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Of course this is marked troll. Because I must be a Troll if I criticize a man who claims to be a living god along with the Jesus freaks who go along with it.

For the record, I think Jesus is pretty cool. But I don't think that Rev. Moon is Jesus. Nor do I think any fundamentalist would abide his horse-shit if he published a liberal propaganda rag instead of a conservative one.

And for the record, Scientology is full of shit to as well as Clinton's attempts to shield them from German cult busters.

Scientologists will waste few opportunities to pimp their dangerous rituals and dodgy theologies (probably because many of them are in on the take from this multi-level marketing theological scam). More info at Clambake or FactNet.

There are some other interesting things about clams.

And don't forget dragonflies, I think you can trust them, as they're related to daemons (not demons...I hope).

Would it be possible to hire a spammer to offer xenu pamphlets (or other stuff from www.xenu.net) for sale?

The only real problem I see with this is that the xenu.net people would acquire a reputation as spammers, which would be most unfortunate. (well, ok, so that's not the *only* downside, but it is a major one)

*coughwhackjobcough*

More like reviewing OT-III. (Obligatory link to piss off the Scientologists and attract legal action)

I agree with everything you've said ... I'd also like to add, its not like a paranoid schizophrenic has never started a religion before :)

• Residential Schools
• The Taliban, Iran, and Saudi Arabia
• The Sudanese civil war
• Kashmir (both sides)
• The Raid on the Golden Temple at Amritsar
• Air India Flight 182
• Aum Shinrikyo
• "Honour Killings"
• The Inquisition
• Pedophile Priests
• the Church of Scientology, Applied Scholastics, NarcoNon, et al

So tell me now how Ethics comes from religion? Ethics does not mean blindly following your leaders. You must examine the issues for yourself. A secular ethics curriculum gives you the tools to do that. It does not require you to give up your faith.

All you ever wanted to know about Scientology: Operation Clambake

This is also called "the clambake twist", where the church of scientology caught their nuts in a blender when they sued Operation Clambake. By suing, they confirmed that the insane documents were indeed theirs.

Publication is not required for copyright. Freedom of access is not required for copyright (c.f. Scientology).

However, publication one form of duplication, so the only way to make sense of your question is:

"Should I be able to sell DRMed copies of Madonna CDs without paying her"?

Somehow I doubt this is what you meant.

Apparently, according to reports from Operation Clambake, Scientologists are made to install software similar to this, it overwrites their tcp/ip stack and is used to filter a HUGE list of words and names. It will produce a whitespace in their place. Some sites are outright blocked. Oh, and here is where I read that.

Quite. There are easily hundreds of Junior Achievement web sites advertising their programs that teach how wonderful consumerism is, and they all link to each other to pool PageRanks. In terms of search engine clogging, they're almost as bad as Scientology's own educational-program front groups, Applied Scholastics and the Association for Better Living and Education-- and with, as far as I can tell, no informational clearing house as substantial as Operation Clambake to counteract their propaganda. Clearly, this is a niche that badly needs to be filled.

Quite. There are easily hundreds of Junior Achievement web sites advertising their programs that teach how wonderful consumerism is, and they all link to each other to pool PageRanks. In terms of search engine clogging, they're almost as bad as Scientology's own educational-program front groups, Applied Scholastics and the Association for Better Living and Education-- and with, as far as I can tell, no informational clearing house as substantial as Operation Clambake to counteract their propaganda. Clearly, this is a niche that badly needs to be filled.

If they go public, there will be greater pressure to avoid "controversial" stories about them that will affect their stock price. If Google had been a publicly traded company back in the day, then the scientology/operation clambake thing might have gone down much differently (and worse for the public).

Newdow could be crazier than Michael Jackson for all I care. It doesn't change the fact that this is a highly controversial issue over a textbook example of indoctrination which many people are uncomfortable with, and which is long overdue for a trip to the Supreme Court. By attempting to sidestep the arguement by attacking the arguer you're just making yourself look like a douchebag.

See here for more about baloney detection. Courtesy of noted scientist, educator, and atheist Carl Sagan.

The galaxy is divided into several Zones of Thought, ranging from the Transcend on the farthest outskirts of the galaxy to the High and Low Beyond, the Slow Zone, and the Unthinking Depths at the galactic core...Outside the galaxy, in the Transcend, lurk the superintelligent beings who have, well, Transcended

Makes me think of Xenu

Besides Linux, they even got Minix and Xinu in there

Can we please leave the Scientologists out of this?

Could this be the start of a "my company is failing . . . I need to find someone to sue FAST!" campaign?

We've already got a "religion" for that.

And there was me thinking the 11th commandment was

Thou shalt not get caught.

And yeah, why don't they just rename the RIAA to the Church Of Scientology, Music Organisation..

The oracle of the Internet (i.e., Google) indicates that Haag used illegal employment methods in Germany and has been involved in setting up front groups for Scientology. Gee, I wonder if the parking is done not by robots at all but by body thetans.

• advertisements when your computer starts up, and shuts down?
• monitoring? (of course, "only in cases deemed necessary due to force of law, or in cases where a business need can be proven")
• active interference? (thou shalt not visit Unapproved Web Sites like this one or this one

Believe me now or believe me later.

Right. You should link to Scientology like this:

<a href="http://www.xenu.net/">Scientology</a>

Google vs. MSN Search : Fight!

Microsoft is much too greedy - they won't ever come just close to Google's good reputation for untainted results. Microsoft stealthily places the 'paid results' in a manner so as to camouflage them and blend them in with the 'normal' hits. Then there's the cheezy ads and popups and generally skewed results nowhere near as relevant as Google's.

Try searching for scientology : Google's #2 and #4 hits goes to critics of that criminal organisation. MSN has operation clambake listed only as #6.

