up) while there were 1070 Dem votes from 3597 registered (down to under a third).
Unless people honestly believe that the dem vote was only 25% of registrations while the rep vote was 250% then it would indicate the wrong tally was allocated to the candidates. Apparently the exit polls for Baker county were out by a massive margin as well. (In fact there were more positive Dem responses then dem votes and generally the exit polls run around 50%.)
Now it is curious that the worst of these data irregularities are in the smaller counties, but it would also be these smaller counties that may well have had less money for testing etc. In larger counties it appears that the Repub vote is around +5 to +10% over registrations while the Dems are -10 to -50% under. In Duval the reps are 29000 up while the dems are 80000 down compared to raw registrations.
If you reverse the figures then both parties are running a lot closer to the raw registration figures but with the Reps still getting an extra percentage boost compared to Dems over their registrations.
It is certainly curious why publicised faults and problems are all benefitting the republicans though. What are the odds of 200+ errors across the country (depending on which site you look at) almost all going the republican way.
The data is available from a number of sources but has been tabulated below.
A 'friendly' representation of florida data
http://ustogether.org/election04/FloridaDataStats. htm
Graphic of the worst 8 small counties
http://www.rubberbug.com/temp/Florida2004chart.htm
Raw Stats -
Returns by county
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/canvassing1.pd f
Registrations by county
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voterreg/pdf/2004/ 2004pppParty.pdf
By the way I didn't vote, I am simply a very concerned world/Aussie citizen. -
Re:Ignorance is no excuse
Ah, yes, those spooooky felons trying to cast votes. The reason for the big crackdown? It turns out that felons cast about 100 votes in the 1997 Miami Mayoral election, out of a few hundred thousand cast.
Like it or not, felons who have not received clemancy are not allowed to vote in Florida. You cannot fault Florida election officials for trying to enforce a law that has been on the books for decades.
Ah, the "pass the buck" game. "We're going to make this list of tens of thousands of felons, and you have to guess which ones are actually felons!" Bullshit. If the state is going to spend 2.3 million dollars for a list that's 95% wrong, it is squarely the fault of the people who paid for that list. And if she tries to make a list for 2002, even when the FL legislature passed a law saying she couldn't, I imagine that's the fault of the Democrats, too?
Florida Election Laws clearly place the responsibility of maintaining county voter registration rolls on the county election officials. There was no legal way for Jeb Bush or Catherine Harris to remove registered voters from the rolls.
That's probably why you didn't have any references, just assertions.
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Waht the article did NOT say...
"In Orlando County, the touch screens crashed."
Nowhere in the article did it say that touch-screen units ceased to function... I don't know where this information came from, but that's what the majority of the posts I've read are quoting.
The article stated "workers had problems connecting with a live database that is used to verify that a voter is properly registered in the county"... this does not mean that the voting units stopped working. The actual voting units aren't even supposed to contain voter-specific information, just internal ballot numbers. In fact, the actual voting consoles don't even connect to the internet for any reason and probably aren't even networked, but the laptops that are used to verify a voter's registration probably are.
It was the online database connection that failed to work for whatever reason ("Salas said it was not yet known what went wrong to cause the glitch."). And "In Orange County, the computers went down for about 10 minutes shortly after voting began, said Margaret Dunn, the senior deputy elections supervisor. She said she did not know what caused the problem, but speculated a faulty Internet connection may have been to blame." doesn't specify anything (beyond suspicious timing) because far too many people (some even in computer-related fields) assume "a network" is the same as "the internet", and thus don't try make any differentiation between the two, not to mention the fact that the often misleading term "speculated" was used (denoting an assumption), instead of "stated" (which would have denoted the information came from some form of expertise or other knowledgeable information source).
The thing that frightens me the most is the apparent willingness that so many people seem to have to want to accept such offhand and baseless connections, all because it's all in the same article, or the article tends to promote a sense of urgency or panic (it's News people, if you're not panicking or getting the warm-fuzzies, the ratings/readership might disappear). It's so often the progression of "there were problems with a part of the new process" becomes "people don't like the new process" becomes "the whole idea of the new process is flawed and therefore should be scrapped or avoided".
In this case, apparently there was a problem with the connection(s) between the registration database server(s) and some of the laptops used to access them, this brings about a comment of "Sally Zwanger, a poll watcher for the Kerry campaign, claimed the problems reflected the inability of Gov. Jeb Bush's administration to fix voting problems left over from the 2000 election" -- who apparently happens to be the only 'honest' person there because "She also said waiting voters were told at 8:30 a.m. that every voting location in Broward County was closed. But she found out after calling the Broward County Elections Office headquarters that the Plantation location and four others were still open." (you'd think that there would be a list of negligent Officials who were spreading the information, which there is, suspiciously, no mention of) -- sparked off a statement by an apparent voter (""They had all the time from when they said the voting machines will be used, all the time to perfect them, and here we are, up the creek,""... as though the voting machines themselves were at fault... she apparently didn't even get that far due to the initial issue) which started a bunch of other voter comments about the situation being ridiculous and frustrating. This in turn rolls into complaints of incomplete absentee ballots being handed out (see http://election.dos.state.fl.us/absenteevoting.sht ml for more information on Florida absentee voting procedures) when voters don't want to use the touch-screen machines. Next comes a list of other states allowing early voting, and even a comment on the ease of us -
Re:Votes Don't Count Yet Anyway
Maybe you're just trolling. If not, see this page.