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When Niggers promote one social program after the next to take care of some segment of society, are they doing it for that segment of society, or is it doing it because the Niggers seek power and position? If you've ever wondered about the answer to that question, then read on. The points I plan to make in this screed will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to educate, pressure, and change society as a whole - to love and regard the con

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it.

You can watch GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE on Youtube.

Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org , a popular "news for trolls" website

Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.
If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

This post brought to you by Penisbird , a proud member of the GNAA

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When Niggers promote one social program after the next to take care of some segment of society, are they doing it for that segment of society, or is it doing it because the Niggers seek power and position? If you've ever wondered about the answer to that question, then read on. The points I plan to make in this screed will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to educate, pressure, and change society as a whole - to love and regard the con

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it.

You can watch GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE on Youtube.

Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org , a popular "news for trolls" website

Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.
If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

This post brought to you by Penisbird , a proud member of the GNAA

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N___________ana__nn_an___an_aa_anaaannnanaa_______ ________I
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When Niggers promote one social program after the next to take care of some segment of society, are they doing it for that segment of society, or is it doing it because the Niggers seek power and position? If you've ever wondered about the answer to that question, then read on. The points I plan to make in this screed will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to educate, pressure, and change society as a whole - to love and regard the con

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it.

You can watch GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE on Youtube.

Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org , a popular "news for trolls" website

Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.
If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

This post brought to you by Penisbird , a proud member of the GNAA

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A____________________aanana__nannaa_nna_an________ ________Y
A_____________annna_nnnnnan_aan_aa__na__aa________ ________*
G____________nnaana_nnn__nn_aa__nn__na_anaann_MERI CA______N
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When Niggers promote one social program after the next to take care of some segment of society, are they doing it for that segment of society, or is it doing it because the Niggers seek power and position? If you've ever wondered about the answer to that question, then read on. The points I plan to make in this screed will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to educate, pressure, and change society as a whole - to love and regard the con

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it.

You can watch GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE on Youtube.

Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org , a popular "news for trolls" website

Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.
If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

This post brought to you by Penisbird , a proud member of the GNAA

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A____________________aanana__nannaa_nna_an________ ________Y
A_____________annna_nnnnnan_aan_aa__na__aa________ ________*
G____________nnaana_nnn__nn_aa__nn__na_anaann_MERI CA______N
N___________ana__nn_an___an_aa_anaaannnanaa_______ ________I
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When Niggers promote one social program after the next to take care of some segment of society, are they doing it for that segment of society, or is it doing it because the Niggers seek power and position? If you've ever wondered about the answer to that question, then read on. The points I plan to make in this screed will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to educate, pressure, and change society as a whole - to love and regard the con

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it.

You can watch GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE on Youtube.

Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org , a popular "news for trolls" website

Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.
If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

This post brought to you by Penisbird , a proud member of the GNAA

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When Niggers promote one social program after the next to take care of some segment of society, are they doing it for that segment of society, or is it doing it because the Niggers seek power and position? If you've ever wondered about the answer to that question, then read on. The points I plan to make in this screed will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to educate, pressure, and change society as a whole - to love and regard the concepts of FREEDOM, LIBERTY, FAITH and FAMILY. Nevertheless, Niggers believe strongly in entangling our peace and prosperity in the toils of the ambition, rivalship, interest, and caprice of moral

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it.

You can watch GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE on Youtube.

Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org , a popular "news for trolls" website

Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.
If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

This post brought to you by Penisbird , a proud member of the GNAA

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When Niggers promote one social program after the next to take care of some segment of society, are they doing it for that segment of society, or is it doing it because the Niggers seek power and position? If you've ever wondered about the answer to that question, then read on. The points I plan to make in this screed will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to educate, pressure, and change society as a whole - to love and regard the con

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it.

Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org , a popular "news for trolls" website

Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.
If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

This post brought to you by Penisbird , a proud member of the GNAA

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Nick states here that their code doesn't link against any symbols marked GPL only, and according to the lkml itself, this defines what is permitted for non-GPL code. Of course, like you say, this interpretation hasn't been tested in court, but it does seem help RTS's case.

Or the fact that practically every major software project is developed using C++?

The page you linked to doesn't really back up that claim. It says right at the top that this page lists only software written in C++. Sure, there is a lot of software being developed in C++, but there is also a lot of software being developed in C (e.g. Linux, most of GNU, most projects on Freshmeat), Java (a lot of commercial development, and a growing number of open source projects, too), and don't forget PHP and JavaScript, which are widely used for programming for the Web (e.g. by Google and Facebook).

