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Davis Freeberg submitted linkage to a short story talking about Skypecasting Television. Essentially using Skype and Yahoo Messenger to rebroadcast video to the internet. While it isn't a PVR, it circumvents the regionally oriented programming that prevents the UK from watching our "Football" or us from getting Dr Who. It also raises yet another battlefront the content owners will need to contend with in the upcoming years.
While it isn't a PVR, it circumvents the regionally oriented programming that prevents the UK from watching our "Football" or us from getting Dr Who.
You can already get football from a variety of sites, at least one is hosted in China, no idea where the others are, you just have to put up with the commentary. Further, by Fox Soccer Channel and PPV you have access to more matches than you do in the UK, where IIRC 4 matches are televised out of the EPL schedule each match day. If you're wishing to watch Everton v Sunderland, or some other low end of the table match, you are out of luck.
It also raises yet another battlefront the content owners will need to contend with in the upcoming years.
Oh, yes. Expect all digital signals to have some encoded regionality which is intended to put the content owner in command. The major problem with these methods is they effectively kill foreign markets, because there's usually no distributor or the distributor asks too high a cost for content, which ultimately drives piracy.
Maybe some day they'll learn that you can maximize profit by maximizing access.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
I had a system set up two years using Applescripts, PHP, iChat AV, and a TV tuner to broadcast TV over the internet to any iChat or AIM-equipped machine. It used a php script to change channels, etc. It was pretty great but now that I'm at college rather than boarding school, it's much easier to just use the cable in my room here.
I'd like to arrange for their prompt and bloody assassination.
Thanks to new UK legislation that is threatening to allow product placement advertisers will be getting their crap pushed and 'content' creators will be getting their 20 pieces of silver no matter how you rebroadcast space cadets 97: the final farce... so why should they care?
Beep beep.
Bah, give it six months and it'll just be lots of fat, sweaty nerds talking about other fat, sweaty nerds.
So, no different from podcasting then.
/ zing
While I dont have anything automated setup, I've been using iChat to receive my hometown NFL games for the last two years. This "Skypecasting" isn't exactly new. Not to mention the variety of online pay sites that exist, and things like Slingbox.
You know, im from Ecuador and now im studying in Germany. But it piss me off, that german tv and german cable sucks. At my home i have espn and i can watch mostly all the games in want to watch and with the commentators i want to hear. Now, should i pay again the tv rights here in Germany AGAIN when i am already paying there in Ecuador?? It is true that not many people are in my position and tv channels and corporations will have to redesign their business (how can in example be narutos rights of tv lucrative, when everybody has already downloaded it via BT or in Germany the tv rights for Scrubs. Harder times awaits the tv business. Specially here in Germany
Podcasting, Skypecasting, ummmm... blogcasting? Seriously, it's just a media stream, not something new. Please invent words responsibly.
Links please?
Let's give a catchy buzzword to a non existant problem so that we can attract the masses of clueless people to the concept who will inevitably post questions all about the net in an attempt to gain access to this "Skypecasting" which will lead to the creation of one or two small skypecasting applications which will inevitably draw the attention of the media companies who will see it as a massive problem plaguing their business and inevitably bring about lawsuits and laws which serve to do nothing other than make life more difficult and suckier for the common man.
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Oh man, I just start to drool whenever I read something like this that I know will piss the MPAA off!
OTOH, these technological advances just fuel the argument for removing end-to-end internet access, which is what the big boys are starting to push for.
Power to the people!!!
What I would like is someone to make a simple interface like media portal but for the internet.
Whatever the media application is playing, regardless of how it is playing it, it will send the image and sound data over the net to some application.
ALso allowing to change channels etc... essentially just a nice little web front end. I have a TV card at home and I want to view it over the internet. I figured out how to do it with windows media encoder but the process is a tad combersome.
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I think you'll find that it's good taste that prevents the UK from watching American football :). It's not a real sport if you have to stop for a rest every few seconds, and it must be a game for girly men if you need to wear armour! It's basically rubgy with padding and resting, isn't it?
