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Regulation is what got us in the financial mess to begin with.

Yes, never let the facts get in the way of an ideology!

Yes, I know hindsight is 20/20, but really, Fukushima was designed to withstand the vast majority of earthquakes, it was only a freak disaster that caused this.

But it was not hindsight. Prior to the tsunami there were already experts warning about safety of nuclear power plants in Japan and of the type of plant used at Fukushima specifically. A freak disaster was exactly the thing that you should be planning for.

source for what? we have public school system in the US that perform below the standards set just to keep home schooled kids passing.and out of public schools.

Of course this will vary from different areas, and it is not a blanket one is better, but here are some interesting stories showing it..

http://www.cnsnews.com/node/11320

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secondaryeducation/3852653/Faith-school-pupils-outperforming-others-at-every-age.html

http://www.examiner.com/christian-history-in-national/catholic-high-schools-outperform-the-competition

and just to keep a perspective, it appears that if you adjust the schools performances for demographics, its a different result.

http://watchingthewatchers.org/news/576/mythifying-public-school-claims

although demographically adjusted numbers still support the claim that there are some religious school run by religious fundies that out perform public-secular schools.,

Not my estimations...

At the height of the games up to 500,000 spectators are expected to be watching various competitions with as many again attending cultural events.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/london-olympics-business/8255383/2012-Olympics-chiefs-urge-millions-to-avoid-London-to-prevent-transport-chaos.html

Well first of all I think using words like truther and denier just brings in stupid partisan bullshit in what SHOULD be a healthy debate. Correct me if I'm wrong but I kinda thought science was supposed to educate, not be like religion where all that oppose dogma are labeled "other" and attacked?

Now here is what I personally have against the whole climate change, which make up your damned mind is it global warming or global cooling? Climate change is a cop out, the climate has been changing for all of recorded history!

But here is the problem: The ONLY "solution" we have been offered is carbon credits by the likes of Rev Al Gore who neglects to tell you the "inconvenient truth" that he has set himself up to be a carbon billionaire, the same ones that cooked up credit default swaps, aka economy killers are writing the rules for the carbon derivatives market and the most telling to me? notice how YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN Rev Al or his buddies come out in favor of tariffs against India and China, even though both countries have given the finger to carbon scams and said they won't play the game? Why is that? Could it be because Gore and his friends are making crazy monies in China and India, and don't give a fuck that dumping carbon credit scams on top of an already broken economy would royally buttfuck us as long as they can leech a few more sheckles before they bail?

I'm all for using less, we only have one planet and we should take care of it. but the only things i've seen is more bullshit, more scams, more bubbles, more ways for the top 1% to rob the middle class and poor before taking their money and buying another polluting factory in China. Perhaps one should watch this video that explains why you are being had. Reduction yes, carbon scamming, no. oh and lets tax the living fuck out of anything coming from factories that pollute and stop allowing designed for the dump hardware off the boat, okay? hell Newegg is still selling brand new IP V4 routers! Talk about prebuilt garbage!

Yes, Americans are all stupid. That must why we have shit like this going on in our country. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/28/business/main20112612.shtml OR http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8793243/UK-riots-dont-expect-sentences-to-be-cut-judge-tells-rioters.html OR http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8793269/China-population-to-become-worlds-biggest-polluters.html OR http://www.oneafricanow.com/ OR http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/world/asia/dozens-killed-in-attack-on-pilgrim-bus-in-pakistan.html?_r=1&ref=iran.

Yes, Americans are all stupid. That must why we have shit like this going on in our country. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/28/business/main20112612.shtml OR http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8793243/UK-riots-dont-expect-sentences-to-be-cut-judge-tells-rioters.html OR http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8793269/China-population-to-become-worlds-biggest-polluters.html OR http://www.oneafricanow.com/ OR http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/world/asia/dozens-killed-in-attack-on-pilgrim-bus-in-pakistan.html?_r=1&ref=iran.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/reasonmclucus/reasonmclucus/15835660/professor-emiritus-hal-lewis-resigns-from-american-physical-society/

See #3: "This is not science; other forces are at work."

My point exactly.

Nope, not really. See the clarification they posted the next day.

Apparently condoms are acceptable to reduce the risk of infection, but still not acceptable for contraception. How that is supposed to work, I have no clue, since both things go together.

