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Military Labs Develop Caffeinated Jerky and "Zapplesauce"

A military research facility outside Boston has come up two new super foods for MREs (Meal, Ready to Eat). Soon soldiers will able to stay awake during guard duty thanks to caffeinated meat sticks. They'll have the energy for extended patrols from a "super-charged" applesauce. From the article: "'There is a lot of science that goes into this,' said David Accetta, a spokesman for the Natick Soldier Research, Development & Engineering Center, where every item put into an MRE is tested and tasted. 'And that’s what a lot of people don’t realize. It’s not just a bunch of cooks in the kitchen making up recipes.'”

151 comments

  1. Futurama is finally here!! by Faw · · Score: 5, Funny

    “I’m never gonna get used to the 31st century. Caffeinated bacon? Baconated grapefruit? ADMIRAL Crunch?”
    Fry, Futurama

    1. Re:Futurama is finally here!! by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Funny

      Next thing you know, they'll give soldiers Big Pink gum. It's the only gum with the breath freshening power of ham and it pinkens your teeth while you chew.

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    2. Re:Futurama is finally here!! by uberjack · · Score: 1

      If you don't like that, try some Archduke Chocula. (P.S. It appears that you beat me to it. I tip my hat to you, Sir)

    3. Re:Futurama is finally here!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't like that, try some Archduke Chocula.

      (P.S. It appears that you beat me to it. I tip my hat to you, Sir)

      You could've pulled off your own Futurama quote with "tip my bonnet to you".

      (Followed by "dumbass"...)

  2. zapplesauce by alphatel · · Score: 0

    Anything that starts with a Z reminds me of Halloween.

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    1. Re:Zapplesauce by Migraineman · · Score: 1

      Mr. Brannigan, please put the microphone down ... and put your pants back on.

  3. MRE by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Or as the veterans I know who were familiar with them call them:

    Meals, Rarely Edible.

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    1. Re:MRE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then, can I have your laxative cocoa if you're not going to drink it?

    2. Re:MRE by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      The shocking thing is that there was apparently someone somewhere who thought a cook was involved in preparing MREs. This person, like Tom Lehrer's mess sergeant, probably has his tastebuds shot off in the war...

      That said, the desserts aren't too bad, although mainly because they are 90% sugar...

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    3. Re:MRE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      actually the meals are fairly good, probably because a MRE meal has 1,250 calories, nearly 200 calories more than a McDonald's Big Mac Meal. Not hard to make something taste decent when you're shoving it full of calories.

    4. Re:MRE by kryliss · · Score: 2

      I used to love the BBQ pork and rice, Ham slice and the Corned Beef Hash MREs. One was smart to save their Tobasco sauce from the good packs to use when you got stuck with something like.... Omlete pack number 1......

      USMC 1990-1994

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    5. Re:MRE by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Yeah, when we had to pull out after Desert Storm, we had a pile of Omelet packs left over (all gone through for any good stuff). They burned with a green/black smoke. Weird!

      USAF '87-'94

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    6. Re:MRE by unkiereamus · · Score: 2

      And and here I always thought it stood for Meals Rejected by Ethiopians.

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    7. Re:MRE by Hunter-Killer · · Score: 2

      During OIF I, I made the grievous error of saying that #4, Country Captain Chicken, wasn't that terrible. After a few days of my coworkers selflessly saving the #4 for me while they got first pick on a new box, I quickly recanted.

    8. Re:MRE by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think it's a bit like the uncanny valley. MREs are close enough to regular food that you focus on the differences between them and freshly prepared food. They really aren't bad for something that can be eaten after sitting on the shelf unrefrigerated for years, being exposed to temperatures ranging from -60F to +120F, then dropped 100 feet.

      The old C-rations left no doubt as to what they were about. It was quite obvious the only reason anyone would willingly consume a C-ration was that the alternative was death by starvation. It also weighed 5.5 lb, as opposed to 1lb 2oz - 1lb 10oz for a modern MRE. K rations were so bad that even the prospect of starvation wasn't enough. Men in one unit lost an average of 35 pounds living on them and contracted pellagra and beriberi. According to one report, soldiers who'd been forced to survive on K-rations would vomit at the mere sight of a K ration box afterwards.

      No prepackaged meals have ever been as good as even mediocre fresh cooking. Yet people still buy frozen dinners and freeze-dried camping food. MREs seem to be in the same range as that stuff. You wouldn't want to live on them, but they sure beat starvation.

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    9. Re:MRE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a popular meme but completely false. The US military's food is actually some of the best field rations available. US troops love to bitch like little babies about it (some actually are pretty bad, but most are far from it). The fact is, most of the world's troops are happy to trade US MREs for their own. Such swaps are common and frequently highly prized. Each think the other is a fool and only they made the superior trade. The fact is, most non-US troops actually make the vastly superior trade.

      Honestly, in a country where the vast majority of the population eats 100% shit three meals a day, there is little to no room to complain about MREs. Most MREs are more nutritionally sound and taste better than the majority of shit Americans thrown down their throat on a daily basis. Hell, I've seen soldiers turn their nose up at high quality, four star cuisine and a marine just about flip out when he was served a salad. I've seen another marine get stomach cramps. When asked about it, he explained he had never eaten a salad before. That's not an exaguration either. He ate it to be polite. Such a reaction is no uncommon for people who never eat nutritional food. The fact is, most enlisted people serving in the military wouldn't know good, nutritionally sound food if you beat them over the head with it. And its not just me saying so; such statements are a documented fact by those who actually create MREs.