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Amateur broadcasting of media... none of it matters until there's a good reason to do it. As for video blogging / vidcasting, the best reason to date is sending video messages to active soldiers serving overseas. All it takes is a webcam and 30 seconds to record, viewable around the world, independent of timezones, with software that's already available on 97% of computers anyway.
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(I appologise in advance for twisting your words around .. but I couldn't resist :-)
:D
"How can one get so emotionally attached to a sports team that they will get in mob fights with fans of another team? Granted it's usually a minority that partake in hooliganism, but it seems to happen fairly often (especially in Latin American countries); it almost never happens here in the states."
Substitute:
ideology for sports team
fans for citizens
team for country
hooliganism for war
And you get:
"How can one get so emotionally attached to an ideology that they will get in mob fights with citizens of another country? Granted it's usually a minority that partake in war, but it seems to happen fairly often (especially in Latin American countries); it almost never happens here in the states. "
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you find neoblogisms offensive?
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This type of thing may indeed be an issue, but I don't see what role Skype will play in it, given that it is not designed for one-many broadcasting.
This is not new, I did it nearly 10 years ago with an old tv tuner and windows netmeeting. I set the tuner to the capture card, sound to the input, and boom I could broadcast video.
I knew the good Commander had excellent taste...
Although the need to Skypecast for the last season won't be as great since the DVD box set is being released on R1 DVD format for USA/Canada on Valentine's Day. Although it'll clock in at $99 US MSRP.
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"MIT betrayed all of its basic principles."
The big, bad, evil Sony has something like that. And it even streams TV to those useless PSPs everyone seems to hate. Apparently, you can change the channel, and stream TV from anyone (not just your own device).
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
Beyond TV from www.snapstream.com is a media center application with a web interface. If you have a tuner card with a software encoder, it can stream video to Windows Media Player. The web interface allows you to change channels and even stream previously recorded content I believe.
I already have someone in Germany (I am in the US) watching ball games and other TV programs live from my computer using Orb
And yes, you can watch using linux...
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Isn't it like watching the video in a mirror due to the horizontal flipping iChat does? Did you find a way around this?
Fishing channel=Rodcasting
Fitness channel=Bodcasting
Religious channel=Godcasting
Grass channel=Sodcasting
Plumbing channel=Pipecasting
Dental channel=Bitecasting
really 867993
Karma schkarma
Psssst, yeah not like that ever happens in other cities: http://www.dailyfreepress.com/media/paper87/news/2 004/10/28/WorldSeriesChamps/Sox-Celebrations.Marre d-784768.shtml
And the link you supplied didn't occur anywhere near an actual Raiders game, just after one hundreds of miles away. But of course, all Raiders fans are raving lunatics and all slashdotters live in their mother's basements right?
FOOTBALL!
Remember kids, with great power comes great opportunity to abuse that power
Have you seen some of the ones coming from the Nordic countries????
:-)
I remember seeing one set in a male/female segregated sauna/steam room. Except some guy found a peep hole to the womens side. (Cue gratuitous nudity). But the matron on that side saw his eye through the hole. The next thing you know, all the guys are lined up parade style and the matron is walking up the line looking down at their groins (which are just out of camera view). Finally she gets to the culprit . He is standing there with a grin on his face, and protuding upwards at an angle from his groin is a newspaper that is obviously covering his huge erection.
The ad was for the newspaper. The tag line was - "For the paper that covers everything"
Love to see that at the Superbowl
BTW Speaking of the Superbowl and protecting the kiddies from things like Janets tit, why was nothing said about all those viagra (or cialis) advs that were on ALL the time. Surely explaining to a kid as to why a 4 hour erection needs medical attention is far worse that a fraction of a second of nudity.
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most Europeans are too snobby to watch our "football"
Why would they when they have Rugby Union?
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I've often wondered why the production companies don't market direct to a world wide audience. The technology is in place and there is an audience for the most minortity interest.
