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Stories and comments across the archive that link to uni-muenster.de.
Comments · 29
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Re:Math Illiteracy leads to science illiteracy
Sorry, but you simply don't know what you are talking about. As a mathematician myself, I can tell you that you are seriously deluded. To help you learn more about what math is, I suggest you read what one of the greatest mathematicians of the 20th century, the late V.I. Arnold, had to say:
Mathematics is a part of physics. Physics is an experimental science, a part of natural science. Mathematics is the part of physics where experiments are cheap.
Read his full comments here. Arnold, of course, knew more mathematics and more about mathematics than you could ever hope to. Mathematics is a part of science; it is not a masturbatory playground for dilettantes such as yourself.
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Re:Make
Or a DIY Scanning Tunneling Microscope http://sxm4.uni-muenster.de/introduction-en.html
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Re:Scholars, Make up your mind already
I'm intrigured by the idea that learning "print" style writing can be a "lengthy" process, once you have already spent a few years writing. Isn't is quite natural - just draw the same letters, but separately instead of joined up and tidy them up a bit?
If you'd known the crap I was taught as a kid you'd understand that it was a bit more complicated than that. The stuff I had to write looked somewhat like this: http://spzwww.uni-muenster.de/~griesha/eps/wrt/pics/schrift/lehrer-ir.1966d.gif but even more curly. I found this example on Wikipedia but it doesn't do the crap justice if it's just single letters. http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:La-ges.jpg&filetimestamp=20060501153550 I don't have much of my primary school writing around but you're getting the idea. Note how this first sample is from a teacher from 1966 and this guy obviously took his time to write this sentence. Mine looked far worse under pressure. The Wiki page even states that usually this stuff was taught AFTER learning print
... I never even learned print. We were taught that "Latin Cursive" only.I learned cursive as a child and used it throughout university.
Then you might have been lucky and adopted a style that was compatible with most other writing so teachers were able to recognize it.
Print was occasionally required for filling in forms. I don't remember ever feeling challenged by that, even though it was only used for forms.
Well, large blocktype in capital letters to cram into form boxes is something else than free flowing print style letters required for producing a sophisticated result in drafts.
Maybe you felt you had to copy the awkward (not designed for writing) glyph shapes that computers and typewriters use, instead of simply using the cursive shapes you already learned minus the redundant flowy bits as long as it was legible?
I never tried to imitate computer or type font. I just took what I saw in other writing and used that as a guideline. It comes pretty close to how computer fonts look is far more "edgy" and straight strokes than the curvy squiggling I did before. I'm not saying I had a hard time, it was just inconvenient to try to lose a habit that was so deeply entrenched in my brain. I'm not a calligrapher but it works for me and I'm fine with that.
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Re:Why are we celebrating these books?
However, Bourbaki was very good at getting the mathematics itself clearly defined.
It's just a pity they were never able to clearly get it across.
Bourbaki, and the Bourbaki style, makes great reference material. But that's all it makes. There is more to mathematics, and pictures and example are part of that "more". A big part. Bourbaki did not just forget these topics. They actively excluded them. Jean Dieudonne stood up in the middle of a conference and shouted "Down with Euclid! Death to Triangles!". It was an irrational zealotry, but mathematicians are people too, and they followed the trend setters.
You cannot learn mathematics from a reference book, or from books and people that try to be like those reference books. This applies to graduate students and professionals studying mathematics just as much as it applies to preschoolers learning about shapes. Here's a link to another view of mathematics, and how it should be taught by V.I. Arnold, a famous Russian mathematician.
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Re:Why are we celebrating these books?
Many people blame Bourbaki for the horrendous "new math" which infected mathematics teaching in the 1960's. And there is some validity to that accusation. A scathing indictment of Bourbaki was given by the renowned mathematician V.I. Arnold, author of famous books on classical mechanics and differential equations. Arnold tears apart the dry, lifeless and phony "rigor" and "purity" of Bourbaki and others who divorce mathematics from reality, which he describes as "sectarianism and isolationism which destroy the image of mathematics as a useful human activity in the eyes of all sensible people." Here's a link to his full comments:
http://pauli.uni-muenster.de/~munsteg/arnold.htmlAs a mathematician, I have to agree with the critics of Bourbaki. It put mathematics on the wrong path, in my opinion, and much of that influence continues on today. Mathematicians would do well to heed Arnold's advice on the direction mathematics needs to take. "Pure mathematicians" and other people who still think that Bourbaki was "doing mathematics the right way" are simply misguided.