      For the most part, MREs are actually pretty damn good food - taking into account it is a food ration and not a five star restaurant. Sorry, but most of the people who complain do so because one, they've literally never eaten nutritionally sound food, or two, like to complain about MREs because its VERY fashionable to do so in every known military.

      The complaints about MREs says far, far, far more about the low food intelligence of the American population than anything else. Hard to believe the US is one of the fatests countries on Earth. Oh wait - its not hard to believe at all. Doh...

    10. Re:MRE by tibman · · Score: 1

      We called them Mystery meals.. get it.. Mystery / Mr. E / MRE

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    11. Re:MRE by jjbenz · · Score: 1

      In the 80's I heard my fellow soldiers refer to them as Meals Rejected by Ethiopians.

    12. Re:MRE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, actually, a salad (or fruit, for that matter) can be kinda rough on an empty, hungry stomach. It burns like dry leaves and all that's left is a bunch of indigestible fiber. Meanwhile, your acids just got going and they're chewing holes in your stomach trying to figure out what happened to the food.

  4. Cornholio by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

    Have you ever actually eaten an MRE? The things are 1200 calories or so, about 900 of those from raw sugar. What better way to get a bunch of teenagers to go out and kill people, than to get them all hopped up on a sugar high like a squad of heavily armed Cornholios?. Caffeinated jerky fits right in.

    1. Re:Cornholio by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually getting "hopped up on sugar" is a myth.

      People don't get more hyper-active after eating sugar- or if they do, it is not because of the sugar per-se than the stimulating environment that often surrounds times we eat sugar. Kids at b'day party get hyper because it is a b'day party- not because they ate cake.

      Most people (kids included) who don't have insulin-related problems don't undergo any kind of wild mood swings due to eating sugary foods.

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    2. Re:Cornholio by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Private Void,

      Eating an MRE has more of the effect of putting a solid brick in your bowels than getting you "hopped" up. The only raw sugar I encountered eating all the hundreds of MREs I've reluctantly consumed in my 7+ years active duty Marine Corps was the sugar packets that came with the instant coffee packets. There's also a candy of some sort, my favorite being a bag of M&Ms stating they are proud sponsors of the 1984 Olympics (this was in 1996). Anything new, tasty, and FSM forbid, energizing would be welcome.

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    3. Re:Cornholio by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      you have obviously never been around children the day after Halloween, Easter, or Valentines day, try it some time will will quickly learn how wrong you are.

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    4. Re:Cornholio by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Maybe you skipped the desserts? They may not be pure sugar, but they certainly taste like it...

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    5. Re:Cornholio by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2

      How about the "Beverage Base Powder"? That's 90+% sugar (Kool-aid (tm) by any other name, I'd bet).

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    6. Re:Cornholio by maxdread · · Score: 1

      Further helping to support his claim that it has a lot to do with the events we associate with a so called sugar high. Those are all fun days for a kid, of course they're gonna be hyperactive, that's what kids do. At least until we teach them to plant their fat asses in front of an xbox for 8 hours a day.

    7. Re:Cornholio by Captain.Abrecan · · Score: 1

      It's a lot different when it has been scientifically proved wrong. Your experience with children has made you prejudiced. When you have a double blind test done with hundreds of kids, and sugar has zero effect on them no matter what race, age, disabilities, dietary intake, etc. then you can see that sugar does nothing to the human body unless you already have some horrible insulin related problem. Society has known about this since 1995, wake up.

    8. Re:Cornholio by s2jcpete · · Score: 1

      I had the EXACT same situation in 1996~97. I remember the 1984 Olympic M&M's, and they had turned white from the fat leeching out I guess. Yes, I ate them hehe

    9. Re:Cornholio by PFactor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As a former Marine myself (8 years active duty), I can attest that Oodaloop is right on the money. We used to call them Meals Rarely Excreted.

      As an aside, if you ever go to Korea (not Best Korea, the other one) the locals will trade you a bottle of Soju (rotgut liquor) for the main meal in your MRE.

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    10. Re:Cornholio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feed a kid a couple of candy bars. Watch them bounce off the furniture.

      Some kids dont react at all to it. Some turn into crazed bumper cars. Your point again?

      You even already know the reason. Acclimation (8 hours a day comment), is what causes them to 'not react'. They eventually get used to it. But until then they get jittery and bouncy.

      I used to do it to my nephews and nieces all the time. Give them a couple of sugar flavored water drinks then return them to their parents. Short time after my sister would cal 'why did you do that I cant get them to goto sleep and they are racing around?'. Mean joke? Yes, but demonstrates you are speaking from your other end...

    11. Re:Cornholio by ByOhTek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you eat them...?

      (a) ...Out of curiosity
      (b) ...Out of self defense (lest they eat you first)
      (c) ...Because you wanted to

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    12. Re:Cornholio by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      or more realistically what better way to keep a chronically tired soldier alert so he doesn't get his ass shot off

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    13. Re:Cornholio by s2jcpete · · Score: 2

      hahaha you do things you normally wouldn't when you are sleep deprived, hungry and bored.

    14. Re:Cornholio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anecdotal evidence and post hoc reasoning to the rescue! Let's read the grandparent post again very slowly:

      it is not because of the sugar per-se than the stimulating environment that often surrounds times we eat sugar. Kids at b'day party get hyper because it is a b'day party- not because they ate cake.

      Now let's compare to your post:

      you have obviously never been around children the day after Halloween, Easter, or Valentines day

      Are we starting to understand the point you've already tried to carelessly refute?

    15. Re:Cornholio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, people do get "high" from sugar. However, if you consume substantial amounts of high-fructose corn syrup daily (cereal or basically anything too processed) your tolerance is higher. In that case you need to consume more to get effects.

