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“Mopping Up can be a lot of fun. In the Mopping Up phase, Evangelism’s goal is to put the final nail into the competing technology’s coffin, and bury it in the burning depths of the earth. Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in, “he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2.” Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. Make the complete failure of the competition’s technology part of the mythology of the computer industry.” –James Plamondon, Microsoft

Sorry buddy. This revolution will not be stopped. Certainly not by the likes of Burson Marsteller and Waggener Edstrom.

Bonus quote, since I'm here:

“We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger.If you’re going to kill someone, there isn’t much reason to get all worked up about it and angry. You just pull the trigger. Any discussions beforehand are a waste of time. We need to smile at Novell while we pull the trigger.” –Jim Allchin, Microsoft’s Platform Group Vice President

Too late this time, buddy.

Actually, there was a bit more involved there.

In the early MySpace/gaming days, many of the social games gave you big advantages for having more friends than your opponents. Even now, games like Farmville are geared towards having a huge amount of friends to 'gift' you digital trinkets and perform menial digital tasks.

Also, the 'fake friends' and 'fake followers' used to be used for fake click-throughs, to up the amount of money ad advertiser would pay you for hosting an ad banner.

Nowadays, you get what you pay for. TFA's author likely paid on the low-end. If he wanted what folks like Microsoft get (see any CNET article comment section concerning Microsoft if you want examples), you gotta be prepared to open the checkbook...

When you stack the ducats high, you get top-end fake comments/reviews/whatever.

Microsoft uses Burson Marsteller and Wagener Edstrom for that.

http://www.burson-marsteller.com/default.aspx

http://waggeneredstrom.com/what-we-do/digital-influence-insights/

http://waggeneredstrom.com/what-we-do/clients/

Microsoft uses Burson Marsteller and Wagener Edstrom for that.

http://www.burson-marsteller.com/default.aspx

http://waggeneredstrom.com/what-we-do/digital-influence-insights/

http://waggeneredstrom.com/what-we-do/clients/

Hmm, I think you're being facetious, but I have to free with your statement. My android has multitouch, and my hp laptop has two-fingered scrolling. But they,re a disastrous implementation and thoroughly unpleasant to use. O the other hand, on the MacBooks and iPads, multitouch is so smooth it's practically minority report. In my opinion.

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Hmm, I think you're being facetious, but I have to free with your statement. My android has multitouch, and my hp laptop has two-fingered scrolling. But they,re a disastrous implementation and thoroughly unpleasant to use. O the other hand, on the MacBooks and iPads, multitouch is so smooth it's practically minority report. In my opinion.

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Hmm, I think you're being facetious, but I have to free with your statement. My android has multitouch, and my hp laptop has two-fingered scrolling. But they,re a disastrous implementation and thoroughly unpleasant to use. O the other hand, on the MacBooks and iPads, multitouch is so smooth it's practically minority report. In my opinion.

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oh yeah. i am so sick of this noh8rz douche. this is actually the *tenth* account since the original didn't have a number. i don't know which relationship management agency is paying this guy but i'd bet my bottom dollar it is waggener edstrom as this is their style to a t. notice microsoft and the bill gates foundation are their clients. anybody that falls for this guys shit reccomendations is as dumb as fuck

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Subtle? His username is a play on his employer's name.

Haha check out the name, a play on Waggener-Edstrom

...But Nokia's phones are fine. In fact, that new Lumia phone is pretty awesome. I used one for a few minutes and it makes my phone look junky.

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...But Nokia's phones are fine. In fact, that new Lumia phone is pretty awesome. I used one for a few minutes and it makes my phone look junky.

This comment was brought to you courtesy Waggener Edstrom, a Microsoft marketing partner.

We help clients understand who their audiences are and where they can be reached. Monitoring conversations, including those that take place with social media, is part of our daily routine; our products can be used as early warning systems, helping clients with rapid response and crisis management.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/how-we-do-it/

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...But Nokia's phones are fine. In fact, that new Lumia phone is pretty awesome. I used one for a few minutes and it makes my phone look junky.

This comment was brought to you courtesy Waggener Edstrom, a Microsoft marketing partner.