Of the applications I use on a daily basis, only my web browser (over time, this has been Opera, Mozilla, Konqueror and Firefox) is written in C++. Most of the rest is written in C, with a handful of things written in Perl and a handful in Ruby. Then again, I don't use Windows. It seems to me that C++ and C# are much bigger there than in the Unix world.

Really?

Have you seen the flamage on LKML?

If that's peace I'll take war any day.

He wouldn't be able to access half the stuff he does if he was required to supply verifiable info.

That still doesn't work. See Tim May's LolitaWatch parody and my own (then anonymous) KiddieFind response in kind to the Clinton administration's attempts to legislate age traceability.

http://cu-digest.org/CUDS8/cud831

And note that all the stuff I wrote over 13 years ago regarding tracing through online databases, is more true today.

My hope for real name concept is that a parent would be able to reasonably track their kids activities and like the original reply stated, a good portion of the stupidity we find on line would stop because people would be afraid to be associated with the crap they type.

Not worth it to me. Once my sons are old enough to get online, I'm going to forbid them from revealing their age. I'm irritated by crap like http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1343929&cid=29156491 but I guess I'm no longer American enough to think there should be a law against anonymity.

Scott: "He called you a tin plated dictator with delusions of grandeur."
Kirk: "And so that's when you hit him, Mr. Scott?"
Scott: "No sir! It was only words, men can take a few insults."
Kirk: "Um, Mr. Scott, why did you hit him?"
Scott: "Sir, he called the Enterprise a garbage scow."

http://calypso.tux.org/pipermail/xemacs-beta/2007-August/011977.html

200Mhz ARM is more than enough; I've recently benchmarked EP9301 (167MHz) with Nbench, and integer performance rating was 1.8 of Pentium-90. Now remember Doom-I running on a 33 MHz i386-SX...

This exploit is different from XSS and is not new. It's called CSRF, Cross-Site Request Forgery. Web developers have known about it for several years. It's tricky to understand and potentially very dangerous, but there are remedies.

Because the problem and remedies are somewhat abstruse, casual or uninformed developers don't always take it into consideration. I'm actually a little surprised that the vast majority of commentators here seem to be unaware of it.

References:
http://getahead.org/blog/joe/2007/01/01/csrf_attac ks_or_how_to_avoid_exposing_your_gmail_contacts.ht ml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_fo rgery
http://www.tux.org/~peterw/csrf.txt (from 2001!)

We had a prototype of the device you are mentioning back in 2000, it was called the IBM Workpad z50 http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/documen t.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=BMOE-46XPTL. I have one. It runs WinCE 2.11. Using it's built-in compact flash adapter, and the upgrade to 48 Mb, it's possible to run NetBSD on it. http://www.tux.org/~bball/z50/ This could work.

I'm no genius around apt & dpkg but I can try:

1. apt-file search (or dpgk -s to search only installed packages)
2. apt-file list
3. dpkg -L
4. dpkg -l | grep (for installed packages) or apt-cache search (uninstalled ones too)
5. Not quite sure what you mean...
6. .deb's can be signed but that feature is not in significant use now, the repos are on the other hand signed...
http://boudicca.tux.org/mhonarc/ma-linux/2000/2000 -Aug/msg01270.html
Use is apt-get -K install
7. Not sure.
8. dpkg --unpack

I don't care about the security of wireless mice (mainly because I do not use them :).

I don't have a problem, I audit my code for XSS and filter anything intended for display in a browser. Some web frameworks pass all input through an XSS filter, I don't want that overhead. The truth is that browsers accept all kinds of shit for no good reason and I'm just not doing that level of filtering. I'd like to see browsers honour something like this:

<meta name="scripting" content="FORCE_DISABLE" />

This would disable all script on a per-page basis (including in IFRAMES and CSS!), it's very simple and kills XSS. CSRF is another problem and the only solution at this time is to have your users disable scripting.

INTEGER INDEX : 1.250
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 0.007
Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0

MEMORY INDEX : 0.297
INTEGER INDEX : 0.324
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 0.004
Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38

INTEGER INDEX : 1.250
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 0.007
Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0

MEMORY INDEX : 0.297
INTEGER INDEX : 0.324
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 0.004
Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38

The only Norton product I like is Ghost.

Give ntfsclone a try. Here's a good tutorial on using it.

It's easily scriptable, and is great in conjuction with ms-sys. If you spend a few minutes customizing something like RIP you can have the restore completely automated.

As a plus, everything's GPL'd. No licesence fees.

IMHO, Unattended + WPKG is still the best option, though...

Google returns about 24.8 billion results for the word "the". Keep in mind, that's four times the total number of people on the planet. It's 32 times the number of people online. So assuming all things were equal, that would mean that even if we wired up every person on the planet, they would each have four webpages, at least.

