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1. CMS Watch is probably the best single source. It's fairly new, apparently having begun in August, 2001. It lead me to the next two best Web sources on CMS's, which are the next two items in this list &nbsp.&nbsp.&nbsp.
2. CamWorld by Cameron Barrett, who has listed, in tabular format, several "leading" CMS's, including one or two open-source ones.
3. CMSwatch also lead me to Phil Suh's CMS site, which posts discussions among CMS users and those looking to implement a CMS. The only thing that I don't like about these discussions is that so many of the participants have never heard the terms "open source" or "free software." Too many of them think that they have to buy an expensive Vignette (for example) solution.
4. A recent poll at LinnuxLookup was informative. The January, 2002, poll indicated that PostNuke was far-and-away the most popular among those polled, as it bested both PHP Nuke and SlashCode. PostNuke won as to each of the eleven categories/questions, including "Best overall CMS." Zope was not among the choices available on the poll, however, and other good, open source alternatives were also missing, including most of the ones that are to be discussed at the open-source CMS developers' conference.
5. Drupal has a good discussion of CMS's, to wit, open-source versus commercial.
6. How to choose a CMS.
7. Of the commercial CMS's, Frontier is one of the most interesting and most promising. It's also reasonably priced, at least as compared to some of the other commercial CMS's.

You don't know of enough tech sites to claim that "almost every tech site" banded together on something. No one does.

Google treats new sites as having low utlity, but that doesn't mean that Google is out of luck on new content. Google knows that certain web sites, especially web logs (like Slashdot itself) and news sites are updated very frequently, and re-indexes them more often. Thus, if you're interested in current events, Google will tend to return results on current events from "reputable" sites. (I've been unable to find a reliable reference for this; you can check out this one from DaveNet.)

This doesn't help you out if you're trying to get your new business noticed, which is something site managers care about desperately. It also doesn't help you find the new business that appeared two weeks ago that might be able to help with your problem. Sadly, it's generally the same business owners who care about that case, too, since in general somebody has already beaten you to the punch with their web site and the customer gets the problem solved, without you.

No, it's not perfect, but it solves the problems of web searchers very, very often. It may be less good for web site owners, but compared to the searchers they are in the minority.

However it's pretty asymmetric. It can only deal with client requests, an issue pretty much covered the other day. [slashdot.org]. The server can't delay a response or let the client know when it's finished a lengthy request.

The way I deal with this is having the "client" also include an XML-RPC server so it can register with the "server" and receive callbacks that way. Of course, the server has to be coded to do this too, but its relatively straightforward. There is also asynchronous XML-RPC although that is mostly a polling routine that's pre-wrapped for you.

There's also the issue of tunnelling through port 80. Some people like it (hey I can get through the firewall by using port 80!) and some people hate it (if only I could stop all that goddam non http traffic on port 80, it's killing my load balancing)

Absolutely no reason you have to use port 80. You can specify any port for the XML-RPC server to listen on.

Exactly how could Netscape ever possibly stand a chance when there was no way in hell for them to swing a deal to get their browser distributed with the OS?

One word: innovate. How about this radical idea... make a better browser!! Perhaps if Netscape had been first to market with an XML parser integrated into the rendering engine. Perhaps if Navigator offered multiple browser windows like Opera. Perhaps if it had PNG support. Or Print Preview. Faster rendering. Less bloat. Or if Netscape had provided a better development environment so more programmers would have cretaed Netscape plugins rather than ActiveX controls or Java applets. Maybe if it had worked that deal with Eudora you mention. Nobody knows what 'it' is (well, maybe Opera does) but clearly Netscape didn't offer anything that IE users wanted badly enough to pay for.

Maybe if Netscape stopped whining it could get back in the game. Browsers will continually evolve, users will always be seeking more features. What if they built a browser with built-in word processing/web publishing/blogging tools like Radio Userland?

Do yourself a favor. Don't be a Netscape apologist. Netscape had one great idea, after that it allowed itself to become completely irrelevant. You may not like Microsoft, but in this case, the enemy of your enemy is not your friend. It's AOLTW.

There has been much discussion of Free Software in the vein of cottage industry or startups versus large/mature organizations (see D. Winer for example), however, the most interesting examples of broadly deployed Open Source and Free Software are large companies leveraging that against other big co's. (see Apple, IBM, AOL).