      If you are off sugar, and then do caffeine and sugar in the same package (Coca Cola anyone?) you'll be just screwed for a while. Try starting up ketosis, keeping it up for some time and then hitting a non-light coke.

      Also, sugar in large quantities is habit-forming. When you've done sugar, and the effect wears off, you need to get it again. If you're consuming substantial amounts of sugar, such as eating candy daily, and then cut it cold, you get effects similar to depression and mood swings "downwards".

      The reason why you are fed so much sugar stems from the industry i.e. some people make money poisoning you, so they want to keep on doing it. See also the tobacco industry.

      Fun fact: if small babies get sugar they go bonkers; for them, sugar can be used as a mild pain relief.

    16. Re:Cornholio by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      People don't get more hyper-active after eating sugar- or if they do, it is not because of the sugar per-se than the stimulating environment that often surrounds times we eat sugar

      Having personally seen adults who used to "sugar speed", and the startling effects on their body ... I pretty much have to call bullshit on that one.

      I'm sure environment is also a factor, but I've pretty much seen it get ugly fast as someone who is very affected by sugar goes into warp-drive.

      It's not a catch all explanation, but I'm pretty sure for some people raw sugar basically leads them to a phrenetic period, and then a complete crash. It's actually quite alarming to witness this.

      We used to have an admin assistant who chowed down on a bunch of candy, got mildly insane for an hour or two, and then crashed and became an emotional wreck ... we were all glad when she recognized this and started to cut out sugar. Because even HR was trying to figure out how to let someone go/reprimand them for sugar induced psychotic behavior.

      It was definitely NOT an overstimulating environment of a bunch of other excited kids.

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    17. Re:Cornholio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be a placebo effect on that one. Maybe she just wanted an excuse to go apeshit.

    18. Re:Cornholio by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      That may be the case for that, and other individuals- but I have read articles where they have run tests in various scenarios on this subject: giving one group a placebo- one group nothing- and a third group sugar and noting that no overall difference in activity levels.

      There could have been a medical condition for the admin assistant- or it could have been an emotional thing- she was excited when eating the sugar- and got depressed when she no longer had it to look forwards to.

      I'm not sure if it is purely an American social phenomenon linking sugar to hyperactivity- I've only ever heard Americans talking about "Sugar Highs"- certainly never heard the expression when growing up until moving to the US- and our bodies should handle our sugar levels... but there could also be a level of self-fullfilling prophecy here. If you expect to get a sugar high- you exhibit the symptoms of one; like experiments where people are served non-alcoholic beverages and told they have alcohol in them- they will show symptoms of having consumed alcohol.

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    19. Re:Cornholio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's mostly a placebo effect. That, and they do have all this energy from the sugar.

      What sort of studies were those? Because if the idea was to give kids sugar without them knowing they were getting a sugar rush, then you'll eliminate the placebo effect. But normally, kids know when they're getting sugar, so the converse needs to be tested... give kids sugary food, and give them food that's sweet but with a sugar substitute, and then see whether there's a difference.

    20. Re:Cornholio by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

      Which explains the behavior of both military during operations and programmers during crunch time.

    21. Re:Cornholio by s2jcpete · · Score: 1

      hahah I was military, and am now a programmer. I concur

    22. Re:Cornholio by Quila · · Score: 1

      Have you ever actually eaten an MRE?

      More times than I care to remember. An MRE is about half carbohydrates, a mix of complex (the starches and breads common in MREs) and simple (sugar). It's there because it is the fuel for a soldier's physical exertions during the day.

    23. Re:Cornholio by peragrin · · Score: 2

      the MRE's of today aren't the same ones they made in 1996.

      In fact there have been quite a few major differences. anyone who's last MRE was pre 2001 really shouldn't talk about it until they have tried the ones made since.

      That said, they are still going to sit like a lump of coal in your stomach.

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    24. Re:Cornholio by oodaloop · · Score: 2

      I have had the new ones. I got out in 2003, and have gone downrange since then as well. They are better that what they used to be. Still not exactly high cuisine.

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    25. Re:Cornholio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if it is purely an American social phenomenon linking sugar to hyperactivity- I've only ever heard Americans talking about "Sugar Highs"- certainly never heard the expression when growing up until moving to the US- and our bodies should handle our sugar levels... but there could also be a level of self-fullfilling prophecy here. If you expect to get a sugar high- you exhibit the symptoms of one; like experiments where people are served non-alcoholic beverages and told they have alcohol in them- they will show symptoms of having consumed alcohol.

      I doubt this based on my own experiences.

      I am from Europe and had not heard about sugar highs until my final exams. During an essay I ate about 100g of raw sugar (dextro energy tablets) while consuming about 0.5l water on an almost empty stomach.

      I felt great during the exam - extremely focused, very "sharp" mind - and didn't really notice my food intake (or rather the lack thereof); I was writing for about 4 hours straight without feeling the need to take breaks or having to pause for thinking.

      About half an hour after I had handed in the essay I almost collapsed - was talking agitatedly with my gf when suddenly everything went black, I almost lost balance and had to sit down for several minutes to stabilize. I felt extremely shitty - crazy pulse, very shaky, thinking was not very clear, very tired. It took about an hour until I was back to normal.

      It was not the first or last of my final exams, nor was it a particularly hard one. Only difference between this experience and four other, entirely uneventful exam days was the sugar+water only diet. I felt great during the exam (better than usual) and the quality of my work did apparently not suffer but the breakdown was an extremely scary experience for me which made me stop bringing sugar tablets to exams entirely.

