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I get the same result. I thought I had sent my complaint (reference this post via their web form, but upon clicking back over to that tab I noticed the same error you got. So, to contact them about Zango's abusive business practices, I have to install Zango's abusive software to interact with their server, or it generates an error? Wow. Somebody's smoking some good stuff at Snopes. WHIOS has the following registry data for snopes.com:

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Mikkelson, David
snopes@best.com
P.O. Box 684
Agoura Hills, CA 91376
US
Phone: (702) 988-4047
Fax: (818) 261-3054

The phone number appears to ring to offices at "best.com", who says their offices are presently closed and offer to take a message. Keying "best.com" into your browser will redirect to Verio. And round and round we go. I think I'll send a fax to the number listed in WHOIS.

It's all spelled out in considerable detail. I wonder if it is applied consistently to all of Verio's customers?

Yes, and - they do exist. And they're often hiring. They're everywhere, but they're usually small companies, and you wouldn't know about them unless you knew people already working there.

I work for http://verio.com/Verio in the VPS tech support center in Orem. I love where I work. I love what I do. I like the people I work with. However, the MOST important factor is that the company's values and goals are consistant with mine. I used to work for http://sento.com/Sento. While there I was horribly dissatisfied and burned out. So far as the previous employer went, I was a disposable cog in their machine.

Verio is hiring by the way. I don't know what working in the data centers or other locations is like, I just know that I currently have the best benefits package I've ever seen and had a 70% base pay increase when I changed jobs. I also moved to a position where I learn something new and relevant every day (as opposed to maybe finding out how to manually remove yet another Windows virus).

Both Google and Yahoo! are supporting Wikipedia by providing hosting. Let's take a look at how a plain old hosting provider may influence its customers:
http://www.verio.com/about/legal/aup.cfm

Note in particular:
Other Activities -- Engaging in activities, whether lawful or unlawful, that Verio determines to be harmful to its subscribers, operations, reputation, goodwill, or customer relations.

Since Yahoo and Google are donating hosting, you could argue that they might hold even greater influence over Wikipedia (i.e. we're giving this to you for free so you have to play by all our rules).

I assume that Wikipedia's position is that since they will diversify across several donors, if one becomes too restrictive, the content in question could be moved to services provided by a different donnor.

For example, if Wikipedia had an article which put Google's search technology in a better light than Yahoo!, then Yahoo! might not want to have a part in hosting those articles. But because Wikipedia gets hosting donated from multiple sources, it could just move the offending material to a host not provided by Yahoo!

What the submission doesn't say is what the core business of the startup is. What do you want to bet they're trying to go into business as a discount virtual host/datacenter?

There are some multi-million dollar data centers out there sitting totally empty and just begging to be bought. Ask commercial real estate agents in any large city - companies like NTT/Verio fully built out quite a few, then dumped them all on the market when the bubble burst.

I should have done a Google first. It's no rumor, native IPv6 from Verio in the US: NTT/Verio

This may be the news item you were referring to about Verio.
"June 25, 2003 - Verio, a subsidiary of NTT Communications (NTT Com) and a leader in global IP solutions, today announced it will be the first Internet service provider in the United States to deliver large-scale connectivity in North America of Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6), the next generation communication platform for Internet data traffic. The pre-commercial service is available immediately. "

Verio

The basic solution is to move your servers -- at least the ones that will be handling high bursts of traffic -- to an offsite, dedicated hosting facility. A facility like this will have big pipes coming in with the cost split among all of their customers, and typically offer you pricing based on burstable bandwidth use.

It's just not economical for a single company with occasional high-bandwidth requirements to bring in a pipe that sits idle 90% of the time. A co-location facility will serve many different customers who may have spikes of bandwidth usage, but their spikes will typically not be simultaneous, making overall bandwidth usage more efficient.

Lots of hosting providers offer this, including Verio, Dynamic Hosting, Superb Hosting and many others.

Verio is one of the remaining providers that performs filtering. These filters currently extend out to /22. You can view their peer filtering policy here

Who gives a shit?

It's a World Expo, not an "OMG 1337 CHEX0r mY BoX3n!" enthusiast site. Whoever designed the site for the venue, runs a dedicated IIS off of Verio, and hosted it accordingly.

It renders just fine in Phoenix/RH8

It you were to pay for a Dedicated Server at RackShack, it's cost you $99 (plus a one-time setup of approx $200).

Since that $99 buys 400 Gbyte/month of bandwidth at RackShack, distributing 100 GB would not only not cost "many times more"... it would cost exactly the same $99 as 10 GB.

Of course, there is the minor issue of their AUP prohibiting distribution that infringes copyright... but if it were 10 or 100 GB of something you has the right to distribute, 10, 100 and even 400 GB would cost exactly the same, if you used RackShack!

Just to give one more example, stepping up from the bargain basement to Verio's Dedicated Hosting (which happens to be how amy own website is hosted), you'd pay $395 per month which includes 50 Gbytes of bandwidth. Verio sells bandwidth in $150 GB allocations for $150, so 10 GB would cost you $395 and 100 GB would cost $545. That happens to be a 38% increase, which is hardly "many times more".