What's going to get early Aldus PageMaker code out of Adobe? Money. What's going to keep the developers who'll turn it into a simple Linux page layout app? Money. Who can do that? It'll take some larger organization who isn't interested in the distraction of remarketing software and has much to gain by the broad deployment of that software.

4. What made Steve Jobs speak out so loudly about this? He's been very quiet on bashing MS, even after MS got rid of their non-voting investment some time back.

• Microsoft's 1997 patent dispute settlement regarding a 5 year committment to keep MS-Office for the Macintosh is about up. Losing MS-Office right now would be very harmful.
• The current settlement would likely displace Apple's position in the education market and lock schools into the all-or-nothing Microsoft license/upgrade cycle.

If you site is dying it is time to re-evaluate your initial assumptions about the visitor market segment that your site is suppose to appeal to.

• Perhaps the vistor segment is too narrow to support normal visitor turn-over. You have to have at least some aggregation of interest to justify creating a site. "Market segment of one" really doesn't work for any tangible products, and are only marginally workable for virtual products.

• Perhaps your site didn't provide what that segment really needed. For example, though I love RSS, the actual value of everyone republishing Slashdot, Freshmeat, et al. is dubious at best if there is no original value/content added somewhere along the line. Too many sites don't really add anything extra to justify using anything but the original sites or personally controllable "segment of one" tools like Radio Userland.

• Perhaps what the visitor segment needed from your site was economically elastic, or in other words, when other (economic) resource priorities come up, your site ended up last on the pareto order list and gets cut out of visitor's time. This is one of many dot-com's big business model flaws - selection of elastic markets/products.

None of the crap on the web is worth paying for. At the price of an ISP connection it's already a rip-off. When you loose anonymity or privacy in order to post, it can be an even worse deal. No one should ever pay even a 10,000th of a cent to read this post. If you think so, stop now, because I promise the rest of it isn't worth it.

Still here, eh ? Think of it like a party or a coffee house or a group of people waiting for the bus. You are willing to listen to a random person come up to and start talking. But when they come up to you with their hand out, it's "Sorry buddy, no spare change here." Communication with other humans instantly becomes degraded in status as soon as money is involved. The exceptions are narrow, such as hard core technical information or economic reports.

If slashdot or some other sites start implementing micropayments, there are two things that can happen:

1) if the system excludes those who are not signed up, then the sub-class of people who do post their will be the extremely annoying, self-important, whiny liberal types. Think of the The Well back in the day, or even to certain extent Kuro5hin today. Expect common posts to be along the lines of "Oh my god, I always listen to NPR, but on the way to work today I accidently hit the wrong button and ended up listening to [insert AM talk show host here], and I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE . . . ." Imagine a discussion board completely populated by people like Dave Winer. Expect threads to be along the lines of "all those other non-micropayment sites are filled with hateful, violent, ignorant, gun-toting arab-hating SUV-driving working class people. How can we enlightened micropayers spread the word ?"

2) If the system doesn't exclude people who don't sign up, and the fact that it has a such a system doesn't attract so many people like yourself that it falls into case 1 anyway, then it will be like slashdot except that a segment of the population has agreed to be ripped off. Eventually the ripped off segment will become disillusioned, because inspite of the fact that your paying nothing changes, and will either stop paying or go to site like case 1.

The very promise and hope of the internet is the free communication of all humans with each other. That's what makes it the internet, replete with everything from Dave Winer to goatse.cx and fecaljapan.jpg. If you are worried that there isn't a taxation system in place to pay you a few hundred dollars a month for bandwidth on your site, consider the possibility that humanity as a whole doesn't value your contributions enough to pay for them. There exist plenty of intellegent human beings who are willing to pay in time and even money just to publish and post, because they want people to read what they say and possibly change the world because of it.

After all, you read my post -- you just paid with two minutes of your life and you probably don't even agree with anything I say. Why should you have to pay anything, even a fraction of a cent, more ? I'm satisfied with the two minutes of your attention, and if this post goes in some small way to prevent idiots from investing time and money into a micropayment system doomed to fail as surely as etoys, SCO, and pets.com, then I've done my part to make the economy a bit more efficient.

Stop wanking off about money. It's not about money. That's why the dot-bombs bombed. It's about humans communicating.