And apparently only male prostitutes should use them. I guess the point of that if you're already going to sin by prostituting yourself, it's somewhat of an improvement to use a condom and avoid spreading illness. But that's a very narrow thing, and in no way looks like an approval to me.

No, the Pope dropped the ban on condoms about a year ago.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/8148944/The-Pope-drops-Catholic-ban-on-condoms-in-historic-shift.html

Now if there are still crazy people out there insisting on it, well, it's not an official stance.

Its been out long enough to become the most popular smartphone OS on the planet, that's how long.

He has a significant financial interest in climate science reaching a particular conclusion.

Do you really believe that Al Gore is motivated by money? Think about that for a moment. What evidence is there for it? I don't even know if he has stocks in renewable energy research companies, or the like, but isn't it plausible that he has invested in said (theoretical?) companies because he has lots of money, and believes that this is a good thing to do?

Can you support your point a little better? It sounds like you are just casting unfounded negative aspirtions.

Clearly you have not followed Gore Jr's life much. His family continues to make millions off of oil stocks given to them as a bribe by Armand Hammer.

Here's Gore sort of being disclosed in 2000:

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=468

Here's Gore being called out for more faux caring:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm

Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.

...and now Gore Jr. is playing both sides.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/03/al-gore-the-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/6491195/Al-Gore-could-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html

Clearly your blinders are locked if you do not understand the clear conflict of interest here. I'm sure the slightest bit of investigative journalism could produce much more incentive.

Rowan Atkinson actually said something very interesting about it (he was, at the time, talking about the right to mock religion):

"It all points to the promotion of the idea that there should be a right not to be offended. But in my view the right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended. The right to ridicule is far more important to society than any right not to be ridiculed because one in my view represents openness - and the other represents oppression." ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1478381/Atkinson-defends-right-to-offend.html )

Going to jail for being unfunny and/or crass is a little extreme (and impractical - we'd need more land that we can spare to house the entirety of 4chan and a plethora of talk show hosts). Also, why should we be able to mock Michael Jackson's death but not a random passerby's? It doesn't cause anyone close to him less grief just because he was a public figure. Which, by the way, anyone who appears in the news once or has a Facebook profile/shrine seems to be, to varying extents, in the web 2.0. Ask Antoine Dodson (or Natasha MacBryde herself, if you happen to have an Ouija board).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/01/climate.change

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3624242/There-IS-a-problem-with-global-warming...-it-stopped-in-1998.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/05/scitech/main20076934.shtml

"Scientists have come up with a possible explanation for why the rise in Earth's temperature paused for a bit during the 2000s, one of the hottest decades on record."

Why are you commenting on my explicitly offensive remark to someone who has clearly deserved it?

I called him an asshole, while providing possible motivation for his post.
Yet, you breezed over my offensive remark in order so you could preach "freedom to offend" - by using a quote.

A quote, might I add, from this article - where this also was said, by that very same Rowan Atkinson.

To criticise a person for their race is manifestly irrational and ridiculous but to criticise their religion - that is a right. That is a freedom," he said.

So basically, your preach-quote was spoken in the same breath as that one above where he basically concurs with my diagnosis that the OP is an asshole.
Of the stupid sort.

I sure as hell hope that your irony detector was already broken before you posted that.
I don't want to be the one responsible for it exploding and killing/maiming you.

People's satisfaction with what they own or make is based on how it compares to others, not any kind of absolute scale. In fact, pretty much all social perceptions are based on relative values. A lot of these things are hard-wired, and the idea of evolutionary biology and psychology didn't exist in Marx's time; I'd recommend looking into behavioural economics for a lot of fascinating research into people's economic behaviour.

This is the same Maxime Bernier who left his then-girlfriend (a , among others) secret documents.. He was forced to resign

It takes a lot of gall to keep lying about it, as you are doing. The Chinese government has never denied that some blood was shed in the 1989 Tiananmen incident. What they have been consistently saying was that no blood was spilled in Tiananmen Square itself, and that has been confirmed by Wikileaks. But go ahead, keep lying about it if it makes you feel better.

Did it include the bit about Microsoft execs being a bunch of debauched rapists?

"One of Microsoft’s top female managers was forced to seek protection and flee a debauched staff party after a married senior executive of the company stumbled into the ladies’ lavatories and later made unwanted advances towards her."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/8736644/Microsofts-top-female-manager-fled-debauchery.html

And, in fairness, China has chosen between industry with little or no controls, and pollution/the environment.

