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Plus d'info en francais et sur le site de l'association FACIL, pour l'appropriation collective de l'informatique libre.

Yes, there may be more detail available in French, but the summary mentions a press release in English. A group of Quebecois put out a press release in English! Do ya think there's something wrong with this picture? I'm suspicious let me tell ya!

Plus d'info en francais et sur le site de l'association FACIL, pour l'appropriation collective de l'informatique libre.

I realize it's pretty late by slashdot standards to be commenting now, but, but, a GNU on top, and the large Open Source words at the bottom just makes me cringe ! I had to take this small snapshot of the cherryos website.

w3c even supports images in an xterm as seen in this debian screenshot.

Thanks for the source, I did the same thing on my end. See my Durl update for more info.

I'm still looking for the one ring to rule them all. Actually, Durl will probably turn into something like that, given enough time... see my Durl update for more info.

Good idea, I'm planning on implementing the same thing in the next little while... see Durl Update. Also note that del.icio.us will soon be provinding the RSS feed itself, so I have to think of more stuff for Durl ;)

I've been a strong advocate of the social bookmarking service named del.icio.us since it started (check here for an example). And almost every single day, a new tool appears and enhances the use of this service. This new one, DURL , written by Robin Millette , lets you type an URL and see if some other people already "delicious'ed it." And this is very efficient because it leads you to people who not only bookmarked the URL, but also assigned to it some pertinent keywords or tags, giving you new and fresh ideas. Services like Bloglines or Technorati among others certainly can return hundreds of links, so they are good for 'popularity contests.' But for building social communities and introducing you to sources you wouldn't have thought of, they don't compare to del.icio.us. Read more for lots of examples...

As I'm not sure if I convinced you, let's start with a real blog, Smart Mobs .

If I feed the URL http://www.smartmobs.com/ to Bloglines by submitting the search string "http://www.bloglines.com/citations?url=http://www .smartmobs.com/&submit=Search," I receive 3358 unsorted results.

If I do the same with Technorati , I find 1,614 links from 1,234 sources, sorted by date.

In both cases, this produces a number of references which is hard to browse. Why a particular site has quoted Smart Mobs? It's not obvious to find an answer.

So, it's time to use DURL, which returns a more manageable number of 45 results from del.icio.us.

http://www.primidi.com/images/durl_1.jpg

Here is a screen capture of the page returned by DURL. You can see that some people are reading Smart Mobs because they associated it with the concepts of "creativity" or "ubiquitous computing". Others are using tags such as "collaboration," "mobile" or "community." (Credit: Robin Millette/del.icio.us).

Let's check for example the tag "Social Software."

http://www.primidi.com/images/durl_2.jpg

It brings us to del.icio.us/hbryant/social_software . (Credit: del.icio.us). Wow! Exciting! New tools for del.icio.us! Let's visit Soooo del.icio.us people can't stand it! .

In a summary, with only two clicks, I found a gold mine. Do you know another service which is that efficient?

Now, let's return to the previous page and check the link to the "community" tag.

http://www.primidi.com/images/durl_3.jpg

This time, this leads us to del.icio.us/oubiwann/community . (Credit: del.icio.us). From there, I can now read a "definition of Mundialization" or discover what is the "World Government of World Citizens."

The more I use del.icio.us, the more I like it. This doesn't mean I'm not using Bloglines or Technorati, but I'm using them for 'exhaustivity,' not for 'discovery.'

[And here is an additional note for Robin Millette, the author of DURL. In fact, you can do the same search on del.icio.us by adding the string "http://del.icio.us/url?url=" (without the quotes) before the URL you want to see if it has been delicioused. But it might be too geeky for some of you.]

Source: Robin Millette, December 20, 2004; and various websites

I've been a strong advocate of the social bookmarking service named del.icio.us since it started (check here for an example). And almost every single day, a new tool appears and enhances the use of this service. This new one, DURL , written by Robin Millette , lets you type an URL and see if some other people already "delicious'ed it." And this is very efficient because it leads you to people who not only bookmarked the URL, but also assigned to it some pertinent keywords or tags, giving you new and fresh ideas. Services like Bloglines or Technorati among others certainly can return hundreds of links, so they are good for 'popularity contests.' But for building social communities and introducing you to sources you wouldn't have thought of, they don't compare to del.icio.us. Read more for lots of examples...