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Re:FoldingAtHomeET is more interesting to you until a very near relatives comes up with a serious illness like Cancer, AIDS
...Some poster mentioned it earlier: If you priorities is to spend youd budget on the best way to save lives then research into Cancer or AIDS isn't the best place to put it, even within the medical research field. There are other diseases that kill far more people but get far less research dollars than Cancer/AIDS already! The money goes into areas where the research companies think there will be the best return on the investment!
That said, it is a fallacy to suggest that SETI might also result in a cure for all known ills by finding the aliens who already have the cures! Again, from another poster, the best thing SETI could do is offer a wake-up call to the religiously infatuated, perhaps providing some coffee flavoured smelling salts at the same time.
FWIW, I used to run SETI, before and after BOINC. I also ran a number of other BOINC clients, including:-
SETI,
Folding,
Climate Prediction,
Einstein searching for gravitational waves,
LHC helping with the Large Hadron Collider,
Predictor trying to predict protein structure from protein sequences,
QMC,
Rosetta,
Stardust,
yada yada yada
but removed it a year or so back as it did seem to get in the way rather too often.BOINC was just too clunky. Why did you have to register individually with each BOINC project, be given yet another HUGE number, have to search for the interesting projects yourself. BOINC should have taken care of the registration once, then offered a drop-down of active projects. Selecting something interesting would do all the install stuff for you and allow you to control the shares from the Client - currently (or at least when I left it) if you wanted to alter the share of one particular project got you had to go to each Project's website rather than just set it within the client. Just clunky!
Anyway, I moved on, but I'd have to say I'm sort of interested again and may fire up SETI again for a while to see how things have progressed since I last offered some cycles!
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Re:Math *is* hard
The best math always is. It's hard, gives you a headache, you lose sleep trying to figure it out. But once you do you are astonished at how elegant it is and how it all fits together so beautifully.
Wrong. So wrong.
Yes mathematics gives you a headache. Frequently you don't get it. Frequently you must spend weeks on a topic before getting it. Often it may elude you for years. Then you finally get it, and usually hard work and effort has absolutely nothing to do with that.
The sad fact is, people think mathematics is hard because most mathematicians are lousy at explaining it. It's not explained properly and as a result people struggle with it until they finally come across a resource or idea or epiphany that allows them to realize the in retrospect blindingly obvious idea that lay behind the whole topic. What to know why it seems so "elegant" and obvious in retrospect. It's because it is obvious, as long as you were taught it correctly.
Best example I can think of offhand is determinants? Remember those? I'll bet there's a lot of people here who went through the whole spiel with them over and over and all the while didn't have a clue what they were all about. Let me tell you what they are, or quote a better man than I on the subject. "The determinant of a matrix is an (oriented) volume of the parallelepiped whose edges are its columns." You see, that's what a determinant actually is, but most student are never taught that most essential fact. Once you get that, the rest is all just formulae around it. But most are just taught the formulae. Most of mathematics is taught like this. Form without essence. It's a tradgedy. The greater tragedy is people think all this incompetence is a result of mathematics being "hard". It's just hard to teach, not to learn.
Here's a link to a much longer rant which shows just how big a problem the teaching of mathematics has become in some quarters. -
A nice Massively Multiplayer RTS Game
Have a look... http://pvs.uni-muenster.de/pvs/projects/rokkatan/
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Erm,
Yes - Pyxis was a Sony GPS reciever - I have one sitting right here.
Here's a picture of one http://ivvgeo.uni-muenster.de/Vorlesung/GPS_Script /Praktikum/Pyxis.jpg
It's also something else that was in the movie.
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Re:a few starting ideas
"more emphasis on (mathematics) basics"
See this wonderful essay by the famous mathematician V.I. Arnold
He explains how mathematicians' fetish for abstract formalism has negatively impacted the teaching of mathematics (specifically in France).
