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Avoid the Firefox Frenzy
I am really tired of them putting out major versions at this speed. Since these are obviously minor versions, why can't they just call them minor versions and stop breaking people's add-ons? I considered Firefox my browser of choice for a long time even though I disliked the large memory footprint, for one reason- Add-ons. ADD-ONS. The same ADD-ONS which they are now breaking as fast as they can. I've now switched to a webkit browser with far fewer features but less suck- Midori. You might want to check it out if you can't see the end of this Firefox crap. http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html
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Re:Stop It!
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Midori
Midori is really lightweight and fast. It tends to outperform Chrome on older computers in my experience. Plus it runs in XFCE, so you're set for a lightweight environment.
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Re:Back to the Future
And how's Safari doing on Linux, does anybody care to tell me?
Could be better, but there are some interesting developments happening.
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Midori is a web browser
WebKit, GTK2, LGPL
http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html
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Re:I want a mechanism for pluck-outs...
I, on the other hand, think that Midori is a far better solution.
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Re:I want a mechanism for pluck-outs...
No. I'm quite happy with Midori.
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Re:I want a mechanism for pluck-outs...
Have you considered trying the new browser Midori
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Re:I want a mechanism for pluck-outs...
You could try Midori. http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html
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Re:Eyecandy in cost of usability
Whatever the source of the data that they used, the result is something that the majority of advanced excel users hate and about 80% dislike. For intermediate users, about 40% hate it and 60% dislike it. Basically, people who know how to use excel already can't stand this ribbon, so MS has just royally pissed off some of their best customers perhaps to the benefit of those who don't use it so often. I have seen more people migrate to linux on their laptops due to this single "feature" than anything else. The ribbon is an even more than the problems with vista, although it is more of a straw that broke the camel's back sort of thing.
I already dislike the new gui for firefox on the mac (why in the world does the back button need to be so big?), and use safari because of it, but on linux I use FF all the time. I guess I'm going to sit back and hope that midori is released soon, or use konqueror. -
Re:Obligatory XKCD
This rocks, though. My laptop stutters when I have Pidgin, Firefox and Thunderbird running at the same time; I hope that I will see a much smoother X performance with this next version.
Not to troll, but I had a similar experience that I fixed by uninstalling Firefox in favor of Midori, although it looks like I may be giving this Uzbl thing mentioned in another article a spin shortly. I'm not sure whether there's legitimacy to the Firefox devs' complaints about X, but I don't really care if there are browsers out there that don't bring my whole system to a halt to load a webpage.
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Nice to see, but...
I'm glad to hear that Firefox has finally improved its memory usage. Although my system has plenty of memory, I still find that the amount of memory FF3 requires causes a very annoying slowdown.
Of late, I've been using Midori as an alternative. With it's current git version and a recent WebKit build (r44951), I've found it to perform better than any other browser I've used (opera, konqueror, firefox). Although it does have a few minor kinks, it supports pretty much every site I've come across and works considerably better with mozilla plugins (namely, flash) than Konqueror and Opera.
Currently with an instance I've been using for the last few days, Midori is using 77 MBs of memory (for comparison, my other running browsers: opera- 120 MBs, Konqueror- 91 MBs, Firefox- 119 MBs). I didn't do any even moderately sophisticated benchmarks suck as those in the article, but that beats the average and final amounts of memory of FF3.5 as shown in the article. Obviously this is not Windows-friendly, but I'd say Midori deserves some more attention, considering that (for me, at least) it outperforms all the other major browsers.
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Re:Chromium (not Google Chrome) already works nice
For those okay with using a browser which is under heavy development, Midori is another great option.
It's my main browser on my eeepc for its RAM savings and it has been great. I've been using the PPA (note you also need the Webkit PPA in Ubuntu 9.04 and has been very stable. Many features are missing, however, it is maturing very quickly. Keep firefox around, though, as Midori has had issues with a few sites.
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Re:I hope they fix a couple of things
Did you try Midori?
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Re:How does firefox maintain competitive advantage
Nice. Webkit is based on KHTML, and there's no way to get a Linux build.
Sure there is, and that's just the browser that's been named in the comments on this article a dozen times. Also, this.
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Re:How does firefox maintain competitive advantage
I've tried pointing that out before, but you're probably wasting your breath. The tin-foil hat crowd here at slashdot seems to think that Apple is keeping all the juiciest enhancements for themselves. I know it's not true because I run Safari on my macs and have run some webkit browsers like midori on my linux machines, they're about as fast, certainly faster than firefox. I'd use midori as my full time browser, but it's not as full featured as firefox and is unstable (or was last version I downloaded, like 0.0.21 or so).
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Re:And so it begins
I know slashdot hivemind loves to hate apple and I myself am not a fan of this whole iphone lock-in crap (I won't buy one just because they make you sign a $70/mo. contract with AT&T & they won't let you officially tether it), but just to make this discussion a little more even-handed, I'll point out a couple of cases where Apple has "played nice" with open source.
Exhibit A: CUPS. Apple owns it. Nothing bad has happened. In fact it has worked so well that I've been using free gutenberg printer drivers for a laser printer that Apple stopped supporting in Leopard. Works fine.
Exhibit B: Webkit. Apple forked khtml and now there are several browsers for windows, linux browsers are based off it. Nothing bad has happened, and I think we can all agree that webkit is a darn fast browser engine.
Exhibit C: Darwin is open source. That's right, the OS X operating system is open source and released by Apple. Granted, the window manager (quartz) is not, nor are a lot of the apps (like the Finder), but you can always use X11, which btw, apple provides also.
So, it's a little disingenuous to portray Apple as completely proprietary: How many open source projects does Microsoft participate in? Yes I agree that Apple does try to lock you into their hardware, and that sucks, but they're not being completely evil. -
Re:Standards
It's also not a shipping browser, of course... yet.
Midori 0.1.2 ships with a copy of webkit that will render Acid3 100/100. Admittedly though, it is lacking in many other respects.
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Re:Acid3
I can't wait until Midori can remember open tabs and not crash constantly. I can't wait for a fast, lightweight, and cutting edge browser to be available for linux once again.
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Re:Once isn't enough - I want it every 5 minutes
It would be good if someone would write some Gtk2 wrappers for webkit.
They have: Midori Web Browser.
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Re:I just uncovered some hidden subtitles
If you're looking for a *nix, lightweight, WebKit based browser, may I suggest Midori?
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Midori?
...well, if you mean the web browser based on WebKit, then yes, long live Midori
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Re:Choice is a Good Thing
Try Midori (NetKit rendering engine) -- super fast and lean, but the latest builds render most web sites very well.
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Re:Konqueror/KDE 4.?
How about Midori? It is a lightweight web browser with a GTK+ 2.x interface and the WebKit rendering engine. Details at http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=midori
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Re:Most plugins aren't working yet...
Although if you have a mac, you also should try the latest Webkit build too. Its ridiculously fast.
It's "ridiculously" fast on GNU+Linux too. I suggest building midori or epiphany trunk with it.