As I'm not sure if I convinced you, let's start with a real blog, Smart Mobs .

If I feed the URL http://www.smartmobs.com/ to Bloglines by submitting the search string "http://www.bloglines.com/citations?url=http://www .smartmobs.com/&submit=Search," I receive 3358 unsorted results.

If I do the same with Technorati , I find 1,614 links from 1,234 sources, sorted by date.

In both cases, this produces a number of references which is hard to browse. Why a particular site has quoted Smart Mobs? It's not obvious to find an answer.

So, it's time to use DURL, which returns a more manageable number of 45 results from del.icio.us.

http://www.primidi.com/images/durl_1.jpg

Here is a screen capture of the page returned by DURL. You can see that some people are reading Smart Mobs because they associated it with the concepts of "creativity" or "ubiquitous computing". Others are using tags such as "collaboration," "mobile" or "community." (Credit: Robin Millette/del.icio.us).

Let's check for example the tag "Social Software."

http://www.primidi.com/images/durl_2.jpg

It brings us to del.icio.us/hbryant/social_software . (Credit: del.icio.us). Wow! Exciting! New tools for del.icio.us! Let's visit Soooo del.icio.us people can't stand it! .

In a summary, with only two clicks, I found a gold mine. Do you know another service which is that efficient?

Now, let's return to the previous page and check the link to the "community" tag.

http://www.primidi.com/images/durl_3.jpg

This time, this leads us to del.icio.us/oubiwann/community . (Credit: del.icio.us). From there, I can now read a "definition of Mundialization" or discover what is the "World Government of World Citizens."

The more I use del.icio.us, the more I like it. This doesn't mean I'm not using Bloglines or Technorati, but I'm using them for 'exhaustivity,' not for 'discovery.'

[And here is an additional note for Robin Millette, the author of DURL. In fact, you can do the same search on del.icio.us by adding the string "http://del.icio.us/url?url=" (without the quotes) before the URL you want to see if it has been delicioused. But it might be too geeky for some of you.]

Source: Robin Millette, December 20, 2004; and various websites

When I saw this on Ars Technica yesterday, I was going to put another mark on my slashdot ESP - I was sure to see this come up. Oups, I forgot it in one of my 50 browsers now open...

"We want to be artist-friendly," says Steve Simon, a Clear Channel executive vice president.

Hmmm, crispy. I just hope not everyone will run away scared by this. The patent will hopefully be invalidated, or shown not to cover the whole process.

île sans fil from Montréal was at BSDCan too, and I heard it was great fun! Now if we could get a Linux Expo or something in Montreal, that would be great!

I'm not too surprised to see slashdot getting scooped. I even started a category on my weblog called Slashdot ESP, for my Extrasensory perception skills. Of course, this time I cheated a little since I submitted this story myself...

or pick it up tomorrow (Tuesday) in Montreal, Quebec:
ou venez le ramasser demain (Mardi) à Montréal, Québec:
http://www.waglo.com/nattor/

We're also working on a custom distro:
easyhotspot.waglo.com

I have kazaa data available. If you want more then a graphic or the last two months, let me know, I can provide you with almost 2 years of data.

Hi benwaggoner,

Not particularly responding to you, just looking for a branch to grow on. Now that that's established, I have a few complaints as well.

1. A zip so people don't stream it? You can do better then that!
2. 720 x 576? Was it really necessary to encode with these dimensions? It hardly plays on my 1GHz computer?
3. ...

Just too tired to think of anything else, and it's probably been mentionned before. But I had to say something after spending 5 hours downloading the movie, and another hour watch a 15-minute video. Yeah, I had to strip the audio out because it was unbearable, cut cut cutting all the time.

I finally ended up with the video muted, and lagging since it was too close to 100% cpu usage, and foobar2000 playing the audio in parallel, which I had to repeatedly pause to get any sort of sync.

Good news is I have an ogg file available. It's 16 MiB, and doesn't stutter :)

Like the suject says, OpenCD v1.2, 5$ my mail anywhere in Canada.

Nattor, the Little CD Vendor catalog

In case it gets slashdotted: mirror

Here's an ogg format of the sound file:
http://tools.waglo.com/bigbang.ogg

I'm still finishing the catalog, which should be online by tomorrow. In the meanwhile, there's a form you can complete to send in your order. That url defaults to the knoppix deal, but you can order anything from there.