Dave Winer (co-creator of SOAP among other things, so he has dealt and continues to deal with MS on the interoperability front) has a few things to say about what Microsoft stands to gain, what it stood to lose from the settlement but didn't, and a (plausible, and hopefully incorrect) prediction of what the Government stands to gain from Microsoft controlling the greater Internet. (think Hailstorm/XP plus Carnivore)

I think Dave would be a good person to provide suitably knowledgable 'public comment' for this bill. Read his blog; he's a decent guy to boot :)

With the deal off, who knows what will happen. But I found Dave Winre's thoughts startling. He put all the pieces in place and basically says 'Its possible' Possible that Microsoft really can control the Internet at will and nobody can stop them. Doesn't mean they will or even that it is likely - but the potential is looming more and more each day.

Some examples:

• "Stallman's philosophy is not open source, it's not the spirit of sharing, it's not generous. It has other purposes, it's designed to create a wall between commercial development and free development." (9/7/2000)
• "Talking with Nicholas Petreley a few days ago I said that the problems that open source addresses have already been dealt with." (9/9/2000)
• "It's possible to be an open source developer with high integrity, I'm sure of that, I know people who do that. But it's not inevitable that all open source developers and middlemen have high integrity." (8/8/2000)

And that's just a few of the more recent posts to his log. Don't get me wrong, Dave is a very thoughtful, articulate guy who's no Microsoft parrot -- he and his company, UserLand Software, were one of the authors of the SOAP specification that is proving so critical for future interoperability. He's just got a keen intelligence and is fond of applying it, which means he'll often come up with a different angle on things than you might expect. Go search his site and I bet you'll find, if not the answer you seek, at least some interesting questions.

-- Jason Lefkowitz

Userland Frontier has been doing that since at least 1995 (the Aretha release).

I'm kind of surprised nobody has mentioned this one yet. my.userland.com has a large collection of RDF feeds. It's the only directory I use when looking for RDF feeds.

... Which will make all the difference to sites in development like ours: http://makunu.com. I hope some amalgamation of Dave Winer's well though out solution xmlrpc makes it into the final product.

The number of sites that are charter members (e-bay, apache, amex, cisco etc.) makes it even better. I just hope they don't mandate the use of Java in this project.

If I were in their shoes I would fight even if it meant that I would die to free the country.

Spoken like a true Anonymous Coward.

First of all: the revolutionaries of the US weren't starving until the winter of Valley Forge. Most of the people you've read about in your history books - Thomas Paine, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson - were pretty damn well off, and kicked off their revolution primarily because they couldn't compete economically with the state-backed monopolies from England (Like the East India Company).

But hey, let's say for the sake of argument that the Founding Fathers weren't any more advantaged than the average shmuck living in Afghanistan. Tell you what - why don't you fly out there with a bunch of friends and kick the Taliban's asses for us? Shouldn't be too hard. The fact that tens of thousands of people are fleeing the country as we speak, on top of the estimated two million who had already fled the country for Pakistan shouldn't deter you in any way: I'm sure they're all just big pussies.

The point, if you were too wrapped up in confusing Mosaic Law with pacifism to notice it, is that the people of Afghanistan are not the people who did this, any more than those killed in the World Trade Center were responsible for the deaths of the Palestinians and Iraqis that Bin Laden claims to be avenging. As one Afghan expatriate put it, when you think of the people of Afghanistan, "think the Jews in the concentration camps."

Oh, and while you're thinking that over, consider: a massive military strike against Afghanistan is exactly what Bin Laden is hoping for. From the same article:

We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants... Read his speeches and statements... It might seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got a billion soldiers... He's probably wrong, in the end the west would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the belly for that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else?

Not me.

Agreed. Here's a bit by Brett in which he lays out his views on the GPL ("The GPL ... was designed explicitly to hurt programmers' livelihoods.") and Stallman (who "says that good wages for programmers should be 'banned.'")

I own stock in apple, lucent, beos, and palm. There are no real XML-RPC companies, userland developed XML-RPC and they are not publicly traded. Yes, apple is baking XML-RPC into it's OS, but you know what, MS is doing something similar with SOAP, and kde supports XML-RPC too.

Don't be so paranoid, just because someone loves a technology and owns stocks in companies that might possibly be related to it doesn't mean they are shamelessly plugging it. Maybe it just means the technology is good.

This is a really important debate right now, and there are no good answers. The debate comes down to how much do we need to do to the Web as we have it today to be able to create an environment where programs can be as interoperable as web browsers and servers are today?

There are growing criticisms of the consensus vision of web services -- http / SOAP / WSDL / UDDI -- largely on the grounds that its complexity is un-web-like, and that there are uninvented and possibly uninventable layers required above UDDI for any two arbitrary applications to be able to find each other in the dark.