We help clients understand who their audiences are and where they can be reached. Monitoring conversations, including those that take place with social media, is part of our daily routine; our products can be used as early warning systems, helping clients with rapid response and crisis management.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/how-we-do-it/

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Also, you forgot to log in.

hi bonch,

on Slashdot, you don't have to log in. People who aren't shills don't care about karma.

Also, multiple +5s! It must be nice having so many sock puppets.

jo_ham/bonch is paid for by Waggener Edstrom to shill, FYI.

Does this answer your question? Spryguy has been at this game a long time.

CAPTCHA: circus...how appropriate.

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http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

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http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

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I hope so. I've got an Android phone and an iPhone and I have to say, I really do like the Windows Phone better than either. It's different, so you have to adjust a little, but it's really quite brilliant.

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I hope so. I've got an Android phone and an iPhone and I have to say, I really do like the Windows Phone better than either. It's different, so you have to adjust a little, but it's really quite brilliant.

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I hope so. I've got an Android phone and an iPhone and I have to say, I really do like the Windows Phone better than either. It's different, so you have to adjust a little, but it's really quite brilliant.

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You have absolutely no idea what you're writing, do you? I'm amazed this got upvoted 5 points and labelled Informative.

You're amazed that a first post paste job praising MS and disparaging their competitors got modded to +5 almost immediately on Slashdot? You haven't been paying attention.

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FTFY

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FTFY

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FTFY

Slashdot: where the truth and common sense is as welcome as the Ebola virus. You can think groups like this for thoroughly destroying a once halfway decent website.

And the system isn't being abused, it was designed this way.

It was designed to be manipulated by " rapid response" reputation management teams paid for by Microsoft? Are you sure?

Are you sure it didn't just evolve that way?

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And the system isn't being abused, it was designed this way.

It was designed to be manipulated by " rapid response" reputation management teams paid for by Microsoft? Are you sure?

Are you sure it didn't just evolve that way?

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Bonch is a pseudonym/sockpuppet used to astroturf slashdot with posts backing up Microsoft's policies and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

Here is a list of known MS shills on slashdot:

• DavidSell
• ByOhTek
• antitithenai
• Bonch
• TechGuys
• Overly Critical Guy
• CmdrPony
• InsightIn140Bytes
• InterestingFella
• SharkLaser
• DCTech
• smithz
• HankMoody

These accounts also engage in cooperative/supportive posts, to try to defend the karma hit that each account receives when their astroturfing covert efforts are blown.
See the followup posts to this message from a known MS shill, and check the replies which come out for support and try to counter avoi
d burning another account.

These accounts often post messages based on the the same script. For example, see this post from Overly Critical Guy and compare it to this post by bonch bonch.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

You would like that, wouldn't you? As your bonch account, along with other astroturfing accounts, are being exposed as paid MS shills.

Bonch is one of the many pseudonym/sockpuppet accounts employed to astroturf discussions pushing pro-MS opinions and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

Here is a list of known MS shills on slashdot:

• DavidSell
• ByOhTek
• antitithenai
• Bonch
• TechGuys
• Overly Critical Guy
• CmdrPony
• InsightIn140Bytes
• InterestingFella
• SharkLaser
• DCTech
• smithz
• HankMoody

These accounts also engage in cooperative/supportive posts, to try to defend the karma hit that each account receives when their astroturfing covert efforts are blown. See the followup posts to this message from a known MS shill, and check the replies which come out for support and try to counter avoid burning another account.

These accounts often post messages based on the the same script. For example, see this post from Overly Critical Guy and compare it to this post by bonch bonch.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

How can you disagree, if your salary comes from the same paysheet as theirs?

ByOhTek is a pseudonym/sockpuppet used by the Waggener Edstrom rapid response team employed by MS to astroturf discussions in favour of MS and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

Here is a list of known MS shill accounts on slashdot:

• DavidSell
• ByOhTek
• antitithenai
• Bonch
• TechGuys
• Overly Critical Guy
• CmdrPony
• InsightIn140Bytes
• InterestingFella
• SharkLaser
• DCTech
• smithz

These accounts also engage in cooperative/supportive posts, to try to defend the karma hit that each account receives when their astroturfing covert efforts are blown.
See the followup posts to this message from a known MS shill, and check the replies which come out for support and try to counter avoi
d burning another account.