Sorry, but we're not there yet. You'd think it'd be time for some natural selection of the Internet. Who the fuck wants to read anything Jack Thompson has to say? Surely we could do without Heroic domain and typo squatters, couldn't we?

The problem is, even if no one clicks on typosquatter ads for quite awhile, these Heroic pages probably won't go away without a fight. They'll find other ways to make money, other places to hide, all without cancelling the ones that aren't working.

So what happens to all the old Linux distros? Oh, they might even still be available, but the unpopular ones won't be maintained. Remember tomsrtbt? That was my best recovery tool, before I had a cd burner, cheap CDs, and noticed how everyone had ubiquitous CD drives. Now I use RIP. Let's compare those -- tomsrtbt still works on the same computers it did before, but doesn't support the filesystems I need, and my main computer no longer has a floppy drive -- not to mention, it was last released in 2002. RIP probably takes less time to load, even though it pulls some 75 megs into RAM before you use it, versus tomsrtbt's 2 megs, because tomsrtbt is on a floppy (a slower floppy than usual), and RIP is on a CD. And let's not forget, RIP was last released four days ago.

So, why is tomsrtbt still online? It's still on DistroWatch, even.

The problem is, when a project is truly forgotten, you also forget to remove it, even if there's a natural replacement.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MoneyGuzz lerInc
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlu gins
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndNon freeOnSameMachine
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggre gation
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#LinkingWi thGPL
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLModule License
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLPlugin sInNF

I think this item is also insightful:

http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s1-19

which mentions:
http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/docs/ licensing.txt

TECHNICALLY, seems the GPL prohibits what Kororaa is doing with their Live CD. HOWEVER, seems Linus would side with them. HOWEVER HOWEVER, this would have to be legally debated, in other words, "defended". There's no explicit legal protection, and to get a judgment call would require money, lawyers, and being tangled in a lawsuit.

All of which would be silly and embarrassing both inside, and outside, of The Community.

I, personally, am very much in favor of "completely free (as in speech)" software. Mr. Stallman may be a "stickler", but I find him heroically inflexible. The world needs MORE Mr. Stallmans who actually and honestly stand tall, stand proud for what they believe in. And I'm not kissing ass here: I share his vision, but am far weaker in my convictions.

The pragmatist in me thinks that the Linux kernel's license should be changed to the LGPL. (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html) I know full well, however, that this would be a huge step backward for Freedom. (Anybody saying otherwise is either [1.a] simply not intelligent enough to understand, or [1.b] hasn't bothered to consider the implications, [2] has ulterior motives, and/or [3] has a personal vendetta against RMS due to personality conflict. "Consider the messenger...")

But PRACTICALLY, it would enable real headway on the driver/support front. I think ATI and nVidia (and every other closed-source **DRIVER** maker) is quite daft. But they have their "reasons", even if we neither know, nor understand them.

It's laudable to DREAM of a world where all software is Free, both as in Speech AND as in Beer. Bur for now, and for the foreseeable future, we all live and work in the Real World. Unless we're friendly and play nice with the other children, most proprietary companies, especially hardware creators, may very well choose to take their balls and go home. (To those who cry, "GOOD RIDDANCE!", I ask for you to tell us all of the open-source-hardware, with accompanying open-source drivers, to replace their wares with!) Free and Open (Source) Software makes its virtues self-evident. We need not be antagonistic.

The truth of the matter is that the hardware we want open-sourced drivers for the most is made by companies comfortably at the top of their game. They sell PLENTY of hardware to not need to worry/care about The Community one iota. They ha

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I hope they keep it after Apr 1st.

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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:30:40 -0800 (PST) Linus Torvalds wrote:

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Goes with the sandals and pony tails.

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Now, everybody hit "Refresh" a couple of times, and lets burn slashdot to the ground!
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You can run RIP( (R)ecovery (I)s (P)ossible ) rescue system from a USB key, and you could probably adapt it's instructions to something else
RIP site

It's a hosted solution; I only have access to the guest OS. The solution is advertised as Xen 3.0.1. I don't know the storage system. I didn't have performance issues; I just ran unixbench and saw that it took a LONG time, see the results here: unix_bench_xen_budgetdedicated.

The goal would be to get RedHat or SuSE to do all the software support, right? Supplying binary modules is way too much customization for that plan to succeed. Those would taint the kernel, and no other vendor is going to support that.

The SGI developers you spoke with probably were hinting that piss-poor admin practices shouldn't be considered.