    26. Re:Cornholio by MBC1977 · · Score: 1

      Oh come they are not that bad. lol The Cajun Rice, Beans and Sausage is actually quite good. lol (better then the chow hall some days). Not mention if you take the Spice Poundcake and the Spiced Apples, you get an Apple-Pie type treat (of course you have to ratfuck about 3 MREs but hey who's counting). hehe

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    27. Re:Cornholio by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      We used to call them Meals Rarely Excreted.

      My favorite is "Meals Rejected by Ethiopians".

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    28. Re:Cornholio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You haven't been around my kids after they've eaten candy!

    29. Re:Cornholio by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about chocolate candy bars? Those have theobromine in them. Lots of sugar-flavored drinks contain caffeine, citric acid, or simple sugars like glucose or fructose rather than or in addition to sucrose. If you give kids too much simple sugars and some citric acid, they may have more energy available but it won't make them hyper on its own.

      The caffeine and theobromine along with visit with a mischievous uncle who wants to get them excited before handing them back to their mother are better bets unless they have an insulin condition. Are the kids borderline diabetics?

      Also, please remember the plural of "anecdote" is "anecdotes", not "data".

    30. Re:Cornholio by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      I don't think anyone is arguing that sugar can give you energy or make you feel good. The argument is against it making people hyperactive. Did you have trouble focusing on your test and get out of your seat several times during the exam? Apparently exactly the opposite happened, so you confirm that it did not make you hyper.

    31. Re:Cornholio by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      One of the goals is to regulate you to once daily or at the most three every two days solid waste excretion. A situation in which you need MREs is not one in which you want all your buddies in the head.

  5. I have a better idea: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Could you please learn to English?

    1. Re:I have a better idea: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Could the food industri please stop selling addictive drugs to people? Its really annoying to watch."
      ---"Could you please learn to English?"
      who needs to learn what now?

    2. Re:I have a better idea: by del_diablo · · Score: 1

      Coffine is one of the most addicted substances known to man.

    3. Re:I have a better idea: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      whoooooosh

    4. Re:I have a better idea: by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Coffine is one of the most addicted substances known to man.

      Cool, where can I get it? Caffeine is so twentieth century anyway. And tobacco is nasty stuff.

      Any side effects we should know about?

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    5. Re:I have a better idea: by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      Coffine is one of the most addicted substances known to man.

      Cool, where can I get it? Caffeine is so twentieth century anyway. And tobacco is nasty stuff.

      Any side effects we should know about?

      It turns your semen bright blue, but has not been proven to result in birth defects.

    6. Re:I have a better idea: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      believe it or not, the army already runs on coffee, and MREs already include coffee. This just makes it more convenient than trying to find hot water.

    7. Re:I have a better idea: by kryliss · · Score: 1

      I thought addiction was the realm of bacon.....

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    8. Re:I have a better idea: by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      Any side effects we should know about?

      Impaired language skills to both you and those you interact with, apparently.

      With a name like that, I'd also expect occasional outbreaks of death and burial in a box.

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    9. Re:I have a better idea: by Wandering+Voice · · Score: 1

      It is and this new development has doubled the addictive powers of Bacon. Caffeinated bacon sounds amazing. Now they just need to make some baconated chewing gum.

  6. Been in FSR for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta love the media.. ITS NEW!! LOL.. Its been around since 2009 for the First Strike Rations.

    http://xbradtc.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/zapplesauce/

  7. Not just a bunch of cooks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "'There is a lot of science that goes into this,' said David Accetta, a spokesman for the Natick Soldier Research, Development & Engineering Center, where every item put into an MRE is tested and tasted. 'And that’s what a lot of people don’t realize. It’s not just a bunch of cooks in the kitchen making up recipes.'”

    No wonder they taste so bad. Remember to make friends at the mess.

    1. Re:Not just a bunch of cooks... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      SAC bases have the best food, at least in Air Force.

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  8. Re:Food industri selling drugs by stms · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A ./ article about MREs and the first post is criticizes our food system. These are not designed for civilians these are military field rations. Honestly it's pretty neat.

  9. Not really new by whoda · · Score: 2

    My local store has caffeinated jerky, and has for awhile.

    1. Re:Not really new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Is that Bill, the old coot who stands near the coffee pot and talks politics?

    2. Re:Not really new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My son (9 y.o.) and I were in Alaska this past summer visiting relatives. While at Home Depot we ran across someone giving out free sample of jerky. I did what I thought was a reasonable job of parental due diligence to make sure it wasn't too awful, but somehow missed that it was caffeinated.

      I'll never forget his telling me at 2:30 a.m., having not yet gone to sleep, that his toes and fingers were still "zipping"

    3. Re:Not really new by sunderland56 · · Score: 2

      And it has an awesome name: Perky Jerky

  10. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big deal they have instant coffee in MRE's. I used to gather up all of these from the non coffee drinkers. When I needed a shot of energy from say a long forced march rip open the packet and down the hatch.

    1. Re:Meh by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Big deal they have instant coffee in MRE's. I used to gather up all of these from the non coffee drinkers. When I needed a shot of energy from say a long forced march rip open the packet and down the hatch.

      No wonder the Veteran's Administration has such problems. There is NOTHING so rancid, so hopeless, so depraved in this world as an instant coffee mainliner. Nothing at all.

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  11. Ketracel-white by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Foolish... this is nothing compared to Ketracel-white to keep soldiers ready to di^Wsave the world :/

    1. Re:Ketracel-white by Jeng · · Score: 1

      This might not work as well as Ketracel-white, but it won't kill you if you quit taking it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil

      And is currently being given to pilots and special ops.

