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Re:huh?
There is this discussion from 2009..
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2009-December/010173.htmland this one from May 2010..
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2010-May/002569.htmlApart from that I can't find anything about a decision being made.
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Re:huh?
There is this discussion from 2009..
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2009-December/010173.htmland this one from May 2010..
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2010-May/002569.htmlApart from that I can't find anything about a decision being made.
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Re:Another iPad wannabe?
http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-for-mobile-internet-devices
TAIPEI, Taiwan, June 7, 2007 - Canonical Ltd., the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced more details on Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded Edition at Computex 2007 in Taipei.
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Re:Why so long?
There has been lots of suggestions but as you can see from my submission it gets downvoted pretty mercilessly on Ubuntu Brainstorm http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23527/
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Re:I knew Linux had problems!
I was wondering why a Live CD based version of Ubunutu was helping out Botnets.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity
i was wondering why the first post in this article went to the niggers
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I knew Linux had problems!
I was wondering why a Live CD based version of Ubunutu was helping out Botnets.
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Re:OS X 10.5.x upgrade on my G4 PowerBook killed i
Ubuntu on PPC is "community supported" as opposed to officially supported by Canonical. I'm not sure that it makes that much difference in practice; I suspect that many of the fixes that you'd care about are applied to upstream (the Linux kernel) and end up working on both platforms equally well.
You can get it here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloadsAlternately you can install plain-Jane Debian instead of Ubuntu, which is supported on PPC to the same extent as it is supported on any other platform. Arguably this is equal to Ubuntu's "community support," but if it helps to not feel like you're on a second-tier platform, that might be the route to go.
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Re:15" PowerBook G4 with 512 MB of RAM?
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Re:Protip #1 for 7 Starter
When I said "mission critical" I mean stuff that makes me money.
I'm right there with you. Mappoint and a certain business critical all-in-one invoicing, pricing, follow-up, you name it app precluded me from using Linux for a long time. Then I just got to thinking about it one day and said, screw this, I'm going to make this Linux thing happen one way or the other. Not saying it's necessarily that easy, because it isn't but it gets me to this other thing.
I happily, after getting all hardware and logistical issues sorted out, used Windows 2000 in a vm for a long time. And was actually happier since when I needed to move to new hardware or my machine died, I didn't have to reinstall anything, I just moved the vm over and kept right on going. Then, I got to thinking, this business application kind of sucks and I sure do wish it ran on Linux. Wine was a non-starter as it was a
.net monster that just wouldn't run on anything but just the right Visual C runtime, etc. So, to make a long story short, I got Learning Python and Programming Python by O'Reilly and 6 months later, not only did I rewrite the app from scratch but now it's much more specific to my business and it's so lean it runs on my cellphone. And I went from knowing nothing to "you can't tell me nothing" in 6 months flat with Python. There's even an awesome RAD tool for it with templates and Glade drag and drop GUI editing integration that makes it so you can turn out polished apps in hours once you learn your way around a bit.Of course, this doesn't help you today but it's a good start. And don't necessarily be turned off by Python being a "script" language as it has seamless C binding integration for any performance critical parts of your application. And it's all free except for your time. I don't have a lot of free time either but with Python, learning programming is a snap.
Take the sail design source from SailcutCAD, the hull design source from Free!Ship, combine the two along with a custom designed two phase (compressible/incompressible) CFD system solver (one for aerodynamics, one for hydrodynamics) built on OpenFOAM, but very streamlined so as to facilitate GPGPU (or more ideally OpenCL) acceleration... then give it away. I have big ideals but limited skills. For me alone? 5 years, no less.
That sounds really cool though I don't know much about sailboats but I'll tell you what. If you were to get enough of it written with say Python or whatever and throw up the prototype on sourceforge or launchpad, provided there is enough interest, you might be blown away as the application practically "writes itself". That's the power of this stuff. If people think it's cool and it does something for them, if they have something to work with, they'll pretty much do the rest.
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Free to add repositories
Yeah, but if you want to run anything on it, you have to get approved by the Free Store. The draconian linux overlords will reject anything that isn't 100% free, open, copyleft, and blindingly geeky.
