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Re:They will revert and block him eventually
Which country puts religion on passports? Maybe Iran? Probably not...
I suspect you've had your edits pulled because you're a racist fuckwit, not because of "the evul libruls."
Pakistan does/did. Was news back in early '00s.
India doesn't have the information ON the passport but it is/was required in the forms when getting them.Good to know, I know some ME nations ask for it on forms too, Israel has it on some ID systems. But I'd wager the vast majority of nations don't...
An admission that you already knew that various countries put religious affiliation on IDs, then moving the goalposts after someone backs up the claim that some countries print religion on passports (e.g., https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/s...).
The AC may be a fuckwit, but you're hardly better.
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Re:Fantastic achievement by ISRO
The UK should take itâ(TM)s paltry aid shove it up itâ(TM)s ass as asked by the Indians in 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new... very recently India offered Afghanistan $1 bn in fresh aid https://tribune.com.pk/story/1... India has massive problems but itâ(TM)s not like it is begging the Brits and it is making massive progress by itself..
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Re:Don't Panic
Yeah now with the pound low, I might even want to do tourism on that island.
So see, the brexit which has destroyed two trillion, its great for the tourism economy at least!
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So Will The Dalai Lama Be Deleted
http://tribune.com.pk/story/11...
Seems what he is saying now qualifies as hate speech.
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Re:What a strange comparison
I don't know if you're old enough to remember when Apple ruled the education market at all levels. I had the CFO of Apple tell me straight to my face that the "bite" out of the Apple logo represented their undying commitment to education.
Then he (or you) made that up out of whole cloth.
The Bite (byte) out of the Apple was originally to let people more easily recognize the image as an Apple, rather than a Cherry.
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Re:maybe
Perhaps there is another explanation - what you think you know or believe isn't true, including the idea that this is "anti 'east' propaganda" from the US. This has been a concern for many years, long before 2001.
Female genital mutilation in Pakistan, and beyond
The sad reality, however, is that although FGM is widely common in African countries, most people are unaware that this brutal practice is in Pakistan too.
What happens in Pakistan
In Pakistan, the act of FGM is practiced amongst select areas and communities – one example being the Bohra Muslims. There are roughly about 100,000 Bohra Muslims in the country, mostly in the southern regions of Pakistan, such as Sindh. In recent years, due to a rise in strict sect religious compliance by the Bohra Muslims, the practice of FGM has increased. Unless the Bohra chief, known as Dai, issues a decree to forbid the act, the practice will remain firmly rooted in the people’s culture and will continue to be practiced. . . .
What clerics say
Since the State of Pakistan is an Islamic country, let’s take a look at what Islam says about the practice.
To begin with, the Holy Quran does not bear even a single mention of female circumcision. In addition to this, there is no Hadith that mandates this practice. However, some have argued that one Hadith, although not requiring it, appears to accept the practice:
“Circumcision is a commendable act for men (Sunnah) and is an honourable thing for women” (Makromah).
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wait a second!
that makes me ponder, were these cuts accidental or red herrings?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/06/georgian-woman-cuts-web-access
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4267160
http://tribune.com.pk/story/527148/undersea-internet-cable-cut-effects-50-of-pakistans-traffic/
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/mar/28/damaged-undersea-cable-internet-disruptioni'm aware you can tap fiber without disrupting it but it's underwater which seems difficult to start with and it doesn't mean all the cuts were by the NSA. (since apparently everyone is spy happy)
everything is suspicious now
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Re:Exspensive
Yes. Anybody with a cheap Harbor Freight welder and Chinese 7" mini lathe can produce a gun.
Indeed. A good example of what can be done with a bit of knowledge combined with a lathe and some very basic tools can be found in Darra, Pakistan. http://tribune.com.pk/story/458310/the-legendary-gunsmiths-of-darra-adam-khel/
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Re:Before commenting, please remember...
I used to this the same too, but then I read this...
YMMV
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Striesand effect (I think?)
As a Pakistani, I can only find this hilarious, albeit morbidly so.
You see, all they have succeeded in making sure that *every* one knows how to use proxies.
You see, as long as people got their damn facebook and youtube, no one gave a flying hoot about anything else. We (including I myself) didn't know there was even a way to access websites banned by the PTA, and since we were *good* boys and girls, we didn't care about *bad* websites being closed, so we didn't bother finding out how we could access them.