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    2. Re:Ketracel-white by JonySuede · · Score: 2

      And when it does not works, we gave them good'ol amphetamine sulphate! http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/01/17/1042520778665.html

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  12. Caffeinated Bacon? by uberjack · · Score: 0

    Baconated Grapefruit? Admiral Crunch?

  13. Zapplesauce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It is delicious. I had some in Afghanistan last year. It tastes like regular applesauce, which is to say, delicious.

  14. The next thing by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 1

    Next they'll find a way to put caffeine in coffee. That would work for me.

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  15. Re:Food industri selling drugs by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    Yep, because the food industry sells MREs primarily to the public.

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  16. Caffeine is awesome by Gazzonyx · · Score: 2

    Caffeine is an awesome drug. So long as your job doesn't ever consist of accurately firing a weapon or going long durations without peeing.

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    1. Re:Caffeine is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's good for everyone but snipers and pilots then?

    2. Re:Caffeine is awesome by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Caffeine is an awesome drug. So long as your job doesn't ever consist of accurately firing a weapon or going long durations without peeing.

      Eh. I once drank 20 cups of coffee in a day, then got a "marksman" score on the range. So that's not really an issue. As for long durations without peeing, that's not really an issue either - anyone in the combat arms quickly learns how to pee anywhere, any time, in any position. Unless you're on parade in front of the Queen, in which case you may be fucked.

  17. obligatory trek reference by smoothnorman · · Score: 1
    PICARD: But even when we wore costumes like that we'd already started to make rapid progress.

    Q: Oh yeah? You want to review your rapid progress?

    Q: Rapid progress, to where humans learned to control their military with drugs.

  18. So the military re-created Perky Jerky? by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 1

    Um, how is the caffeinated jerky anything new? We've had it for years thanks to http://www.perkyjerky.com/ and until recently it was sold over at ThinkGeek.

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  19. Sounds familiar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two words: Nazis, meth.

    1. Re:Sounds familiar... by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1

      Godwin?

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    2. Re:Sounds familiar... by KingAlanI · · Score: 2

      Godwin's Law simply says that the longer an internet discussion gets, the more likely a Nazi reference becomes.
      It's also about giving your military personnel stimulants, so this Godwin seems on-topic.

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  20. That seems like a poor choice... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm surprised that they'd be using caffeine: 1. It's already dirt cheap and readily available in a wide variety of convenient forms. Coffee(with varying tradeoffs between goodness and portability), tea(ditto), water, pills, assorted energy-shot things, etc, etc. It's a readily water-soluble alkaloid stimulant. Not hard to work with.

    Perhaps more importantly, caffeine is actually a mediocre alertness aid. In sufficient quantity it will prevent you from sleeping; but the jittery, dubiously-lucid, feeling that it provides isn't exactly "wakefulness". Not really a win for clear thinking or straight shooting. It seems like some exploration of Modafinil, or related drugs, if any, would be more productive.

    That stuff isn't nearly as readily available in already common, light, nonperishable forms, and when it prevents you from sleeping you just don't feel sleepy. The effect is uncanny.

    1. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by spook+brat · · Score: 1

      Some of us soldiers refuse to use the coffee or tea for religious reasons, so I'd welcome an alternative wakefulness aid in the MRE.

      As far as caffeine goes, though, it's probably being used because it's trusted. I remember reading a while back that any new wakefulness drug needs to be comparable to a 600mg dose of caffeine in order to be acceptable. I couldn't find the reference on that, but I did find a military-published study on effectiveness of caffeine, which seemed to endorse its continued use.

      And while I agree with you that the acceptance process for new drugs should be sped up, I'm glad they're not using servicemen as guinea pigs in the process - it's bad enough that amphetamines are still used as "Go pills" routinely. On the other hand, Viagra went unusually quickly from off-schedule to prescription for ED, perhaps we just need to find the right leverage on the FDA admins =)

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    2. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      USMC 2007 - present

      The big advantage of caffeine is that most marines know its effects and are used to dealing with them. Mostly being used as an supplement to natural discipline to stay awake, there is still nothing better then getting some sleep but when that is not an option having the minor help and comfort of caffeine definitely makes long actions a little more bearable.

    3. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by Zouden · · Score: 1

      If a religion forbids coffee & tea, won't it also forbid caffeinated jerky?

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    4. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us soldiers refuse to use the coffee or tea for religious reasons

      Is this proof that god hates you?

    5. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even amphetamine would be a better choice than caffeine. At low doses, it is an extremely effective alertness aid and lacks the jittery feeling of caffeine. At these low doses, there is also very little (or no) euphoria. It feels less "drug-like" than caffeine, so there'd be little need to adjust to new effects as the marine below mentioned.

    6. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's probably a member of a religion that had to give up polygamy to let Utah gain statehood and until the late 70's viewed non-white skin as the mark of Cain. Don't expect logical consistency.

    7. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I certainly don't have anything against caffeine per se(not exactly a non-user here), I just found it a strange choice to be coupling with items also intended as food, since the effects at higher doses are somewhat unpleasant, and a strange choice to be researching, because there are already so many delivery options, running the gamut from palatable and non-portable to endurable and virtually indestructible.

    8. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by helios17 · · Score: 1

      I spent almost 9 years stationed in Germany over my career span and one of the "perks" of getting ready for an IG inspection was a local bottled drug called X112. It was almost pure caffeine and you had to break it down in orange juice or another strong citrus before consuming it...it was horribly bitter. But, holy crap was it powerful. Many have compared the effect to that of high grade meth. Personally, I have nothing to compare it to but I know that one cap full manically fueled a soldier for 12 hours, nonstop.

