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I like candidate Obama a LOT more than President Obama. Oh well, at least he'll be campaigning for the year now.

It's called the "bully pulpit". The President drives the discussion by TALKING ABOUT IT. What the President says gets media coverage. Particularly if it's about jobs and the economy and innovation now.

By the way, didn't you guys introduce a jobs bill of some kind? So there is a means for you to get legislation started.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/American_Jobs_Act

ORLY

Give me a nuke any day.

My friend, meet Mr. OTP.

I'm curious why blood tests aren't peformed regularly. You can certainly request Alpha-fetoprotein (AFP) any time you like, but it is not commonly recommended on a regular basis. AFP can indicate tumors growing in the body. Very high levels of AFP can indicate advanced cancer. In the case of a co-worker who was found to have advanced cancer, on first diagnosis, why not have this marker checked every 6 months?

I've been told a normal reading is about 100-120. Values over 10,000 should be investigated. Lance Armstrong, had levels of over 100,000 when he was diagnosed, with tumors spread throughout his body.

It seems a low impact test, why is it not advised as part of a standard checkup? We'll look for chelesterol, why not Alpha-fetoprotein?

Because, AFP is a crummy screening test.

We look for cholesterol because heart disease is one of the major killers of society. Testicular cancer isn't. It is also not terribly sensitive, not very specific and it isn't clear that early treatment helps. You need various qualities of all three aspects for something to be a good screening test.

Another link by way of Lance Armstrong, the blood doping tests for athletes now are sophisticated enough to establish a Base Line for certain concentrations of hormones, red count, etc. Catching a tumor on the first blood test is probably not good, but establishing norms for an individual can help identify when something is happening, by looking for spikes or dips in readings.

See Chapter 11.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Chapter_11,_Title_11,_United_States_Code

You are thinking of Chapter 7 bankruptcies, which are liquidations. A chapter 11 bankruptcy can include discharge of debt via re-writing contracts, for example.

I'm curious why blood tests aren't peformed regularly. You can certainly request Alpha-fetoprotein (AFP) any time you like, but it is not commonly recommended on a regular basis. AFP can indicate tumors growing in the body. Very high levels of AFP can indicate advanced cancer. In the case of a co-worker who was found to have advanced cancer, on first diagnosis, why not have this marker checked every 6 months?

I've been told a normal reading is about 100-120. Values over 10,000 should be investigated. Lance Armstrong, had levels of over 100,000 when he was diagnosed, with tumors spread throughout his body.

It seems a low impact test, why is it not advised as part of a standard checkup? We'll look for chelesterol, why not Alpha-fetoprotein?

Because, AFP is a crummy screening test.

We look for cholesterol because heart disease is one of the major killers of society. Testicular cancer isn't. It is also not terribly sensitive, not very specific and it isn't clear that early treatment helps. You need various qualities of all three aspects for something to be a good screening test.

Yep, because the food industry sells MREs primarily to the public.

Nice straw man. That's not really an issue in the current world.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/France_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9com#Staff_suicides

Nice straw man. That's not really an issue in the current world.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/France_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9com#Staff_suicides

Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly there. That's the big difference. They're competing mainly with Apple/Google, and I think they can take them on.

You might be right, but Apple has proved to be as unscrupulous as Microsoft. Expect all the ridiculous patents (e.g looks like a tablet) that they have used against Android to be used against Ubuntu.

Do you think we can let this meme just drop off into the sludge pit of dumb rants? Apple is going after Samsung using design patents this is a slightly different concept that the 'standard' patent for an 'invention'. The Apple / Samsung case is about quite a bit more than a rounded rectangle. It IS a dumb thing, rather like Pepsi making a glass bottle that looked like the canonical (and patented) Coke Bottle but with sharper flutes or whatever but Apple DIDN'T patent rounded rectangles. Apple didn't patent tablets.

Channel your AppleHate(TM) somewhere else. /end rant

I completely failed to grasp the parent's nonsense, which you repeat here.