For the same reason that a lot of Chinese children fell ill when their milk powder was laced with melamine ... because there are either no controls, or it's really easy to bypass them. Ultimately, they exported this to us as pet food.

Hell, even if Apple (or whoever) had stipulated that they do it all according to the book because they wanted to be ethical, there's no guarantee it would have happened. China is more or less completely unregulated capitalism run amok. I must say, I am completely unsurprised by any of this.

And, really, pretty much anywhere in the world, industry will consistently do things like this if nobody is doing an effective job of policing them ... greed and short cuts for profit know no cultural boundaries.

Corporations in America would burn kittens, babies, and the flag for fuel if it was cost effective and nobody stopped them. Especially if you could bribe the people who were supposed to keep you honest.

How about some more links? How about the fact that the ones who thought up credit default swaps, aka economy killers, are now in charge of the carbon credit scam?

Or how about how Rev Al Gore, Mr "inconvenient truth himself" has set himself up to be the world's first carbon billionaire? BTW did you know he has the ecologically friendly brass balls to say having a house with an indoor basketball court that blows more AC than TWENTY family of four homes, and who farts around on a private LEAR JET is complete CARBON NEUTRAL? How is that miracle able to occur? By paying himself credits from his own company that's how! it would be like you moving money from your left to right pocket, calling it "wealth redistribution" and demanding AND GETTING a tax break for doing it!

One final note: You notice that NEVER, not even once, have you seen Rev Al and the AGWers call for tariffs on china and India, even though both have said they won't play his little carbon games? you know why that is? because they make money on offshoring duh! More MONIES nom nom nom!

WAKE UP! Both sides are COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT and have been corrupted by money so damned badly that if one of the "scientists" on EITHER side tells you its raining your ass better stick your arm out the window! The winner will take BILLIONS OF DOLLARS from the people who can least afford it, the working poor. BOTH SIDES want to fuck you HARD.

A sensible plan would be to stay as we are now, to keep raising standards while investing in technology TO BE BUILT HERE that would give us the energy we need. but that will never happen if either side wins, why? because they can't make massive profits THAT way stupid! More MONIES nom nom nom!

Hey man, are you Steve Jobs? Am a young /.er http://telegraph.co.uk/technology/steve-jobs/8721479/Steve-Jobs-resigns-as-CEO-of-Apple.html here

A dancing robotic arm ! Usually humans need legs to dance

And here's one of the exceptions to your "usually".

That clock has been started a long time ago (also see sig).

The people of Libya and especially the youth, who with neither training nor experience and at great personal risk, took up arms to liberate themselves from decades of brutal oppression deserve the highest praise for their actions.

Yeah, especially those valiant freedom fighters serving under this guy.

What a load of bollox.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/8585437/Airbus-pulls-Grizzly-out-of-Paris-Air-Show.html
http://event.airbus.com/airshows/bourget2011/news/news-detail/article/airbus-with-new-order-record-at-paris-air-show-2011.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43515274/ns/business-us_business/t/airbus-soars-over-boeing-saleswise-air-show/

But you are right if everyone looked at their top end products at least Airbus have one you can actually buy. 827 orders for something for which 0 have been delivered isn't worth anything, I bet over 95% of those contract are voidable purely due to the delays in achieving delivery milestones.

To go back to the original posers point the current new orders on products lines that can be delivered is a better indicator or which organisation is doing better. The future looks sweet for Airbus.

I believe a giant asteroid is gonna hit the world in the next 50 years. Do you have evidence it is not? We have smaller ones hitting constantly, so how do you KNOW there isn't a bigger one out there? You don't.

Therefor you should give me 50 beeelion dollars so that I can build my anti asteroid protection system. We can just tax everyone, we'll call it a "mineral derivative" and we can even set up markets to trade in them! Of course coming in on the ground floor I'll make a slight profit but that's only fair, since it was my brilliance that thought it up, right?

That is completely false, smoking provides immediate effects in small increments(assuming plant matter) which make it the easiest way to regulate intake for stuff that, unlike THC, is actually dangerous to you.
Take opium. Smoked overdoses seem to have happened historically but I was unable to find any report verifiable by modern science.
People still die today eating or drinking the stuff:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8480191/Ex-Tory-MPs-son-died-after-eating-opium-on-gap-year.html
I've only ever smoked cigars, but I can tell you that had I eaten them to get a Tobacco buzz, I'd have died in the first try.

