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Where Is Spam When You Want It?

Sean writes "In a complete twist to what everybody else is trying to do these days, I need to attract spam to an e-mail address for a research survey I am conducting. I have submitted a few articles to a handful of Usenet groups, and I have signed up to some general mailing lists but so far I have nothing to show for it. How come by personal account gets 100+ spam each day yet when I try to find it I get nothing? Where should I post my address so that it attracts spam?"

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  1. Outlook... by krray · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I ran an experiment to do just this... Originally USENET (a decade ago I did that one), web pages, etc... Hundreds of trap address' across many of the domains in my control -- harvest and block 'em early has been my general method... :)

    I recently took 1 Windows 2K box (SP2) and put it directly online in the DMZ type zone. Do NOT patch it and add no virus software. Load some trap address' (never used before) into the Outlook address book.

    It took twelve (12) minutes from plugging it in to getting many, many infections, to the final spam. Typical time is 3-4 hours usually and I've seen the test go for as long as 8 hours.

    How many people do you know that use Outlook and may have your email in their address book? The bitch of the matter? No Windows here anywhere, well, except for VirtualPC which makes such tests so damn easy -- too bad Microsoft had to buy them up too...

    1. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you do this, are you willing to be responsible if someone hijacks the machine and uses it to commit illegal/unethical acts? I know, it's unlikely that this would happen, but knowingly putting an open machine online with the intention of having it compromised is asking for trouble. It's one thing to not know any better, but it's another to be apathetic to the situation.

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    2. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've done it a half a dozen times now -- and yes, it was monitored and some-what controlled. At the routing level outbound traffic to obvious ports (21,22,23,25,53,80,110,143,443,etc) was throttled or blocked. Unfortunately some infections use mail or web ports to call home...

      A full tcpdump was also in progress (just watching :), logged, and looked through various ways. Honey-pot anyone?

    3. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By putting an "un-secure" box on-line you don't accept responsibility for actions taken by it (by others), otherwise all Windows users would be in a world of shit. If you leave a box of goodies outside your house, you may be asking for trouble, but you're not accepting responsibility for someone stealing it. So no, you're not responsible for other's actions, they are, don't be stupid.

    4. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      post on FFA's, pron/warez sites, anything **free** that just requires registration :)

      You should be all set. Oh and make sure you unsubscribe too. Any place where a harvester can get his hands on it.

    5. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      What in the blue hell is "address'" supposed to mean? If you are trying to pluralize the word "address" then you want to use the word "addresses." Christ Almighty, where the fuck did you go to school?

    6. Re:Outlook... by KrispyKringle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Isn't this (more or less) the point of a honeypot? Granted, the owners would presumably step in if they saw anything extremely dangerous going on, but this is fairly common,tried-and-true practice. Ever read _The Cuckoo's Egg_?

    7. Re:Outlook... by pVoid · · Score: 1
      Wrong: if I come to your house, and throw a rock at your neighbor's window from your balcony, and then run away... who do you think your neighbor is going to come looking for?

      Heck, why do you think Afghanistan was invaded? Do you think the 9/11 attacks were government funded??? Please don't answer that.

      On a side note, end users *are* responsible... It's just that nobody has bother going after them yet... maybe because it's just stupid. (Maybe the RIAA should learn of that too).

    8. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't think I'm calling for honeypot operators to be arrested for setting out some bait. I think it's fine. In fact, I think it's a good addition to a security infrastructure. But dropping something insecure out in the open with full knowledge that it will probably be compromised and then likely used for undesireable activities isn't responsible.

      Perhaps I should have made that point more clear initially.

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    9. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ethics and law are two entirely different (and sometimes diametrically opposed) things. It is not illegal to set out a machine to be compromised.

    10. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you leave a box of goodies outside your house, you may be asking for trouble, but you're not accepting responsibility for someone stealing it.

      Okay, let's talk about the box of goodies. Let's say you leave a box of weapons outside with full knowledge that a neighborhood kid will probably find it and will likely use the contents for something illegal. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?

      Before you jump all over me for such a hyperbole of an analogy, no, I don't equate running an insecure machine with handing out a small arsenal to the neighborhood kids. But I think you might be able to see my point given so many peoples' reactions of "What kind of parent leaves a gun where a kid can get it?" seemingly whenever a video game violence article is posted.

      Take note of the bold text in the first paragraph. It's key to my point. If that box of weapons was in a place that you could reasonably assume wouldn't be accessible by the hypothetical gunman, I wouldn't place any blame on you, the owner.

      So no, you're not responsible for other's actions, they are, don't be stupid.

      You're exactly right - you aren't responsible for others' actions. In this case, you'd be liable for your irresponsible action.

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    11. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ethics and law are two entirely different (and sometimes diametrically opposed) things.

      Very true.

      It is not illegal to set out a machine to be compromised.

      Perhaps not criminally illegal, but I believe the owner could certainly be held liable for damages. Imagine if a virus writer put a destructive virus on a stack of floppies and left them precariously around a public computer lab. When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    12. Re:Outlook... by TroyFoley · · Score: 1

      If I leave a loaded gun next to a crackhead, I may be responsible.

      However, computers are more along the lines of a general utility. A better analogy is leaving a car with the keys in the ignition to see how fast the crackhead hops in. If he immediately uses the car to purposely run someone over, well wow, bummer, but who knew?

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      After I have received the wisdom of good teaching, I will untiringly teach all people. - The Teachings of Buddha
    13. Re:Outlook... by GloomE · · Score: 2, Funny

      No. If you wander into a chemistry lab and out of curiosity suck down a random test tube..... is the Lab Manager responsible?

    14. Re:Outlook... by kd5ujz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, assuming there is no labeling, and with the legal system what it is, you could definitely be held liable. Ever wonder why there are warnings to not light fireworks while they are in your hand/mouth? In this day and age, you have to assume everyone is an idiot. If your server does not have a legal disclaimer, you may very well be liable.

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      -William
      God is everything science has yet to explain.
    15. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, right, like those warnings don't just encourage the kinds of people who would do that in the first place.

      If you put the disk in the computer lab with a label that says, "DO NOT PUT IN COMPUTER" you can be guaranteed that some ape would do just that.

    16. Re:Outlook... by GloomE · · Score: 2, Funny

      That would be an example of Darwinism. It's frustrating that we expend resources to reverse a system (survival of the survivable) that has benefitted us for so long. Our reality has changed somewhat from 40,000 years ago, but then so has what it means to be viable and what it take to survive. I don't see why a plaintif's terminal stupidity should be a good argument, although I'm sure it has been.

    17. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      the slashdot effect comes to your in box

    18. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand the point you're trying to make, but you picked the worst example ever. The Taliban were most definately part of it

    19. Re:Outlook... by pyite · · Score: 1

      We're forgetting that the vast majority of Windows users do just this. Except, their reason is ignorance, not research.

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      "Nature doesn't care how smart you are. You can still be wrong." - Richard Feynman

    20. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not uncommon to see that convention, it's certainly taught in a number of places. Not incorrect AFAICT. Of course, I am not an English Major or anything.

    21. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ahh... Acknowledged.

      -pVoid

    22. Re:Outlook... by redsilo · · Score: 1

      In this country and in this time a PI attorney will undoubtedly say that he is.

    23. Re:Outlook... by MrLint · · Score: 2, Interesting

      shall we extend this for a second to the nth degree and see if your analogy holds up. Lets say the person that sells these weapons to people and he knows (because of all the market studies ) that more than 50% of the people buying this 'box of weapons' leave it out for kids in the neighborhood to play with and do illegal things. Who is liable now?

    24. Re:Outlook... by GISGEOLOGYGEEK · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Funny Iraq wasn't part of it...
      despite 70% of the US believing that Iraq was involved with 9/11 (thanks to Dubya), now even he after the fact admits there was never any proof of a connection. Basically admitting that it was part of his manipulations... and I still see no WMD's.

      Being part of it was irrelevant. Dubya wanted 'a new Pearl Harbour' (his own words from before he was elected) to bring the country together. 9/11 was just a convenient coincidence for him. Why won't the US population hold him responsible the way you or I would be if we broke that window in the analogy?

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      George Bush + Linux = "I will not let information get in the way of the fight against Windows"
    25. Re:Outlook... by crapulent · · Score: 1

      Were those addresses that you put in the address book randomly created hotmail/yahoo (or any other popular free webmail) accounts? If so, I'm not surprised that they received spam within hours of being created. Spammers hammer the popular webmail servers with all sorts of permutations of letters and numbers, becuase with so many users they're likely to find enough addresses to make it worth their while. It doesn't mean that the infected machine had anything to do with it.

      If you really wanted to prove something with your experiment, you need a control group. Pick to random strings and create those accounts on hotmail/yahoo/whatever. Then add one of them to the address book but keep the other completely secret. If the one you added to the address book truly gets significantly more spam then I'd be impressed by your experiment. Otherwise, it's unsubstantiated and unscientific.

      Alternatively, you could create these new addresses on an obscure domain name that's not likely to be subject of a dictionary attack... If that was what you did then I'd also believe the findings.

    26. Re:Outlook... by RumpRoast · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IANAL, but I don't think that ignorance of a law is a defense at all. If "putting an open machine online with the intention of having it compromised" were illegal, it wouldn't matter if you were negligent, ignorant, or had alterior motives: you would still be guilty.

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    27. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's all well and good, but any patch from Microsoft is
      bound to contain unwanted digital cockroaches that will
      add unknown and unwanted backdoors for dishonest
      businesses and government people to plant or remove
      files or implement 'digital 'wrongs' management' without
      my open knowledge and consent.
      I will not let the wolf in the back door just because he
      lies about the bogeyman at the front door.

    28. Re:Outlook... by circusnews · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I was about to use one of my mod points in this thread, when I came to this post.
      Okay, let's talk about the box of goodies. Let's say you leave a box of weapons outside with full knowledge that a neighborhood kid will probably find it and will likely use the contents for something illegal. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?
      dboyles goes on to make the point that does not equate running an insecure machine with handing out a small arsenal, and that you aren't responsible for others' actions, you are only liable for your irresponsible action. These are both points I agree with, but the analagy used still bothers me.

      Gun's are designed to kill. Computers are not designed for cracking/spaming/etc. If you leave a chain saw out in your back yard, knowing that the kid down the block is (1) a bit whacked, (2) could be a potential danger, and (3) should not be on your property, are you partially responcible for when he kills some one with that chain saw? Now, what if it is the kid on the next block that could be the danger? Or the next city, county state of country? At what point is it no longer reasonable to expect that the public to know something is a threat?

      It used to be enough to run a virus scanner every so often. Now you have to start by patching your systems regularly, then move on to running regularly updated virus scanners, installing and updating firewalls for the network, scanning for spyware, installing and updating desktop firewalls, updating spam filters, chasing drivers, updating applications (add more from the endless list here), all to keep a system going. So I ask again, at what point is it no longer reasonable to expect that the public will know something is or could be a threat?

      And at what point does the public feel that it is no longer reasonable to expect them to know something is or could be a threat when it comes to that "harmless little box on the desk"?

    29. Re:Outlook... by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?

      This scenario is good, but let me share one from my highschool days:

      Our computer science department ran on a bunch of old MSDOS computers with no built-in virus scanning (if a computer was behaving oddly, the teacher would come around and boot from an antivirus floppy, and it would be all better). In those days, the popular viruses all spread via floppy boot sectors. Because of this, nearly every floppy anyone used at school was infected with the virus.

      So, if I forgot my floppy in the computer and someone else rebooted the machine, is it my fault if that computer gets the virus? What if the computer already had the virus?