Now, they can't access youtube, well guess what, people started asking, how can we access restricted websites? Answer: Proxies etc.
We are not bad people, right? We just want to access youtube to watch University lectures (pakistan's virtual university has a youtube channel with all their lectures online), how to stitch clothes (my mom's favourite, she learnt many a good cloth making designs on youtube) etc...
And while we are doing this to only access youtube now, well, a proxy opens the way to *all* websites.
Now even the websites they would *genuinely* want people to stop visiting (porn etc) are open to all. Guess what, my dear local mullah, you have only succeeded in making sure people now have the tools to visit the same evil websites you wanted to stop.
Yeah, all that, um, *effort*, that 15 year old kid did to find and collate a list of 780,000 porn websites for the govt to ban? The internet routes around obstructions, b'ch!
Not that the govt cares either way, they are busy making sure the bhutto dynasty can continue on... these are all attention diversion tactics, to hide the fact that I can't find gas for a week (btw, Gas means CNG in local context, Petrol is hardly ever used, though even *that* has run out! yeah our govt is awesome)
And it's not like *anyone* is pretending they are *not* using youtube; for example, TV channels often put their programs on youtube for people to view, and obviously they must be using proxies, since they haven't switched to other websites. They bald-faced-ly give links to the youtube version on their facebook page, for example.
But no one can dare admit that the youtube ban is a farce, or they will be part of the *blasphemous* campaign. Also, apparently, by Pakistan banning youtube, we have brought down Google to it's knees (I have seen actual *statistics* to that effect, don't ask me where they got their figures from), we are winning! We can't give up a step away from victory!
Vive la révolution islamique!
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Re:Really?
As the Resident Pakistani Slashdotteur (lol a la francaise), allow me to elucidate.
Frankly, our dear PM is pulling a Kirchner. You might be wondering, what the hell does the Argentine President have to do with this? The answer is: both pull-out totally unrelated issues to hide the real deal. For Kirchner it's the Falklands, for our dear prime-minister, its the religion card.
The economy is in the shitter, our PM raison d'etre is to prevent our president from being jailed (no really, that is why he was appointed, to continue the job when the court dismissed the other one for doing the same), people are jobless, we have rolling blackouts, and the government is doing literally nothing except scheme to extend their reign.
So when your popularity is below that of a rabid dog, you will clutch at straws. And how nice of the US to provide some.
And then our leaders will conveniently realise they are Muslims, and suddenly act all pious. The bastards, even the president of Uruguay is more muslim than you!
Fear not, this is just hot air, our PM will just bark out popular sentiments, and ride out the wave. And when his popularity graph is high, and people have been sufficiently distracted from the fact that people are summarily shipping their entire frikin' factories en masse to such *backward* locations as Bangladesh and Kenya, they will go back to saving the President from the Swiss courts.
(I have lived in Kenya ['94-'99], best fucking place in the universe, everything I have ever learnt, I owe it to my black, christian, teachers there. They knocked into me my habit of reading, and I can't thank them enough)
Look, we know the real deal, we know that the Friday holiday (with conveniently down cellphone networks) was not about protesting, it was for their thugs to have a grand loot.
And our dear blasphemy law, you think non-muslims are the only target? It's a very convenient law to eliminate people you don't like, muslim or non-muslim (like the poor building owner, who was *turned* in by his non paying tenant...)
Our *democracy* is a farce, our people are intentionally being kept illiterate by feudal lords (best thing India ever did was to eliminate the landlord system).We have no fucking clue what the hell is going on.
Like my MNA (representative), he has never shown his bloody face in my area (he is being implicated in a drug scandal, btw), but was here on friday to hold up the road (he held a rally in the friggin' crossroads! which I don't blame him, since we don't actually have open spaces or parks...) To remind us he was a full blooded Muslim, and thus we should vote for him, er.. DOWN WITH THE INFIDELS!
So please, please, don't associate us with our damn politicians. We didn't elect them, we can't control them, we don't even know them.
As the joke goes, we have three type of people in Pakistan: Those who are too poor to move abroad, those who who are tying to move abroad, and those who have come back from abroad to rule the roost.