Your football is boring, and our Dr. Who is badly written childish tripe.
Oh come on, the current Dr. Who isn't childish.
http://www.screenhead.com/funny/internet-teevee/li ve-tv-through-bit-torrent-123287.php
PPlive and Sopcast.
I did this to watch the Calgary Flames play their way to the Stanley Cup final using iChat and a pair of iSights. I had recently move to San Diego and didn't have a television. My family back in Calgary put a laptop on a chair and aimed an iSight at the TV and I watched several games this way sitting on my patio - WiFi on both ends. Here's my record of the event
Ummm what country do you live in again? Violence related to sports happens all of the time in the US - especially if you have school rivalries involved. Having lived in VA and seen some UVA vs. Tech animosity and in SC and seen USC vs. Clemson nastiness (including the players ending up in brawls on the field after a game) I can attest to the fact. Heck, it even happened at my high school. Sports and civilized behavior don't seem to be very related to each other in any country I know about. Kind of makes you wonder the term sportsmanlike behavior came from...
POORLY written tripe...
Shit, you guys made the language, now show it!
I am unamerican, and proud of it!
Even easier would to buy one of these
http://www.slingmedia.com/
Recently it was reported in the local papers (Richmond, Va) that some Va high school district had banned shaking hands between teams after a match. It seems that there was all this spitting and bad mouthing and other animosity going on between teams.
So rather than force the good behaviour, they just let the bad behaviour go on reducing the interatcion.
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Any sufficiently advanced technology renders technical prowess from the era that brought it into being obsolete. (I'd get a lot more work done if it also neutralized bragging rights and uphill-through-the-snow stories.)
I fail to see why encryption provides significant anonymity for someone with this intention.
It seems nearly all forms of copyright infringement that the media companies pursue would not be affected by the type of encryption that Skype has. If packets were encrypted on BitTorrent or Kazaa, they would still be decrypted when an **AA agent connected to the network or uploading user. Since encryption would only prevent people from tapping the content, it wouldn't increase anonymity since content in the pipe isn't monitored by **AA. They just monitor what is available and then request that ISP provide personal info on the provider.
Is there something I'm missing?
Ok, you got me. I always forget about the bad stuff that goes on after NFL, NBA, and MLB championships. I guess because it only happens once a year. I can't believe I forgot about the fight between USC and Clemson, though. I was watching that when it happened! Anyway, nobody even attempted to refute my arguments; the best they could do was point out the stuff that goes on here. So I think my point still stands. Give me one instance of American fans attacking American players on the field at a major American sporting event and I will concede the argument. The Ron Artest incident doesn't count because he and some of his teammates instigated the whole thing by running up into the stands. I'm talking about fans coming down onto the field unprovoked. I will also forfiet my argument if you can give me one instance of a major American sporting event being played in an empty American stadium due to fan security reasons.
They need to get over it. Information wants to be freeeeeeeee!
---- Booth was a patriot ----
The biggest news here, IMHO, is that Skype proved that their technology is actually used mostly for "other things", very legitimate things, besides "piracy". So RIAA and friends can't shut it down because "it's used mostly for illegal activity" and will have to learn to live with it, which in turn might make them come to terms with digital distribution in general.
Must say I don't see the football angle here, since our TV system offers plenty of both kinds, domestic, british and american.
:-)
But what I see as more important in this regard is that we might finally get access to the sci-fi and fantasy that other civilized countries get. I grew up in the seventies when our socialist government decided that that kind of TV probably wasn't good for you, and it' kind of stuck ever since. So this kind of tech would enable us to finally get at things that we never see like Farscape, Dr. Who (the latest episodes with Chistopher Eccleston and Billie Piper are in the words of the doctor himself 'fantastic') and so on.
Now I don't want to infringe the copyrights of anybody here, but it seems that even though I pay my taxes etc etc. and everything else that goes towards financing TV around here I either get the choice for highbrow mumbo jumbo about allegedly serious issues, reruns of american sitcoms or whatever is the latest incarnation of the "survivor" franchise. So I really don't get why the content owners don't cash in on geeks like me - I'm sure we aren't a broad audience, but I'm pretty sure a lot of us would pay good cash to get what we want
Be alert, the world needs more lerts!