Please show a reputable source that confirms that a bank may issue a loan for $100 backed by a $10 deposit.

While you search for your reference, you can look at mine:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Modern_Money_Mechanics.pdf
(page 6 to 11 explains the expansion process)

Instead of watching the video, look at the wiki page, and its references. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fractional_reserve_banking#Money_creation

I've watched the video before, and it doesn't get the details right. Besides, it doesn't give you any references, so it's worthless as an argument.

The effect in the end is similar: money is created. The only difference is that the video makes you think the banks don't have any risk, and take all the profits, which simply isn't true. Banks suffer the consequences just as badly.

This is because they are allowed to loan out 9x more money than they take in from people making deposits.

You completely misunderstand the fractional reserve banking system. Go read it again: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fractional_reserve_banking

You'll read that banks can only loan out 90% of the money they take in. However, that 90% will at some point in the future be deposited, so the banks can loan 90% of that money out again. In the end, this results in a 9x money multiplier, but every dollar that the bank loaned out is covered by a deposit.

Fractional reserve banking brings additional money in circulation by borrowing. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fractional_reserve_banking

Paying off the debt takes that money out of circulation again. As a consequence the money that's left over will become more valuable, and prices will drop. This could result in a deflationary spiral according to many economists.

Please don't be surprised if I pull out my computer at dinner and
begin handling some of my email. I have difficulty hearing when there
is noise; at dinner, when people are speaking to each other, I usually
cannot hear their words.

Hearing difficulty of this sort is actually quite common, Wikipedia even has a page on "King-Kopetzky syndrome" which seems to describe it perfectly.

Yea, no fun indeed: Caffeine Intoxication

Oo, rhabdomyolysis! What joy! Nothing quite like pissing your muscles away -- quite literally... Well, at least until the proteins block up your kidneys. :-P

Cheers,

Yea, no fun indeed: Caffeine Intoxication

Oo, rhabdomyolysis! What joy! Nothing quite like pissing your muscles away -- quite literally... Well, at least until the proteins block up your kidneys. :-P

Cheers,

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Steorn yet.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Steorn

http://slashdot.org/story/06/08/21/173253/irish-company-claims-free-energy
http://science.slashdot.org/story/07/07/04/1628259/perpetual-energy-machine-getting-lots-of-attention
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/06/24/149247/steorns-free-energy-jury-comes-back-to-bite-them

Anyone taking the eCat too seriously should read a copy of Voodoo Science
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Voodoo_Science

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Steorn yet.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Steorn

http://slashdot.org/story/06/08/21/173253/irish-company-claims-free-energy
http://science.slashdot.org/story/07/07/04/1628259/perpetual-energy-machine-getting-lots-of-attention
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/06/24/149247/steorns-free-energy-jury-comes-back-to-bite-them

Anyone taking the eCat too seriously should read a copy of Voodoo Science
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Voodoo_Science

Yea, no fun indeed: Caffeine Intoxication

This is pretty far removed from the Land of the Brave I pledged allegiance to in gradeschool

You pledged allegiance to a flag, actually. What most people do not know is that the original solute during the pledge was to extend your right hand, like these children (note that this was taken in 1941):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg

Here is one of my bi-annual posts reminding all about Thomas Gold's theory about the abiological origin of natural gas, oil and/or coal (which we call "fossil" fuels, perhaps erroneously). He published a book about this: The Deep Hot Biosphere

One part of this theory has apparently become commonly accepted: "extremophiles" extend deep throughout the earth's crust. Cosmic hydrocarbons had already been observed in nebula, this new result appears to be another pointer in the same direction.

There's a certain kind of conservative that likes this theory-- see, we're not Running Out of Oil! The peakies are wrong!-- but there's no particular reason this would be good news for environmentalists. There may be enough hydrocarbons in the crust to completely combine with all the earth's oxygen...

there's no reason a paper shouldn't pass peer review

Right.
"Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity"

First of all, partial quoting out of context is an evil practice that would not pass code review. Let me provide the full quote (emphasis mine):
If there's anything to the claims, and if the writer isn't completely incompetent explaining them, there's no reason a paper shouldn't pass peer review.