Dave Winer of Userland, inventor of XML-RPC and co-designer of the SOAP spec, advocates an embrace of these two protocols by the Open Source movement as a lightweight way to advance the battle for interoperability. (Dave's ideas in many ways answer the Will Open Source Lose the Battle for the Web? article form earlier this month.)

Another group, in line with your "Apache is all we need" idea, has taken Roy Fielding's idea of the REST (REpresentational State Transfer) architecture as a way to extend existing web semantics furhter into the domain of applications. They have started a RESTWiki to expand on those ideas.

This is all a big mess right now, with no obvious clarity coming any time soon, but two things we can be certain of are that experiments with application-to-application traffic is going to increase dramatically in the next 12 months, whatever the framework, and that with MSFT driving this idea as part of .NET, even if a lot of it is hype, it will affect our world a great deal.

-clay

Three words: Blogger, blogger, blogger.

For those of you who read DaveNet, you know that he recently posted a piece about Blogger, and how they've used XML-RPC to do more interop. Read it. It's a very good piece, and it touches on why web-services are so important.

So why is it? Web services allow any application to talk meaningfully to a web-based application. Right now, all one can do is request documents. That's not meaningful communication to a program. It's only meaningful if one can make procedure calls. Then, your word processor can call an online app to do spell-checking, and stuff like that. More importantly, web services can talk to each-other, enabling a whole new sort of "OS", all web based, accessible from anywhere! That's why everyone thinks these are the next big thing.

Three words: Blogger, blogger, blogger.

For those of you who read DaveNet, you know that he recently posted a piece about Blogger, and how they've used XML-RPC to do more interop. Read it. It's a very good piece, and it touches on why web-services are so important.

So why is it? Web services allow any application to talk meaningfully to a web-based application. Right now, all one can do is request documents. That's not meaningful communication to a program. It's only meaningful if one can make procedure calls. Then, your word processor can call an online app to do spell-checking, and stuff like that. More importantly, web services can talk to each-other, enabling a whole new sort of "OS", all web based, accessible from anywhere! That's why everyone thinks these are the next big thing.

I wonder if Microsoft has been reading up on The Art of War... to paraphrase Dave Winer, they seem to be doing a good job of zagging, when everyone expected that they'd zig.

I wrote a brief piece for our web services newsletter that outlines three reasons why Microsoft would benefit from assisting the Mono project:

• Good will. Let's not underestimate this intangible comfort and buy-in that Microsoft can garner by pointing to an alternative implementation. .NET may be a bet-the-house strategy for the company, but the company is nothing if not pragmatic. What it loses in incremental market share to Mono, it more than makes up in wider acceptance of its basic approach -- and denies companies like IBM and Sun some share of their potential customers that would buy anything but Microsoft.
• Critical mass. Mono may be open source, but it still will provide built-in hooks for Passport and other elements of the Hailstorm strategy. What delicious irony that an alternative on the server side ultimately will drive wider adoption of the services that provide real lock-in on the consumption side!
• Counterweight to J2EE. Although the open source community is far from monolithic, it's not entirely unfair to say that there's a preponderance of support among these developers for approaches backed by Sun and the Java/J2EE licensees over those pushed by Microsoft. If Mono helps keep Linux-centric developers solidly in the middle, then the .NET has denied its opponents a formidable, if unpredictable, group of allies.

Does this make sense?

Bent Sleeper
The Stencil Group

A crisis such as this one is an important test case for Slashdot as an organizing medium for the tech community. In this instance, Slashdot has completely failed. Even just reporting about the protests would not have been enough, you need to motivate people to take part in such a protest shortly before it. Show images, link to videos, post a permanent story on the front page -- that singals importance. You have to reach people's emotions to get them off their asses (and for that, you have to get off your own ass, Hemos). Do you think CmdrTaco and Hemos will understand that? Or will anyone who points out their failure simply be moderated down? Slashdot is a site with great political potential -- but in spite of years in the making, it has failed to realize its potential so far.

Visitors only have a limited viewtime per day. Do you really want to give that all to Slashdot, if it degenerates into a fake community site primarily giving you a highly filtered digest of CNN, ZDNet, Wired News and press releases? If this is not a test case -- an unjust arrest, an unconstitutional law, rallies all over the nation --, then what is?