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Re:Break the law, face the charges.
In Germany, implications are already there (link to German language synopsis) since long.
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Re:My, how times have changed
...and for those of you who are still wondering what TFA is about, note that just about every big system and OS vendor has its own version of DCE. It has been the foundation for a lot of securely networed applications.
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This site optimized for arguing with customersThey could just as easily expand their market 10-20% by supporting web standards.
By making it hard for customers to use your site, you're in effect telling them to take their business elsewhere. See an old discussion on the theme of you never win an arument with a customer.
Or as Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the WWW, puts it,
" Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network."
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Re:is this real?
For the German speakers. Here is a historical article about the German uran project. I heard the speaker at the Niels Bohr institute. He was quite convincing http://www.uni-muenster.de/PeaCon/wuf/wf-95/95214
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Re:So by six degrees of seperation....
Yeah, especially given that Bush and bin Laden are connected by much fewer than six degrees...
Consider how nicely the bin Laden family was treated in the days immediately following 9/11, when the government allowed a plane to fly around and pick them up to take them out of the country after only the most cursory FBI screening. (No one else was allowed to fly at the time except the military.) I mean, normally the relatives of a suspect in a murder will be questioned to see if they can lead you to the suspect or provide any evidence that he either did or didn't do the crime. But Bushes and the bin Ladens go way back, and they got off the hook. Way to be "strong on terrorism", Bush.
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Rough spelling and grammar?
Unless I'm mistaken, the spelling and grammar is correct. The chronology here places this writing in Late Middle English, which had very different spelling and grammar rules than modern English.
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MS sponsored University ResearchFOOS in Government? Not if MS research can prevent it.
Latest implementation of the Halloween Memo can be found here
If you have been exposed to Economics 101 you will have a field day reading this pseudo Research unfortunately published by a real university.
You will be glad to know that FOOS will fail as there is "No market at the core" and it does not provide an optimal allocation of resources.
He kind of forgot the benefit to the user of lower cost but who is counting.
Read more over at Groklaw by the way
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The linked page has frames.
Here's the menu on its own without frames.
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Re:I for one welcome our new cryptographic overlorYou say this in a day and age when people are building cruise missiles for under $5000, and building homemade scanning tunneling electron microscopes.
Nothing a good set of radio receivers and a few moderately powerful computers cannot fix.
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Red Hat Beta
There is a new Red Hat beta coming out. Most likely on Monday morning. The mirrors already have it. As usual it is locked on all of them, or at least it should be.
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Germans not well on the way
..., and we knew that their scientists were well on the way there.
Actually, they weren't. There was research, of course, but they never came very far on the long, complicated way of building a working bomb. First the Nazis were convinced to win the war easily by conventional means (in 1939 and 40 it looked pretty good for them). In 1942, there was a request by the military on a nuclear bomb. The scientists agreed that it could be done, but would need several more years. See this page on the Uran-Projekt if you can understand German. When the German scientists, already interned after Germany's defeat in May '45, learned about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they refused to believe it. -
I'm a dumbass!If I had more brains and fewer ethical concerns, I'd be like Bill Gates.
If by "mainstream" he means dominant and common, Uncle Sam gave us the answer, illegal monopoly. Yep, if free software came installed on PCs right out of the box and enjoyed it's obvious price advantage, it would be dominant by now. There's nothing more difficult about maintaining a Linux box than an M$ infected computer that the end of anti-competitive practices would not prevent. New M$ junk won't even run on some of my computers. As someone else pointed out Apple has taken Open software and sold and supported it without any technical problems. We can also point to the fact that there are just as many, if not more happy Linux users as there are happy Mac users.
It's happening anyway. Despite the best efforts of the "entertainment" industry to push DRM, people are turning from M$. They are willing to put up with the possible inability to listen to new music formats (WMA) and watch digital movies for the sake of ownership of their computers and their information. That is mainstream! Joe sixpacks is not going to go for the $1,000 stereo that breaks every two years that is WinXP. If that's all Joe is interested in, he may abandon computers alltogether for set top boxes. The rest of the computer using population will continue to move towards free software for it's superior tool sets. It's so simple even a dumbass like me can see it.