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    9. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, silly people.

      I was thinking about it for a while one time, out of curiosity mostly, wondering what the mark of Cain might actually have been. We know it was obvious, and we know that presumably someone who saw it would know "bad things will happen to me if I kill this guy" without having to be told, unless God went around and told everyone, which I kinda doubt.

      My conclusion was that the mark had to simply reek of "death". This is for a number of reasons. First, like Adam & Eve's sin, murder was something that God said break this law and you die. And like Adam & Eve, Cain didn't actually die then and there. He was more of a dead man walking... just waiting to get around to dying physically so that he could go meet his judge. Another thing - when Adam & Eve sinned, their appearance changed dramatically too. Namely, they ended up covered in dead animals' skins. To someone who hadn't experienced any sort of death previously, that had to have been pretty damn grotesque, and I would assume the mark Cain wore was similarly grotesque. And lastly, as I said before, the mark basically had to say "this guy's already dead - he's mine, don't touch him. God."

      Then I got to speculating further. It's pretty apparent that people were originally neither white nor black, but somewhere in-between. Genetic mutations and our own selective mating processes have obviously diversified our appearance pretty widely. But I wonder, if the mark wasn't just unnaturally pale skin? That would signify death, as corpses look very pale and grey. And there are diseases which can produce whiteness in otherwise dark-skinned individuals.

      Could be... would be rather ironic if the aforementioned religion got that exactly wrong, though.

      Then again... they get a lot of things exactly wrong.

    10. Re:That seems like a poor choice... by metalgamer84 · · Score: 1

      I'm glad they're not using servicemen as guinea pigs in the process

      Gulf War Veterans might say otherwise...

  21. Stay awake during guard duty ??? by Sentrion · · Score: 2

    OK, so instead of cold, tired, scared recruits with overpowered assault rifles standing guard in the dark of night we're going to have jittery, cold, tired, scared recruits with overpowered assault rifles standing guard in the dark of night. Lovely.

    1. Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Overpowered???

      Have you ever shot a M16 or M4? It's barely good enough to kill a deer with!!

    2. Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? by El+Torico · · Score: 1

      Oh we've had those for a long time; the old C ration coffee was great stuff. I'd save enough packets to make a sauce out of them and drink it up. About 30 to 40 minutes later I'd actually be so wired I felt I was vibrating. Good times.

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    3. Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? by Gilmoure · · Score: 2

      overpowered assault rifles

      They've gone back to the .30-06?

      SWEET!

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    4. Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? by cavePrisoner · · Score: 2

      A buddy of mine (a gunner) once had to stay awake on mission for 3 days while going through a particularly dangerous area of Afghanistan. Jittery or not, you MUST stay awake. If you don't, you can't protect your vehicle or the rest of the convoy at all. Caffeine hallucinations suck, but you can at least stay on task.

      Personally though, I only see a useful effect from caffeine from about a cup per 8 hours awake. If I work a ~30 hour shift (used to do it twice a week in garrison), the sixth or seventh coffee or energy drink will just run right through me. It's best to wait until you can't hold your eyes open anymore, then start sipping slowly on something with caffeine. I had more trouble eating enough calories than staying awake since everything you eat feels like lead after a while. Maybe that's the logic of combining food and caffeine, to encourage you to consume something and restore some of that energy.

    5. Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? by x6060 · · Score: 1

      Hell, it isnt good enough to reliably take down a deer unless your shot placement is excellent. It is recommended that when using anything chambered in 5.56x45 on anything bigger than a squirrel that you put multiple rounds into it.

      for the OP: Don't talk about things your don't know or understand.

    6. Re:Stay awake during guard duty ??? by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      OK, so instead of cold, tired, scared recruits with overpowered assault rifles standing guard in the dark of night we're going to have jittery, cold, tired, scared recruits with overpowered assault rifles standing guard in the dark of night. Lovely.

      The only scared recruits I've ever met were the ones on their basic-training course, and they were far more terrified that their section commander might catch them dozing off than anything some future enemy might throw at them. And we only gave them live rounds under very controlled conditions.

      Also, the rifles are underpowered, the cold-weather kit is excellent, and everyone gets enough sleep to function properly for the most part. REAL sleep deprivation does happen, but it's relatively rare (though, granted, my idea of real sleep deprivation may differ greatly from yours).

  22. what does military research??? by sylvandb · · Score: 1

    Sounds like military research discovered 5150 ...

  23. Re:Food industri selling drugs by h5inz · · Score: 1

    Fancy some panzerschokolade?

  24. Wasted research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A military research facility outside Boston

    And how many millions of dollars has this cost the taxpayer? Why didn't they just buy a bunch of already caffeinated products from Think Geek?

    1. Re:Wasted research by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Why didn't they just buy a bunch of already caffeinated products from Think Geek?

      Shelf life. Even if they did just buy caffeinated products from Think Geek they would still have to run them though all the quality assurance tests to make sure they will still be good 10 or so years from now.

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  25. Have they taken care of the big problem? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    I've heard that the MRE acronym is jokingly explained as "Meal that Refuses to Exit." So, I hope they've taken care of that...

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  26. Not a bunch of cooks in the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well that's obvious.... you ever taste an MRE?

  27. Re:Food industri selling drugs by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Does that make it any better? What's wrong with a caffeine pill? Do you really want a soldier getting caffeinated when he's just hungry?

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  28. mOLDy by calderra · · Score: 1

    Special forces MREs have had these items for years, I remember trying to buy some Zapplesauce online a while back to give it a try but couldn't find a worthwhile price. Also, I've eaten a number of modern MREs and some of the are very tasty. Most packs now contain candy or Tobasco or other incentives to get you calories down. I wouldn't want it every day, but for a field ration it's pretty good.