Prime Minister David Cameron said:

Mr Cameron said: “What happened on our streets was absolutely appalling behaviour and to send a very clear message that it’s wrong and won’t be tolerated is what the criminal justice system should be doing.

Mr Cameron is no stranger to appalling behaviour, being a former member of the Bullingdon Club, "notorious for its members' wealth and destructive binges". The club song apparently goes: "Buller, Buller, Buller! Buller, Buller, Buller! We are the famous Bullingdon Club, and we don't give a fuck!"

Cameron's 'Buller' escapades include running from the police through the streets of Oxford after a heavy flowerpot was thrown through a restaurant window.

This is pretty common. The woman who wrote all those harry potter books did it on the dole. When she got her payout she ran for the US to prevent having to pay the UK tax rates that pay for things like the dole.

I don't get this post. You're completely wrong. J.K. Rowling did start the books while on the dole, but she did NOT "run for the US" to avoid taxes. On the contrary, she specifically refused to leave the UK (she currently resides in Edinburgh, Scotland), because she felt she owes a debt to the welfare state of Britain. Here are her actual words, from here:
 
 

A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major's Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism.

It's pretty clear she's a better person than you are; and I don't understand why you'd post something as far from the truth as you did. Maybe there exists a pathological condition that afflicts conservatives and creates an irressistible compulsion to lie? Just like the other right-winger who suggested Stephen Hawking would have died had he depended on the British National Health Service? (see here or here.

Here's an article from 2009 which shows a stark difference between the US and the UK. The article compares the statistics of the USA, UK and several other western European countries about halfway down the page.

I guess you missed what I said

I read exactly what you said. You said one problem. Yet I had linked to an article which described multiple problems on that day, and linked back to the stabbing of two weeks before. That isn't "one".

I'm sure you're right. The police just overstepped the mark, and decided to hack an innocent man's messages JUST IN CASE he decides to murder under the guise of being in a water pistol fight.

I think you need to calm down. There's no evidence of "hacking", and the encryption on system is strong enough that the police couldn't decipher the messages without RIM (A Canadian company) cooperating. The Occam's razor explanation is that someone forwarded BBM to the police because they were concerned.

Additionally the possibility that possibility that this wasn't really a water fight being planned hasn't occurred to you. Even though it's only a week ago that riots were being planned through the same service.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/blackberry/8702164/UK-riots-Essex-police-charge-man-over-BlackBerry-Messenger-water-fight-plot.html

*IF* this truly was a simple water fight, then he won't end up with a criminal record, as that isn't illegal. Trouble is you're not admitting the possibility that there is more to this than you realise.

Uh huh. you DO realize that there are BILLIONS to be made from the biggest scam since CDOs, which of course i'm referring to carbon credits, aka "indulgences for the 21st century" yes? That Mr "inconvenient truth" as set himself to become a carbon billionaire by leeching off the west with said scam, yes?

Or that rev Al also farts around in a personal Lear jet and has a house with an indoor basketball court that sucks down more AC than 30 single family dwellings while telling you that YOU must pay? That he also has the giant brass balls to say those very same energy pigs are 'carbon neutral" because he pays himself with credits from his own company which would be like me moving money from my left to right pocket and calling it "wealth redistribution" and demanding and GETTING a tax credit for doing so?

Old Rev Al Gore is just ONE example of the leeches set to make a killing from this. If you'd like I can show you the same person who helped to invent CDOs is now helping to create carbon derivatives or let you see that Goldman Sachs, kings of leeches are all ready to blow some carbon bubbles but why bother? you'll just deny it and mod me down, yes?

Anyone that thinks this whole thing doesn't come down to $$$ is frankly a fool. And notice how NEVER, not once, have you EVER seen Al Gore and friends come out in favor of heavy tariffs for China and India, who both have said they won't play the carbon game? Why is that? Because they make money off of them silly! In the end it all comes down to 'More monies for teh RICH nom nom nom" while yet again fucking the poor and if you think these people actually give a flying fuck about saving the planet I have a nice bridge to nowhere you might be interested in.

It has already been done. There was the EgyptAir Flight 990.. EgyptAir Flight 990..
From the transcript of the cockpit voice recorder.

0150:05.89 I rely on God.

0150:06.37 what's happening? what's happening?

0150:07.07 I rely on God.

0150:07.11 [sound of numerous thumps and clinks continue for approximately fifteen seconds]

0150:08.20 [repeating hi-low tone similar to Master Warning aural start and continues to the end of recording]

0150:08.48 I rely on God.