What kind of graduate student would be asking questions like this and holding forth such eleitist attitutdes? Let's look at the page. Hint one, name of course, " New Product Development." Product? Oh Lord! He's a Mechanical Engineer like me. Here's some help, Prabhu,
- Front page does not comply with W3C or IEEE specs, so I can't read the buttons on your page. Try Bluefish.
- The differences between Open and Free software are a source of contention, but you can find a good opinion here.
- Don't Slashdot your page!
- When you need software for your Mechanical Engineering Project, hire someone with a BS in CS, or find a reputable consultant. If they mention M$, keep looking.
Good luck with your paper.
- Front page does not comply with W3C or IEEE specs, so I can't read the buttons on your page. Try Bluefish.
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Gah!
That group's almost as scary at these guys. But nowhere near as scaray as The bin Partridge family!
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Re:mirrorsOops...these are the real ones
Austria
ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrake-iso/i586
/ (Vienna)
Czech Republic
ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-iso/i586/
ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Dist/Mandrake/
m andrake-iso/i586/ (Prague)
Estonia
ftp://ftp.aso.ee/pub/os/Linux/distributions/mandr
a ke-iso/i586/
France
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-iso/i586/ (Lyon)
ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i586/ (Nancy)
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mand
r ake-iso/i586/ (Paris)ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake-iso/i586/ (Toulouse)
Germany
ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandr
a ke-iso/i586/ (Esslingen)ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distribu
t ions/mandrake-iso/i586/ (Muenster)ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/Mandrake-iso/
i 586/ (bayreuth)
Hungary
ftp://ftp.linuxforum.hu/mirror/Mandrake-iso/i586/
Netherlands
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Ma
n drake-iso/i586/ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/
M andrake-iso/i586/
Russia
ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/mandrake-iso/i586/ (Chernogolovka)
Sweden
ftp://ftp.chello.se/pub/Linux/Mandrake-iso/i586/
ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/os/mandrake-iso/i586/ (Dalarma)
Taiwan
ftp://linux.cdpa.nsysu.edu.tw/pub/Mandrake/mandra
k e-iso/i586/
United Kingdom
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/u
n ix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586/ (Canterbury)
United States
ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/Mandrake/mand
r ake-iso/i586/ (NY)ftp://ftp.orst.edu/pub/mandrake-iso/i586/ (Oregon)
ftp://ftp.software.umn.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/Man
d rake-iso/i586/ (Minnesota)ftp://helios.dii.utk.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/Mandr
a ke-iso/i586/ (Tennessee)ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-iso/i586/ (Illinois)
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandr
a ke-iso/i586/ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i
5 86/ (Virgina)ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/mandrake/Mandr
a ke-iso/i586/ (Hawaii)
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mirrors
Australia
ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Brisbane)
Austria
ftp://ftp.univie.ac.at/systems/linux/Mandrake/8.2
/ i586/ (Vienna)ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586
/ (Vienna)
Belgium
ftp://ftp.belnet.be/packages/mandrake/8.2/i586/
Costa Rica
ftp://ftp.ucr.ac.cr/pub/Unix/linux/mandrake/Mandr
a ke/8.2/i586/
Czech Republic
ftp://ftp.cesnet.cz/OS/Linux/Mandrake/mandrake/8.