    1. Re:mOLDy by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      First gen MRE's were ok (11 out of 12 anyways). I liked the Chicken Ala-King. And they had Tabasco in them back then. Still have a couple of the bottles somewhere.

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    2. Re:mOLDy by x6060 · · Score: 1

      SF always has the latest and greatest years before everyone else. Then again they also field strip their MREs and add stuff as well. They also dont have to worry about freshness as they can get new stuff as required. The normal supply lines can be MUCH longer, as in decades longer.

    3. Re:mOLDy by jjbenz · · Score: 1

      I second that, the Chicken Ala-King was my favorite.

  29. I wonder what it tastes like after a few bites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It must taste like a plastelinized leather shoe sole with added caffeine's bitternes for the extra diminuitive swallowing gag reflex....
    Red Bull & Salami?

    1. Re:I wonder what it tastes like after a few bites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bet, mboy! MRE are only for Solid-State-Snakes III. Jungle can be a hungry place, boy must eat plenty snake snacks to stay astray.

    2. Re:I wonder what it tastes like after a few bites by Jeng · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if that is or is not an improvement over Slim Jims wet cardboard texture with artificial meat flavorings.

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  30. Eh by RyoShin · · Score: 1

    As an active duty soldier, this doesn't really pump me up much. Most MREs include a packet of coffee or tea (which I think is caffeinated). True, those require some sort of water/container, but many MREs already have Ranger Bars, which are like those energy bars you can get at the grocery store (which work to varying degrees).

    Now, when they get rid of the Vegetarian Omelet MRE, then there will be some cheering.

    (Some MREs have other, ah, means of keeping you awake...)

  31. Nothing new - Nazis and Meth by JoeCommodore · · Score: 0

    IIRC Methamphetamine was used by Axis soldiers to keep energized for long periods such as combat...

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  32. Re:Food industri selling drugs by Fned · · Score: 1

    Could the food industri please stop selling addictive drugs to people?

    No.

    Well, I mean they could, but then someone else would do it instead.

  33. How much have MREs improved? by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was in one of the first training platoons in the Army which received the "newfangled" MREs instead of C-Rations. Although they were colloquially called "Meals Ready to Excrete" by the "early adopters" of such a technology of cuisine, it felt like they traveled at Mach 2 through the digestive system until the last "quarter mile" of the intestinal tunnel. Then they seemingly sat there for days.

    Much of the above activity was due to the famously known "Dehydrated Beef Patty" and "Dehydrated Pork Patty." No matter how much water you added to them, they went down like shredded corrugated cardboard, exhibiting the same gustatory and gastronomical effects.

  34. Army food by Windwraith · · Score: 1

    This was pretty informative.

    The topic of food that is readily available, has shelf life, and is designed to give energy boosts -and don't taste like metal scraps. Nothing lowers morale like not eating well- is very interesting. I wonder if there are more articles giving more details on the process, pros and cons of proposed rations, and their energy values.

    I hope it's not a military secret or something like that, though.

  35. I expect these will be on thinkgeek next week by fotbr · · Score: 1

    subject says it all

  36. Napoleon by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    As Napoleon said, "An army marches on its stomach".

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    1. Re:Napoleon by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      As Napoleon said, "An army marches on its stomach".

      Especially when what the army had to march on ends up in their stomach, like when Napoleon's forces had to eat the leather from their shoes on the failed invasion of Russia.

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  37. milk plus by doug · · Score: 1

    They just need milk plus to have a complete and balanced meal

  38. COFFEE THEN KILL!!! COFFEE THEN KILL!!! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 0

    DEAD BABIES FOR a better AMERICA!
    Stay awake longer, and KILL more BABIES!

    Hooray, NATO!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUqKY7S4MHw

    I wish I had my face back. Then I could have COFFEE and KILL!!!

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  39. Re:Food industri selling drugs by Moryath · · Score: 1

    They've improved the taste somewhat over the years.

    On the other end, however, it still gives you constipation like you wouldn't believe. They should start packing an ex-lax into each one to balance it out...

  40. OK hot. Cold, not so much. by Animats · · Score: 2

    MREs aren't all that bad if you can heat the entree. If not, they're not much fun.

    Go for the chicken-based entrees. "Pasta with Vegetables in Tomato Sauce" (discontinued in 2006), not so good. There are 24 different MREs in each year, and each case contains a semi-random selection. They're reliable survival food. Everyone should have a case or two around, just in case.

    The packaging is very tough. They can be dropped from an aircraft without a parachute, and at least 80% of the units should survive.

    1. Re:OK hot. Cold, not so much. by cavePrisoner · · Score: 1

      Just want to second this comment. Last week I was eating a vegetable lasagna and had to throw most of it out because in the cold it returned to its natural cardboard state. This despite the fact that I missed breakfast and was eating a late lunch and was starving. Still wasn't worth it.

      I never heat them unless I have time to kill, but if its warm out they'll usually be edible anyway.

  41. Re:Food industri selling drugs by Aserrann · · Score: 1

    They supposedly do. Ever tried the gum?

  42. Re:Food industri selling drugs by Moryath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They airdrop them into third-world areas as a "humanitarian" gesture. Only then they call them an "HDR" ("Humanitarian Daily Ration.")

    Wrapped in yellow plastic dangerously similar to the yellow plastic around unexploded cluster bomb munitions, approximately the same size/shape too.

    Just to confuse the fuck out of the poor people who don't know if they're about to get a meal or their hand blown off...