You've described the policy of the "main" components of Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu repositories. (For example, see the descriptions of Ubuntu components.) But because the operating system is free, you are free to add additional repositories, such as non-free and contrib (Debian) or restricted and multiverse (Ubuntu). Blocking the user of a consumer product from adding repositories would be tivoization, which GPLv3 prohibits.
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it's not about technology or design
One can argue at length whether Linux is more secure by design or whether it uses more secure technology (it is certainly at least state of the art).
But for Google in particular, Linux is a much better choice than Windows: Google has its own internal Linux distribution, and they're shipping Android and ChromeOS. They review a lot of the code and contribute a lot more. Even if all things were equal otherwise, that alone makes Linux a much more secure choice for Google.
Another huge difference between Windows and Linux is installation: most Linux users just get all their software from their distribution, and the distribution manages, reviews, and fixes security issues centrally. That's much better than your typical Windows installation, which gets software from dozens of vendors and freeware sites, with no consistent updates and no consistent monitoring of security issues.
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Re:IBM is headed that way too
I did a preso on it back in 2007 at the Ubuntu Georgia Gutsy Gibbon InstallFest. Look for my ODP down at the bottom of: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GeorgiaUSTeam/Events/GutsyGibbonInstallFest and a pic from the actual event: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntugeorgia/1958309545/
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Not an unreasonable assumption to make
So how about everyone everywhere assume everything is either copyrighted or patented or trademarked and just submit to "them" who ever "them" may be.
Your Linux distribution has a trademarked logo. The software is licensed. It just might include some patented technologies.
H.264 support in Ubuntu's OEM distribution, for example.
Most of the software in Ubuntu is covered under the GNU General Public License. This *is* a license agreement. Unlike most license agreements, however, it does not restrict your usage of the software, but it does restrict the terms under which you can re-distribute it.
Likewise, while most of the software is covered by the GPL, *all* the software on the system is covered by some kind of license agreement be it MIT, X, Artistic, Apache, BSD, GPL, LGPL, etc, etc.
You will find the license agreements for the various pieces of software installed on your system in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Ubuntu license agreement
The "Creative Commons" license is - by default - a license protected by the law of copyright:CC's Unported licenses were created using standard terms from the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works and other international treaties related to copyright and intellectual property. FFAQ
MicroCenter.com stocks all of 13 items in Linux software, including, somewhat improbably, Slackware Linux.
MicroCenter catalogs about 30,000 items in all.
In hardware, 2 low-spec Ubuntu Linux [Desktop] PCs.
That the - IP protected to the max - product owns the consumer market space couldn't be made plainer.
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Re:EOL XP already...
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Re:EOL XP already...
You don't actually have to link it as https, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements works fine as well.
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Re:EOL XP already...
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
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Re:Software / OS hacks
Hmm, looks like one of the ClamAV developers was proposing something like this in 2006:
Could probably use blktrace to do the profiling by logging inode access patterns and identifing inodes that are frequently accessed together. Then those inodes could be packed / defragged next to each other on disk.
BTW, here's an interesting utility to plot inode accesses recorded by blktrace/blkparse :
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/bno_plot.1.htmlAlso this looks similar:
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usb-creator
We have usb-creator on Ubuntu. It's been part of the default install since 9.04, IIRC.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
Installing from USB is certainly the way to go.
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Try adjusting the swapPINESS
What swapfile? I have used Ubuntu on a few PCs with at least half a GB of RAM, and I rarely see swap usage climb above 40 MB. In an environment where reads are cheaper than writes, you'll want to use a low value for the swappiness, such as 10% instead of the default 60%.
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Re:No, du-uh.
The problem is Microsoft has consistently failed us all. This catastrophe must be squarely laid at their feet. Windows powers over 90 percent of the world's desktops therefore the solution must start there. On the desktop. MS has had decades to rectify this untenable state of affairs. They have so far proven themselves grossly incompetent. The only solution and the one I discovered is to quite simply switch to an alternative. Any alternative. Otherwise, Windows monoculture will be the downfall of us all.
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Re:Wow...
That's funny, because I thought 7 was great.
That's strange, unless you're from the future, the 7 the GP was referring to isn't even out yet.
It just shuts up and sits in the background making all of the bits of your computer work, without you having to even notice it.