2 /i586/ (Brno)ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Brno)
ftp://klobouk.fsv.cvut.cz/pub/linux-mandrake/Mand
r ake/8.2/i586/ (Prague)ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake/8.2/i586/
ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Dist/Mandrake/
m andrake/8.2/i586/ (Prague)http://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586
/ (Brno)
Denmark
ftp://ftp.dkuug.dk/pub/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Koebenhavn)
ftp://ftp.sunsite.dk/mirrors/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Aalborg)
Estonia
ftp://ftp.aso.ee/pub/os/Linux/distributions/mandr
a ke/8.2/i586/
Finland
ftp://ftp.song.fi/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Espoo)
France
ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Nancy)
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distrib
u tions/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Paris)ftp://ftp.info.univ-angers.fr/pub/linux/distribut
i ons/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Angers)ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mandrak
e /8.2/i586/ (Paris)ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mand
r ake/8.2/i586/ (Paris)ftp://ftp.u-strasbg.fr/pub/linux/distributions/ma
n drake/8.2/i586/ (Strasbourg)ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Toulouse)
Germany
ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandr
a ke/8.2/i586/ (Esslingen)ftp://ftp.de.uu.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/
ftp://ftp.fh-giessen.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i5
8 6/ (Giessen)ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandra
k e/dist/8.2/i586/ (Wolfenbuettel)ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Goettingen)
ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distribu
t ions/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Muenster)ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/Mandrake
/ Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Munchen)ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i
5 86/ (Chemnitz)ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/
i 586/ (Clausthal)ftp://ftp.uasw.edu/pub/os/linux/mandrake/dist/8.2
/ i586/ (Wolfenbuettel)ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/
i 586/ (bayreuth)ftp://ftp.uni-kassel.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i5
8 6/ (Kassel)ftp://ftp.uni-mannheim.de/systems/linux/mandrake/
8 .2/i586/ (Mannheim)ftp://ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586
/ (Dresden)ftp://ramses.wh2.tu-dresden.de/pub/mirrors/mandra
k e/8.2/i586/ (Dresden)ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux
/ mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Aachen)
Greece
ftp://ftp.duth.gr/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Thrace)
ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Athens)
Hong Kong
ftp://ftp.wisr.eie.polyu.edu.hk/linux/mandrake/8.
2 /i586/
Hungary
ftp://ftp.linuxforum.hu/mirror/Mandrake/8.2/i586/
Ireland
ftp://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/
Italy
ftp://bo.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/Mandrake/8.2/i586
/ (Bologna)ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandra
k e/8.2/i586/
Latvia
ftp://ftp.latnet.lv/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/
Netherlands
ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Ma
n drake/8.2/i586/ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/
M andrake/8.2/i586/ftp://ftp.wau.nl/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Wageningen)
Poland
ftp://ftp.ps.pl/mirrors/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Szczecin)
ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586
/ (Gdansk)
Portugal
ftp://ftp.dei.uc.pt/pub/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/8
. 2/i586/ (Coimbra)ftp://tux.cprm.net/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/
Russia
ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Chernogolovka)
Singapore
ftp://ftp.singnet.com.sg/opensource/linux/Mandrak
e /8.2/i586/
Slovakia
ftp://spirit.profinet.sk/mirrors/Mandrake/8.2/i58
6 / (Bratislava)
Spain
ftp://ftp.cesga.es/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Galicia)
ftp://ftp.cica.es/pub/Linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Sevilla)
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mand
r ake/8.2/i586/
Sweden
ftp://ftp.chello.se/pub/Linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/
ftp://ftp.chl.chalmers.se/pub/Linux/distributions
/ Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Gothenburg)ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/os/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Dalarma)
Switzerland
ftp://ftp.pcds.ch/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Neuhausen)
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/mandrake/8.2
/ i586/ (Zurich)
Taiwan
ftp://linux.cdpa.nsysu.edu.tw/pub/Mandrake/mandra
k e/8.2/i586/ftp://linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw/distributions/mandra
k e/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrake/8.2/i586/
Turkey
ftp://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/pub/linux/dagitimlar/Mand
r ake/8.2/i586/ (Ankara)
United Kingdom
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/u
n ix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Canterbury)
United States
ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distribut
i ons/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Georgia)ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/mandrake/Mandr
a ke/8.2/i586/ (Florida)ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/Mandrake/mand
r ake/8.2/i586/ (NY)ftp://ftp.nmt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (New Mexico)
ftp://ftp.orst.edu/pub/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Oregon)
ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/distributions/mandrake/8.2/
i 586/ (Virginia)ftp://ftp.umr.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/8.2
/ i586/ (Missouri)ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/mandrake/8.2/i58
6 / (Indiana)ftp://linux-cs.tccw.wku.edu/pub/linux/distributio
n s/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (WKU-Linux, Western Kentucky University)ftp://mirror.aca.oakland.edu/linux/mandrake/8.2/i
5 86/ (Michigan)ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/Mandra
k e/8.2/i586/ (Wisconsin)ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Illinois)
ftp://mirrors.ptd.net/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (Pensylvania)
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandr
a ke/8.2/i586/ftp://uml-pub.ists.dartmouth.edu/mirrors/ftp.mand
r akesoft.com/pub/Mandrake/mandrake/8.2/i586/ (New Hampshire)ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/mandrake/Mandr
a ke/8.2/i586/ (Hawaii)http://mandrake.dsi.internet2.edu/Mandrake/8.2/i5
8 6/ (For Internet2 academic institutions only)
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Interesting GPL-ish licensingI find their GPL-ish licensing (but only for "private or educational" purposes) to be pretty cool.