We are raving lunatics, but we chose our team and are happy to do our part =]
Simply because an application emerges does not mean that it represents an advancement. The ability to run digital signals to various devices over digital transmission media doesn't represent an advancement. I personally find it as interesting as installing Windows 3.1 on Dosbox on Linux on a PPC Mac. Which is, I think, interesting to some small degree, but not really progress.
So when do we get Skypeblogcasttoothing?
Your word of today was "predict"
What really amazes me is that every day, users are finding new ways to stream content over just about any protocol or program. And yet, these companies that are supposed to be shaking in their boots over lose of control over their programs are still working on streaming TV over the Internet. Sure, they are looking for a Pay-Per-View option, so as to not stream completely free, but I pose this to them.
Do: First, with commercial television, just stream it as is in very high quality (HD if available) over existing channels. I know they have local affiliate licensing issues, but they need to start new shows that are net-only. Try the ones that the networks won't pick up or aren't running anymore. AOL is doing exactly that, and all should follow suit.
Why: Because you make money on the advertising. If you restrict it to current channels, the redistributed pirated versions will strip away your advertising, and you gain nothing. The best way to compete with the pirates is to mimic their channels, but improve the service. Just look at Shoutcast TV. So many of those pirate channels are always maxed out. If you provide a 600Kbps+ streams that are always available and never full, nobody will bother with those cheap imitators. And guess what, your advertisers will LOVE you! Why? Because as a streamer, you have automatic statistics on how many viewers, time of day, and length of watching.
Do: Utilize a channel like Skype for your own pay-per-view/commercial-free television.
Why: Because you could set up your own payment scheme with Skype (who already has a system to pay for phone calls), and charge viewers just like a phone call. $1 per month per channel. That's competitive with cable television. I, for one, would gladly pay you to watch Discovery, Comedy Central (Daily Show/Colbert Report), History Channel, CNN, and Sci-Fi online anytime I want. Better yet, add $0.25 per channel for on demand show watching. As it is now, I've done away with a huge $30 a month package (rape) charged by my cable company. But, I and others are more than willing to pay for online a la carte programming.
So, you see, it's pretty simple really. They don't even have to restructure any of their operations, only the mode of transfer. Unfortunately, none of this will happen anytime soon. The grasp of the technology still escapes people who think that Survivor is quality programming, that Gigli was a brilliant idea for a movie, and that 14yr old girls who download Happy_Birthday.mp3 are the scourge of the music industry.
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Yeah, but its always niggers involved in the violence. ;)
No, it really is. It's fun, but the scripts seem to be written to a 12-16 year old audience.
Still, that's about average for mainstream TV. But compared to a current affairs analysis show, a good documentary or many films it's really simplistic.
If someone would do this with F1GP (from TV1) then those of us in Oz that are interested in Grand Prix could watch the GP's while they are on (rather than an hour or so after they are finished) and we wouldn't have to put up with the dumb monkeys that Channel 10 (our local F1GP broadcaster) force upon us. We wouldn't have to wait while the previous show ran over by half an hour, or watch the 20 minute intro that shows all the details of the last race we watched.
Whether it's been done before, I think it's a fantastic concept purely for getting rid of the dumb arse Aussie wannabe commentators. (Though Darryl Beattie using the word "Bestest" was amusing...)
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Substitute:
:D
/country /war
marshmallows for ideology
students for citizens
table for country
food fights for war
school cafeterias for Latin America
college for the states
And you get:
"How can one get so emotionally attached to a marshmallow that they will get in food fights with students of another table? Granted it's usually a minority that partake in food fights, but it seems to happen fairly often (especially in school cafeterias); it almost never happens here in college. "
Seriously, though:
Substitute:
religious belief for sports team / ideology
zealots for fans / citizens
denomonation for team
fanatacism for hooliganism
And you get:
"How can one get so emotionally attached to a religion that they will get in mob fights with zealots of another denomonation? Granted it's usually a minority that partake in war, but it seems to happen fairly often (derogatory mention of Latin America deleted); it almost never happens here in the states. "
Seriously, though.