Yeah, wake me up when any version of Windows even remotely resembles that in any way. Or you could, you know, just embrace reality and realize that between the annoying UAC prompts the absurdly circular menu in a menu configuration settings, constant popups from various programs wanting to be updated, incessant whining from various "security" software, nagware wanting you to upgrade to whatever the next expensive version is, it's really just the same old annoying in your face crap that MS has been putting out for 15 years. I understand a fanboy like you can't fathom the possibility that there could be any other way than the MS way but, trust me, Windows is far from the fairy tale you are making it out to be. Fortunately for me, I found a better way. Now my computer just works. No more viruses, spyware, trojan-ware, adobe upgrade this, java upgrade that, "are you really sure?", wga thinks I'm a thief, etc. anymore. Finally, I can compute in peace and actually Get Work Done.
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Re:outrageous!
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
bookmark this. now you never have to go through the agony of googling a bunch of stupid animal names again. think of what you can do with all that free time.
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Re:Things Mature
the issues of running firefox on a SSD(i.e. netbook) have bee well addressed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne/110L#Speed%20up%20Firefox
you just have to get your hands a little dirty
what specific design choices in chrome makes it faster than Firefox, i.e. what caching/ database ect
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Which Ubuntu?
The article says they used Ubuntu, but doesn't say whether they're using regular desktop Ubuntu or the Netbook remix. They admit that they haven't optimized the kernel: it's entirely possible that battery life could be improved by recompiling the kernel with different flags or some equally esoteric maneuver. Of course normal users shouldn't have to optimize their kernels, but installing the netbook edition shouldn't be that esoteric. The article doesn't say if they did that or not, but if they had, I suspect that they would say so.
I haven't installed plain Ubuntu in a while, so I don't know if it offers to optimize for netbooks at install time. It would be nice if it did that.
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Re:Ubuntu has never supported Firefox
They seem to think it's ok to wait months, and then only update with the entire OS.
That's their policy for all software. Try the backports repository.
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Cybersecurity not a problem here
We use portable Ubuntu running off a read-only device.
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Re:Free is a good price
Yes, you should try the new OS release: http://www.ubuntu.com/
Free to use, easy to install, no viruses, software store like iTunes but for your desktop!
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Ubuntu is a quisling
What ever happened to "Don't feed the patent trolls?"
Ubuntu LIES
Ubuntu core applications are all free and open source. We want you to use free and open source software, improve it and pass it on.
Is an h264-enabled web browser a core application? An h264-enabled video player? Etc., etc.
So much for their "philosophy"
Our Philosophy
Our work is driven by a philosophy on software freedom that aims to spread and bring the benefits of software to all parts of the world. At the core of the Ubuntu Philosophy are these core philosophical ideals:
- Every computer user should have the freedom to download, run, copy, distribute, study, share, change and improve their software for any purpose, without paying licensing fees.
- Every computer user should be able to use their software in the language of their choice.
- Every computer user should be given every opportunity to use software, even if they work under a disability.
Our philosophy is reflected in the software we produce and included in our distribution. As a result, the licensing terms of the software we distribute are measured against our philosophy, using the Ubuntu License Policy.
we are working to ensure that every single piece of software you need is available under a license that gives you those freedoms.
Currently, we make a specific exception for some "drivers" which are only available in binary form, without which many computers will not complete the Ubuntu installation. We place these in a restricted section of your system which makes them easy to remove if you do not need them.
More about components>
Free softwareFor Ubuntu, the 'free' in 'free software' is used primarily in reference to freedom, and not to price - although we are committed to not charging for Ubuntu. The most important thing about Ubuntu is that it confers rights of software freedom on the people who install and use it. It is these freedoms that enable the Ubuntu community to grow, continue to share its collective experience and expertise to improve Ubuntu and make it suitable for use in new countries and new industries.
Quoting the Free Software Foundation's 'What is Free Software', the freedoms at the core of free software are defined as:
- The freedom to run the programme, for any purpose.
- The freedom to study how the programme works and adapt it to your needs.
- The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others.
- The freedom to improve the programme and release your improvements to the public, so that everyone benefits.
Open source
Open source is a term coined in 1998 to remove the ambiguity in the English word 'free'. The Open Source Initiative described open source software in the Open Source Definition. Open source continues to enjoy growing success and wide recognition.