Now, addressing Sokal's hoax, allow me to quote selected text from wikipedia:

In 1996, Sokal submitted an article to Social Text, an academic journal of postmodern cultural studies. [...] At that time, the journal did not practice academic peer review and did not submit the article for outside expert review by a physicist.

Because MS will use the default nature of their browser on their 90% market share to push users to their web portal (bing)

IE does this already, and it doesn't seem to be doing much to eat away at Google's usage share. At any rate, why not complain that Firefox is pushing Google as the default search engine, maintaining Google's enormous usage share of search engine traffic? Google could use the competition, and nothing stops users from entering "google.com" in the browser, as I imagine the tech illiterate were doing all along.

Because the vast majority of users don't know there is a choice, they will effectively be rendered into using MS other service offerings artificially.

Um, no. This isn't 2001. IE usage share is dying, and fast. Everyone but the most tech illiterate at least knows about Firefox and Chrome, and more than likely knows someone who is using either browser, if they aren't themselves. All the while IE still came preinstalled with each copy of Windows, just as it had since 1996, and Windows usage share hasn't changed enough in the last decade to attribute this to more OS diversity. At this stage, you have people using IE either because they don't care what browser they use, actually prefer IE, or are forced to use IE because of corporate intranet or specific Web site issues. Only the last one concerns me, as it artificially forces a choice of Web browser.

This will make it artificially easier for MS to compete in areas outside of their core in spite of any quality failings of these other products. In short it allows MS to compete effectively even if their product offering is vastly inferior to the competition.

IE9 is actually a really good Web browser, far better than the previous IEs. I have no reason to believe that IE10 won't be equally as good. Microsoft's IE team actually seems to care now about making a decent Web browser, since they know that they can't just ignore IE anymore in the face of Firefox and Chrome competition, despite IE's continued status as the default Web browser (see above).

Thus MS can basically avoid any standardization, provide a crappy product and still drive their competition out of business, all without having to invest any significant capital in R&D. In short, in the end it is all the things that antitrust was designed to prevent because it is the consumers who ultimately get hosed.

Microsoft tried this, and it worked for a few years. Then Firefox came and crushed them. Now Chrome is crushing Firefox and IE. All the while regulatory bodies were nowhere to be seen. Microsoft's own incompetence did them in.

Also, in retrospect, IE was Microsoft's only real bundling success with Windows. Let's look at what else they've thrown in:

• Windows Media Player: had a good run, but it's lack of MP3 support for years made it lose out to Winamp, and later iTunes.

• Windows Messenger: AHAHAHAHAHA

• Outlook Express/Windows Mail: I don't have any real stats here, but from my observations most people with a real need for a mail client usually turn to the full version of Outlook first. Everyone else uses a webmail service of some sort. In any case this isn't even part of Windows anymore.

• Windows Movie Maker: Fair enough, this one did really well with amateur YouTubers. If anyone else used it, I haven't noticed. This one is also no longer included with Windows.

If this were 10 years ago, when IE ruled the land and locked everyone in with no hope of an end in sight, I would have agreed with you. But times have changed, and IE has been dethroned. Not even Microsoft's old tricks are going to get it back to 90+% usage share again.

3. I have heard that drowning is one of the more pleasant ways to day.

It's not. It triggers the lower brain to cause a panic. Basically you'll be scared shitless during your last moments of consciousness.

2. Radiation poisoning while attempting to build your own nuclear fission reactor.

Cherenkov radiation. Also, you wouldn't see this unless you were also underwater. The flashing you've heard of was because of interactions in the eye's aqueous humor and/or interactions in your visual cortex.

1.... When your bottled oxygen ran out I am guessing you would asphyxiate in the near vacuum nearly 4 times higher than Mount Everest.

