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Re:Here's an idea
That's not really an easy fix... There are dozens of video sites with millions of videos each. Most ISPs dont have the resources to chache the number of distinct files were talking about.
10ge, 40ge, 100ge, the capacity will grow when the money makes sense. Even small video sites push terabytes of traffic per month, expecting a full caching model to work is almost silly. There's a certain benefit for a small set of large, popular files, but that's not what's causing the problem - its the sheer number of obscure files that may only appear in cache once a month... -
Who's next?
What do AOL, Yahoo, MSN, and the like snap up to compete?
FileRatings ( http://www.fileratings.com/Video ) lists these as the top sites:
http://www.metacafe.com/
http://www.castpost.com/
http://www.clipshack.com/
http://www.blinkx.com/
http://dailymotion.com/
http://blip.tv/
http://vidoegg.com/
http://www.vimeo.com/
http://www.phanfare.com/
http://vobbo.com/
http://ourmedia.org/ -
Bubble bubble bubble
Lots of others out there still, Vobbo wants some love.
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The network effect makes competition DIFFICULT
Competitors to Microsoft exist: Apple, Linux
Competitors to Yahoo exist: Google, etc.
Competitors to MySpace exist: Facebook, etc.
Competitors to YouTube exist: Revver, Vobbo.
The network makes it difficult, but nobody's ever given up because something was difficult. There are always options, and yes - there can be significant barriers to entry, but it's never "impossible". -
Re:Who cares?
There's some great videos out there on the various sites. Most of them are just crap, but the classics like George Costanza ("I must be out of I'd pick up the phone") clips are worth the effort to find them.
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Re:Looks like the rider beat the horse
Sad? It'll take about a month for all the users to migrate to one of the dozens of alternative sites that act in the same way and have slightly different features.
Those that want DRM and community support will hit grouper. Those that want porn will hit pornotube. The people who just want to use their webcams and view amateur clips will use vobbo. The ones that want to open license their content will use ourmedia, and the ones that want revenue sharing will use revver.
Dozens of alternatives, just look at The list. -
Done and
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It's all relative...
950M, 650M, 250M, 250K. It's pulling 20gbps of data and has millions of eyes watching ad-ready video players.
It's only worth what it can make in a reasonable amount of time, and that time is growing short as video blogging competitors build their userbases.
Eventually their huge market share will begin being split by competiing sites that slightly beat their technology, and then the value starts to fall... -
Are you by chance in the german coastguard?
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Re:the obvious use
Now just couple this with droid guns and we're in for quite the show.
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Re:All good marketing is viral
MySpace allows FAR TOO MUCH variety in the types of content it allows, and is FAR TOO LAX in the way it allows most user actions to be performed. First, allowing any user to post virtually any type of file is a recipe for disaster. It works great for other sites that want to capitalize (for example, sites that want to post videos on myspace, but not so great when that content is something you don't want to see. They don't filter content well (regular expressions to remove things like the '#' character, for example, will stop very few attacks), and the number of scripted bulletins / posts / comments (situations where you visit a page, and that page uses javascript to publish a link back to itself to all of your friends) should be proof positive that unauthenticated POSTing works great for the first million users, but breaks when you get popular. Slashdot learned all of these lessons years ago - once you get popular, the trolls will find you, and then your users will regret it.
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Google, Youtube don't do cam captures...
But other free services like Vobbo do.
Yet another competitor in an already very full market. Not seeing the purpose, but throw more money into the ring. -
Don't be silly ...
Space? There's no money in space! The telescope is just making long distance NSFW internet porn NSFW easier and easier.
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You wonder about felony acts?
I wonder about adult acts that are being committed that we're not being shown. Come on, adult video bloggers unite.
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The key to going where Google isn't...
Is to explore the content that Google ignores. The next 'breakthrough' in search engines will advance on Google Images and Google Video by being able to discover objects in images and understand text in video.