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    30. Re:Outlook... by Ymerej · · Score: 2, Informative

      Okay, let's talk about the box of goodies. Let's say you leave a box of weapons outside with full knowledge that a neighborhood kid will probably find it and will likely use the contents for something illegal. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?

      ...

      You're exactly right - you aren't responsible for others' actions. In this case, you'd be liable for your irresponsible action.


      Yes, that's exactly right. This is what's known as an attractive nuisance

    31. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No totally wrong, and your example is totally off the mark.
      In your example, Mr. Guy himself was in possession of dangerous material, and was negligent in its safekeeping. The person finding the disk would not knowingly be breaking the law.
      Someone breaking into your computer and using it for EVIL.. well, that would be akin to you leaving the keys in your car and leaving your car unlocked. You MIGHT be slightly liable, but whoever stole your car and ran into that kid -- THEY broke the law. If they hadn't broke the law then none of your property would ahve been involved in legal wrongdoing.

    32. Re:Outlook... by digidave · · Score: 5, Funny

      Knowlingly install a system from the manufacturer's CD and running it on the Internet? The horror! The horror!

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    33. Re:Outlook... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2, Interesting
      "How many people do you know that use Outlook and may have your email in their address book? The bitch of the matter?"

      There is an easy defence against this:

      Let's say your real address is your.name@yourISP.com. Tou need to first set up a sneakemail address. Use this address as the 'from' address in your e-mails. Then set up your 'name' as "Your Name [your.name-at-yourISP-dot-com]." This way, the sneakemail address (which can be changed whenever spam comes in) will appear in lusers' outlook address books, and clueful people will just copy the real address from the 'Name' field.

    34. Re:Outlook... by racermd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, if it's a honeypot, it is probably monitored at least somewhat regularly. If it ever does become a problem, someone would be able to pull the plug on the machine, both logically and physically, in pretty short order. Yes, 10 minutes is enough time for someone to do some serious damage with and/or to a compromised system. But a close eye on things should keep the damage to minimum.

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    35. Re:Outlook... by lone_marauder · · Score: 1

      Before you jump all over me for such a hyperbole of an analogy, no, I don't equate running an insecure machine with handing out a small arsenal to the neighborhood kids.

      Agreed. Your analogy is a little more like parking a Ford Pinto in front of your house to see if it will blow up. In this context, it is much easier to determine the difference between misusing something and using something which is manifestly unsafe (Microsoft Outlook)

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    36. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The creator of the nuclear weapon didn't pull the trigger, but by your argument is somewhat liable for killing millions of Japanese. Aren't we, the scientists, just doing experiments?

    37. Re:Outlook... by zbuffered · · Score: 2, Informative

      "How many people do you know that use Outlook and may have your email in their address book? The bitch of the matter?"
      There is an easy defence against this: ... bla bla sneakemail bla bla

      That works just fine, but it gets even easier:
      Own your own domain.
      Have your e-mail setup to forward *@yourdomain.com to your actual e-mail address.
      Never give anyone your e-mail address. Give everybody different e-mail addresses to e-mail you at. Your friend jenny can e-mail you at jenny@yourdomain or whatever she'd like.
      When you sign up for something, use an e-mail address like theirproduct@yourdomain or theirdomain.com@yourdomain.
      Then you always know who's sending you what e-mail, and if one of the aliases gets bogged down with spam, flag it, bounce it, do as you will.

      I bought my domain for $30 for 2 years, including the mail service (I don't have the resources to set up my own mail server). It works great and I don't get any spam.

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    38. Re:Outlook... by enomar · · Score: 1

      Do you think the 9/11 attacks were government funded???

      Which government? Ours or theirs?

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    39. Re:Outlook... by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think you are entirely wrong in your suggestion that honeypots are irresponsible. Honeypots provide a way to track and monitor the latest exploits and hackers. In fact if a hacker uses a honeypot in his activites he is much more likely to be tracked and caught because he hacked a logged and monitored machine.

    40. Re:Outlook... by MegaHamsterX · · Score: 1

      But dropping something insecure out in the open with full knowledge that it will probably be compromised and then likely used for undesireable activities isn't responsible.

      I think we should start with Dell, HPCompaq, Gateway and a host of clueless system integrators before we start attacking/sueing/whatever people doing it for research purposes.

      Mom and Pop on the new DSL connection with no firewall,antivirus,monitoring and getting the fun we want more money message from symantec is enough for many people to not care. What does the average casual internet user have to lose by doing nothing?

    41. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now now my fellowcountryman, Dubya did not say those words. It was the Project for a New American Century that wrote that little phrase that the media does not need to bring to our attention. Although I will grant you that pnac basically == gwb.

    42. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Theirs. But as a reply already pointed out, the example was bad.

      PS. It's yours or theirs. I ain't no American.

      -pVoid

    43. Re:Outlook... by Splab · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That would be the US. Here in Denmark a case like "There wasnt any warning on my firecracker GIMMIE MONEY" would be thrown out faster than the fuse on said item.

    44. Re:Outlook... by lukew · · Score: 1

      Shit dude, you going for a record?

      Re:Outlook... Sunday September 21, @07:45PM Replies:6 Score:5, Insightful
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    45. Re:Outlook... by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Informative

      The creator of the nuclear weapon didn't pull the trigger, but by your argument is somewhat liable for killing millions of Japanese. Aren't we, the scientists, just doing experiments?

      Einstein didn't think so. He was a major influence in the creation of the nuclear bomb, and he did take responsibility for it, calling it the greatest mistake of his life.

      http://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein.shtml#fir st

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    46. Re:Outlook... by danila · · Score: 1

      This is a wrong analogy. I can illustrate this with one just as bad. ;) Let's say you leave a parked car without immobiliser and 1000$ lock outside - just with the simple lock that came preinstalled, with full knowledge that one of the millions of people who live in the same city might decide to break into your car (if not in one of thousands of other poorly protected cars) and run someone over or use the car for bank robbery. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?

      I certainly don't think so. :) We can conclude that when you leave something, which might potentially be used for something illegal, your normal reaction to that should range from "Yeah. So what?" to "Oh! My bad!" I believe we can successfully argue that for leaving unprotected computer on the Net it should be closer to the former.

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    47. Re:Outlook... by davesag · · Score: 1

      well to continue your analogy, I'd be pretty horrified if my neighbour, and her mates, reduced my house to rubble, and then handed control of my land over to some local street thugs who then started growing opium on it, raping me, my wife and kids, and banning any women/girls in what remains of the house from going to school.

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    48. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Coincidence.

      One which resulted in the Patriot Act, which gave law enforcement previously illegal means of enforcement, which they had been trying to get for decades.

      Yeah. Coincidence.

    49. Re:Outlook... by wirde · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. Aren't honeypots illegal (or in the process of being made illegal)?

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    50. Re:Outlook... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2, Funny
      He could always blame it on the kids watching "War Games"...

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    51. Re:Outlook... by ^Case^ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Isn't this (more or less) the point of a honeypot?

      More or less yes. The major difference is that with a honeypot you make sure that there's only a way in -- you make it impossible for the offender to use the honeypot to carry on attacks from the honeypot. And that does not seem to be the case in this example.

    52. Re:Outlook... by Gossy · · Score: 1

      It is not illegal to set out a machine to be compromised.

      Perhaps not criminally illegal, but I believe the owner could certainly be held liable for damages. Imagine if a virus writer put a destructive virus on a stack of floppies and left them precariously around a public computer lab. When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?


      Not really the same thing though, is it? To compromise a machine requires you to break the law, no matter how insecure it is. While some may not have much sympathy for people running insecure systems when they're compromised, the person who did it still broke the law.

      A better analogy would be if a virus writer left a stack of floppies in his car, someone broke into his car and used them.

      Then again, in the legal climate these days, the virus author would probably still get done for it - you can still sometimes be liable for tresspassers hurting themselves on your property, for exmaple.
    53. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You guys are lucky. The Jews have our legal system so completely fucked up that total morons can do anything and sue, and probably win.

    54. Re:Outlook... by MickLinux · · Score: 1

      I think it isn't quite so cut and dried as that. To me, it's more along the lines of, "Everyone has knives. Suppose it was common for a certain class of criminals to steal peoples' knives, use them in a crime, and then return them, often in such a way that the original owner never knew."

      Suppose someone else, just to test a hypothetical line of reasoning, then puts a knife in an enclosed (but not locked) porch, and sets a hidden camera watching it, and determines that the knife get's stolen, on average, after 3 hours.

      Was that an irresponsible action?

      I'd be inclined to argue that the answer is no. There are so many unsecured computers out there, that the addition of one unsecured computer for a limited amount of time is not going to make a difference to any of the criminals. Their "knife gathering" is automatic.

      However, if by demonstrating this, one thinks that one can contribute to a solution to the problem, then the value of that data might possibly exceed the culpability of the test.

      Now, where the problem involved direct loss of human life, I'd probably come down on the side of "don't leave your knife out." But where it's just financial or time, I'm probably going to come down on the side of "Why not try it, and see what you find out" *if* you have already thought out a reasonable plan.

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    55. Re:Outlook... by pfharlock · · Score: 1

      Your an idiot, the situation your describing would mean holding the people who pick up the disks and unwittingly put them in the machines liable for the viruswriters actions. Exactly who is it that's going to enforce this wonderful rule you've concocted anyway? The Police, the FBI, the center for terrorist activities, oh great, that sounds like a perfectly reasonable solution. Why don't you hold yourself responsible for making dumb suggestions, how's that?

    56. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could hardly put it online with the intention of having it compromised if you were ignorant of the risks, now could you?
      Which leaves us making it illegal to put a machine online unless you really know what you're doing. Tempting, but I can't see it happening somehow...

    57. Re:Outlook... by DeeKay · · Score: 1

      Well, how "responsible" was it by Microsoft in the first place to actually make an OS as "holey" as this?

      Have they patched the latest IE "Let's-run-any-program" vuln yet? How about those 2 rootexploits from last week?

      When exactly does it get "responsible" to put a Windows-Box onto the net? i'm most anxious to learn!

    58. Re:Outlook... by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      Gun's are designed to kill. Computers are not designed for cracking/spaming/etc. If you leave a chain saw out in your back yard, knowing that the kid down the block is (1) a bit whacked, (2) could be a potential danger, and (3) should not be on your property, are you partially responcible for when he kills some one with that chain saw? Now, what if it is the kid on the next block that could be the danger? Or the next city, county state of country? At what point is it no longer reasonable to expect that the public to know something is a threat?

      First, point: Yes, computers are designed to Spam, crack etc... these are all within normal parameters of what a computer can do. I believe what you meant is that they are not built with the intentions of facilitating spammers etc... Guns also are not "intended" to rob grocers.
      Next point: How far does the liability go? Well, first the internet is globally connected. A server in singapore is only about 300 ms further than one in LA, so distance is irrelevant. What is relevant is the knowledge of the person leaving the device out in the open. An emergency room surgeon probably has a different opinion of people who leave chainsaws in the open than your neighbor would (unless he is an ER surgeon :-) The same goes for the PC in the open. As a responsible Sysadmin, you KNOW what an infected and hijacked PC can do so it is more irresponsible than the local plumber plugging his PC straight into his unfiltered DSL.

      The above post is my "moral" take on the issue. I have no idea what the law says on this and do not want people to think I am giving legal advice.

    59. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the nebours kid gets it by taking a shotgun and smashing down your door. Goes in and grabs all your firearms, and then sits in your window and then go on a rampage shooting street.

      If you did know that he would, would it still be your fault? Or is it this kids responsibility cause he actualy brokein to your home, and used it as a fortress?