A sports team is an object of strong societal emotional bonds because it is a representation of athletic values and achievements. A fan would hope that, his sports team is comprised of your best athletes. Because of the celebrity status accorded to those athletes, they are expected to also reflect important cultural norms. For many secularists, a sports team represents ideals that religious people would seek to find in their religious leaders / saints. Even when those players falter, the fans support and defend them, except in cases of egregious errors. The nation is, to erroneous citizens, and religion is, to zealots, "THE team"; they make excuses for many egregious stances taken by the nation / religion / ideology because the nation / religion / ideology must be right; forgetting that the only way the nation / religion / ideology can be right is to take correct stances.
Ideology is precisely what men act, live, kill, and die for, in almost all cases (barring the weather, tragic mishaps, and health causes). People do act according to their belief system; some have belief systems that allow for compromise in times of famine / danger / pleasure, and some do not. There are incorrect ideologies, and there are ideologies so dangerous that men must be killed if they are unwilling to abandon them. For instance, the ideology that women are worthy only to be raped and strangled, is one that must be supressed, even if it means killing off its most loyal adherents, and even if it is claimed as a religious belief. Likewise, the ideology that 1+1=76 is ludicrous in the common ordinal base-10 numbering system, and truly dangerous when taught to a first grader.
A religious belief is an ideology held to be given from God.
Fans are supporters of the team. Citizens are people with legal status in (and, some would hope, loyalty to) the nation. Zealots are people with loyalty to their God. The loyalty of each particular (citizen, fan, zealot) waxes and wanes and is variable between persons.
The highest intensity test of faithfulness for any citizen or zealot is, usually, whether they would forfeit their life in defense of their country / religion. Too often, pride, vanity, bravado intensify and misdirect people's feelings of faithfulness. This can lead to violence. Other times, men will die rather than give up false, dangerous beliefs. That's what capital punishment is for, and that is what just wars are about.
Denomonations can most easily be mapped to ideologies. That an ideology is called "Catholicism", "Luthranism", "Buddhism", "Paganism", or "Communism" doesn't necessarily make it less of an idealism. Certain parts of the ideology can be true or untrue, and there are certainly ideologies that have more truth than falsity, and vice versa. Ideologies must be examined and discarded when found to be false.
So far, Catholocism has been demonstrably true, though scientists attack it as not falsifiable. But that argument cannot be won by posting to slashdot.
Just because im french!!!
Bollockscasting
You can already watch American Football in the UK - Sky Sports shows live NFL every week...
A statistic I heard while watching ESPN one day said that on average, there is nine minutes of action in a baseball game.
How pathetic are you that you follow me from topic to topic and waste all your mod points at once modding me down?
I mean, you can do that with any pc that has a high speed net connection, a network card, and a $100 TV tuner card, and netmeeting / yahoo / aim(now) / or similar. I was doing this last year when I still deemed cable TV worth it to watch baseball and football games while in my college classes via yahoo...
Lexus is not German at all!
I answer this guy's question
and am a troll instead of informative?
Each of my answers can be easily checked and are right.
He asked, i answered.
His question were trolling and not the least insightful. Or did they make you think?
It is not insightful to think that the sports of Rugby has to do with a rug, or the sports of golf with a car brand
According to prophecy
How about we just agree that neither Raiders fans nor Arsenal fans are raving lunatic rioters, and there are bad eggs on both sides of the Atlantic who spoil it for everyone?
Go Raiders!.
(Oh, and for those of you who like Arsenal, Go Arsenal!.)
"MIT betrayed all of its basic principles."
Give the infants a break. It's where they go to get a drink. Us elders have to make to with beer joints. And memories.