If you want to see the work in progress, email me.

Here's another torrent link...

If you don't have access to a good pipe, you can always order it from Nattor the Little CD Vendor:
http://www.waglo.com/nattor/

P.S.: don't complain that my sig is redundant - someone probably has them turned off. Thanks :)

Jugding by the stats I keep on kazaa, I don't see this phenomenon fading anytime soon.

Actually, you mean http://textbook.wikipedia.org/ I think. I'm writing a similar software... right now it's handling a pool hall, but it's very flexible. I'll try and get back to Brian when I've got something more definitive to his domain.

Another important question: where can we see some data one p2p usage? For different networks, etc. I tried to find something like the plots I have, but never found anything. And when I offered my data, over a years worth, I never got a reply.

Is the simple answer that there is no demand for such information?

According to the logs I keep of kazaa's traffic, usage has declined by something like 2%... Maybe I'm not getting the whole picture. The way I sample the data to make the pretty plot is simply by reading from my kazaalite client's status bar, and logging those numbers (users, files, GiB) to a text file which I massage with php+gd every once in a while.

Let me know if you need more data, I have over a years worth.

not sure which image you got. I was able to download the 4.2 GiB file and converted that to a mpeg4 (overkill, but I don't have anything to mess with gifs, I just recorded a "playback"). I've put the 400 KiB result here, if anyone is interested: http://tools.waglo.com:8888/codered.wmv if anyone is interested. Oh, you're gonna have to right-click, shift-click, whatever you have to do to download it. Like I said, it's just a quick and dirty job, and I'm not gonna leave it up longer then I have too.

http://tools.waglo.com:8888/codered.wmv for a quick and dirty conversion. I think it's mpeg4 now - did it with windows media encoder. Let me know how well it works. You might have to right-click, shift-click, wait-click to get the video instead of binary goo in your browser. Like I said, it's a quick and dirty convertion. Oh, and it's 400k, little more manageable. I'm only going to leave it temporarely up though.

http://tools.waglo.com:8888/kazaa.php

Get the source from here if the original link is too slow:
http://mirrors.waglo.com/slashdotted/nethack-340.t ar.bz2

Here's a temporary mirror due to ./ing:
http://mirrors.waglo.com/slashdotted/www.heatseeke rz.net/
I'm still building it...

"...Sometimes we need to help the less-knowledgable understand that sometimes it isn't worth the trouble to hang onto these old computers..." "...I can't think of how many times we have had to explain to the administration around here that those old computers just weren't worth it, and that we couldn't make them good for anything..."

I had to reply to this one, although I'm a little late in the conversation. Blame it on my current computer, a vintage pentium 75 (oc to 90Mhz, thank you very much). No, actually, blame it on my current schedule, because this computer is just fine.

When I bought it, back in 95, it came with a mail-in coupon to get a Windows 95 CD. Today, I'm running the last version released/patched. Of course, I had the insight of buying more memory back then, upgrading from the default 8MB to 24MB. And it runs rather smoothly.

Of course, I prefer Opera to MSIE when it comes to browsing. I even used to surf with any graphics, but that was with my 56k modem. Now with a 900Mb dsl connection, I can watch all the pretty pictures (yet I still disable animations, but that's just me.).

I use the Bat for email, never had much luck with Outlook personally. I also develop a bit, but I use gcc or bc5.5 for my c++ needs. I also have a tiny spreadsheet program, always come in handy. Oh, I also happen to run litestep for my shell (see my current desktop), instead of the usual Explorer shell.

I'm not going to enumerate all the software I use (Paint Shop Pro 7 works, a little slow, but no trashing), I'm only going to add this: Apache/Perl.

(This scream *n*x or *bsd, I know, I'm just comfortable with this setup right now, and it can even stay up for a week at a time.) I got a domain a little while ago, and now hosting a bunch of sites, like rymmarks, my bookmark search engine (I have > 14000 bookmarks).

Anyhow, my point is that old computers still work. It's a myth that a computer decreases is usefullnes. How can anybody not see thru this consumer hoax? If you can find the old software for your old machine, you should be just as happy as anyone else running the latest Word version.

And you know what? This is where the spirit of free software really shines - it makes it harder, I mean impossible, to call a computer obselete when it's running the software it was meant to be.