You may want to check out some alternatives:

• Kuro5hin is a user-moderated community with a wide scope of topics (specific issue-related stories are usually voted up by the users if well-presented, stories are not typically one-liners like on Slashdot. I've never seen a really good story voted down on K5)
• Advogato is a very open community with trust-based moderation that has often discussed issues related to information freedom
• Indymedia is a leftist general community news outlet that sometimes has tech stories as well
• infoAnarchy is a Scoop-based weblog discussing issues of copyright and information freedom which I edit (here's my summary of Dmitry's case)
• Wes Felter's weblog is a pretty good digest of current tech-related events
• Radio Userland allows you to automatically compile a personal digest from many web news-sources using RSS (Windows and MacOS) -- if Slashdot is only mainstream news, you might as well use a tool like this one

Others?

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I don't know if he started it, but Dave Winer promoted Microsoft-Free Fridays in response to Microsoft's SmartTags (which are still in Office, and will will surely end up in Internet Explorer at some point).

check out scripting news today and yesterday ...hmm.

check out scripting news today and yesterday ...hmm.

You know, I still own lots of stock in overhyped companies, and when the dot-com crash happened, I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. But I swear, it was worth it just to know that ESR's shit-eating grin has finally vanished -- you know, that one I imagine he had on while writing Surprised By Wealth, the most insanely arrogant, egotistical, boorish, and self-centered brag piece I have ever seen from someone who has money.

Fine, Eric. You made money. Great. Lots of people did. But most people don't go shouting from the rafters "Look at me! I have money! And you can't have any! And I will not give any to charity unless they grovel and beg, but don't do that because then I won't give any to you!"

Whoa, that rant has been building for a while.

You might want to try my site: http://www.newsisfree.com/

If you're tired of MyNetscape, it offers over 1400 news sources you can arrange in boxes as you like.

NewsIsFree also exports most of them many formats such as many RSS flavors (for use with Radio Userland, Headline Viewer or AmphetaDesk, but also JavaScript or HTML easy integration on your web site.

Also, check out this page, for a list of other RSS providers.

doh -- my bad. Real link is here (let that be a lesson to me)

Thanks for the clear statement. I couldn't agree more. I wrote a bit about working together on Scripting News this morning before reading this thread. To the RDF guys, working together means not breaking all the developers who implemented 0.91 channels, regardless of how right you think you are.

From Dave's Scripting News on Friday, 27 Apr 01:

From the If-It-Weren't-So-Sad-It-Would-Be-Funny Department, yesterday when Netscape (apparently) deprecated RSS and broke all the links to their RSS stuff, they also broke people whose XML parsers require a DTD. The old URL for the RSS 0.91 DTD is totally 404 not found. John Munsch has a report from the field. I put a copy of the DTD into a folder here on scripting.com, and it will stay there, Murphy-willing, for perpetuity.

You can find his copy of the DTD here.

J.J.

This is merely Vital information.

As seen on the site:

How 0.92 relates to 0.91
RSS 0.92 is upward-compatible with RSS 0.91.
Every new feature of 0.92 is optional, meaning that a 0.91 file is also a valid 0.92 file.

Now if Netscrape would only document this better and let the rest of the world what is going on.

Check out the Vinny the Vampire comic strip

If you're looking for the already implemented RSS 0.92 look here There's also a reference to RSS 0.93 on which development started on April 01,2001.

Please credit your source, plagiarist karma whore. Thank you.

Thankfully alot of these pages use features like RSS or other types of syndication so you can still get the latest headlines via a program like Radio

Thankfully alot of these pages use features like RSS or other types of syndication so you can still get the latest headlines via a program like Radio

I read about blogger last week, and also Manilla (http://manila.userland.com/).
Can some with some hands-on experience with these things explain the difference between them and the super-high priced content management systems like Broadvision and Vignette?
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I noticed that the NYT was much less flattering of Microsoft than Dave was.... His point seemed to be that this is a major strategic mistake on Microsoft's part.

I say, let us zig to their zag-- as they try to centralize, let us decentralize.

Also notice that Free software is the bane of this sort of model because the major arguement for centralized application serving is the fact that it can often cut the number of licenses that need to be puchased for a given piece of software.

I do think that there is a place for Application Service Providers, but that their role will probably be geared mostly to small businesses because this is the only market segment where real value can be added. This is .NET's potential market.

If you're interested, he's talking mainly about MS and IBM adding WSDL to the SOAP spec. The original userland article is here: http://davenet.userland.com/2001/03/29/unstallingS oap

Actually, it really isn't too simplistic.