I know it makes for a good conspiracy theory, but there's nothing really nefarious here. Scientology is a relatively new term, so it only exists in the relatively new dictionaries, which want you to pay. To look up any word in the Webster's Millennium(TM) Dictionary of English would cost the same. It's not is if you can't find free information on Scientology.

This is the text of the rant which is attached to one of the tiles:

John Knight Ridder is the Philadelphia thug (?) hellion Jew XXXXX Hated this movements guts- for years- takes money from the Mafia to make the Mafia look good in his newspapers so he has the Mafia in his back pocket. John Knight sent the Mafia to murder me in May 1991 XXXXXXXXXX journalists XX then gloated to my face about death and Knight Ridder great power to destroy. In fact John Knight went into hellion since of joy over Knight-Ridder as great power to destroy.

I secured house with blast doors and fled the country in June 1991.

NBC attorneys journalists and security officials at Rockefeller Center fraudulently XXX the "Freedom of Information Act" all XXX orders NBC executives got the U.S. federal district attorney's office who got FBI to get Interpol to establish task force that located me in Dover England.

Which back home Inquirer got union goons from their own employees union to XXX down a "sports journalist." Who with ease bashed in lights and windows of neighborhood car- as well as men outside my house. They are stationed there still waiting for me.

NBC CBS group "W" Westinghouse, Time, Time Warner, Fox, Universal all of the "Cult of the Hellion" each one were Much worse than Knight-Ridder ever was mostly hellion Jews .

When K.Y.W. and NBC executives told John Knight the whole town gloated in joyous fits on how their Soviet pals found a way to turn it into a...

It's L. Ron Hubbard. Goto Xenu.net and read a little bit of OT III if you don't believe me. All it needs is some volcanoes and atomic bombs and it could be the high teachings of the Scientologists!

P.S.
I forgot to mention that Scientology was founded by Robert A. Heinlein. Robert A. Heinlein was one of the most famous SCIENCE FICTION AUTHORS ever. That's why the Xenu story sounds like bad science fiction - that's exactly what it is.

Long before he founded Scientology he was quoted as saying "the best way to become rich is to start your own religion".

For in-depth information on Scientology go here.

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• The Church of Scientology

If Operation Clambake were the #1 search hit, then it would be the result for the "I'm feeling lucky" button on google.

I can tell you first hand that this organization is evil. Now the people who are within it are generally well intentioned and sincerely believe that they are a part of something that is working to make the world a better place. This is part of what makes it so evil, it uses its own victims to perpetrate its crimes. Make no mistake, the primary victims of Scientology are its own members who are lied to at every turn and discouraged from seeking out or even looking at independent sources of information on the cult. Those like myself who get wise to the scam and leave are viciously attacked whenever we speak out against the cult and try to warn others of its evil. Of course you could say the same thing about any cult and even Amway for that matter. What makes scientology so bad is that unlike some scams that simply go after your money, scientology goes after your life. Scientology will bankrupt you, separate you from your family and friends, literally make you into a slave, and then cast you aside like yesterday's garbage once they've gotten everything they can out of you.

Scientology is essentially a mind control cult bent on world domination disguised as a religion. The only weapon that works against such an entity is the truth, and is it ever working. Scientology has gone from being something that most people think is strange, if they've ever heard of it to begin with, to something that most people despise or at least distrust. I have the deepest respect and admiration for those who have the courage to fight this organization. If even one person is saved from a life of misery it will have been worth it.

If anyone wants to know more about this organization, there is one place that should be able to answer your questions: Operation Clambake at www.xenu.net

A religion that has trade secrets is a little frightening. And if you believe even a fraction of what the Xenu people have to tell, it's more of a public service than anything else to expose the nonsense propaganda that this organization spreads.

So does Google. The second result for scientology is xenu.net. The first result for KaZaA Lite is kazaalitekpp.com. And the first eight results for a decss search are all pages offering the DeCSS code.

Banned because the followers of Xenu can't tolerate anyone stealing their shtick.

Ooops, non-fiction (above) should read fiction, sorry!

And yet another year passes in which they fail to acknowledge the wonderous story that is Battlefield:Earth.

There's only one "religion" (and yes, I use that term loosely) that I can think of that uses trade secrets. Remember them?

What I'm specifically talking about is this idea that IBM is covertly directing Redhat, Novell, etc. to go after SCO. The clincher for me was when McBride said that ESR was on IBM's payroll, that sounded like something that Heber Jentzsch might have said.

So, does the S in SCO stand for Scienology or are Mormons and Clams even more similar then I already believed?

Lee

I've mirrored some normal web content to Freenet . This freesite (only available if running Freenet) is a mirror of http://www.operatingthetan.com, my normal website on Keith Henson v. Scientology.

My major gripe with Freenet to this date is while it is marketed toward "weblike" applications, it often loses content more than a click or so in (note the front page of my freesite there works almost perfectly but if you click in the performance is significantly degraded).

I think its killer app might ultimately be the distribution of large 'splitfiles' with FEC encoding. I don't want to nuke Freenet right now by suggesting downloading huge pirate AVIs, but if you find one and try it, you'll see what I mean.

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http://buttersquash.net Home of the Buttersquash Conspiracy

Counterexample: There are thousands of Scientologists in the world. If you met many of them, they would seem to be reasonable people, credible, honest. Yet would you believe any of the tenets of the crackpot Scientology "religion" they would tell you if you asked? (and if you don't know how lunatic these teachings are, visit here or here).

Most reasonable people would answer no, they would not believe any of it. So just because a few thousand people make these claims does not make it so, regardless of their motives. You don't have to be seeking monetary reward to be gullible (as those thousands of Scientologists so adequately prove).

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