    60. Re:Outlook... by comIcon · · Score: 1

      simply use the microsoft newsgroup - works very well for spam!

      http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/defaul t.asp?icp=Germany_PSS_Pub&slcid=de

      you can even be found by google ;-)

      enjoy getting spammed

      comIcon

    61. Re:Outlook... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "Own your own domain. Have your e-mail setup to forward *@yourdomain.com to your actual e-mail address. Never give anyone your e-mail address. Give everybody different e-mail addresses to e-mail you at. Your friend jenny can e-mail you at jenny@yourdomain or whatever she'd like. When you sign up for something, use an e-mail address like theirproduct@yourdomain or theirdomain.com@yourdomain."

      This is almost exactly what I do. (I put the sneakemail into my plan above as opposed to owning the domain because sneakemail can be $free, so the plan is accessible to more people.) But yes, I certainly use different referrers for different services, but for just conversing with people it's too bothersome to use a different alias for every single one. You have to remember to use the appropriate 'from' address with every e-mail. This is why I use a 'general' return-address for this case.

    62. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps not criminally illegal, but I believe the owner could certainly be held liable for damages. Imagine if a virus writer put a destructive virus on a stack of floppies and left them precariously around a public computer lab. When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?

      Not at all. It's the curious person's fault for taking something that didn't belong to them, and then using it incorrectly. If you don't know any better than to steal other people's stuff and run any executable you can find, then it's nobody's fault but yours.

    63. Re:Outlook... by profplump · · Score: 1

      No.

      In fact, I believe that this sort of attitude is a large part of the problem with our modern use of civil law -- I wrote code and made no attempt to conceal its operation. You ran it, with no apparent regard for its function. How could it possibly be my fault that my code doesn't do what you thought it might?

      So my code erased your hard drive. Who's to say that it wasn't legitimately a new, scripted version of fdisk? Your misunderstanding of its intended function is hardly my responsibility.

    64. Re:Outlook... by circusnews · · Score: 1
      What is relevant is the knowledge of the person leaving the device out in the open. ...As a responsible Sysadmin, you KNOW what an infected and hijacked PC can do so it is more irresponsible than the local plumber plugging his PC straight into his unfiltered DSL.
      Again I ask, at what point is it no longer reasonable to expect that the public to know something is a threat? The above post is my "moral" take on the issue. I have no idea what the law says on this and do not want people to think I am giving legal advice.
    65. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just FYI -- yes there was control email address' created at the same time, but not placed anywhere. Those not placed in Outlook are _still_ spam free.

      This wasn't done on AOL, Earthlink, or Hotmail -- it was all done through my own domain...

    66. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody's Perfect.

    67. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oferchrissakes. There's a bajillion unsecured windows boxes on the net right now as we speak. You're suggesting it's somehow immoral for me to add another to collect data on how unsecured boxes are used?

      get real. I hope you're at least a vegetarian with no car who gives a minimum of 20 per cent of his income to the 99% of the world who is poorer than the average American, and that you recycle all your trash and have a compost. Otherwise I call hypocrite.

    68. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you just described about a few million home PC users running WinOS :-)

    69. Re:Outlook... by KrispyKringle · · Score: 1

      No. There was some talk--stemming, apparently, from this InFocus article on SecurityFocus--that a few federal laws, most of which were not intended to apply in this case or in anything similar to this case. There is no active movement, as far as I know, among out legislators to illegalize honeypots; rather, the question was whether other laws may unintentionally make honeypots illegal, the feeling being that attackers caught by such a honeypot might in turn sue their captors.

    70. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gun's are designed to kill.

      Gun's aren't designed to kill. That's the bullets job.

    71. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it is really only the job of a thin layer of atoms at the front of the bullet. The rest are just along for the ride.

    72. Re:Outlook... by vpetersen · · Score: 1

      There are too many threads/messages in this discussion for me to find out if anyone has suggested this already.. Anyway, search on Google for spammers' unsubscription front ends on the web and "unsubscribe" this address by entering it into the form, even if this address was just created. The amount of junk that will follow soon afterwards will make you glad that this is a throw out address created just for testing. Kind of beats looking for friends with unprotected Outlook address books or other vulnerabilities and waiting for the address to be picked up eventually.

    73. Re:Outlook... by Syberghost · · Score: 1

      If you do this, are you willing to be responsible if someone hijacks the machine and uses it to commit illegal/unethical acts? I know, it's unlikely that this would happen,

      If by "unlikely" you mean "a matter of hours at most", then you're correct.

      Spamworms already exist, and Code Red will be doing illegal and unethical acts from your machine probably within minutes if you have and unpatched IIS up.

    74. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Post a derogatory remark about Muslims, how they were treated by Lt Pershing in the early 1900's, being buried with hog entrails,etc - post to a muslim on line newspaper = such as :islamweb.com or :islamonline.net every radical muslim on earth has a computer.. you will get many hits, mostly trying to get you a virus. Good Luck

    75. Re:Outlook... by bob_calder · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Finally a sane response.

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    76. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you could almost argue that _not_ using honeypots would be an irresponsible example of neglect.

    77. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Cute, but a blatant rip-off of Woody Allen =)

      -pVoid

    78. Re:Outlook... by barakn · · Score: 1

      Blatant racist statement in parent, and it hasn't been modded Troll or Flamebait?

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  2. Don't know by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 1

    But why don't you just use your personal email address in that case?

    1. Re:Don't know by Blkdeath · · Score: 1
      But why don't you just use your personal email address in that case?

      Because it would taint the experiment, I'd wager.

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  3. Hotmail. by pi_rules · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sign up for an account there, forward the spam to your new mailbox and start following links to advertisements and such. If they ask for your email address, give it to them. Won't take long.

    1. Re:Hotmail. by norsk_hedensk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      yeah but if they ask for you email address and you give it to them, it is not spam anymore. spam is unsolicited. you giving them your email says that they can email you. unless they say they WONT send spam, but yeah, thats gonna happen.

    2. Re:Hotmail. by napoleonin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know where Hotmail gets such a bad reputation from. I've had the same account there for 5+ years, and I get hardly any spam at all (5-10 spam messages per day).

    3. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i signed up with hotmail not giving my adress to anyone but my girlfriend. since day one i've been receiving spam...that's why the bad reputation.

    4. Re:Hotmail. by caferace · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe your girlfriend is pretty serious about you getting a penis enlargement and some viagra. Ever think about that, smart guy?

    5. Re:Hotmail. by NaCl · · Score: 1

      I got a hotmail account a few days ago. Now i got 50 spams per day. Yes, 50. How's that possible?

      I have other 2 webmail accounts, from Yahoo, for years. No spams at all for one and like 2 or 3 for the other, since that's the one I use for everything not personal.

      Maybe I'm paranoid, but I can't stop thinking that's MS fault!

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    6. Re:Hotmail. by ShayUK · · Score: 1

      Or to maintain your 'unsolicited mail' status, just follow all the 'click here to unsubscribe' links. I get the feeling spammers would rather confirm your address this way than have you give it to them freely.

      I have a lot of friends who still think that following an unsubscribe link is going to stop the spam... and then wonder why they're getting more than ever!

      Another good option is using discussion boards, guestbooks and the like on websites. These seem to be a great way of spreading the joy of your e-mail address to all and sundry.

    7. Re:Hotmail. by Zomboy · · Score: 1

      Post it on ezboard. I was an idiot and posted my e-mail addy there and it was harvested in about 6 hours. Hadn't used it anywhere else, and had been spam free before that. Might want to try putting it in a blog too.

    8. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My girlfriend had a hotmail account for the last 5 years or so. She gets at least 50 spam a day.

    9. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I used to have a hotmail address that would get bombed with over 25 emails a day. Then just recently i stumbled on a free service called shadango.com. It uses Spamassassin(which so far has worked remarkably better then hotmail's filtering) and it allows me to check multiple addresses all from the same interface. I don't know if services like this are the answer to the spam problem but it's definitely worth checking out.

    10. Re:Hotmail. by masonc · · Score: 1

      Answer one of the spams that offers you somehting for free. I tried this as a test, I was offered 50 freed CDRs. I went to the site, filled in many pages of offers I didn't want, using a test address.
      I never got the end of the questions, it was, well, endless, but minutes afterwards I got tons of spams.
      After three days of crap I blocked the address.

      The other think is to post to googlegroups with a real address, you will be inundated.
      Chris

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    11. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big problem with hotmail is probably the automatic desactivation of email accounts.

      I began to get spam the first day I registered one , before I gave my address to anyone.

      I was probably given the address of someone else who just ceased to use the service. At least it's the only reason I can see.

      With the importance of their service, one domain name is clearly insuffisant. They are too short of names@hotmail.com and the same addresses get reregistered too quickly.

    12. Re:Hotmail. by jonadab · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Maybe I'm paranoid, but I can't stop thinking that's MS fault!

      It's been a couple of years, and their EULA has probably changed two
      dozen times ad interim, but when I actually read Microsoft's privacy
      policy, it essentially said, in heavy verbiage, "we will sell your
      address to whomever will pay for it". By heavy verbiage, I mean
      something of the form, "may share said contact information with
      select business partners in order to provide value-added services"
      or some such rot. If your eyes glaze over at the first hint of
      weaselese, you wouldn't catch it, but it seemed pretty clear to me
      that they were saying they would sell my address. Maybe I'm just
      paranoid, though. After all, Microsoft is a very reputable company,
      as everyone here knows, and so maybe I'm just not giving them enough
      benefit of the doubt in my poor understanding of EULA verbiage.

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    13. Re:Hotmail. by obotics · · Score: 1

      My Hotmail account is full (100% space capacity) of spam within one day. Needless to say, I got a new account (with Yahoo!).

    14. Re:Hotmail. by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 1

      You're close, but that's not the whole problem, IMO.

      What happens much more frequently is an AOL or somesuch email address is harvested in a traditional manner, then the same address at Hotmail gets spammed. For example, if jsmith@aol.com is a real email box, then it's usually a safe bet for spammers that jsmith@hotmail.com is active as well. They just have a whole list of likely email account names, which they apply to different domains.

    15. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I signed up for a Hotmail account, just to have a dead-end e-mail address. The first time I logged in, there were two messages sitting in my inbox:
      #1: welcome to hotmail from msn
      #2: a nice fat spam message

      Interesting thing was: I hadn't used the account in any way yet. Only a few minutes had passed since I created it.

      Give it a try and see what happens!

      And no, I did not agree to receive any materials or such when signing up for the account.

      My conclusion: Hotmail itself handed my address out to some spammer.

    16. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you should have just "coincidently" put the e-mail out here, hundreds of people would gladly send you their spam. then it could still be considered spam because your not submitting it to any data base, and even if you got accused of submitting it to slashdot they couldn't prove it because none of it would have be sent from them. besides, slashdot promises to not spam.

    17. Re:Hotmail. by danila · · Score: 1

      You give the e-mail once, you get spam from tens or even hundreds of unrelated sites. Good examples would be "Teens-In-Mail" or "Free porn, no credit card needed". You give the e-mail and you get spammed almost instantly.

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    18. Re:Hotmail. by Hoser+McMoose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hotmail gets a bad reputation because it is attacked FAR more than any other mail server out there, with the possible exception of AOL. The problems with Hotmail are two-fold:

      1. There are so many users of hotmail that you can easily end up with a previously used address (so even if you never give out your e-mail address, the previous owner of that address may have signed up to all sorts of crap). What's more, anytime someone puts out their hotmail address with a minor typo (either intentionally or accidentaly), it is usually a real address belonging to someone else.