Ubuntu is happy to call itself open source.
I'm sure Ubuntu is happy to call itself "open source". I'm going to call it "Quisling".
Oh, and it's STILL fugly. Can't you get someone who isn't chromatically challenged to at least make this pig look a bit less like a sows' ear?
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Ubuntu is a quisling
What ever happened to "Don't feed the patent trolls?"
Ubuntu LIES
Ubuntu core applications are all free and open source. We want you to use free and open source software, improve it and pass it on.
Is an h264-enabled web browser a core application? An h264-enabled video player? Etc., etc.
So much for their "philosophy"
Our Philosophy
Our work is driven by a philosophy on software freedom that aims to spread and bring the benefits of software to all parts of the world. At the core of the Ubuntu Philosophy are these core philosophical ideals:
- Every computer user should have the freedom to download, run, copy, distribute, study, share, change and improve their software for any purpose, without paying licensing fees.
- Every computer user should be able to use their software in the language of their choice.
- Every computer user should be given every opportunity to use software, even if they work under a disability.
Our philosophy is reflected in the software we produce and included in our distribution. As a result, the licensing terms of the software we distribute are measured against our philosophy, using the Ubuntu License Policy.
we are working to ensure that every single piece of software you need is available under a license that gives you those freedoms.
Currently, we make a specific exception for some "drivers" which are only available in binary form, without which many computers will not complete the Ubuntu installation. We place these in a restricted section of your system which makes them easy to remove if you do not need them.
More about components>
Free softwareFor Ubuntu, the 'free' in 'free software' is used primarily in reference to freedom, and not to price - although we are committed to not charging for Ubuntu. The most important thing about Ubuntu is that it confers rights of software freedom on the people who install and use it. It is these freedoms that enable the Ubuntu community to grow, continue to share its collective experience and expertise to improve Ubuntu and make it suitable for use in new countries and new industries.
Quoting the Free Software Foundation's 'What is Free Software', the freedoms at the core of free software are defined as:
- The freedom to run the programme, for any purpose.
- The freedom to study how the programme works and adapt it to your needs.
- The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others.
- The freedom to improve the programme and release your improvements to the public, so that everyone benefits.
Open source
Open source is a term coined in 1998 to remove the ambiguity in the English word 'free'. The Open Source Initiative described open source software in the Open Source Definition. Open source continues to enjoy growing success and wide recognition.
Ubuntu is happy to call itself open source.
I'm sure Ubuntu is happy to call itself "open source". I'm going to call it "Quisling".
Oh, and it's STILL fugly. Can't you get someone who isn't chromatically challenged to at least make this pig look a bit less like a sows' ear?
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Re:Oh. Boo Freaking Hoo
Fixes:
Credit:
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/Debian
I really don't know much about the history here, but this all seems pretty lame. Ubuntu doesn't hide it's Debian roots at all (it doesn't take much poking around to run into a Debian logo,
.deb, etc). Also, Debian itself is based on a bunch of other works, it's how the community works.For me, Ubuntu has been the up-to-date but still useable Debian; if I hadn't gotten used to the Debian world via Ubuntu, I would still use CentOS/RedHat on servers.
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Re:Oh. Boo Freaking Hoo
Fixes:
Credit:
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/Debian
I really don't know much about the history here, but this all seems pretty lame. Ubuntu doesn't hide it's Debian roots at all (it doesn't take much poking around to run into a Debian logo,
.deb, etc). Also, Debian itself is based on a bunch of other works, it's how the community works.For me, Ubuntu has been the up-to-date but still useable Debian; if I hadn't gotten used to the Debian world via Ubuntu, I would still use CentOS/RedHat on servers.
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Re:It's interesting that it's some place specific.
yeah, that's more or less my mark of whether people are getting it (or buying in to it, if you wish to say it that way). If you imagine your "cloud" to be in one specific place...it's not a cloud. The difference between a clouds are dispersed, and cover large areas. They're not merely ponds that happen to be up in the air.