Being able to search video hosting sites for a phrase without requiring manual entry of the script (if one even exists) would be incredibly useful. -
Re:pft...1Gbit/s -1 FLAMEBAIT
As someone who manages a video hosting site, I'd agree that 1Gbps wouldn't normally be much at all (at the last NANOG, YouTube mentioned they were doing about 20Gbps). However, for bittorrent style distribution, you split the bandwidth among many peers - the 1Gbps link is mostly for initial torrent downloads and tracker bandwidth, not nearly as demanding as streaming full content.
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Better use for phones in social networking
A better use is vobbo's video blog + video phone integration, where you can post pictures and video from the phone to the web. Don't try to type with a silly keypad, don't try to view video/picture on limited resolution, use it as an input device and get back to using the web the way you meant to all along.
Get the media online quickly and easily, that's what people really seem to care about, anyway. -
Better use for phones in social networking
A better use is vobbo's video blog + video phone integration, where you can post pictures and video from the phone to the web. Don't try to type with a silly keypad, don't try to view video/picture on limited resolution, use it as an input device and get back to using the web the way you meant to all along.
Get the media online quickly and easily, that's what people really seem to care about, anyway. -
Re:does anyone else hear it?
It's not popped yet, but there may be one building.
As someone who runs a small video blogging / social networking site, I promise you that there are VCs and investment banks all over this year. -
IPTV will be as bad as normal TV ...
... because the programming will still suck.
Until the viewers are put in charge of their own destiny, the number of watchable shows is going to stay < 10 hours per month.
Wait for a video blogging/podcasting service (maybe something like youtube, or more traditional like maniatv, or more bloggy like vobbo) to push IPTV in a truly addicting format.
On-demand and interesting content - you need both to replace the current setup. -
Re:Damn, pr0n in the title...
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Once again with correct formatting...They should be looking for a social network with video. The benefits of non-traditional social networks for large companies are significant:
- Growing social network for repeat visitors and easy advertising
- Incorporation of core media focus (video / audio) into that social network
- Natural advertisement opportunities at beginning/end of media files rather than interrupting natural flow in text - that is, it's inherently easier to advertise in/around video than in text pages where it's always an interruption.
- Growing social network for repeat visitors and easy advertising
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The inevitable killer app comment
You have to have a reason to require broadband. Websites load slowly with dialup, so that's not a convincing argument. Things like video blogs that use online recording through the browser don't work with dialup - while many people won't care about this, a new mom trying to send video of her kids to family members only to see choppy images with no audio may be convinced by such an argument. Some people won't have a killer app, won't upgrade, and - even though I make a living off of high speed networking - I can't say I blame them. Some people just don't need the newest technologies, and likely never will.
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It's not like other countries are any different...
I run a Video blog site, and some of my favorite users are those who just show up to mess around
... like these guys from Canada or this gentleman in Korea (apparently currently visiting China)
The internet's great for "work", but it's not bad for just pure entertainment and relaxation either. Beats the hell out of TV, in any event. -
It's not like other countries are any different...
I run a Video blog site, and some of my favorite users are those who just show up to mess around
... like these guys from Canada or this gentleman in Korea (apparently currently visiting China)
The internet's great for "work", but it's not bad for just pure entertainment and relaxation either. Beats the hell out of TV, in any event. -
It's not like other countries are any different...
I run a Video blog site, and some of my favorite users are those who just show up to mess around
... like these guys from Canada or this gentleman in Korea (apparently currently visiting China)
The internet's great for "work", but it's not bad for just pure entertainment and relaxation either. Beats the hell out of TV, in any event. -
Re:I'm not convinced about internet radio...
Radio in general is great if you have no other options - when you're driving, when you're in an office without { TV , computers }, and so on. Once you have an internet connected computer, you've opened yourself up for more information - online streaming video.