      2. Hotmail is CONSTANTLY being dictionary-probed by spammers. They have been subjected to this sort of dictionary-probe attack for over a year now. This is especially a problem for people with short (6 characters or less) usernames. If you have a username that is in any way related to a word or name and is fairly short, you will be probed.

      Another major problem with Hotmail is that until recently it always opened all remote "images" by default. Almost all spam now comes with a "tracking image", which is just an HTML "IMG" url that points to a script to record your e-mail address. End result, if you open the message, the spammers know they have a live address even if you don't click on anything. Hotmail now has the option to disable remote image loading, though I don't know if it's turned on by default or not.

    19. Re:Hotmail. by vidnet · · Score: 1

      They generally don`t ask for your email address for further info, they ask for your email to unsubscribe.

    20. Re:Hotmail. by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      yeah but if they ask for you email address and you give it to them, it is not spam anymore.

      Click on the links that say "To remove yourself from this list...." That seems sure to get you spammed.

    21. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heck, I don't need to sign anything. Create the Hotmail account, and voila! Spam flowing. But if you want my advice, clicking in the "remove" link on spams is a lot more efetive to getting more spam, than giving your email to them in forms.

      If you provide your email, it can be a valid one or not, but if you click on the "remove" link, then they will be pretty sure that the email is hot, and it will be shared immediately as an "alive" target.

    22. Re:Hotmail. by norsk_hedensk · · Score: 1

      well of course, that IS spam. if you didnt ask for it, or asked for it to stop and still recieve it-- then yes that is spam.

    23. Re:Hotmail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spammers use screen scraping on the hotmail directory search to leech email addresses. It's that simple. Anyone who reads slashdot could write an app to do this in an hour tops.

  4. Some options... by mgcsinc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Register with every "reputable" company with a "privacy policy" you can find, and make purchases with them. Register a domain with the addy. Put the addy on tons of those little fill out cards that you have to mail in from magazines for free this, free that. Buy subscriptions to tons of Pr0n sites with the addy. Instead of usenet, post on several pay or exclusive product-support forums, where spam-runners can be assured of sure-fire hits. Damn! It's expensive to acquire SPAM!

    1. Re:Some options... by dontbgay · · Score: 1

      I know it sounds HORRIBLE but it's so crazy, it might just work. Find someone with an AoL account. Hit one of the Lobby chatrooms and you're in there like swimwear. Hope this helps! cheers!

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    2. Re:Some options... by jakupovic · · Score: 1

      Damn! It's expensive to acquire SPAM!

      This could actually be true, since the spammers would like to get ahold of people who gave money to spend, and not some broke college kids.

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    3. Re:Some options... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We've actually opted out from a company's spam, who claimed they would not disclose my Email address in their Privacy policy.

      I gave them a special "honeypor" Email address, which I can specifically track back to them (using a little SendMail magic).

      Sure enough, I got spam as a result, and am exploring my legal options.

      Only problem is of course finding them. Everywhere I go to look, I get denials.

      And of course the spammers hide behind the privacy policys.

  5. Truly successful method by Snags · · Score: 1

    If you really want to get spam, just sign up for a few "free" porn web sites. That should do it fairly quickly.

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  6. Post it here by dhawton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Me as well as other slashdotters will send you some of ours. We don't want it (I hope).

    1. Re:Post it here by SB5 · · Score: 1

      Just imagine... A Slashdot effect spamming this poor soul to the point of having a Beowulf Cluster won't save his mailbox...

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    2. Re:Post it here by RDFozz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, this is not necessarily a bad solution, and could provide a useful experiment.

      Get spam sent to other people with "opt-out" instructions. The common wisdom has it that a significant number of the opt-out deals really verify your address for spammers. Try asking for your e-mail address to be removed (even though it's not really there), and see what happens....

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    3. Re:Post it here by jrockway · · Score: 1

      My address is unobfuscated and I don't get that much spam. I see none, thanks to spamassassin, but every 3 days or so my =spam box only has about 50 mails. Not bad.

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  7. usenet isnt that great by Shaklee39 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try signing up for a few mailing lists for marketers. Usually they will sell these to other companies who will in turn sell it to other companies and so on. Most email addresses are not spammed by having it available on google but rather giving it to the companies that do the spamming.

    1. Re:usenet isnt that great by j_snare · · Score: 1

      We all get those e-mails wanting to sell e-mail lists. Why not just e-mail them with a message that says something like:

      "Would you mind taking me off of those lists of yours? I'm always falling for scams, so I've already lost a lot of money to people on these lists!"

  8. Domain registry by jhines · · Score: 4, Informative

    I get spam from my domain registry, which has an email associated with it. I get the Nigerian stuff this way.

    1. Re:Domain registry by dboyles · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amazing. Even after you made your millions from underground African money transfers, you still find time to post to Slashdot. What character! I can see why Igwe Emanuel thought you good enough to do business with.

      I, on the other hand, will be out of here as soon as the transaction is complete. So long, suckers!

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    2. Re:Domain registry by YetAnotherDave · · Score: 1

      I needed more spam to feed my bayesian for spamassassin, so I made a trap account and posted it in a bunch of newsgroups where I didn't care if I pissed the regular readers off (alt.'music'.brittneyspears for example)

      10-15/day...

    3. Re:Domain registry by superf1y · · Score: 1

      Absolutely.

      NSI et al are the biggest @%^$^%$! in regard to spam.

      __All__ of my spam traces back to addresses ONLY found in NSI's database. (with the exception of spam addressed to generic (i.e. postmaster@domain.com) entities at my domains).

      I could beat them all day long with a really big stick, and I still wouldn't be satisfied. Or bored.

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    4. Re:Domain registry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's Immanuel Egwe, you insensitive clod

    5. Re:Domain registry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DEAR FRIEND,

      YOU DO NOT KNOW ME, BUT MY NAME IS JON OSWAMBO NDA OF THE MICROSOFT
      INTERNATIONAL SECURETY [sic] OPERATIONS, LAGOS NIGERIA. I HAVE BEEN
      AUTHORIZED TO YOU IN SENDING A SPECIAL PATCH FILE TO FIX URGENT
      SECURITY ISSUES ON YOUR WINDOW COMPUTER. MR BILL GATE HAS PERSONALLY
      GIVEN ME RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ONLINE SAFETY, AND IT IS WITH GREAT
      URGENCY THAT I MUST CONTACT YOU. EVERY DAY YOU ARE AT GREAT RISK IF
      YOU DO NOT REPLY, SO REPLY IN HASTE. HOWEVER, THERE IS MORE TO THIS
      THAN I HAVE TOLD THUSFAR. IN 1999 MICORSOFT CORPORATION HAD DONATED
      A SUM OF US TWENTY-FOUR MILLION [$24,000,000] TO LAGOS MINISTRY OF
      EDUCATION, WHICH WOULD BE USED TO BUILD NEW SCHOOLS. HOWEVER, IN
      THE ENSUING CIVIL UNREST, THE PROJECT WAS FORGOTTEN, AND THE MONEY
      WAITS IN A SPECIAL ACCOUNT THAT ONLY I HAVE ACCESS TO. I HAVE NOT
      BEEN ABLE TO CONTACT MR GATE OF LATE AND I FEAR FOR MY SAFETY AS I
      HAVE DECIDED I MUST LEAVE THIS PLACE SOON. HOWEVER AS OF OUR LAST
      SPEAKING, MR GATE AND I HAVE DECIDED IN SECRET TO TRANSFER THE
      FUNDS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND BACK TO HIS COMPANY MICORSOFT CORP.
      MR GATE DOES NOT WISH THIS TRANSACTION TO BECOME KNOWN TO THE
      PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRIES, SO HE HAS AUTHORIZED ME TO USE A THIRD PARTY
      IN THE UNITED STATES TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS. I HAVE CONTACTED YOU
      DEAR FRIEND BECAUSE I NEED SOMEONE WHO I CAN TRUST. WHAT YOU MUST DO
      IS BUY MICORSOFT MONEY PROGRAM AND INSTALL IT ON YOUR PC. THEN ENTER
      YOUR ACCOUNT INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE ACCOUNT YOU WISH TO USE IN
      RECEIPT OF THESE FUNDS. THEN YOU MUST RUN THE PATCH FILE WHICH I
      HAVE SENT YOU. YOUR COMPUTER WILL BE FIXED AT THAT TIME. LEAVE YOUR
      COMPUTER CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET FOR THE NEXT FIVE [5] BUSINESS
      DAYS, AND I WILL QUIETLY TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO YOUR ACCOUNT. WHEN
      THE TRANSACTION IS COMPLETE, I WILL SEND YOU ANOTHER MESSAGE TO
      INFORM YOU OF THIS. YOU WILL RECEIVE 20 PERCENT OF THE FUNDS, OR A
      SUM OF FOUR MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND [$4,800,000] US DOLLARS,
      INCLUDING THE COST OF THE MICORSOFT MONEY PROGRAM. I WILL RECEIVE
      10 PERCENT FOR MY SERVICES, AND MR GATE WILL CONTACT YOU WITHIN
      SIXTY [60] DAYS TO ARRANGE FOR HIS REMAINDER OF THE FUNDS. PLEASE
      TAKE ACTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SINCE I FEAR FOR MY SAFETY, AND
      THE FUNDS WILL SURELY BE SEIZED SOON. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

    6. Re:Domain registry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking funniest comment ever. Nice work.

    7. Re:Domain registry by WickedClean · · Score: 1

      I changed the email address posted on of my websites, and within 12 hours had 3 different nigerian scam emails. THREE! Those phuckers work quick, I tell you.

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    8. Re:Domain registry by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      I've been getting Nigerian scam letters via snail mail recently. Nigerian stamp and all. Only to my domain contact address though...

    9. Re:Domain registry by DrinkDr.Pepper · · Score: 1

      That's Prince Immanu Elegwe, you insensitive clod!

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  9. Why not by Alystair · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want spam? You should have put in your email address into the submitted article...

    1. Re:Why not by shird · · Score: 1

      No, that would be a bad idea. Spammers use their own blacklists to filter their mailing lists. They don't want to send spam to anti-spam vigilantes or *@ftc.gov etc. They also filter for things like 'nospam' etc and 'wash' their lists as its called.

      If they see that e-mail address posted as being for research purposes rather than genuine, you can bet they will add it to their 'wash' list.

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    2. Re:Why not by kdsolutions · · Score: 0

      hrmm... no character to represent "spam"... ok... now $==spam.

      Would you call that the "$. effect"?

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    3. Re:Why not by bpiltz · · Score: 1

      If you really want spam all the time try out http://spamradio.com/ Why read it when you can listen to it?

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    4. Re:Why not by MonkeyBoy · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough I started making up one-off email addresses when signing up to stuff online. They basically come down to nospam-(description)@mydomain.com.

      I can assure you that at least some of those addresses have mysteriously fallen into the hands of spammers, and they are blithely spamming a nospam- address. Well, until I remove it from the server, but not before I send a terse email to the company who sold me out.

      That doesn't disprove your rule, just saying there's lots of scumbags in that "industry", and not all of them think things out like you do.

      --

      Moof!

  10. same problem by steveargonman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I had to get on some spam lists for an experiment as well. I signed up for everything you could imagine and recieve less spam on that account than my other accounts.

    1. Re:same problem by Oestergaard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Write a HOWTO and put your real e-mail address in there.