No, they just flatly stated that XFS didn't need this functionality:
1) because XFS "never gets corrupted"
2) because SGIs have a PROM monitor

Basically they were hinting that XFS was a filesystem primarily for SGI hardware and Irix, not for Linux. Eg if SGIs dont need it then you dont need it either.

I assume they added -d after being told over and over that they were full of shit.

FWIW I have alternate boot partitions setup with RIP. Strangely enough the machines running xfs were the only ones I ever needed to use it on -- they were the only machines which ate themselves for breakfast.

There are two LUGs in my area.

The nearest, DCLUG, has had very small attendance at the meetings to which I went. One driver of this may have been that the group seemed completely ambivalent to new attendees to their meetings. Not one person said so much as "hi" at any of the meetings I made. That wouldn't be surprising if the meetings were turning out a hundred people; but less than 12 people, where everyone else there knows each other on a first-name basis? Every time I went, the topics discussed were development or admin related, and the talks (as well as topics discussed before presentations) were repeated interrupted by disputes and disagreements, some of which were clearly fueled by personal animosity. This was obviously a group of people that have known each other for a while, discussing topics of professional interest to them.

The next-nearest, NOVALUG, is very active and typically has a lot of attendees at their meetings. If not aggressively seeking and welcoming new members, they don't seem ambivalent to their presence, in contrast to DCLUG. People were definitely friendly. So I went to their meetings several times, and in all but one, the topic of discussion was (again) either development or professional admin related, with a skew towards admin stuff -- e.g. LDAP, LVM, etc. The one meeting I attended that had a skew towards user applications -- a "Tricks with the GIMP" kind of meeting -- interestingly seemed to get the biggest response of interest from the crowd present.

TFA is correct, at least here: LUGs here appear to mainly be groups where professional Linux admins discuss issues of interest to professional Linux admins. To the typical home user, beyond some assistance getting an install done or an obstinate device to work, they don't have much real educational value. Which is sad, but hardly surprising: the motivated people who keep a group going are going to want to discuss the things that interest them. Sorta like open source development: contributors work on the problems/issues of interest to them.

There are two LUGs in my area.

The nearest, DCLUG, has had very small attendance at the meetings to which I went. One driver of this may have been that the group seemed completely ambivalent to new attendees to their meetings. Not one person said so much as "hi" at any of the meetings I made. That wouldn't be surprising if the meetings were turning out a hundred people; but less than 12 people, where everyone else there knows each other on a first-name basis? Every time I went, the topics discussed were development or admin related, and the talks (as well as topics discussed before presentations) were repeated interrupted by disputes and disagreements, some of which were clearly fueled by personal animosity. This was obviously a group of people that have known each other for a while, discussing topics of professional interest to them.

The next-nearest, NOVALUG, is very active and typically has a lot of attendees at their meetings. If not aggressively seeking and welcoming new members, they don't seem ambivalent to their presence, in contrast to DCLUG. People were definitely friendly. So I went to their meetings several times, and in all but one, the topic of discussion was (again) either development or professional admin related, with a skew towards admin stuff -- e.g. LDAP, LVM, etc. The one meeting I attended that had a skew towards user applications -- a "Tricks with the GIMP" kind of meeting -- interestingly seemed to get the biggest response of interest from the crowd present.

TFA is correct, at least here: LUGs here appear to mainly be groups where professional Linux admins discuss issues of interest to professional Linux admins. To the typical home user, beyond some assistance getting an install done or an obstinate device to work, they don't have much real educational value. Which is sad, but hardly surprising: the motivated people who keep a group going are going to want to discuss the things that interest them. Sorta like open source development: contributors work on the problems/issues of interest to them.

Here i am. Check me out.

Well, read this first:

http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s15-3

For the "why" C versus C++.

Garbage collection is another can of worms. The short answer is because kernel code needs precise control over when allocations and deallocations occur.

http://dclug.tux.org/whyWNT95better.yeahright.html

I put together this web-scraping chart comparing price/performance of available x86-compatible CPU families on http://dclug.tux.org/cpu.png. The daily-run script collects web-advertised prices, and displays them as a series of lines showing price-vs.-nominal clockspeed data within the CPU sub-families.

Note the logarithmic scale of the Y (price in US$) axis---in linear scale it's easier to see the knee in the curve, where additional speed increments begin to cost disproportionately more, but the linear graph was much less readable.

The method used is a hacked-together heuristic, easily fooled by vendors' ever inventive approaches to reporting the parameters of the CPUs they are selling. Still, it's a good visual aid showing how various CPU families are positioned
with respect to each other.