0150:08.53 what's happening?

0150:15.15 what's happening, Gamil? what's happening?

Ultimately you have to be able to trust the people on the flight deck. That didn't do the people on Air France Flight 447. Considering that NTSB investigations put most of the blame on pilot error, they ultimately have the responsibility for your safety. What sense does it make to run them through a nudeo-scan 5000 or a metal detector at all? there's also hundreds of employees at every major airport who have access to the aircraft and maintenance systems. At some point you have to trust them with your safety as well. I'd trade a metal detector for a breathalyzer test for them though.

The problem with the TSA, and as has been pointed out many times, is that they're are looking for the last thing that terrorists tried. Underwear bombers necessitate nudeo-scans. Richard Reid had a little explosive in his shoes, so now they have to be x-rayed. Somebody thought that somebody was trying to mix liquids so now no baby formula through the scanners.

I fly, 2 to 4 times a week and I'll tell you what the biggest problem with airline security is: It's the people of the TSA, the lack of consistency and the don't care attitude. Yes, they would like to be doing something else, perhaps flipping burgers or selling insurance but they wound up with a blue uniform checking 1000s of passengers a day who don't like the whole process. They also don't pay attention as well. Here's a true story, I go to the self service machine to check in, get my boarding pass. I go through the line and proceed to my gate. When boarding the plane the gate scanner doesn't "beep" to indicate that I'm okay to board. Why? I have somebody else's boarding pass with their name on it. The guy at the TSA line who looked at it and my ID and me, didn't say a word. Wow, talk about making me feel safe?

Here's what has to happen, get viscous dogs, guys in cammos and start walking the lines. If the next terrorist is in that line you can bet he'd start sweating and then spot, not the TSA SPOT, can do the rest.

there's a difference between expenses fraud and burglary, theft, robbery, assault and arson.

I wasn't comparing expenses fraud to common assault, I was comparing it to petty theft. I'm far from alone in noting the double standards although I refuse to entertain the conceit of "morality".

Fortunately, the Belgian government doesn't exist, so this is the perfect solution :)

The question is, how did these people get into a position where this was considered OK? Because of the lack of education, jobs and social stability for many of these kids.

No. Lots of them are, but not all, and that's not the cause. Laura Johnson is the posh-grammar-school-and-Exeter daughter of a wealthy businessman. There are others, too.

The first thing that they really do all have in common is that they're all kids. Don't dismiss that: it's been true since ancient Greece that kids do stupid, violent things in groups—the drunk youth after symposia would roam the streets of Athens looking to get into fights; the mutilation of the Herms was the biggest act of young vandalism of all ancient history. The "Angry Youth" of 1968 or 2011 or any other time is never an innovation; the difference is the pretense under which youth exerts violence in testing its limits: sometimes it's "philosophy," sometimes "politics," sometimes "religion," sometimes "greed." The London looters certainly had greed going for them, and some of them seem to have believed they were taking back something owed them (see the entitlement comment above). But these are all adopted reasons that serve to cover the historical truth that youth wants to test its power and often does so in mindblowingly dumb ways.

The other major thing going on is a newfound and uncomplicated organizational competence, quickly discovered in the wake of the first riots over Duggan. The poor among the looters especially seem to have been gang members or affiliates, and they now have fairly secure electronic communications (Blackberry) that let them coordinate a flash mob—ensuring that overwhelming numbers arrive at a point simultaneously to loot and escape, thuggery updated to the era of shock-and-awe. They're also sharing this information with other gangs and descending together on areas that often aren't home-turf to any of the gangs involved, which increases the numbers of looters available for a raid. Thus the kids can arrive along multiple vectors in overwhelming numbers, loot, and often disperse in multiple directions before the police can respond with adequate force to arrest them—and the kids know it. That gives them a sense of impunity, which feeds the testing of limits.

Check the footage on the news websites, the social media websites on youtube.. The looters are multi-racial.

No white people being hunted by the police at all, sure:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/8690951/London-riots-CCTV-pictures-of-suspects-are-released-by-the-Metropolitan-Police.html

Keep your racist bullshit off here please.

Posting anonymously, because cowardice is sometimes in order.

In Manchester, the crime boss of neighbouring Salford has been arrested.