      Worked for me ;)

    2. Re:same problem by CvD · · Score: 1

      Oh yes definately. You don't have to write one, just a paragraph, and make sure you include your email address for any questions. Not only will you get spam, you'll get lots and lots of extremely clueless people writing to you:

      Subject: help
      Body: "help. it doesn't work"

      And thats pretty much all thats in the email. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO HELP YOU IF YOU DON'T TELL ME WHATS GOING WRONG? :-)

      Cheers,

      Costyn.

  11. Porn sites are your friends by fleafan · · Score: 2

    Just put your email adress in a lot of those 'get free pr0n pictures every day!' Works wonders. I heard.

  12. FREE pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    sign up for those "free porn in your email" things.
    works every time.

    1. Re:FREE pr0n by evanbd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Every time? how often do you do this, anyway?

  13. Post it here by MrBiiggy · · Score: 1

    Want to get lots of spam? Just post your email here, this place gets crawled all the time.

    For even better results get an editor to add it to the story on the front page.

  14. Murphy's Law part2... by Jonin893 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.

    We all know that the Spam won't show up if you want it. That's against the very nature of spam.

    All annoying things always happen every time except for the one time you try and prove the phenomenon to a non-beliver. Well known fact.

    Good luck at finding the spam (wow, I never thought I'd have say that.)

    1. Re:Murphy's Law part2... by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's called the Law of Non-Reciprocal expectations:
      • Positive expectations yield negative results.
      • Negative expectations yield negative results.
      A special case of this is the demo effect: The best way to make your pride-and-joy crash on the first keypress is to invite your boss's boss in to watch it run.

      Likewise, the only way to attract spam is by trying to avoid it.

      --
      This is not my sandwich.
    2. Re:Murphy's Law part2... by fm6 · · Score: 1
      We all know that the Spam won't show up if you want it. That's against the very nature of spam.
      Darn! If only I'd been more naive, I could have had a bigger penis and plundered all those Nigerian banks!
    3. Re:Murphy's Law part2... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think we are all missing a subtle point here:

      By definition, as implied earlier, 'spam' received by someone seeking spam is no longer spam. The defining characteristic of spam is that it is not only unsolicited, but also that it is not desired.

  15. Ebay by NetDrain · · Score: 5, Informative

    Make an ebay account with your email address in it and just start bidding. This is an excellent way to ruin an otherwise perfectly good email address. I was doing all right on the spam front until I did this. Big whoops. *hits head on desk* Yeah, stupid me.

    You'll quickly become inundated with "How-tos" to Ebay, "official" emails from Ubid by people attempting to fraudulently gain access to your personal information, more tips-and-tricks, more offers from uBid, and of course a plethora of marvelous online drugstore advertisements.

    Enjoy.

    1. Re:Ebay by djrogers · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I can't speak to your specific circumstances, but I've been using a specific ebay-only email address for 3 years now, and have not had one single spam sent to it. Bought and sold plenty of stuff too... Perhaps you need to re-check what little information sharing checkboxes you forgot to uncheck with ebay?

      --
      Think outside the... Hey, where'd the friggin' box go?
    2. Re:Ebay by Lost+Race · · Score: 2, Informative

      Same here. I had one seller decide that my transaction with him was an "opt-in" for his monthly advert spam, but he LARTed easily enough. I've never gotten any random MakePenisFast or WindowsInfectionDuJour spam on my Ebay-only address.

    3. Re:Ebay by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He's talking about making your ebay nickname contain your email address. E.g. instead of setting your nick on ebay to be JohnSmith78 and putting your email address in ebay's system, you set your nickname to be "johnsmith78@aol.com".

      Ebay specifically discourages this because lots of people have had their passwords to ebay stolen by people sending them fake email pretending to be from ebay and asking for their password for "security purposes".

      graspee

    4. Re:Ebay by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 1

      "...The world can't end today because it's tomorrow in Australia..."

      What if I'm in Australia when it ends...?

      (tig)

      --
      Ignorance and prejudice and fear
      Walk hand in hand
    5. Re:Ebay by Izago909 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      About 3 or 4 years ago I started buying things on ebay. As a student, I spent much of my day on campus. Many times, if I needed to get on the internet, a workstation wasn't always available or convenient to get to. The school did have many old 386 and 486 linux boxes that did nothing more than ssh into PINE for email. These things were all over the place. So sometimes I need to be notified of bidding while I was out. Without thinking, I had these sent to my school account. Nobody outside of friends, family, or school related people ever got my address besides ebay. In one year's time, I was getting so much spam that my account (60M quota) would overflow up to 3 times a week. I found myself logging on between classes to delete 30-50 messages. Eventually, I paid the school $25 to give me a new name on the network. This time, I still have only given my address to friends, family, and school related people... but no ebay this tame. 2 years later I still have to get one piece. It should be noted that my school has promised to NEVER use any sort of filtering. They cite censorship concerns, but I have some thought otherwise.

    6. Re:Ebay by node159 · · Score: 1

      The World WILL end today because its today in New Zealand!!

      --
      GPLv2: I want my rights, I want my phone call! DRM: What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak?
    7. Re:Ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you are in the US in which case it is still yesterday.

    8. Re:Ebay by wmspringer · · Score: 1

      I did the exact same thing :-p

      I have to say, the ebay scams are getting REALLY good; they're going to quite some lengths to make it look like the emails from from ebay.

      Ebay seems to be attacking the problem; anyone who has an email-type username is required to change it or have it changed by ebay

    9. Re:Ebay by Ores · · Score: 1

      then the world can't end in 2 hours
      because in New Zealand its atleast 2 hours ahead

    10. Re:Ebay by NetDrain · · Score: 1

      Regarding those who thought I meant having a username "AOLjunkie@aol.com" or whatever, that's not what I intended. I replaced my email username with a standard nick as soon as I created the account. I had no spam for years with my ebay account because I never used it -- but then about a year ago I started bidding here and there fairly often and all of a sudden the spam just started pouring in.

    11. Re:Ebay by Basje · · Score: 1

      Sorting != Filtering.

      The way I reccomend customers they set up their spam filters, is that suspected spams are put in a seperate imap folder on the mailserver, each recipient has. That way, each recipient can still read his mail normally, but can sift through the alleged spam if he or she wants to. Having it come in in a subfolder also doesn't trigger the new mail event in outlook(express), thus making the spam a lot less intrusive.

      In my experience, this sifting through spam ends in a week or two, after which everybody deletes it unseen (or keeps it unread until the mailbox runs over), but that is their own choice.

      --
      the pun is mightier than the sword
    12. Re:Ebay by burns210 · · Score: 1

      spamassassin man! with all that spam, just train spamassassin and you could probably get the spam down by 95%...

    13. Re:Ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Make an ebay account with your email address in it and just start bidding."

      your.name.ebay@yourdomain.co.uk

      Then setup a rule to forward all email to that address to someone at ebay

    14. Re:Ebay by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      You have to make your e-mail address visible without logging in. Change your ebay user id to your e-mail address. The spam *will* flow.

      I had an eBay account since back when they required you to use your e-mail address as in id. That account still gets over 2MB of spam a day, even though I changed my user id as soon as was allowed, which was more than 3 years ago.

  16. Free porn sites? by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems like there's more than a few people suggesting signing up with free porn sites to get spam.

    Personal experience?

  17. use online greeting card companies by Indy1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    also try porn sites, gambling sites, and more importantly, paste it on slashdot. My spam trap address here gets hit ALL the time, usually several times a day, which has helped me greatly in tuning my firewall.

    --
    Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
    1. Re:use online greeting card companies by node159 · · Score: 1

      Do as it does do did does do it do?
      Ohh fuck it, just do!
      \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

      --
      GPLv2: I want my rights, I want my phone call! DRM: What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak?
    2. Re:use online greeting card companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I completely agree. My address isn't associated with my Slashdot account, but my webpage is. Now my webpage has my e-mail address on it in a hard-to-parse easy-to-read spam preventing format.

      Last time I posted something about how I use this technique to avoid spam some fucknut AC (yes I realize the irony that I AM an AC, right now) looked up my webpage and posted a mailto right on Slashdot. I went from 0 to 25 spam e-mails the next day. Fucking bastard.

    3. Re:use online greeting card companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boy I wish my firewall worked on spam ... How d'ya do that?

    4. Re:use online greeting card companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea - post your email on Slashdot, that way I can contact you. I have LOTS of spam for you. Trust me....

      PS: Nobody ELSE does... (grin)

    5. Re:use online greeting card companies by Indy1 · · Score: 1

      simple, i run my own mail service, so anytime some spammer pisses me off, i firewall his hosting service (or at least a good chunk of it, cogent just lost another /16 as we speak) from sending me further port 25 traffic. I do love iptables : )

      --
      Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
    6. Re:use online greeting card companies by sharkdba · · Score: 1

      use online greeting card companies

      yes, I second that. I used greetings.com and filled in my email address so I would be notified when the recipient opened her greeting card. I made sure to uncheck each and every so called "offer" before submitting the card. Guess what happened: I started to receive 100+ spam email a day. Today its over 200/day. I seldom check this account nowadays.

      --
      The purpose of life is to find the purpose of life.
  18. If you want to be scientific, don't by gunner800 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you deliberately bait spam, your research will only be about spam as it effects bait e-mail accounts. Your conclusions won't be applicable to normal e-mail use habits.

    Want to survey spam as it effects a normal, real-life, daily-use e-mail address? Get a new address and starting using it as your primary account. Anything less will be irrelevant statistics.

    1. Re:If you want to be scientific, don't by Dobob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would have said the same thing, but that would have been redundant.
      But, it all depends on the precise of your study (you should have been more precise when asking here). Here is some possibility of studies and how you should act :

      1- Which actions get you the most spam : create many new email accounts. Paste slashdot@... here, suscribe to pr0n with pervert@, post to Usenet with usenet@, ... and yada yada yada, you got the point. The check the spams each account got after some time.

      2- What spam do specific people gets : get the spam real people got for the last n days. A university teacher shouldn't have the same spam as a child or as ./ reader. You should ask them before to remove all their anti-spam protection.

      3- What constitute spam : just do anything you want. Try everything you think of to increase spam, you need quantity, not quality.

    2. Re:If you want to be scientific, don't by EnvyRAM · · Score: 1

      That's true. Unfortunately, legitimate research might not be the true goal here. If you wanted to find the best way to drown someone in a spam attack, what better way than to social engineer a question and get it posted on Slashdot?

    3. Re:If you want to be scientific, don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. "What are you doing?", asked Minsky.

      "I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe" Sussman replied.

      "Why is the net wired randomly?", asked Minsky.

      "I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play", Sussman said.

      Minsky then shut his eyes.

      "Why do you close your eyes?", Sussman asked his teacher.

      "So that the room will be empty."

      At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

    4. Re:If you want to be scientific, don't by borg1238 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you are making assumptions on the kind of study he's doing. Maybe he's comparing subject lines or designs of SPAM messages, and it doesn't matter if he get's an accurate sampling of "average user" data.

  19. plenty of spam here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.spam.com

  20. there was an article on worst jobs a few days ago by civilengineer · · Score: 1

    you should've posted your job there. That would've got you in top 10.
    just kidding. on offense intended
    if you want spam you just need to get a hotmail account.

    --

    New year Resolution: Don't change sig this year
  21. a sure method by Alpha_Nerd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give it to some of your friends and relatives, soon you'll recieve 20 or so joke chain letters every day...

    1. Re: a sure method by EinarH · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am only recieving wicked screensavers from my friends you insensitive clod!

      --

      Melius mori in libertate quam vivere in servitute.