By the way, I suggest y'all hop by
/r/pakistan (and /r/islam for that matter) sometimes. Come to the dark side, we have nihari :P(Oh, and dear slashdot, please support character accents, or my french teacher will hang me from the university lamppost
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Re:I'm Pakistani and I'm proud of Dr. Abdus Salam
An apparently Pakistani news site for one (which is actually mentioned in the summary)
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12579/an-achievement-we-cant-call-our-own-higgs-boson-done-erum/
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Re:LOL
Most of your reply isn't really relevant because I've agreed with you that the US has serious problems and that some of them are getting worse. In that context, pointing to specific problems doesn't really do much. But it may be instructive to look at your examples:
Tarek Mehanna is an appalling example and not the only such case. Ward Churchill was guilty of severe plagiarism. It is true that people paid more attention to him and the plagiarism accusations because of his politically controversial statements, but that's a much weaker claim (and no one seriously disagrees with the plagiarism issue in his case). The issues related to recording the police are also a serious one and one that is really despicable. It varies a lot from state to state, and some states are actually improving (see for example, the ongoing legislation in Connecticut that will allow people to sue cops who try to interfere with recording http://stratford.patch.com/articles/bill-protects-citizens-recording-police-a8140340). In Pakistan, that wouldn't even be an issue because the police or military would just beat up the person recording and take the recording. Pihkal is a potential example of where someone was targeted for their speech, although actual violations of research and security policies were found in the lab. Your statement about the DMCA is just factually wrong- the DMCA prohibits circumvention of copy-protection mechanisms, it doesn't prohibit discussion of how to do so. The PROTECT_Act has some pretty stupid provisions, and trying to make virtual porn illegal is a violation of free speech by many notions. In Pakistan essentially all pornography is essentially illegal and they regularly block pornographic websites http://tribune.com.pk/story/293434/pta-approved-over-1000-porn-sites-blocked-in-pakistan/. Free speech zones are a really wretched idea and do implicitly violate actual free speech protections, although weak forms that only restrict time, place and manner without any content aspect are probably ok (and in fact courts in the last few years have struck down many attempts to restrict anything beyond that- see for example what happened with Texas Tech in 2004).
In the US one is subject to such searches if one is going on a plane
This amounts to millions of people subjected to searches, in a systematic and humiliating way.
You cut off part of my sentence which ended with "and one doesn't go through the backscatter screening", and that's quite relevant here. About 2 million people are subject monthly to pat-downs http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/may/17/janet-napolitano/homeland-security-chief-stresses-very-very-very-fe/. That estimate includes people who are getting pat-downs after they've already triggered some sort of warning, not just randomized pat-downs or op-out pat-downs. Again, the Pakistan situation is very different- the police and military can stop anyone on the streets and search them with no justification. I don't know if that results in more total searches in the US, but if it does, it is only because the US is a much larger country. As a percentage matter, the result would be pretty clear.
Any violation of this sort in Pakistan is actually orders of magnitude worse than the US
[citation needed]
Sure. http://www.hrw.org/asia/pakistan, http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/sca/154485.htm,
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Re:Good luck with that.
Correction, I was able to find the original news reports of the allegations against him being dropped and then reinstated.
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Re:What a tragic loss
Many causes of epilepsy are not genetic or even congenital. For example, physical trauma can cause disruption to the neural tissue that allows for disorganized electrical activity. While seizures acutely associated with trauma often don't result in a diagnosis of epilepsy (e.g. severe head injury--> patient has seizures on the way to hospital), individuals with repeated or severe damage may end up epileptic (i.e. the healed tissue isn't quite right and can induce seizures).
Similarly, toxins, liver failure, tumors, infections, and hypoglycemia can cause seizures too.
Migraines are thought to be related to seizures and, interestingly, can also be post-traumatic.
According to other sources, this girl died due to bleeding associated with an endotracheal tube, not the seizure itself.
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Re:The candle ... NO
she didn't die because she was burning twice as bright. she died from complications after they made an incision to insert a breathing tube into her trachea. that means she didn't have to die, and it was an incredible tragedy that she did. i am both sad and angry at this terrible news.
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Re:Anonymous isn't an activist group
...deliberately hide their... identities
...and you don't kidnap... people ... legitimate military targets...
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prosperity and education
There are more than enough resources left on earth to reach that goal but our great civilized cultures would rather see the starving masses die off than elevated to our own level if one is to believe people like you.
I agreed until I got here. Besides thinking the planet's ecosystem would not survive if everyone became as wasteful as the average American, many person could actually die. As has happened in the past, US hunger for coltan, used in cell phones, DVD players, video game systems, and computers has fueled fighting and massacres in the Congo.
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