Connection / bandwidth issues aside (because they're mostly solvable given sufficient interest), internet radio is just extending traditional radio and relies on great hosts to carry you over into another realm (there are no other real advantages - traditional radio has better quality and more variety in most areas, and you're going to get ads either way).
The way forward will be streaming, on demand video broadcasts - internet TV, if you will. Not sure if the momentum will come from internet tv specialty sites or from video blog sites, but there's a ton of potential in both... -
Easy solution
This is a staffer job.
Easy solution: Enable Video Blogging -
Silly
Some teenagers are happy.
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Video blogs
They post Video of them
(No real nudity... just cleavage). -
HOT POCKETS
I love hot pockets
How's that for useless webcamming? :) -
Re:Faith in numbers
The step from blogging to podcasting is big and takes time and talent to do properly. The step from podcasting to vidcasting is even bigger and takes even more time and more talent, but you can't dismiss it just because you're afraid that 1 million kids with videophones will clutter up your browser
Exactly. For every Jackass kid doing something stupid and recording it with a cell phone, there's a dozen legitimate uses like recording a new baby for family across the country or sending videos to loved ones in Iraq.
Video blogging will be just like traditional blogging - some quality, mostly crap, but all of it interesting to the intended audience. The stop up, to amateur video broadcasting, is even more exciting, but will take time and talent - luckily for us, two things people seem to have these days. -
Re:Faith in numbers
The step from blogging to podcasting is big and takes time and talent to do properly. The step from podcasting to vidcasting is even bigger and takes even more time and more talent, but you can't dismiss it just because you're afraid that 1 million kids with videophones will clutter up your browser
Exactly. For every Jackass kid doing something stupid and recording it with a cell phone, there's a dozen legitimate uses like recording a new baby for family across the country or sending videos to loved ones in Iraq.
Video blogging will be just like traditional blogging - some quality, mostly crap, but all of it interesting to the intended audience. The stop up, to amateur video broadcasting, is even more exciting, but will take time and talent - luckily for us, two things people seem to have these days. -
Re:Faith in numbers
The step from blogging to podcasting is big and takes time and talent to do properly. The step from podcasting to vidcasting is even bigger and takes even more time and more talent, but you can't dismiss it just because you're afraid that 1 million kids with videophones will clutter up your browser
Exactly. For every Jackass kid doing something stupid and recording it with a cell phone, there's a dozen legitimate uses like recording a new baby for family across the country or sending videos to loved ones in Iraq.
Video blogging will be just like traditional blogging - some quality, mostly crap, but all of it interesting to the intended audience. The stop up, to amateur video broadcasting, is even more exciting, but will take time and talent - luckily for us, two things people seem to have these days. -
Video is coming
Hopefully more and more Video Blog services - which will lead to amateur TV over IP, begin integrating with amateur video to/from cell phones, and more video from more sources in more locations. More, better, everywhere.
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Whatever it takes
Whatever it takes to get our military men and women home safely. Good luck. Merry christmas. Stay safe.
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vlogging, vidcasting, etc.
Amateur broadcasting of media... none of it matters until there's a good reason to do it. As for video blogging / vidcasting, the best reason to date is sending video messages to active soldiers serving overseas. All it takes is a webcam and 30 seconds to record, viewable around the world, independent of timezones, with software that's already available on 97% of computers anyway.
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vlogging, vidcasting, etc.
Amateur broadcasting of media... none of it matters until there's a good reason to do it. As for video blogging / vidcasting, the best reason to date is sending video messages to active soldiers serving overseas. All it takes is a webcam and 30 seconds to record, viewable around the world, independent of timezones, with software that's already available on 97% of computers anyway.
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Re:The future as I'd want it (early adopter)
I agree with most of your comments (except for the anarchocapitalist, that's certainly not me, but I understand your principal even if I don't agree with the theory) - certainly the widespread availability of low cost, zero barrier to entry media is going to change the way the world works - different players will step forward (Google as an aggregrator, for example), so it'll replace one large entity with another, but the change will still be nice.