    2. Re: a sure method by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1
      I am only recieving wicked screensavers from my friends you insensitive clod!
      Yeah, like the one that looks exactly like getting your HD formatted, complete with HD noises and everything! Only the black screen it ends with isn't very creative.
      Now what button do I push to return to my program to backup those 6 months of work I need to finish in the next 5 minutes?
    3. Re:a sure method by Bilange · · Score: 1

      "Borrowed" from Ernies House of whoopass:

      First, let's define "chain letter". A chain letter is ANY e-mail that contains instructions to "forward this out to ten of your friends" or "forward this to everyone you know" or anything else of that nature.

      Ok, here's the cold hard truth folks. Listen closely. There is no sick kid. There is no company out there willing to give you free clothes. There is no company that is going to give you a free vacation. There is no company out there with a $100 check in their hand waiting for you. The sad truth is, these chain letters are developed by shady fly-by-night internet marketing companies who concoct some big story to get you to play along and send out their chain letter -- they ask you to forward it to your friends and after awhile the e-mail makes it back to them and presto, they've got hundreds of e-mail potential customers and they didn't even have to work for them.


      Thats so true... just look at one of these "omfg lol forward that shit" mail from your friends..! There is so much e-mail address that its not even funny. A real goldmine for a spammer.

      --
      "...a generation of kids has grown up thinking Trance is the shittiest music since country and western." - Paul van Dyk
  22. pr0n, obviously ;) by daniel_yokomiso · · Score: 1

    Seriously, search for porn sites and sign for their "free pics every day" lists. Err... at least that's what I heard about. Not that I sign for such lists...

    --
    Disclaimer: If I disagree with you I'm probably trolling...
  23. Become a student at the University of Texas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in Austin. The registrar will give your e-mail address to all who ask, including merchants who must promise not to resell your e-mail address.

    And that promise isn't worth the paper it is printed on.

    (you can of course choose to opt out of the official directory, but this prevents _any_ of your information from being available, which is unacceptable for some)

  24. I can provide you with a LOT by ddent · · Score: 1

    Contact me at the email address on ddent.net -- I have a domain that has accumulated over 200 megabytes of spam in a matter of days.

  25. 'Unsubscribe' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In your own inbox, get a couple of hundreds of spam.

    Take the urls (DO NOT CLICK ON THEM) and strip them of the stuff after the '?' .....

    Go to each of those 'unsibscribe' pages and put the test account in the email to be removed box.

    Its the best way to get spam. The spammers will generally use it as confirmation that your address does indeed exist, and theyll happily put you in their alive list, where you are shure to get everything they are selling.

    1. Re:'Unsubscribe' by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I actually tested that not too long ago. I made a hotmail account, did not use it, or publish the address anywhere. After two months, I found I was getting 10-15 spams a day. So, I started using the 'unsubscribe' links in all of them. In two weeks, I was down to 1-2 spams a day.

      Finally, after another two months, it was back up to 8-12 a day. So unsubscribing did seem to work, rather than hurt.

      --
      Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com."
      The purpose of that site was not known.
    2. Re:'Unsubscribe' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow it figures that received wisdom on Slashdot is actually 100% bullshit.

    3. Re:'Unsubscribe' by bluGill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      General wisdom suggests that some of those companies do unsubscribe you, but then they sell your email as a verified good address. By unsubscribing you they can claim in court that they are honest and ethical, afterall they can prove they unsubscribe everyone who requests it. Selling that address is sleezy, but they figgure they have a better chance of getting away with things, plus make some money.

  26. http://www.spamarchive.org/ by foonf · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was in the exact same situation, actually, and found spamarchive.org to be very helpful. Any one of the files on their ftp site should have enough spam to keep you busy for a while.

    --

    "(Man) tries to live his own life as if he were telling a story. But you have to choose: live or tell." --Sartre
    1. Re:http://www.spamarchive.org/ by whizkid042 · · Score: 3, Informative

      spamarchive.org is nice, however if you take a look at their stuff you will notice that all of the headers are messed up (because folks forward the spams to spamarchive). I was looking for a large collection of SPAM to train spamassassin with and found spamarchive.org to be unacceptable because the email headers were tampered with.

    2. Re:http://www.spamarchive.org/ by wirefarm · · Score: 1

      I also set up a spam blog for no real reason, just for fun. I like how the spams often change the whole look of the site, too, like backgrounds and stuff - I miss out on all that junk because I don't use Outlook express.

      What I found is that if your web server also has a mail server running on the same IP address, accepting mail for that same domain, your spam jumps incredibly.

      Spam programs seem to not be aware of DNS MX records, so if they find a host called www.wirefarm.com, they will try to connect to port 25 of that host.
      A well-behaved mail progam will do an MX lookup first and see that mail for my domain is handled elsewhere and send through the proper host.

      The effect of this is that if you send me a mail with a real client, I get it, but if your spam-sending program just sends through wirefarm.com:25 it goes through, but winds up on the spam blog.

      If you're running a mail server from home on a dyndns address and you have a friend doing the same, you might consider swapping MX records. If you're fortunate enough to have more than one IP address at your disposal, I'd bet your spam problems would go way down if you put mail and web on two different hosts. (At least until the spambots get smarter...)

      --
      -- My Weblog.
    3. Re:http://www.spamarchive.org/ by Spunk · · Score: 1

      I have the same problem. I trained Mozilla on it and now it messes up quite often.

    4. Re:http://www.spamarchive.org/ by big_gibbon · · Score: 1

      It's worth reading the SpamAssassin documentation, where they discourage this, and for good reason. Different people get different spam - if I were to compare my spam folder with yours, we'd probably see quite a wide difference - and we'd see a much wider difference if we compared it to, for example, my Mum's.

      Bayesian filtering works by picking up what words are likely to be used in *your* typical spam. It only needs 2000 mails to work on before it kicks in IIRC - if you're lucky enough to think that's a lot of spam, you probably don't need it ;)

  27. Spamarchive by endquotedotcom · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why not just download some from spam archive?

  28. post to the pr0n sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    find a bunch of pr0n sites and sign up there you will be all set. After you get a couple of spam just start replying to them asking to be taken off their list this should get you on a bunch of other lists.

  29. Unsubscribe by princewally · · Score: 1

    Send an email to the unsubscribe address listed in spam that you've received on a different email account.

    --

    -
    "Vengeance is fine," sayeth the Lord.
  30. What's worked for me... by Dinosaur+Neil · · Score: 2, Informative

    Based on a friend's suggestion, I created an alternate e-mail address and used it to create user IDs on classmates.com and match.com and, sure enough, until I kill the ID months later, I was getting 30+ spams a day after my ISP was done with its own filtering. I wasn't being very scientific and I don't know if it was one or the other or both, but it's a place to start...

    --
    "I'm a scientist! I don't think, I observe!" - Dr. Clayton Forrester
  31. A few thoughts by rdean400 · · Score: 4, Informative

    - Post a comment on Slashdot with the e-mail address visible
    - If on a popular e-mail provider such as AOL, Hotmail, or Yahoo, put up a profile and go to a chat room.
    - Allow your e-mail address to be listed on any of the directories.
    - Put your e-mail on a Geocities website.

    1. Re:A few thoughts by Algan · · Score: 1

      As a matter of fact I actually tried #1. The address is slashdot@hates.ms. I posted it in a comment a few months ago. Results were a bit dissapointing, spam started to arrive only recently, and only 1-2 a day. Well, maybe it needs a booster shot...

      --
      If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?
    2. Re:A few thoughts by rdean400 · · Score: 1

      Someone posted last week that they started getting spam after forgetting to hide their e-mail address.

      I thought of another one, but it's only good for a trickle of korean-language spam, apparently:

      - Post comments to any of the W3's mailing lists. After I commented on the proposed patent policy, I started to get 1 every other week, (including one which was apparently for a korean s&m site, judging by the enclosed picture) which lasted until I cancelled my account.

    3. Re:A few thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, let's see...

      coo2m6nd02@sneakemail.com

      coo2m6nd02@sneakemail.com

    4. Re:A few thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  32. oh spam! wonderful spam! by potpie · · Score: 1

    1) Use a screenname that's a name and then a number like bob123 or andy78.
    2) Register for things at places like AOL and MSN. I have no proof that they sell out their customers, but my experiences with both are strong indications.

    I think that's all I have for now.

    --
    Esoteric reference.
  33. email address on websites is best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Post your email address (plaintext, not obfuscated) on as many websites (the more popular the better) as you can. You may have to wait a while for the address harvesters to go by. It will come ...

  34. Change your thesis. by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    New research shows spam no longer a problem!

    1. Re:Change your thesis. by MoronGames · · Score: 1

      Yes! Spam is no longer a problem if you try to get it. Just make sure you hand out your email address to everyone, post it on websites, make it very easy to get a hold of, and you'll never get spam again!

      --
      hey!
  35. You're best bet by edthemonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think your best bet for simulating spam would be to give the account to a 14-16 year old kid for a week or two. One of the types that plays stupid games and talks to their friends on messaging programs all the time. They drop their email addresses all the time without really thinking about it.

    1. Re:You're best bet by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Pick the right 14-16 year old kid, though. For example, not me - I'm careful (notice that I chose the spam protections).

  36. Yahoo Games by infestedsenses · · Score: 1

    Sign up for a Yahoo! Games account using the address.
    I opened a fully new email account (at hotmail) just to sign up there (I didn't use the address anywhere else) and a week later I was receiving about 20-30 (!) spam mails daily.

    1. Re:Yahoo Games by rkz · · Score: 1, Informative

      Thats not Yahoo's fault that hotmail autobot spammers who do dictionary spam attacks on hotmail servers. Because hotmail is so popular they get many valid hits.

      just use mailinator.com for throw away email.

  37. Pyramid schemes by Broodje · · Score: 1

    Just sign up for a make-money fast pyramid scheme. You will get plenty of opt-in crap within days of signing up. This isn't a subtle thing: You apply, You open the floodgates with one simple reply to these jackasses. Try this clicky. Then apply to a few of the douche-deals they vomit your way.

  38. It's easy. by NerveGas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Put it on a web page which gets any moderate amount of traffic. I did that with some spam-bait addresses, and it's amazing how much they generate. In a few months, they've identified over 22,000 unique servers sending spam.

    steve

    --
    Oh, you're not stuck, you're just unable to let go of the onion rings.
    1. Re:It's easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got a list of IP addresses so we can configure our firewalls?

    2. Re:It's easy. by myov · · Score: 1

      You don't even need traffic, just a dedicated IP.

      Our site doesn't receive a lot of traffic, but it is on a dedicated IP. I had to resort to blocking IP's from China/Hong Kong/Korea/etc to keep the amount of spam managable. And I still recently lost an address due to spam.

      --
      I use Macs to up my productivity, so up yours Microsoft!
    3. Re:It's easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Put it on a web page which gets any moderate amount of traffic, it's amazing how much they generate"

      Yeah, I did that with Senator Holling's address. On a 200,000 page-views per year site, in the navbar.

      Opps, best post anonymously.

  39. opt-out to opt-in by Chromal · · Score: 1

    Take some spam with an 'opt-out' option from another address and 'opt-out' from the target address. That should add you to spam lists quickly as spammers will have confirmation of 'a live one' e-mail address!

  40. You want spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can have some of mine... In fact you can have all of it.

  41. Research Survey by becktabs · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Research Survey" = getting back at evil ex-girlfriend.

    1. Re:Research Survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, right. this is slashdot, remember?

  42. Just give me your e-mail address by LennyDotCom · · Score: 0

    If you give the the adress I will forward ALL the e-amil to my domnain and you will reciece about 300+ spam's a day

    --
    http://Lenny.com
  43. Lots of Contests by jarito030507 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Enter your email address into as many contests as you can. Those things have absolutely no reason to exist except to farm email addresses.