My book teaches how to read documentation. It's the subject of the first chapter, actually. (Slashdot reviewed my book, long ago, FWIW.)

Since my book is not aimed directly at programmers, I didn't cover reading source code. I did cover basic instructions for debugging documentation when it's wrong, though.

Finally, while Linus maintains the development kernel, he is the one who makes the final call. In case there are any doubts on what his opinion is, here is what he said in 2004:

In fact, in Linux we did try C++ once already, back in 1992.

It sucks. Trust me - writing kernel code in C++ is a BLOODY STUPID IDEA.

The fact is, C++ compilers are not trustworthy.

And the rationale for this is that Solaris is backed by a real corporation like Sun Microsystems whereas Linux has no such backing?

I did a lot of research on this subject (as you may have noticed from my sig I started a company whose main product relies on this technology).

One thing to consider is that Sun's implementation is the youngest of both Linux and FreeBSD by quite a bit. See this slide from my DCLUG talk. Both Linux VServer and FreeBSD jails are rock solid and probably have received wider testing than Solaris Containers at this point.

I know, I know, benchmarks are not everything, but it would be interesting if they could have run nbench on their new shiny macs so we had some reference to compare it with.

"Linux is a kernel, not an operating system....."
Then what is the name of the OS?
Is it Redhat, Debian, Mandrake; I thought those were distributions?
Is it GNU? or maybe GNU/Linux? HURD?
GNOME? KDE? - Desktops?
It's not UNIX! Or is it? SCO was right?!! ahhh!$@$#

I KNOW! IT'S TUX!

YEAH! That's the ticket! It's TUX!

TUX Rocks!
TUX Rolls!
TUX Rules!

http://www.tux.org/

I use an external firewire enclosure and wipe to nuke drives that I ebay.

There's a self-booting CD diskzapper that looks like it ought to do the trick, though I have not used it.

Other posters mentioned Darik's Boot and Nuke as a floppy-boot solution.

The ultimate boot cd has a number of different disk wipers on it -- and a ton of other useful utilities on it. No self respecting geek should be without a copy.

The Recovery Is Possible bootable CD has a copy of wipe on it.

I wouldn't be suprised if Knoppix-STD had some erasing tool on it too, though I haven't checked.

Anyone know of a bootable image suitable for USB flash sticks?

google says

RIP, revovery is possible
This script allows you to install and boot the RIP system,
from a USB flash/pen drive, and possibly similar devices
(compact flash, memory stick, etc.). For it to work, the
USB drive probably can't be more than 1GB. Read the USB
flash drive section of the RIP README.

who am I to differ.

Either Gnome should use a Gnome-independent network audio standard, or it should just leave the mixing to the kernel. There is no need for Gnome to invent and use its own sound daemon.

Are you referring to esound when you say 'invent and use its own sound daemon'? That's exactly what the KDE crew did with artsd though.

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And unless you are running a version of Apache from 1984 (or a version for AIX on windows), it never required cygwin... NEVER! In which case it begs the question: what the hell kind of comparison are you trying to make by comparing a recent version of IIS to a version of Apache thats 10 years old?!!

If it's that simple then why doesn't everyone do it? Hmmm? Why aren't all programs optimized for that and enabled to run at a command line? You'd think everyone would want this right? Faster apps, better functionality.

Disaster Recovery - I've become fond of the (R)ecovery (I)s (P)ossible Linux rescue system
He even publishes a PXE image!

Troubleshooting - To quickly determine if a problem is hardware or software related, boot from a LiveCD

Highly customizable imaging and installation solutions

He's saying - after some analysis of mine - that Damn Small Linux can't read his partitions even though everything else can, so he uses the "RIP" (Recovery Is Possible) live CD to recover his system.

If you're looking for the actual text, I found it here:

http://www.tux.org/pub/tux/plg/

It'd sure be nice though...

No, it wouldn't.

In fact, in Linux we did try C++ once already, back in 1992.

It sucks. Trust me - writing kernel code in C++ is a BLOODY STUPID IDEA.

The fact is, C++ compilers are not trustworthy. They were even worse in 1992, but some fundamental facts haven't changed:

* the whole C++ exception handling thing is fundamentally broken. It's _especially_ broken for kernels.
* any compiler or language that likes to hide things like memory allocations behind your back just isn't a good choice for a kernel.
* you can write object-oriented code (useful for filesystems etc) in C, _without_ the crap that is C++.

In general, I'd say that anybody who designs his kernel modules for C++ is either

* (a) looking for problems
* (b) a C++ bigot that can't see what he is writing is really just C anyway
* (c) was given an assignment in CS class to do so.

Feel free to make up (d).