From their "Licences and Legal Stuff" page:
We grant everybody the right to construct the microscope using the here-published design for private or educational purposes. On these web pages all necessary diagrams, drawings, material descriptions and software-source-codes are published for free access. While granting the right to build the microscope we make it mandatory that new developments, improvements or other applications of our design are also made openly available for private or educational purposes.
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How interesting
Interesting CAD drawings... Particularly the professor's name, in the lower right...
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Probably not Linus...This is just not something Linus Torvalds would be likely to be tremendously interested in; the original point of Linux was to hack around with 80386 addressing modes, and make a "better Minix."
There is a big difference between "hacking up a better Minix" and creating a Multics clone; in the latter case, there was considerable integration between:
- The kernel, providing file, computation, and security services.
Note that the memory model was substantially different from that of Unix. With Unix, you open files and filter data in and out, and allocate memory dynamically on demand, Multics unified this, so that rather than "opening a file," you would instead "initiate a segment," so that all files would essentially be memory mapped into the address spaces of all participating processes.
Furthermore, whilst the evils of segmentation as seen with the 64k pages on the original "IBM PC" give people the impression that segmentation is evil, Multics made pervasive use of it to keep chunks of memory distinct.
Note that some of the later Pentium CPUs included segmentation instructions likely based on Multics that could have been used to help do memory management "the Multics way;" the lack of such on RISC (Alpha, IA-64, PPC, MIPS,
...) architectures and the perpetual impending doom of IA-32 means that having memory management in Multics style on "modern" hardware may need to wait another 15 years... - Programming Language.
Multics was coded in PL/1, and the fairly byzantine complexity of PL/1 provides both the merit that some operations may be much better optimized than C, and the demerit of being pretty complex.
I just don't think "C hackers" would build Multics.
- Unix and Linux represent "minimalist" systems in a number of senses, and it seems that many prominent Linux kernel hackers prefer "more minimal" text editors like Vi to the sorts of complex tools like TECO and Emacs.
The only way I'd see it being likely would be if some of the retired Multics creators that made some Silly-Valley and/or DotCom millions decided to sponsor a several-year-long project involving a staff of on the order of a dozen pretty elite developers to provide some sort of "legacy" to retrieve Multics from the dead.
- The kernel, providing file, computation, and security services.
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Re:Can't we plan ahead a bit and...
Hello *McFly*,
IPV6 are 128-bit addresses, meaning 3.40 e 37 addresses!
Reference: http://www.join.uni-muens ter.de/JOIN/ipv6/rfc/rfc2373.txt
Just to put that into perspective, just HOW big that is, lets "do the math" to find out the number of ip addresses per square meter.
The earth's surface are is 510.10 million square killometers, (or 196,950,000 square miles .)
510.10 million square kilometers => 510,100,000,000,000 square meters.
http://www.unitwiz.com/area.htm
Then using algebra with a few log rules.
x = #ipAddresses / surfaceArea
x = 2^128 / 510,100,000,000,000 sqr_m
log2( x ) = log2(2^128 / 510,100,000,000,000 )
log2( x ) = log2(2^128) - log2( 510,100,000,000,000 )
log2( x ) = 128 - 48.85777
log2(x) = 79.14222
x = 2^79.14222
You will see that there are
667089525428226746644529 ip addresses per square meter !!
(You can double check this by taking 667089525428226746644529 * 510,100,000,000,000 to get the orignal 3.40e37 )
Or for our imperial friends ;-)
log2(x) = 128 - log2(196,950,000)
log2(x) = 128 - 27.55325
log2(x) = 100
x = 2^100
There are 1727760177308649217889690822197 ip addresses per square mile !
Now obviously some IP address are reserved, but somehow I don't think we'll run out of IPV6 addresses anytime soon. ;-)
Cheers