Slightly changing the topic - how long would you imagine your 'video-style podcast' would be? Is 5 minute clips sufficient? 10? 30? 60? How long can you keep yourself (and audience) entertained?
Trying to find a good number for my pet project in order to balance bandwidth costs with reasonable defaults. -
Re:The future as I'd want it (early adopter)
Everything I see is pointing to the fact that people want on demand video more and more
This move is just yet another step in the line towards TV-over-IP. The big providers are already lining up, and the startups are hoping onboard. Guys like ManiaTV are going for the traditional route (centalized programming), while Vobbo and others are starting to look towards the amateur video broadcasting (public access TV for the internet - even easier, when you don't need a studio, just a webcam).
The big players will roll out their offerings in the next year or so, I believe. You'll start seeing 'interactive tv' first, until the ball starts rolling... -
Re:Not sure why you'd want that
How about Videos like this?
I don't know about you, but if my wife's family could use computers, we'd record pictures of our kids like that, and I think that would be a GREAT use of technology. -
The only one with native video ...
Is vobbo
Sure, many people don't care about native video, but if you do, check us out. -
Re:Evolution of software and the web
Some sites/blogging engines even provide RSS feeds for specific search terms.
Vobbo (Yay video blogs!!!@a1!) allows custom RSS feeds for any term. A G-rated example would be something like: this search for 'Pugs' -
Re:Evolution of software and the web
Some sites/blogging engines even provide RSS feeds for specific search terms.
Vobbo (Yay video blogs!!!@a1!) allows custom RSS feeds for any term. A G-rated example would be something like: this search for 'Pugs' -
Internet TV is next
First comes mainstream TV on the net.
Then comes internet only TV.
On-demand, lower broadcast costs, and the replacement of 'public access' with equal opportunity online broadcasts all push internet video over it's ancient predecesor.
It's only a matter of time until the TV joins the newspaper in it's slow walk to the grave. -
Re:Vobbo is Better!
http://www.vobbo.com/user/rickrich/entry/906
vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=MmFSrNipR0Q
Same mp4 shot with Sony DSC-M1, works on youtube but not on vobbo. -
Vobbo is Better!
Vobbo is better! More file formats, but you can use your own domain, make rss feeds for any search term, and embed videos in other annoying trendy sites
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Re:Watching on the PC?
You're right - the question really is 'would you use video-on-demand on your computer', and many people seem willing. Your comment, though, ignores the fact that video on demand only works 'well' for 1 (cable) of the 3 (air, cable, satellite) common video distribution systems. It happens to work very well for broadband.
The fact is that multiple recent studies (1 with a pretty picture) have shown that very desirable demographics (males, 21-30, for example) spend a LOT of time on the internet, which means advertising dollars will shift that way, too. If you can contain that audience in long-lasting, attention-heavy communication (like, say, video over IP), then you can make a significant amount of money.
If people are already at their computers, and you can get them to play a movie with ads (before, during, after), then there's money to be made, and that's what you'll see happen. The comfort level will increase (people who spend a lot of time in their chairs will buy better chairs and bigger monitors), and while it won't replace the TV for movies with loved ones, it may certainly replace (or at least, supplement for some percentage of the population) normal TV delivery methods for weekly shows.
Incidently, the video over IP has many other advantages, like giving amateur video producers the same opportunities that traditional podcasting gives amateur radio hosts - one of the ways people have been using vobbo is not necessarily as a blogging tool, but as an amateur video broadcast - it's essentially free ($45 webcam with mic), easy to distribute (links, RSS), and replaces the hassle of things like public access television. -
Re:A few choices...
What they really need to do is video blogging / video casting, and then buy a $45 logitech webcam with mic builtin.
Record your own TV shows, I'll comp anyone who's serious and does a science-related broadcast. -
Re:Can't they just...
Yea, whatever you do, don't use a video blog service and show your face all over the internet.