These accounts often post messages based on the the same script. For example, see this post from Overly Critical Guy and compare it to this post by bonch bonch.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

Sure you do. You and all your astroturfing colleagues. I bet you share the same cubicle.

ByOhTek is a pseudonym/sockpuppet used by the Waggener Edstrom rapid response team employed by MS to astroturf discussions in favour of MS and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests. They also engage in cooperative/supportive posts, to try to defend the karma hit that each account receives when their astroturfing covert efforts are blown, just like this one.

Here is a list of known MS shills on slashdot:

• DavidSell
• ByOhTek
• antitithenai
• Bonch
• TechGuys
• Overly Critical Guy
• CmdrPony
• InsightIn140Bytes
• InterestingFella
• SharkLaser
• DCTech
• smithz

These accounts work as a team, and often post messages based on the the same script. For example, see this post from Overly Critical Guy and compare it to this post by bonch bonch.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

TechGuys is a pseudonym/sockpuppet used by the Waggener Edstrom rapid response team employed by MS to astroturf discussions in favour of MS and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

Here is a list of known MS shills on slashdot:

• DavidSell
• ByOhTek
• antitithenai
• Bonch
• TechGuys

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

DavidSell, ByOhTek, antitithenai, Bonch, Dtech and others are psuedonyms/sockpuppets used by the Waggener Edstrom rapid response team employed by MS to astroturf discussions in favour of MS and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

DavidSell, ByOhTek, antitithenai, Bonch, Dtech and others are psuedonyms/sockpuppets used by the Waggener Edstrom rapid response team employed by MS to astroturf discussions in favour of MS and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

DavidSell, ByOhTek, antitithenai, Bonch, Dtech and others are psuedonyms/sockpuppets used by astroturfers, such as Waggener Edstrom rapid response team, employed by MS to astroturf discussions in favour of MS and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

Mod accordingly

DavidSell, ByOhTek, antitithenai, Bonch, Dtech and others are psuedonyms/sockpuppets used by the Waggener Edstrom rapid response team employed by MS to astroturf discussions in favour of MS and to attack any point of view which isn't favourable to MS and supportive of their interests.

http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Mod accordingly

a) OP's points are still wrong. You don't need to lock the hardware to one OS in order to prevent malware. Car analogy? No problem: It's like saying that the tire rims must be welded onto the wheels in order to prevent tire slashing. The OS (tires) can still be compromised no matter what you do to the underlying hardware, so the whole argument becomes one great big false premise.

b) there's no way to tell for certain, but it does happen a lot: http://waggeneredstrom.com/clients

c) Dude did do it incompetently. He's not a subscriber, yet there's a whole novella waiting mere moments after the story is posted publicly. His posting history also shows an incredibly strong pro-Microsoft bias, even to the point of nonsense at times.

d) see c)

As for the rest? Certainly you don't need WHQL certification to run drivers on Windows - but Joe Public will see a buttload of bells and alarms warning him if he tries to install it.

There are no major security reasons for doing it - period. Once someone has physical access, it's game-over anyway - no matter how hard you think you can lock it down.

HTH a little. /P

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Microsoft are No 3 on their client list
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DavidSell ByOhTek antitithenai, Bonch, Dtech and others are psuedonyms/sockpuppets used by the team to "guide" discussions.

What they do is not secret: http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Monitoring conversations, including those that take place with social media, is part of our daily routine; our products can be used as early warning systems, helping clients with rapid response and crisis management.

Microsoft are No 3 on their client list
http://waggeneredstrom.com/clients

DavidSell ByOhTek antitithenai, Bonch, Dtech and others are psuedonyms/sockpuppets used by the team to "guide" discussions.

How's the Microsoft marketing account going? Looks like they're still paying well for all the "First Post" spots as well.

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Moderation and discussion will be directed to ensure a fair and balanced discussion of our client's activities. Thank you for participating.

Monitoring conversations, including those that take place with social media, is part of our daily routine; our products can be used as early warning systems, helping clients with rapid response and crisis management.

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http://waggeneredstrom.com/about/approach

Oh also do you work for Waggener Edstrom?