"...Sometimes we need to help the less-knowledgable understand that sometimes it isn't worth the trouble to hang onto these old computers..." "...I can't think of how many times we have had to explain to the administration around here that those old computers just weren't worth it, and that we couldn't make them good for anything..."

I had to reply to this one, although I'm a little late in the conversation. Blame it on my current computer, a vintage pentium 75 (oc to 90Mhz, thank you very much). No, actually, blame it on my current schedule, because this computer is just fine.

When I bought it, back in 95, it came with a mail-in coupon to get a Windows 95 CD. Today, I'm running the last version released/patched. Of course, I had the insight of buying more memory back then, upgrading from the default 8MB to 24MB. And it runs rather smoothly.

Of course, I prefer Opera to MSIE when it comes to browsing. I even used to surf with any graphics, but that was with my 56k modem. Now with a 900Mb dsl connection, I can watch all the pretty pictures (yet I still disable animations, but that's just me.).

I use the Bat for email, never had much luck with Outlook personally. I also develop a bit, but I use gcc or bc5.5 for my c++ needs. I also have a tiny spreadsheet program, always come in handy. Oh, I also happen to run litestep for my shell (see my current desktop), instead of the usual Explorer shell.

I'm not going to enumerate all the software I use (Paint Shop Pro 7 works, a little slow, but no trashing), I'm only going to add this: Apache/Perl.

(This scream *n*x or *bsd, I know, I'm just comfortable with this setup right now, and it can even stay up for a week at a time.) I got a domain a little while ago, and now hosting a bunch of sites, like rymmarks, my bookmark search engine (I have > 14000 bookmarks).

Anyhow, my point is that old computers still work. It's a myth that a computer decreases is usefullnes. How can anybody not see thru this consumer hoax? If you can find the old software for your old machine, you should be just as happy as anyone else running the latest Word version.

And you know what? This is where the spirit of free software really shines - it makes it harder, I mean impossible, to call a computer obselete when it's running the software it was meant to be.

"...Sometimes we need to help the less-knowledgable understand that sometimes it isn't worth the trouble to hang onto these old computers..." "...I can't think of how many times we have had to explain to the administration around here that those old computers just weren't worth it, and that we couldn't make them good for anything..."

I had to reply to this one, although I'm a little late in the conversation. Blame it on my current computer, a vintage pentium 75 (oc to 90Mhz, thank you very much). No, actually, blame it on my current schedule, because this computer is just fine.

When I bought it, back in 95, it came with a mail-in coupon to get a Windows 95 CD. Today, I'm running the last version released/patched. Of course, I had the insight of buying more memory back then, upgrading from the default 8MB to 24MB. And it runs rather smoothly.

Of course, I prefer Opera to MSIE when it comes to browsing. I even used to surf with any graphics, but that was with my 56k modem. Now with a 900Mb dsl connection, I can watch all the pretty pictures (yet I still disable animations, but that's just me.).

I use the Bat for email, never had much luck with Outlook personally. I also develop a bit, but I use gcc or bc5.5 for my c++ needs. I also have a tiny spreadsheet program, always come in handy. Oh, I also happen to run litestep for my shell (see my current desktop), instead of the usual Explorer shell.

I'm not going to enumerate all the software I use (Paint Shop Pro 7 works, a little slow, but no trashing), I'm only going to add this: Apache/Perl.

(This scream *n*x or *bsd, I know, I'm just comfortable with this setup right now, and it can even stay up for a week at a time.) I got a domain a little while ago, and now hosting a bunch of sites, like rymmarks, my bookmark search engine (I have > 14000 bookmarks).

Anyhow, my point is that old computers still work. It's a myth that a computer decreases is usefullnes. How can anybody not see thru this consumer hoax? If you can find the old software for your old machine, you should be just as happy as anyone else running the latest Word version.

And you know what? This is where the spirit of free software really shines - it makes it harder, I mean impossible, to call a computer obselete when it's running the software it was meant to be.

It took me a while to get to their site, so here's a little mirror to the news release and a bit more, but no downloadable iso from me, sorry.

• http://mirrors.waglo.com/www.progeny.com/

The Binary Freedom database seem to have trouble handling yours truly load, so here's the complimentary mirror, brought to you by Waglo Labs.