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Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?

Here's the list from the announcement:

    Europe:

        http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
        http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
        http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
        http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
        http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
        http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
        http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
        http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)

    Australia:

        http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04

    Africa:

        http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)

    Rest of the world:

        http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)

You buy Linux....I just get my mate Mark mail it to me for free: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

That's a start, now head over to http://www.ubuntu.com/ for Ubuntu 6.10.

In your face, Bosh.

I was going by the schedule here.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule

Have you tried the Ubuntu LiveCD? Do you have problems with X using that, or just when you install? You can get the latest Feisty Fawn beta here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/ it's already quite stable (I'm using it to type this message). If the LiveCD works, it should install fine. Try it without proprietary drivers first, they can sometimes cause problems.

I know what the ????? step is:

"Grub error 21"
Repeat steps 1 to 3 twenty times with various hacks found on the ubuntu forums before finally giving up.

See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support for more information.

I'll install Ubuntu when it works on my 80gb PATA drive. If XP and Vista install perfectly to a JMicron controller, why can't Linux?

choongiri writes:

"Slashdot's A. Coward has some advice for those considering an upgrade to Vista. He huffs the work Microsoft has done on the installation program, and thinks it still presents problems for those who wish to upgrade. He recommends the free Windows Vista Avoidance Adviser. Then, be sure to pick the best edition for your use."

Actually, the OSS world does have use cases. For example, see Ubuntu's use cases:

• Face Browser Login
• Update Manager
• Windows installer for Linux

Actually, the OSS world does have use cases. For example, see Ubuntu's use cases:

• Face Browser Login
• Update Manager
• Windows installer for Linux

Actually, the OSS world does have use cases. For example, see Ubuntu's use cases:

• Face Browser Login
• Update Manager
• Windows installer for Linux

By modern I was thinking of RAM > 192 MB, (people who bought bargain pcs five and more years ago would face that problem) and a processor around 2 GHz or more. If the poster above took several minutes to boot Ubuntu, it seems pretty likely that he was running into the problem that he is running an old pc.

Don't believe me?

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/deskto pedition
"Ubuntu is available for PC, 64-Bit and Mac architectures. CDs require at least 256 MB of RAM. Install requires at least 2 GB of disk space."

http://www.slackware.com/install/sysreq.php
"Slackware Linux doesn't require an extremely powerful system to run (though having one is quite nice :). It will run on systems as far back as the 486. Below is a list of minimum system requirements needed to install and run Slackware.

        * 486 processor
        * 16MB RAM (32MB suggested)
        * 100-500 megabytes of hard disk space for a minimal and around 3.5GB for full install
        * 3.5" floppy drive

Additional hardware may be needed if you want to run the X Window System at a usable speed or if you want network capabilities."

Finding an .exe file on the manufacturer's website is not innately easier than looking at http://help.ubuntu.com/ and following some simple instruction. When installing dual boot systems for people, the Windows side always takes me more effort because I have to scrabble around for drivers and apps rather than having everything easily available in the Ubuntu package repository.

I also recommend FLAC, that is what I am ripping all of my CDs to. When you can get a 500gig HDD for under $140,it is worth every cent and more to do what you are doing. I have an Ubuntu system set up for network storage so I can play my FLACs with my two Cowon iAudio (Highly Recommended) portable media players(support FLAC natively), streamed to my stereo through the Xbox media center( XBMC , streamed to my computer, my daughters computer, or transcoded for other players. In my opinion FLAC is 100% the way to go.

Edgy hasn't been beta for a while. At least not according to ubuntu.com. This does not look like a beta to me. That said, I don't really care if it's beta or not. It's not that bugs are being ignored, it's that they're being dismissed for being non-issues.

I've yet to deal with an Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Xubuntu install that didn't require some serious fiddling. I'm disappointed, but not too much, that I couldn't boot a 6.10 release CD on my machine. That I could not apt-get and download a fixed version (considering that the fix is about as trivial as they come) makes me think twice about my choice of distributions.

About marketing; while marketing OSS is a process in itself, some projects do have marketing materials available, just have to know where to find them. Then have to take some time to pick out what works and what doesn't. Examples: http://marketing.openoffice.org/ , http://www.ubuntu.com/products/casestudies , http://www.redhat.com/solutions/intelligence/

Finally, don't see why this is on the front page. This is a question to the public, not news. Take it to a freakin forum.

See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-30-1; something like 7 vulnerabilities were found in the kernel's smbfs driver which could be used for remote DoS and potentially for remote root, at least on some configurations (the Linux community decided to fix the bugs instead of waiting for exploit code to appear). There may have been other remote root exploits since then -- I haven't been keeping track.

It's not the best of interfaces, but Ubuntu has some level of specification of hardware support on their wiki.

Is this something Dell over looked?

Canonical offer commercial support for Ubuntu including Phone and Email support.

I recall being mod-ded down several years ago for saying the same thing. Eh-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh, now I use Kubuntu Feisty Fawn. I offer a prediction, "that when Linux Project Authors add documentation,(with examples of usage), AND installation via something like 'apt-get', that Microsoft 'chair' holders will begin macro gravity testing."

"Slowly, one by one, the Penguins steal my sanity." - Unknown

Hmm. Perhaps you haven't heard of the LTS release. Dapper is supported on the desktop for 3 years, 5 on the server. Packages are stable, only getting security and bug fixes. Similar to RHEL. I'm sure this is what they're planning on using. If not, they need to fire the implementers.