FWIW, I got a great deal at Verio in the dot-com bust and they sold me an older dedicated server at approx 1/2 of the normal rate, so in my case going to 10 GB to 100 GB would approximately double my bill. (my site uses about 15 Gbyte/month, and it's slowly and steadily growing as the site expands and more people find it)

There are thousands of other companies on the net offering hosting for larger and higher bandwidth sites.... but here's at least two solid examples that flatly disprove the absurd notion that 100 GB costs a lot more that 10 GB.

Nobody is obligated to provide this guy with internet service. And those who do provide it are entitled to limit the terms in any way they please.

Having been in the ISP business and the hosting business for quite some time, I can attest to the fact that it's wise to take a very strict approach to spam/spammers. If Verio doesn't cut this guy off, the black hole lists may decide that entire blocks of their IP's should be listed. How would you respond to being blacklisted because your "IP neighbor" thinks he should be allowed to maintain an open relay simply for the sake of the convenience. Verio would loose customers if they didn't act.

According to Verio's AUP (last modified March 9, 2000):

Spamming -- Sending unsolicited bulk and/or commercial messages over the Internet (known as "spamming"). It is not only harmful because of its negative impact on consumer attitudes toward NTT/VERIO, but also because it can overload NTT/VERIO's network and disrupt service to NTT/VERIO subscribers. Also, maintaining an open SMTP relay is prohibited. When a complaint is received, NTT/VERIO has the discretion to determine from all of the evidence whether the email recipients were from an "opt-in" email list.

Of course, if you have a static IP (and your ISP doesn't block incoming port 25 requests) you could also set up your own mailserver and create a MX record for it. ZoneEdit also offers (for $11/year) a backup store-and-forward mailserver in case your connection goes down. Since you own the domain, you can create as many email addresses as you want -- you can easily provide addresses for your family and friends.

There's really no excuse to whine about losing email addresses, when it's so cheap and easy to provide them for yourself.

Verio's Virtual Private Server runs a modified FreeBSD 4.2 to accomplish this. Verio acquired best.com (bay area legends) and their VPS technology quite some time ago.

Verio has been doing the same thing (also with FreeBSD) for quite some time. They give you a virtual kernel and call it a Virtual Private Server. 10-20 clients per machine, max. It works quite nicely, too.

Actually your wrong.

Verio runs pop-before-smtp across their ENTIRE network. It is easy to setup, pop-before-smtp done properly DOES work, as does SMTP-AUTH.

-davidu

Even going to www.brillig.com gives you a 500 Server Error
Hmm...Even with Verio's bronze package (where the site looks like it's hosted on), you get 5 gig's of monthly data transfer...burning the bandwidth fast...
- grunby

Oops! You might want to check that link before telling us coloc only costs $150 a month. You probably need to check the Verio DataCenter page where they offer REAL colocation - not just a "virtual" server.

They include Perl, {my,m,postgre}SQL, PHP4, 400 MB disk, free bandwitdth to multiple T3's, etc...

• Fuck Censorship!
• ONDCP: Oppressive Network Drug Content Propaganda
• Elian Raid
• DARE Sucks

http://home.verio.com/

Here's my solution to the "different email" problem.

First off, you@yahoo.com looks pretty fishy for a nice, reputable looking site. What, you mean you use a free web email account even though you have a spiffy, .com site? Here's how I'd fix it.

Option 1- Make sure your host will delegate subdomains for you at no charge. It's a piece of cake for them to do, and you're already giving them your business. Make a subdomain mail.yourdomain.com and have that point to a different mail server than your hosts'. The bad part of this is that it still will rely on your ISPs dns servers, but it won't rely on their email servers.

Option 2- Forward your emails out of their system to another account you have. paolo@ideafuture.com forwards to my regular email, so nothing sits on my host's email servers. The advantage to this is you can assign a second or third dns server to your domain and have a semblance of redundancy.

These are not foolproof suggestions by any means. The only way to have control over your site is to colocate with a good provider. Check out the company and the facilities (in person) beforehand. Office.com has a nice service when you sign up where you can look up company information based on name, city, and state. There are quite a few webhosting-type businesses in there. Also, I know someone who has had excellent reliability with colocatiing at Verio, on a Linux box no less. 255 days of uptime and counting, and pretty good rates.

Sorry, this is the correct url for the slackware / gnome howto.

http://www.ncal.verio.c om/~hakker/slackware-gnome-HOWTO.txt

For those that keep complaining about Slackware not being a modern system, wise up. It is a base point for a completely customized distro and as fast as linux can possibly be on an intel machine. If your willing to put in the time (if you know what your doing, its not a lot of time), you can make Slack do whatever you want. Glibc2, sure fine. Changed directories, filesystems, etc. Sure fine. Compatibilty with RPM, DEB, tar balls, SLP etc. Sure, no problem. Run any program, compiled to your liking for optimum speed or install some stupid binaries. Ok. Run anything Xwise, including GNOME ( see link) and everyhing else. No problem. Have it be a bleeding edge work station or a server/switch that you throw in the closet or install from floppies. That is the whole point of slack. Start behind, do what you want to get current the way you like it. They didn't leave out glibc2 because they are lazy. There is so much complaining, you can probably expect to see it in next distro, but it is not in Slackware's style. This is also one possible reason why you don't see to many updates of the distro. I hope this one makes some of you happy. Slack kicks ass. /rant