Some of the London activity may have been political, but the looting in Manchester and Salford was just mass robbery. Social problems may have helped Noonan recruit these looters, but organised crime supplied the organisation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8693843/UK-riots-suspected-Manchester-gangster-Dominic-Noonan-arrested.html

No, Apple demanded it back. Steve Jobs even personally called, but Gizmodo refused:

According to newly released California state court documents Jobs, also the company's chief executive, personally contacted Brian Lam, the editor of Gizmodo.com which obtained the sensitive device, asking they return it.

The New York-based technology gadget website said it would only return the device if Apple confirmed its authenticity.

Sounds like extortion to me.

Not really. If you call me up and ask me to send you a phone that I bought on E-bay, I am going to start by asking you if it is your phone. If you say,"I can neither confirm not deny that the phone is mine. But, send it anyway." Why would I send it to you?

No, Apple demanded it back. Steve Jobs even personally called, but Gizmodo refused:

According to newly released California state court documents Jobs, also the company's chief executive, personally contacted Brian Lam, the editor of Gizmodo.com which obtained the sensitive device, asking they return it.

The New York-based technology gadget website said it would only return the device if Apple confirmed its authenticity.

Sounds like extortion to me.

I don't see anybody on those pictures who isn't wearing good enough clothing, without some corporate logo on them. However I do see that the guys, who tried to protect their properties were murdered. This speaks volumes:

First: the thugs are pieces of shit, never new real poverty, taken care of by the state, regardless if their flats are tiny. Fuck them. Why aren't they living in the woods in rat holes? That's where they actually belong.

Second: the individuals who were killed couldn't protect themselves, and what they needed were guns and enough ammo to shoot at the attacking crowd. The law abiding individuals are the ones who are suffering: paying taxes to support the thugs and then paying with their lives because when the thugs come to get them, they don't have any protection thanks to the government.

Time to make some money on guns.

It's right here on google or here.

My argument wasn't that we should bow down to all this and censor ourselves at all. I was just pointing out that with incidents like the above, I see no hyperbole at all in GP's post. Giving these people a database like that IS just like giving a toddler a loaded gun with the hammer pulled back.

While that particular incident was in the U.K., there is plenty to go around, including the great Boston Light Bright scare.

Actually, read the sources: the injunction, or whatever it is called in Europe, is to stop selling the devices in all of the European Union countries, except Neatherlands.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/samsung/8691707/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-10.1-blocked-in-Europe.html

So apparently, there is such a thing as "injunction in Europe." It may be called differently thoug, but the effect is the same.

        dZ.

Actually newspapers and blogs are also mentioning the odd Blackberry usage. Allegedly some of the rioters were bragging about how the police don't monitor Blackberrys unlike Facebook etc. London riots: how BlackBerry Messenger played a key role, London riots: how BlackBerry Messenger has been used to plan two nights of looting.

I wouldn't expect intelligence agencies to be "naive non-technical" workers either, but in the UK numerous government secrets were released accidentally, because the agency simply changed the background color to black for top-secret data, and then published it to the web.

You'd be very popular in these places, all of which could produce more food on their own if government was not taxing and subsidizing and regulating food in the world:

Swaziland: HIV patients 'eat dung to make drugs work'

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/out_of_food_zimbabweans_eating_cow_dung/

Food Prices Fuel Egypt Unrest

Egypt and Tunisia usher in the new era of global food revolutions

Spike in global food prices contributes to Tunisian violence

Food price jumps protested in Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

Egypt and Tunisia: rocked by the global food crisis

Hunger in Syria, Libya and Yemen

Ukraine to control food prices

Rising food prices increase squeeze on poor - Oxfam

As Food Prices Spike, Azerbaijanis Endure Border Chaos To Shop In Iran

For dummies: The impact of the global food crisis on Azerbaijan - in pictures

Estonia Raises Inflation Forecast on Global Food and Fuel Prices

Nigeria: food price up as inflationary rate drop

High food prices 'caused Niger hunger'

Mexico: Food prices reach record high

China's food price inflation hits 14.4% in June

Lithuania and Latvia catching up with Estonia

Food prices rise, wages donâ(TM)t

China food prices spike as floods ruin farmland

Brazil: Food Prices Surge and Head Toward Dangerous Levels

Rise in food prices causing major concerns in Russia

Stockpiling as Russian food prices soar

Food prices have soared most in Venezuela, Bolivia and Argentina

Thousands protest against high food prices in Delhi

India: A spike in food prices is especially painful for the poor

You'd be very popular in these places, all of which could produce more food on their own if government was not taxing and subsidizing and regulating food in the world:

Swaziland: HIV patients 'eat dung to make drugs work'

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/out_of_food_zimbabweans_eating_cow_dung/

Food Prices Fuel Egypt Unrest

Egypt and Tunisia usher in the new era of global food revolutions

Spike in global food prices contributes to Tunisian violence

Food price jumps protested in Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

Egypt and Tunisia: rocked by the global food crisis

Hunger in Syria, Libya and Yemen

Ukraine to control food prices

Rising food prices increase squeeze on poor - Oxfam

As Food Prices Spike, Azerbaijanis Endure Border Chaos To Shop In Iran

For dummies: The impact of the global food crisis on Azerbaijan - in pictures

Estonia Raises Inflation Forecast on Global Food and Fuel Prices

Nigeria: food price up as inflationary rate drop

High food prices 'caused Niger hunger'

Mexico: Food prices reach record high

China's food price inflation hits 14.4% in June

Lithuania and Latvia catching up with Estonia

Food prices rise, wages donâ(TM)t

China food prices spike as floods ruin farmland

Brazil: Food Prices Surge and Head Toward Dangerous Levels

Rise in food prices causing major concerns in Russia

Stockpiling as Russian food prices soar

Food prices have soared most in Venezuela, Bolivia and Argentina

Thousands protest against high food prices in Delhi

India: A spike in food prices is especially painful for the poor

I bet it would get pretty personal for you if you came to these places and started spouting your socialist views on how cheap food is that your government is subsidizing farmers and then paying farmers to destroy it

Swaziland: HIV patients 'eat dung to make drugs work'

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/out_of_food_zimbabweans_eating_cow_dung/

Food Prices Fuel Egypt Unrest

Egypt and Tunisia usher in the new era of global food revolutions

Spike in global food prices contributes to Tunisian violence

Food price jumps protested in Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

Egypt and Tunisia: rocked by the global food crisis

Hunger in Syria, Libya and Yemen

Ukraine to control food prices

Rising food prices increase squeeze on poor - Oxfam

As Food Prices Spike, Azerbaijanis Endure Border Chaos To Shop In Iran

For dummies: The impact of the global food crisis on Azerbaijan - in pictures

Estonia Raises Inflation Forecast on Global Food and Fuel Prices

Nigeria: food price up as inflationary rate drop

High food prices 'caused Niger hunger'

Mexico: Food prices reach record high

China's food price inflation hits 14.4% in June

Lithuania and Latvia catching up with Estonia

Food prices rise, wages donâ(TM)t

China food prices spike as floods ruin farmland

Brazil: Food Prices Surge and Head Toward Dangerous Levels

Rise in food prices causing major concerns in Russia

Stockpiling as Russian food prices soar

Food prices have soared most in Venezuela, Bolivia and Argentina

Thousands protest against high food prices in Delhi

India: A spike in food prices is especiall

I bet it would get pretty personal for you if you came to these places and started spouting your socialist views on how cheap food is that your government is subsidizing farmers and then paying farmers to destroy it

Swaziland: HIV patients 'eat dung to make drugs work'

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/out_of_food_zimbabweans_eating_cow_dung/

Food Prices Fuel Egypt Unrest

Egypt and Tunisia usher in the new era of global food revolutions

Spike in global food prices contributes to Tunisian violence

Food price jumps protested in Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

Egypt and Tunisia: rocked by the global food crisis

Hunger in Syria, Libya and Yemen

Ukraine to control food prices

Rising food prices increase squeeze on poor - Oxfam

As Food Prices Spike, Azerbaijanis Endure Border Chaos To Shop In Iran

For dummies: The impact of the global food crisis on Azerbaijan - in pictures

Estonia Raises Inflation Forecast on Global Food and Fuel Prices

Nigeria: food price up as inflationary rate drop

High food prices 'caused Niger hunger'

Mexico: Food prices reach record high

China's food price inflation hits 14.4% in June

Lithuania and Latvia catching up with Estonia

Food prices rise, wages donâ(TM)t

China food prices spike as floods ruin farmland

Brazil: Food Prices Surge and Head Toward Dangerous Levels

Rise in food prices causing major concerns in Russia

Stockpiling as Russian food prices soar

Food prices have soared most in Venezuela, Bolivia and Argentina

Thousands protest against high food prices in Delhi

India: A spike in food prices is especiall

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