    Some links of the sweet, sweet google:
    Here
    Again
    And Again

    If you search for 'contests' and click on the sponsored link then you should have an abundant source. Also, if you sign up for a few of those "Free" trials at porno websites, you should start to get some serious spam.

  44. spam sponge-a-rama by rmc6198 · · Score: 1

    Go hang out in chat rooms (like Yahoo chat, that's a big one), and post your e-mail there. Bots will get your e-mail. Also, I'm sure posting on yahoo message boards has increased my spam count!

    Also, for spam you do get, reply to it! And make sure you have html and graphics enabled in your e-mail so "web beacons" can broadcast when you view the e-mail--both of these will flag your e-mail as an active address, which I'm sure puts you on many many lists circulating in dark back alleys where spammers do their bidding!

    Also, make your address something that's a really easy combination of letters, so the computers that randomly auto-generate e-mails are more likely to getcha. Oh and try to use hotmail...a hotmail address is the biggest spam sponge in the universe! (Not sure about some of the parallel universes though).

  45. Post ur address on /. by trolman · · Score: 1

    and in two days or less you can get offers from Nigerian buisiness people. What a deal!

  46. Try Free For All Links style sites.. by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    That and better yet the sites that will submit your web site to hundreds of search engines. That will get you to the FFA style sites quick. I did this when I needed an account to test SpamAssassin on. Worked like a charm. Better yet, give /. ers an Email and we can set a forward to you of some junk.

    Hey I got plenty!

  47. Posting in public forums by AEton · · Score: 2, Informative

    Post to Google Groups on many well-frequented lists (don't cross-post!) with the address. Sign up for a Slashdot account and write generally informative (+5! +5! +5!) tripe with your real email address tied to it.

    You also should've specified the test email in your story submission (i.e. Sean writes:) -- too late for that now, of course. In the slashdot@myname.endjunk.com emails I've provided, I've easily gotten 10+/day within a few hours of first posting. Neat.

    --
    We recently had heard in the office over one of the Yellow Machine that's made by Anthology Solutions.
  48. Look at my email addy... by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 3, Informative

    I made up a semi-bogus email addy, it's real in that mail sent to it gets to me, but when I'm done, I'll flush it down the tubes.

    I used it to attract spam so that I could train spamassassin for my use and for a few friends and family.

    I went and dropped it all over usenet in the pr0n groups, went to every viagra site I could find, clicked on every banner add I saw.

    It took a few weeks but I finally got the desired results. You'll have to put up with some extremely offensive email for awhile so make sure the wife and kids can't get to it during this phase.

    After doing this for a few weeks I was getting 50+ spams a day. Now that I have spamassassin all tuned up I just don't check mail on that account. Once I feel that I no longer have the need to tweak SA, I'll just dump the account..

    Too bad this doesn't work for TV commercials...
    HEY! How about an app that, er, nevermind...

    1. Re:Look at my email addy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      make sure the wife and kids can't get to it during this phase

      Well, being a typical slashdot user, I don't think the OP will have to worry about this too much...

    2. Re:Look at my email addy... by FryGuy1013 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      MythTv can auto-skip TV commercials if you want to invest in a PVR.

      --
      bananas like monkeys.
    3. Re:Look at my email addy... by MCZapf · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't SpamAssasin learn to block everything that way?

    4. Re:Look at my email addy... by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

      No, not at all.
      Kmail downloads mail from two accounts, everything goes through SA. SA could care less what account is what.

      Just make a few extra folders, one for spam that SA missed and one that SA flagged as spam but really isn't.
      http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassas sin/kmail.html
      Try here too,
      http://www.softwaredesign.co.uk/Information.SpamFi lters.html
      You can tweak the levels that trigger it, I've set mine at 3.5 and it seems to work much better than the default of 5.0

      Here's a SA configuration generator, it's a HUGE help when you're first getting started..
      http://www.yrex.com/spam/spamconfig.php

      As you find mail that SA flags the wrong way, move it to the missed-spam or not-spam folders then use sa-learn --ham or --spam options to train it.
      Also run sa-learn --ham on your normal mail folders that contain KNOWN GOOD emails.

      If I can do it, anyone can..

  49. search for... by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 1

    Search for FFA submission pages the ones that do not verify via google then just submit your email address and any url..you will get 1000s within 48 hours..

    --
    Don't Tread on OpenSource
  50. Use the "unsubscribe option" from known spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess nobody mentioned this: the best way to tell spammers that your mail is, indeed, valid, and that there's a real person behind it, is by trying to unsubscribe from their spam list. That's why so many spam emails provide such an option (usually a web link).

    1. Re:Use the "unsubscribe option" from known spam by pontifier · · Score: 1

      I have actually seen Unsubscribes working. I have opened and unsubscribed from every piece of mail I have recieved for about the last 10 weeks. I have seen my spam volume go down from 30/day to less than 10/day.

      Web bugs (1x1 tranparent gifs) are the prefered way to tell if an address is valid.

      --
      -John Fenley
    2. Re:Use the "unsubscribe option" from known spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the Unsubscribe only works for non-legit spammers. It's required to have an opt-out, just some ppl decide to harvest off of these logs. These are the types that you unsub from.

      I didn't see it either, but it seems that if you use things like bobsemail@somewhere.tld or something stupid like that it'll work well. Heck, set up a public sendmail. my root@(Like I'm giving out my DNS name).(Yeah right) gets flodded, and I have yet to figure out what to do except maybe getting an SMTP proxy that does some other things too.

      also, it doesn't take time if you're willing to try harder. Another thing is to take a spam blacklist and crawl through each DNS site. there's sure to be an opt-in (which isn't spam) which will easily get you on a 3rd party list that isn't nice to be on.

      The first post is a good idea. I think I'll try that for myself (setting up a pot, not the DMZ one)

      and on that topic. set a DENY ALL firewall for all outgoing packets on known exploit ports including ICMP / 80 / 443 / 135 / 22 / 23 / 21 / 445 (I think that's the MS-SQL port [the satanic SQL server that SUX]) / 3306 (mysql?) /

      but keep at the very least
      25 SMTP / 110 POP open. heck if you kept 80 open and I think 1 other, you'd be able to run AIM.

      basically just leave open what you need to and DENY ALL.

      when you can't monitor it 3 times a day, Unplug it.

      cool idea, but you'll kill things like monkeys.com

      indirectly of course.

      then again, what's the diff between what a consumer router calls a DMZ and directly connecting the computer to always-on internet?

  51. worked for me by pretzel_logic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Buy a throw-away domain name and post an index page with a email address. you could also use the method where you record the IP address of the spider by generating the email address on the fly. with [IP of spider]@domain.com and then set up a catch all email box. then you are monitoring the spiders ips and the mail servers ips. this idea was posted on /. a few months back but I couldnt find the link.

    --

    pretzel_logic
    1. Re:worked for me by seizer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not a throwaway domain, but:

      http://xult.org/email.html

      Surprisingly few spams have arrived. I suppose the page isn't that high traffic.... yet ;-)

    2. Re:worked for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if the spam-drones accidentally found a mailto:web@xult.org instead?

    3. Re:worked for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are an ass

    4. Re:worked for me by seizer · · Score: 1

      Then I could simply redirect it to /dev/null and throw up another image with a new address. Anyone who initially corresponds through that address is given my "real" address anyway.

      As the other poster said, though, you are an ass.

    5. Re:worked for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ">.

    6. Re:worked for me by dbitter1 · · Score: 1
      Why wouldn't you bill for the service of (1) replying to the email _*AND*_ (2) hunting down the bogus emailer's true addresses?

      Don't forget lawyer fees and court costs in there, as well!

      --
      For us carnivores, "Sucking the marrow out of life" isn't a transcendentalist philosophy but a practical instruction.
  52. Spam heaven is right at your doorstep! by pongo000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Simply respond to your own post here on /. with your e-mail address. /. is a spam magnet. The majority of spam I receive is from an e-mail address I used to use here that I quit using over a year ago.

    1. Re:Spam heaven is right at your doorstep! by Fweeky · · Score: 1

      I've seen no significant change in my spam statistics since setting SlashDot to show my address unmunged. But then I do get about 100/day, so...

  53. Spam feeding bloat.. by adeyadey · · Score: 1

    I can actually confirm this - a yahoo address I used for mailing usenet has got very few spam emails. I think the spam-bots are replete, they have feasted on all your mail boxes for so long, they barely need new ones....

    --
    "You lied to me! There is a Swansea!"
  54. TROLL-MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Didn't get a great view of the pictures... but they looked like gay porn with fat men... honestly... if you clicked like I did, YHBT, and HAND.

  55. Post the address here by dmatos · · Score: 1

    and have a bunch of people on slashdot forward you their spam. Hey, everyone, let's help this guy out.

    --

    It may look like I'm doing nothing, but I'm actively waiting for my problems to go away.
    --Scott Adams
    1. Re:Post the address here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seethruwindo@earthlink.net

      Spam at will.

      Thanks!

  56. Seeding addresses by macdaddy · · Score: 1

    Would seeding addresses invalidate your research? Earlier this summer I seeded a little over 525,000 spamtrap addresses to numerous spammer's remove forms. I get more spam than I know what to do with now. :-) I report it all via Razor2 and Pyzor. I was also auto-forwarding it to the FTC and Bob the NANAS bot. Unfortunately my auto-forwarding scripts can't handle bounces so when I was Joe Jobbed I was forwarding the bounces to the FTC and NANAS. I haven't had time to fix that minor detail yet though. If this wouldn't invalidate your research I'd be glad to show you how I did it. If you want me to help, reply to this post.

  57. Or in other words... by chimpo13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hi, I'm pissed off at someone and would love to get them bombarded with spam. No, I don't think that'll work on slashdot. Better say "research" instead of "pissed off". Yeah, that should work.

    1. Re:Or in other words... by chimpo13 · · Score: 1

      To reply to my own comment, is there a way that an article could be modded at -1 Troll? Really.

  58. Ask Slashdot by roystgnr · · Score: 5, Funny

    "My deadbeat roommate has pissed me off once too often. On a completely unrelated note, I'm looking for ways to attract lots of spam to an email address for... er... research. Yes, research sounds plausible."

    1. Re:Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This happened to me once. My ex-girfriend's friend got pissed that I said there is no such thing as working in internet security which he was claiming to do. So he sumbitted my e-mail address to a bunch of places which didn't unsubscribe on my request.

    2. Re:Ask Slashdot by Anti_Climax · · Score: 1

      In my group of friends, my roommate and another had a falling out. For a laugh, my roommate decided to paste his email address anywhere he could; mostly porn sites, but any seedy place he could find.

      It wasn't even 2 days before he begins bitching about all the spam he's been getting lately in his AOL mail in box (serves him right for using AOL I guess) He said he went from about 10 spams a day to about 150. And believe me, he was even more pissed off when he found out who was doing it.

      --
      Even people that believe in pre-destiny look both ways before crossing the street.
  59. You missed out the most obvious! by SteelX · · Score: 1

    Post the email address on Slashdot! :-)

  60. Unsubscribe Lists, shady sites by MadocGwyn · · Score: 1

    Put yourself on every porn mailing list known to man, look for 'shady' spam from other sources and opt-in, once you get a few going the address shareing should kick in.

    --
    Jesus saves, everyone else takes full damage from the fireball.
  61. try this one by SHEENmaster · · Score: 4, Funny
    --
    You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
    1. Re:try this one by squant0 · · Score: 1

      mod that funny!