Yea, no thanks. Asphyxiation by that cause is just as unpleasant as CO2. That's what makes suffocation suck so much... the CO2 builds up because you can't get rid of it. That's why your Nitrogen idea works - you just lose consciousness because you still exchange out the waste gasses.

It's odd. You seem to know of a lot of interesting things, yet lack or have completely wrong the details.

Stardust is exactly right. Most of the heavy elements (non-hydrogen or helium) were produced, if not by the mechanism described in the article, in the death throes of heavy stars that go supernova. All the Big Bang gave us was a lot of hydrogen, a small amount of helium, and a negligible quantity of everything else. The rest had to wait for the stars and stellar nucleosynthesis to be produced.

while only a war game outcome: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

If you have line of sight and enough clear space to not obstruct the Fresnel zone, 2.4GHz works like a charm. WISPs use it all the time with consumer-grade hardware.

I had a 7 mile link for a couple years in order to access the internet, using a high-gain directional antenna and a WRT54G router.

You don't think the government satellites don't have that type of imagery yet?

Nope. Do the math, the resolving power dR of an optically perfect instrument of diameter D and focal length L using light of wavelength W at working distance equal to focal length is given by:
dR=1.22 W L/D
So for a really thick pube of diameter 0.1mm, using blue light of wavelength 0.0004mm, the L/D must not exceed 204. For low orbit, L is at least 50 kilometers, which suggests D must be at least 250 meters. The larger spy satellites have imperfect mirrors of only 2 or 3 meters, so good luck with scaling their diameters up by two orders of magnitude (i.e. 4 orders of magnitude in area for a simple scaling).

Google Earth scares the shit out of me b/c I cannot imagine WTF the government has with their technology.

You're probably thinking of the aerial photography by USGS and others. Not satellite imagery. It's good, but more than an order of magnitude away from resolving a pube, however.

Don't retreat! Let's just advance to the rear in the American way...

After they're caught, it's very rare for these guys to repeat offend.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sex_offender#Recidivism_rates

Treatment works for these guys.

Thanks for the cite. Here's what they say:

Approximately 4,300 child molesters were released from prisons in 15 States in 1994. An estimated 3.3% of these 4,300 were rearrested for another sex crime against a child within 3 years of release from prison.

That's about what I thought it was. With numbers like that, I don't think it's a good social policy to release "child molesters" into the general population.

If I could release 30 child molesters, and I knew that 29 of them would become law-abiding citizens, and one would molest another child, I'd be reluctant to releases them.

Of course, American prisons are dungeons that create more crime. I think it's an illness and they should be treated like patients, in a humane, least restrictive environment. All I want is for dangerous people to be kept kept where they won't hurt anybody else. If they want to go on supervised trips to the zoo like John Hinkley, let them go.

This is assuming that they really *are* child molesters, and not adults with 16-year-old girlfriends. (The age of consent is 16 in the UK, so why is it a crime here?)

The American Academy of Pediatrics has a different take. They define "sexual abuse," which requires that the abuser be at least 4 years older than the abused, as I recall.

I think the doctors should take the lead in this, not prosecutors. 30-second election spots on TV are not a good way to make social policy.

What about Phillip Craig Garrido, who kidnapped Jaycee Lee Dugard and kept her in an encampment behind his house for 18 years, while she had 2 children by him?

Garrido had been arrested in 1976 for a kidnap and rape of an adult woman, who might have been killed if he hadn't been caught by a cop who noticed something wrong. He was sentenced to 50 years, but released on parole after 10 years.

I think that someone who commits a stranger rape, or a rape with kidnapping, *should* be put away essentially forever. I don't think a 1% recidivism rate in those cases is acceptable.

What we actually did was define sex crimes with minors and other consentual sex as rape, and fill the jails with people who weren't dangerous (along with non-dangerous drug offenders and other nonviolent crimes).

Every academic criminologist says that you have to separate the dangerous offenders who should be in jail from the non-dangerous offenders who shouldn't be. That's the way to deal with it.