  43. I already have the patent by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    On a delicious meat stick that keeps you up all night.

    1. Re:I already have the patent by metalgamer84 · · Score: 1

      Macho Man is that you?

  44. Re:Food industri selling drugs by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    That has nothing to do with the food industry or MREs in general.

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  45. Re:Food industri selling drugs by stms · · Score: 1

    A soldier may not have the luxury of being able to carry around a bunch of pills.

  46. Re:Food industri selling drugs by Hatta · · Score: 1

    This stuff comes in an MRE. Why not put the caffeine pills in the MRE next to the jerky, instead of inside the jerky?

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  47. Re:Food industri selling drugs by stms · · Score: 1

    It saves space and reduces weight. When you're out there you would prefer any food you have to carry to have some caloric benefit. It's also more convenient not to have to take a pill if you're say sniping where any movement at all can take 5 minutes.

  48. I came in on the first generation by Quila · · Score: 1

    Freeze-dried pork patties, four fingers of death ("frankfurters"), freeze-dried fruit cocktail brick, brown packet of coffee powder, no Tobasco, no candy but two pseudo-Chicklets. The only thing really edible was the applesauce, but you had to get the dreaded pork patty meal to get it.

    Meal, Ready to Eat. Truly three lies for the price of one.

    In comparison, the modern MREs are quite good.

  49. Old News by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    My colon's been aware of the supercharging power of applesauce for decades.

  50. Give 'Em The Franchise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why waste time (and taxpayer dollars) on all of this food science mumbo jumbo. Just contract with McD's, Burger King, etc. and very soon we'll be seeing the inimitable cheeseburger/french fry combinations flooding the battlefield and military base.

    They do it at the universities. When working on my degree I used to enjoy delicious (and nutritious) egg salad and tuna salad sandwiches along with luscious cartons of chocolate milk. When the college administrators replaced the cafeteria with an on-site McDonalds franchise, my days of good eating were over. The rest of the student body greatly rejoiced, however.

  51. Zappa Plays Zapplesauce... by Pete+Venkman · · Score: 1

    better than Zappa Plays Zappa. Seriously, I'm surprised Gail Zappa hasn't tried to sue anybody who's trying to call their applesauce product "Zapplesauce".

  52. Re:Food industri selling drugs by cjcela · · Score: 1

    I would mod you up if I had any points left today.

  53. Cold War secrets finally revealed! by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

    "And that’s what a lot of people don’t realize. It’s not just a bunch of cooks in the kitchen making up recipes."

    <tinfoilhat>

    Finally, the American government tells the truth!

    Back during the height of the Cold War, one Finnish grocery store chain had a rather popular series of TV commercials where a nice likeable chef gave out nice recipes and, of course, showed off he delicious food on sale right that day.

    The problem was, some of the Finnish TV transmitters were a tad bit too powerful. In that people in northern Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic could tweak their TVs a little bit to also receive PAL broadcasts and watch to something else besides state-approved television. Stuff like Dallas and Knight Rider. Not material that turns people into burning-hearted Communists. And they had these commercial. Ugh.

    Anyway, Once the word got out to the highest levels of authority, they had to make a statement. A carefully prepared official story said that the chef is obviously a CIA plant. The food shown was obviously just plastic replicas. No way that stuff was real - the grocery stores were dismal and often empty in the Soviet Union, and obviously the capitalist world was doing even worse, dear citizens! They also filed a formal complaint to the Finnish government, though it was not acted upon.

    So now the American government finally reveals the culinary programs and use of food as weapons? I used to dismiss the statement from the Estonians as ridiculous propaganda, because I have lived in Finland all my life and our food has never tasted of plastic. But the true identity of the mystery chef remains a mystery! In light of this new information, perhaps he was a super-chef-spy! Perhaps he spread delicious recipes that were penned in some dark laboratory in the US!

    And I liked Knight Rider - was it nothing more than a carefully calculated ploy to defeat the Soviet Union? The culinary mystery is solved now, but we still need the details on Knight Rider! The food question is relatively irrelevant compared to that. And talking cars are cooler. We need information! Question the American government!

    </tinfoilhat>

  54. Blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever happens to the days where shit made sense and logic ruled the world? I know I'm probably wrong, but it always feels like it was this way (at least to some degrees) back when I was a kid growing up in the 80s. I know, I know... Stuff was always screwed up and I was probably just too young to know it... Doesn't matter. There were better shows on TV back then, more affordable gas, people seemed nicer... Today's shit is wack and it's all because of stupid mindsets and idiotic agendas like the one noted in this retarded article.

    I mean, do you honestly believe that caffeinated fucking bacon is going to turn the tides of war one day? Jesus... I can only imagine how many tax dollars that shit is painted with.

  55. Have to save the cheese by Quila · · Score: 1

    Mix that with the omelete, add Tobasco, not bad.

    I had a large collection of saved MRE pieces to make my recipes. For example, crush a cracker, add jelly, creamer and sugar, mix, flatten, let bake in the sun for a while, you have a Pop Tart.

  56. Basically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There just isn't room in a MRE for fiber. It's crammed full of protein, sugar, and starch. They want every ounce of it to get absorbed and used.

    However, the sorbitol in the chewing gum is a mild laxative, if you save them up and chew enough of them at once.

  57. But wait until they try my.... by radicalrendell · · Score: 1

    ... meatinated caffeine sticks! (Certified by the Vegan Authority of Califonia to contain no meat)

  58. Re:Food industri selling drugs by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    These are not designed for civilians these are military field rations

    And I hate them for it.

    Otherwise, I'd take two cases. Today.