One of my growing list of complaints about Ubuntu is their "cloud" concept, where it's nothing more than a front end to the VMs running in your company datacenter, changing nothing from the last 15 years or so. That's not a cloud - if I can walk over and touch the hardware involved, it's not a cloud. If a single failure can take out every application I have, they're not on a cloud. That's just VM host configuration. And Ubuntu's silly idea of calling remote desktops hosted on EC2 "cloud computing" is ridiculous as well; cloud computing is a progression of distributed computing ala Beowulf - the "hardware abstraction" (ala VM hosting) aspect of it is entirely inconsequential. I don't really care if Amazon gives me dedicated servers for my instances, or VMs running on large hosts - it doesn't impact how I use them. If I'm pointing at an application running on one particular machine, then no matter where that machine is hosted...it's not in the "cloud."
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Re:Ubuntu 6 month cycle
Just replace the name of the release in apt/sources.list do an
aptitude update; aptitude upgradeThis is amazingly bad advice and we are dealing with the fallout of such on the Ubuntu support forum/lists all the fucking time. Yes, it is possible to upgrade with aptitude, but (1) don't do it if you need to ask how, and (2) "aptitude upgrade" is WRONG.
"upgrade" is aptitude's deprecated command for package upgrades in the current distro release. Its up-to-date name for the same command is safe-upgrade. It is safe because it is guaranteed never to remove packages. This is nice in general, but if you upgrade from one distribution release to the next, it is very likely to get you into dependencies that cannot be resolved. "aptitude full-upgrade" (deprecated: dist-upgrade) is the command you want; it will also remove packages if that is needed to resolve dependencies.
Most users should simply follow http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
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Alpha 1 is early June, not end
It's important to say to the impatient among us that the first alpha release is not due earlier than the end of June,
Actually, the release schedule page has the first alpha release on June 3. The second alpha is end of June (actually July 1st.)
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Re:Thanks Apple
On the upside (?), Ubuntu seems to have a new music store, which they conveniently launched yesterday.
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Official Release!
Now officially released http://ubuntu.com/
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Re:What will they do for release 24?
"We might skip a few letters, and we'll have to wrap eventually. " - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
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Fail in summary
The mobile version of Firefox, codenamed Fennec, has until now been restricted to Maemo Linux handsets
O RLY? Perhaps submitters should check to see if they know WTF they are talking about before they add flowery language to their story submissions. Wouldn't hurt if editors checked their veracity (AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA)
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Re:What bug?
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Re:Good for them.
More specifically they are not charging for Ubuntu they are charging for Canonicals services http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services. More logically if Mark Shuttleworth really does want to push Canonical forward, than a cooperative franchise set up will likely be the best route to established localised support services upon a global basis. Then using the distributed abilities of all those franchises whether local retail or local commercial services to support the various distributions of Ubuntu produced by Canonical.
The franchise chain could also be used as a retail chain to freely distribute the operating system at a local level and of course to sell non operating system products, including proprietary software linux games, hardware consumables, souvenirs, distributed MMOG (part of cloud computing), training and accreditation services and of course localised neighbourhood services and support (even for M$ Windoze machines).
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Re:Ubuntu One
That's true, but with the advent of Netbooks and other cheap hardware a number of companies are selling Linux based computers. Walmart sells them on their Web site. I haven't seen many (any?) with Ubuntu though.
Dell has a few options at least. There's some more listed here but no other big names. Trouble is that knowledgeable Linux users will usually check out if a laptop works with Linux and go with some better deal on the hardware rather than the preinstalls. It's a tough crowd to sell to...
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Re:RHEL
If you want to setup a cloud deployment on, say, Amazon's EC2, it's quite easy, and then once you're up and running you can then decide if you want to buy support for that deployment.
If instead you visit RedHat's cloud page, you'll see no similar guide to getting started. As far as I can tell, this is because you need to have a RHEL license to even get access to their EC2 AMI files. As close as you can get for free is the RightScale AMI for CentOS.
A lot of technical decision are made through the path of least resistance for getting started. Right now, if EC2 is your cloud platform, and you want to deploy a simple setup that you can add support to later, Ubuntu is where you'll end up at. A someone who leans toward RedHat for servers, I've been frustrated lately that I can't do free proof of concept deployments of RHEL on EC2, and then add support to them only once the result has been signed off as working. And for always unpaid setups, people don't really trust the RightScale AMI images the way they do the official Ubuntu ones either.