Dave Winer is closing in on this with his just released Radio Userland product. It's a fairly generic product that uses XML, XML-RPC, SOAP, etc. to exchange information between clients and client-server. It doesn't much matter whether it's headlines, mp3 files, quicktime movies, news stories, html templates, whatever. It has the plug-in archtecture and a built-in database, scripting language, web client and server. I don't see any reason why it couldn't also work as a CPU sharing mechanism as with Seti@home. I could probably write such a plug-in for his product in a day.

Moving from C++ to Java results in a 2x improvement in programmer productivity, he says, while the move from C++ to Python results in a 5x to 10x improvement. He is still developing his reasons as to why this is the case, but he believes that Python allows a programmer to focus on concepts, rather than on mechanics.

Lacking any scientific studies, Bruce offered his top ten reasons why he loves Python:

10. Reduced Clutter - The indented nature of Python makes it easier to read, an important criteria since code is read more often than it is written. According the the extreme programming (XP) folks, consistant formatting really is important.

9. It's not Backward Compatible in Exchange for Pain - Many popular languages promote their backward compatability, but at the cost to the programmer of awkward syntax (C++ and Perl) and lots of typing (Java).

8. It Doesn't Value Performance Over Productivity - Rather than forcing the programmer to implement awkward coding sequences for the sake of "speed," Python implements easy-to-learn idioms (but allows extensions to be written in C when performance becomes an issue).

7. It Doesn't Treat Me Like I'm Stupid - Python doesn't prevent operator overloading, doesn't insist on type declarations, and it doesn't pretend to be something that it isn't.

6. I Don't Wait Forever for a Full Implementation of the Language - C++ still does not fully implement features invented by the C++ committee.

5. It Does Not Make Assumptions About How We Discover Errors - Python does not force static type checking, moving the programmer quickly along to the discovery of errors using "real" data.

4. Marketing People Are Not Involved... Yet -- Java and MS Visual C++ have been over-hyped.

3. I Don't Have to Type So Much - Not obscure like APL, not endlessly inventive like Perl or FORTH, not verbose like Java.

2. My Guesses are Usually Right - Java and C++ require programmers to constantly look up syntax in a language reference. Python idioms are easier.

1. Python Let Me Focus on Concepts - No stumbling through Java designs, no fighting with C++ compilations or runtime bugs."

PS...if you've been living under a rock, Zope is the Open Source Application server and is Python's "killer app". Also, Bruce's books are available for free online and available from mirrors listed at http://www.mindview.net/DownloadSites/

Curious George

Another article about XML-RPC

According to Jeff Walsh's InfoWorld article, Microsoft is planning to open up their operating system using XML-RPC. Such a protocol could be deployed quickly in other operating systems that support HTTP, ranging from Perl scripts running on Linux, to Quark publishing systems running on Macs, to relational databases running on mainframe systems. It could put Windows at the center of a new kind of web, one built of logic, storing objects and methods, not just pages and graphics.

If this is not just hype this could really allow Linux/BSD replace any NT/Windows machine

It is good to hear ESR's views on this subject too - he is an articulate and interesting writer.
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Clarity does not require the absence of impurities,

As far as I know, it is not possible to know whether a site provides an RDF feed unless it is either driven by Slashcode (where the feed is provided at http://www.website.org/website.rdf as in the case of Slashdot) or Manila (where the RDF-like RSS feed is available from http://website.com/xml/rss.xml). xmltree.com is a good directory of various news feed formats, and there is an excellent weblog which is a Manila site, and so has an RSS feed here. While I'm sure some other content management systems provide feeds, I'm not aware of the default addresses for them.

I know, I wish Slashdot had the same type of WYSIWYG editor that my weblog does. It uses Manila, from Userland, to allow WYSIWYG in IE 5+ for Windows, at least. I know that isn't the Slashdot audience, but I'm betting 30% of the hits here come on IE...
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I know, I wish Slashdot had the same type of WYSIWYG editor that my weblog does. It uses Manila, from Userland, to allow WYSIWYG in IE 5+ for Windows, at least. I know that isn't the Slashdot audience, but I'm betting 30% of the hits here come on IE...
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Gene Rayburn Rules!

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What is this?
whois yahoo.com
and this?
whois slashdot.org

What is all that stuff?

What is this?
whois yahoo.com
and this?
whois slashdot.org

What is all that stuff?