After they're caught, it's very rare for these guys to repeat offend.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sex_offender#Recidivism_rates

Treatment works for these guys. You're far more likely to be molested by someone who's never been caught and thus never gotten treatment. If authorities want to spend money on this with an aim towards helping people, they should make sure that kids know what to do, that parents know what to do, that law enforcement knows what to do, such that the first crime leads to treatment.

But that's not what this game is about. It's not really about protecting the children. It's about scapegoats.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/LLNL_US_Energy_Flow_2009.png

Notice how amount of oil used to make electricity is NEGLIGIBLE compared to either the total amount of energy used to make electricity or the total amount of oil used. Electricity comes mostly from natural gas, coal, nuclear and hydro (in that order).

count - Duku: 1, Centrifuges: 0.

You mean Count Dooku? That guy whot fought Yoda?

To The US Patent Office

And lack of https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Social_mobility

I wanted to wait until his next biography to find out if Zombie_Jobs rises again.

...it's been more than three days.

We need to wait 75 years for someone to promulgate a resurrection + subsequent disappearance/ascension myth. Maybe a little longer, given current lifespans. Preferably, the promulgator will be someone with admin access to archive.org in order to "tweak"/"harmonize" historical accounts. The promulgator can also publish three different accounts under different pseudonyms to give the appearance of corroboration of the "historical" account.

4 bonus internets if the promulgator can integrate parthenogenesis somehow producing a male Jobschrist.

I think you have underestimated the power of really big bombs. The Tsar bomba was rated at about 50MT when detonated, though there seems little debate that it would have reached its design yield of 100Mt if a uranium casing had been used rather than lead.

Anyway, taking into account the latent heat of vapuorisation of water, my back of the envelope calculation shows that it could vapourise a non trivial fraction (0.125) of a cubic kilometer of water. While that will return to the ocean eventually, on the timescale of a tsunami, it is effectively removed permenantly.

Also, according to wikipedia, 50Mt was about 1/4 of the estimated yield of the Krakatoa eruption which certainly caused decent sized tsunamis. The cause of the tsunamis seems to have been the volcano dumpig a lot of stuff into the sea. With a 50Mt blast in th eright place, one may be able to replicate a similar effect, magnifying the ability to generate a tsunami well beyond vapourising a lot of water.

Apparently a Saturn V rocket could deliver a 700 megaton warhead, that would obviously be overkill if a single 9 megaton warhead would be enough to destroy a single city. This gives me some hope that more nations will disassemble their weapons and find something more constructive to do with their nuclear material. The 1.3 Gigaton warhead mentioned on that page that the Antonov could theoretically carry would seem to have no real use apart from maybe deflecting an asteroid if we could get it into space that is.

That that's not even taking into consideration people born crippled or retarded.....nature really started them with a disadvantage that has nothing to do with modern society.

Exactly. Kurt Vonnegut was already there back in 1961 when he wrote Harrison Bergeron. People need to stop focusing on the shortcomings of a few and focus on encouraging the elite to advance humanity. True "equality" can only be achieved by dragging the superior down to degeneracy/mediocrity.

There's a kid in my son's first grade class with a liver transplant, and is hence on immunosupressive drugs. Vaccinating my kids helps protect that kid's life. Same principle with all vaccines.

I am not a doctor. My guess is that urine keeps the penis cleaner than the cervix. Are there any doctors who can comment on my guess?

I will avoid making snarky comments about your elimination habits (although it is rather tempting).....

The Standard Model of cervical cancer (I made the term up, we don't call it that) goes like this:

The cervix has two different types of epithelial (skin) cells. The area where these two types intersect (called the 'transitional zone) is a region of high cell turnover - cells are dying and being replaced, lots of chemical and genetic activity. This makes it an ideal place for the HPV virus to switch cell growth from normal to abnormal. So even though you can get HPV infections in other parts of the cervix / vagina / anus / penis it is the activity in the transitional zone that cause problems.

Males don't have a cervix (no, don't go there, this is a quality, family oriented web site), no transition zone. LESS (not zero) cancers.