The thing is that Ubuntu is built around the latest and greatest bleeding edge bits and pieces, it's quite common for stable packages to be replaced with beta versions and for things to break horribly without warning. Maybe Ubuntu could start releasing a toned down distribution for use in environments where stability and predictable behaviour is more important.

You have no clue how the Ubuntu releases work, do you? What you proposing exists since 06/2006, it is called Ubuntu 6.06 LTS

I haven't tried Wubi but I'm guessing its similar to the Debain Installer that I tried. I never had any trouble with that. You've got to love the Ubuntu wiki and its use cases!

While it's not my favorite distro, there are plenty of support options available for Ubuntu. Of course I'm pretty sure you knew that and just felt like tossing out a troll. The alternative is you're just daft.

I think the official instructions would be a better comparison. They can be found here.

Where can I get a well supported full featured distro that doesn't remove 90% of the features from programs like XMMS, Mplayer and ffmpeg? (MP3 support, WMA support, DVD playback, RealAudio support etc etc)

If I understand correctly you don't touch the .conf to get ubuntu running, but it offers no tools to change whatever configuration it comes up with? So therefore unless you add a monitor or whatever you wouldn't need to modify the .conf?

Sorry, the part about autoconfig in my commment was not so much related to Ubuntu. I don't know how this will work out since AFAICT autoconfig is very new functionality in Xorg 7.2 and it is not yet used in Ubuntu (although 7.04 Feisty will include Xorg 7.2). I think the idea is that in the long run there is no xorg.conf at all, you just plug in your hardware and it works.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/XorgA utoconfiguration

It is not faster, and in addition, it is much less space-efficient.

Yes, and here's link to Ubuntu which also is offtopic.

"RHEL is about the server. Fedora, Ubuntu and other are about the desktop."
Not true. Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is great for the server.

RHEL and ubuntu cater to two completely different kinds of computing.

Ubuntu cares more about pretty widgets for new linux users than "Enterprise" features.

By "Enterprise" I mean things like...

Kerberos/LDAP integration: If you don't know, this is what will enable SSO capabilities. (aka, what windows did with AD over 7 years ago.) Ubuntu has had a bug in nss_ldap that showed up in Edgy that causes the system to delay booting by a few minutes because it "cannot contact the LDAP server".(bug Bug 51315). Dapper was supposed to be the first Enterprise edition. It worked fine in that release. It has been broken in Edgy, and will remain broken in Feisty as well because its part of "Universe" and not in the main branch. Something like this should not be broken for over a year solid spanning two releases.

Consistency and uniformity: UID and GID used for system accounts (proxy, cups, bin, sys, etc) should not change between releases breezy -> dapper). Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot.

Commercial software validation/ certification: Oracle support on Ubuntu == Lies.

Documentation: http://www.redhat.com/docs/ vs http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation : You decide.
A WIKI??

Support: Redhat will fly somebody out at 3am vs canonicals... uhm.... *reads their webpage*... *scratches head*....

RHEL runs machines that are important.
Ubuntu runs yours.

-s

/ never posts on slashdot... // Posting as AC because I'm too busy to recover my login.

That article is wrong. It's just written by some blogger. Here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo

"By default, the root account is locked in Ubuntu. This means you cannot login as root or use su."

The password is not random; it simply does not exist. The account is locked, which means NO root login is possible ANYWHERE, not through a console, not through su, not through X, not through SSH, nowhere. sudo works by asking a daemon (already running as root, spawned by init) to run the process for it; the daemon does the authentication itself, which is totally separate from normal account methods.

Install KDE and you get Konqueror, arguably the most powerful and efficient file manager .... even mac users envy it ... and it's easy to install on Ubuntu.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE/ and here:

http://www.debianadmin.com/install-kde-desktop-in- ubuntu.html

the short of it is:

apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-g uide/i386/index.html

I don't have a 386 to test it on, but something tells me that, even if I did, you would just accuse me of making it up or something.

Conspiracy? There's nothing consipiratorial going on here. Microsoft is exploiting laziness. They don't even make it a secret. They print on the box what you need to run it. They know that most people don't have sufficient hardware, and they know that enough people are lazy enough to just go buy another computer rather than demand the software be written better. Microsoft's not trying to make any money for Intel or AMD, they're just trying to save a buck by writing non-scalable software. They're not passing that savings on to us, either.

Am I wasting my time trying to get my point across, or do you just get my point and choose to not engage me in a real debate? Can you just let me know if your mind is already made up, or if you're even aiming to change my perspective with the introduction of something other than one liners?

Sorry, I think I've misunderstood what you were saying completely. I don't know if you're even using feisty or Ubuntu at all then... right, well, no, the wireless support won't work unless you have an Internet connection to install the firmware with. I had this problem myself - I solved it by downloading this package and putting it onto a USB stick and then installing it. Once I'd done that (and rebooted) I was able to connect to wireless networks. I've only tested this with feisty, and NetworkManager (which comes with feisty) makes this stuff a lot easier, so I don't know what the experience is like with previous versions. Also, NetworkManager/bcm43xx/WPA don't work particularly well together, but it's fine for WEP and unencrypted networks.

Upstart is similar in concept to Launchd, but was written from scratch by Ubuntu. It is event-driven, not runlevel driven, which gives it some very interesting abilities that I'm sure will be exploited in creative ways in the future. I would be surprised if we don't see it included in Suse and Fedora in the near future, and a package is already in Debian experimental.

For more on Upstart, check out its website: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
The original Ubuntu feature request that lead to it is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit (Discussions at the bottom as to why Launchd was not used.)