Most HPV induced cancers in males are found in the anal regions where again, cell division and turnover are relatively high. HPV associated cancers in the mouth and throat are rarer still, but they do happen.

The major thrust (so to speak) for immunizing males is that they are typically 50% of the sexually active couple (more or less) and decreasing the amount of viral load will lead to a decrease in infections which will lead to a decrease in HPV associated disease.

Funny thing is, the N64 actually had a RAM upgrade that many games could use... or even require.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Expansion_Pak

Why don't the PS3 and 360 have something similar? Because they could certainly use it.

Even a bump to 1GB would be very useful.

The N64 had a grand total of 3 games that required it, made by a total of two companies: Rare's Donkey Kong 64 (bundled with the unit) and Perfect Dark; and Nintendo's The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask.

Every other game there would get minor upgrades by having the memory pack.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Peter_Principle says it is opposite

Funny thing is, the N64 actually had a RAM upgrade that many games could use... or even require.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Expansion_Pak

Why don't the PS3 and 360 have something similar? Because they could certainly use it.

Even a bump to 1GB would be very useful.

With all the resurgence of hysteria due to 2012 as well as recent major earthquakes, pseudo-scientific explanations to otherwise natural phenomena are becoming the norm of the day.

One of the ones I've seen more lately are two:

1) The Schumman Resonance, commonly distorted to explain the upcoming "elevation of frequency" or the Earth entering into an "electromagnetic null zone" whatever that means.

2) The HAARP as a weapon to produce and trigger earthquakes.

If you could give us a set of precise and concise good shot answers that could help debunk those myths for the layman, it would greatly help to try to make people think more critically for a change... Thanks!

With all the resurgence of hysteria due to 2012 as well as recent major earthquakes, pseudo-scientific explanations to otherwise natural phenomena are becoming the norm of the day.

One of the ones I've seen more lately are two:

1) The Schumman Resonance, commonly distorted to explain the upcoming "elevation of frequency" or the Earth entering into an "electromagnetic null zone" whatever that means.

2) The HAARP as a weapon to produce and trigger earthquakes.

If you could give us a set of precise and concise good shot answers that could help debunk those myths for the layman, it would greatly help to try to make people think more critically for a change... Thanks!

Was his plan for the Human Colonization and Exploitation of Space https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/The_High_Frontier:_Human_Colonies_in_Space a realistic one, given the new things we've learned in various fields of research over the last 50 years?

Has anyone come up with a better long term plan for either Colonization or Exploitation?

a) For life learning - GO AWAY TO SCHOOL.
b) Apply to all the top 10 Aerospace Engineering Schools - PERIOD.
c) Go to which ever one give you the best scholarship.
d) Look at where the people working in those companies went to school - you really want to go to that short list of institutions.

That means you need to consider Standford, GA-Tech, UT-Austin, and a few others not in your 5 hr drive radius.

I worked at NASA-JSC as a contractor for about 8 yrs. A few of my friends still work there and a few others have migrated to oceanographic and private space sector companies. Whatever that means.

While in school, you need to get the best grades you can, since that is often a filter to apply for jobs. Some companies would not talk to me because I had a 3.5 GPA. Sorry, but I worked my way through university to pay all the bills. "Good enough" grades was my goal.

Oh, and you can probably forget about a double-major. When I was in school, engineering majors were not allowed a minor, much less a double-major. ASE can be mostly mechanical based, especially if you study fluid mechanics (like I did). Viscous boundary layer theory and fully simulating Navier-Stokes https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_equations are still some of the hardest problems out there.

K/H? I did WT*. Among Techies, this is major fail. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/International_System_of_Units

You said that horsepower doesn't mean a whole lot and torque is for getting shit done. Torque is just a twisting force, if there is no movement, there is no work. Torque with no work is useless. When there is movement you have work, and power (often measured in HP in the auto world) is the rate at which work is performed. Horsepower is what gets shit done.