    2. Re:try this one by shogun · · Score: 1

      I bet spammers don't send to an address with 'spam' or 'SPAM' anywhere in it...

    3. Re:try this one by geggibus · · Score: 1

      Some random domain name is fun since it resolves now..(thank you verizon :-/) ...

      (The link in my sig contains 200000 random mailaddresses.. )

    4. Re:try this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's VeriSign, not Verizon..

    5. Re:try this one by nutsy · · Score: 1

      You mean VeriSign.

    6. Re:try this one by geggibus · · Score: 1

      Yup, never post when you're tired (i don't even remember i posted that.. ;)

  62. if you really want it.... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

    It takes more then a few days, but I've used a generic hotmail account for 4+ years now and after just a few usenet posts, I get about 100 spams per day.

    Spam takes time, have patience. :)

  63. Come on by Metaldsa · · Score: 1

    Did this really need to be an Ask Slashdot? Besides a simple google search I am sure it isn't that hard to attract spam. Just put your email address out there. Message boards, Usenet groups, and send emails out to porn web pages (free pr0n!). I have a hard time believing that spam is hard to come by if you take 30min trying to attract it.

    1. Re:Come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What he was saying, genius, is that he TRIED all that and it didn't work as expected. Christ, try reading.

  64. Post it in the slashdot article. by Fiery · · Score: 1

    Put your email address in the slashdot article, unescaped. Don't include stopwords like "spam", "nospam", "gov", "fcc", "fte", etc. Don't use +, -, _.

  65. Check the archives? by DeBeuk · · Score: 1
    --
    Reality has a notoriously liberal bias -- Stephen Colbert
  66. You could have put it on here... by dotgod · · Score: 1

    Too bad you didn't include the e-mail address in the write-up you submitted.

  67. post on Slashdot by mod12 · · Score: 1

    I have a separate email address for slashdot. And as soon as I submitted an article that was displayed on the front page and agreed to allow that email address to be publicly visible with the article announcement, I was suddenly flooded with spam. It looks like you missed out on a golden opportunity when you submitted your article without a link to your email. :)

  68. For starters.. by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 1

    You could have sent your email address along with the article!

  69. Two Places by ebob · · Score: 1

    1) Put your email address on a web page

    2) Register a domain name

    I've been using sneakemail for a couple of years. I shows you where they got your address when you get spam. By far these are the two most frequent sources of spam.

    --
    To avoid seeing this message again, always shut down your computer properly by selecting Shut Down from the Start Menu.
    1. Re:Two Places by FCKGW · · Score: 1

      I've been using Sneakemail, too, with exactly the same results. Addresses posted in WHOIS listings or on websites get the most spam. Maybe places you actually submit your address to are too scared to spam a sneakemail address, knowing that it's traceable. Or maybe we're both just lucky.

      --
      It's an operating system, not a religion.
  70. Post your e-mail address in a reply to this ... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

    Reply to this and I'll post your e-mail on my website. It's amazing how many spams I get just for having an e-mail address on a not so popular game fan site. I'll check later for the reply

    1. Re:Post your e-mail address in a reply to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay here it is:

      darl.mcbride@sco.com

    2. Re:Post your e-mail address in a reply to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  71. Register a Domain by eericson · · Score: 1

    Especially with Network "Solutions". My spam count tripled when I did this.

    -E2

    --
    The evil monkey commands you to dance.
  72. I am doing the same but...? by deadmongrel · · Score: 1

    I have been doing the same think for the past couple of weeks(harvesting spam) but it just stuck me that it may not be the best way to find a solution for spam. For one what's spam to me would be an "useful" article to you. your thoughts on this?

    if possible please spam deadmongrel@yahoo.com
    thanks!

  73. Most spammers use pre-harvested addresses by obfuscated · · Score: 1

    Like the subject says, most spammers use pre-harvested addresses. Most (90%+) will buy them from people who just harvest addresses, 24/7.

    The run-of-the-mill spammer doesn't want to take the time to actually spider through and get his own addresses. Why not let someone who specializes in that do it for them.

    CD's (and now DVDs) FULL of email addresses are available for sale. At a higher premium is of course databases full of email addresses where they can verify that a person is there. Either via an "unsubscribe" request or an "opt-out" clickthrough, or even an html image request that is unique to the email id.

    At an even higher premium are people's addresses who have received spam, and then actually buy something from it. Those are like "in the money options" on wall street.

    If you wanted spam today, you should have posted your messages six weeks ago.

    -dK

    --

    -- dK ... Narf Poit!
    1. Re:Most spammers use pre-harvested addresses by obfuscated · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, so since I can't edit my post. What I was getting at is that spidering and harvesting from newsgroups takes a while and professional harvesters don't release data as it comes in, but in big databases (be it flat files, actual dbs, outlook address files, etc, etc).

      Release dates come out as soon at once a week for subscription services, and probably every three weeks to a month for large files.

      --

      -- dK ... Narf Poit!
  74. Go to pr0n sites by Yaa+101 · · Score: 1

    yes really... :-)

  75. Don't know how to get the spam started... by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 1

    ...but I know where to find info on penis enlargement.

    And generic Viagara to go with it!

    (tig)

    --
    Ignorance and prejudice and fear
    Walk hand in hand
  76. Well! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can have my spam! I really don't need it!

    Anything I can do to help! :)

  77. Webmaster has the answer by Lalakis · · Score: 1
    step 1) Register a domain
    step 2) Make the webmaster@yourdomain.com email account
    step 3) Watch the spam flowing...

    This way will get you going in no time. No advertisement, no other action from you is needed. Of course if you view the html spam mails, reply and follow their links you will have much much better results.

  78. That depends by dmiller · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you deliberately bait spam, your research will only be about spam as it effects bait e-mail accounts. Your conclusions won't be applicable to normal e-mail use habits.

    The relevance of a baited addres depends on how one does the baiting. I'd say that a handful of usenet posts, pasting it to a couple of web pages, use of it to create accounts on websites (e.g. here), etc would be very representative of common patterns of address disclosure.

    1. Re:That depends by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thats true, but "common patterns of address disclosure" also varies based on the user. Slashdotters, for example, are usually intelligent enough to avoid the pitfalls of trap webpages people like Joe Average fall for. Because of that, the spam e-mails you'll get will vary against the type of spam between Jenny Girl seven year old who gets cartoonie spam while Grumpy Old Man seventy year old will get youth-restoring spam.

    2. Re:That depends by NickFortune · · Score: 1
      Yep, So the thing to do is

      A) acknowledge that there will always be some bias due to researcher preconceptions;
      B) state your bating methods explicity;
      C) include a caveat in the conclusion to the effect that different bait may yeild different results.

      Then at least the next fellow who works with your results can use different parameters and comapare results.

      --
      Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton!
    3. Re:That depends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait. You mean you get targetted spam that meets your needs? In my experience, Jenny Girl seven year-old is more likely to get penis enlargement and pyramid scheme spam than the seventy year-old unless he's been subscribing to porn (which is the single fastest way to get to the bottom of the barrel of spam).

    4. Re:That depends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to get true and accurate results, consider issuing a "honeypot" Email address, one for each place you "seed" your email address.

      Then, when the spam starts pouring in, yu'll know exactly where it came from.

      We are doing this now, and have some really interesting results.

      If I had a way to anonymously contact you, I would be willing to share my info.

    5. Re:That depends by JuggleGeek · · Score: 1
      Because of that, the spam e-mails you'll get will vary against the type of spam between Jenny Girl seven year old who gets cartoonie spam while Grumpy Old Man seventy year old will get youth-restoring spam.

      You give the spammers far too much credit. They generally don't target demographic groups. They spam every address they can find. They don't care if you are male or female, they'll still send you "Get Big Pen1s asieqa1" spam to your address. They don't care if you're 7 years old or 90+. It would be time consuming for them to actually figure out who you are and try to target you with specific ads. It's much easier (and much less expensive) for them to just throw every advertisement they have at your address.

    6. Re:That depends by MMaestro · · Score: 1

      True but what I'm trying to note is that (gullible) people will usually give their e-mail address out to specific types of sites which then sell their e-mails based on the specific type of "web trap" they got the e-mail from. If you gave your e-mail to a fake Looney Toons site, do you really think that a spammer is going to send you life insurance spam? No way, they'd probably send you something like "Win a free Disney DVD" spam. (Now of course the exceptions are sites which had no clear type of age group such as emulator/ROM sites.)

    7. Re:That depends by JuggleGeek · · Score: 1
      If you gave your e-mail to a fake Looney Toons site, do you really think that a spammer is going to send you life insurance spam?

      Yes, I know that they will. I've seen it.

      I own the whitis.com domain. For awhile, my kids used whitis.com email addresses. They don't any longer. They gave their addresses out to places like disney.com, nikelodeoan.com, nintendo.com, Sega, etc. Those addresses now get spam for viagra, mortgage refinancing, BigPen1zNow, porn, etc. The same kind of garbage the rest of us get.

      Spammers DO NOT CARE. It costs them essentially the same amount to mail 1 million addresses as to mail .8 million - or 1.2 million. It would cost them more to try to figure out and track demographics than to just mailbomb everyone. And they trade/sell addresses to each other. Many spammers make their money by selling spamware and addresses, and the more they have to sell, the better. Others promise to deliver your email-ad to however many addresses (all "opt in", of course) and once again, the more addresses they have, the better.

      They have no financial interest in protecting our mailbox. Legitimate businesses using postal mail use demographics to try and target their audience. That helps cut down their cost while still getting their ad out in front of their primary target. But spammers don't have to pay for paper and postage, and the easiest thing to do is to just send the crap to every freaking address they can find.

      I have an email address which I used to post to the NANAE usenet group several years ago. It wasn't used in the header at all, just my sigline. It was munged in the sigline. It was used for posting to one newsgroup only, the news.admin.net-abuse.email newsgroup. The purpose of that group is to discuss spam/spammers/fighting spam. The spammers manually unmunged that address, and it still gets spam today, years later. They don't care that the recipient hates and reports spam, 'cause it's just another address to them.

      You are incredibly optimistic about the spammers work ethic, and the evidence doesn't back it up.

  79. sign up for "FREE PIZZA!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sign up for Free Pizza. I did so and was receiving dozens of spam emails within days.

  80. Easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want spam then you want to attract ruthless spammers who have no scruples and will stop at nothing. The answer to achieving this is easy - SIGN UP FOR AS MANY PORN SITES AS POSSIBLE - and your wish will be granted. BTW, I`m not joking, I`m absolutely serious.

  81. How about earthlink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Recently, I just got spam form earthlink. I believe they have some sort of spamming policy, but look who's spamming. Although they use some spamming company to handle their dirty job, it is still originating from earthlink. Good thing the spam assassin manage to id the spam with 7.4 hits
    enough say ..

    From: Earthlink web hosting

    EarthLink(R) Web Hosting
    Host your Web site with the small business specialist.
    And try it for Free!
    http://65.110.13.26/cgi-bin/clickthru?c=181 &m=865& e=spammer@spamming.me

    You can trust EarthLink(R) to help you successfully launch your Web site - no
    matter how long you're been in business. And now, you can try it for free. One
    of the most trusted names on the Internet is ready to get your business online
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    Click below or call 1-866-321-4944 and mention promotion code 13315.
    http://65.110.13.26/cgi-bin/clickthru?c=18 1&m=865& e=put@your.addr.here.to.get.spam.and.click.me

    1. Re:How about earthlink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was obviously sent by someone else hoping to profit from Earthlink's affiliate referral program. Look at the URLs. I'm sure if you reported it to them, they would dutifully act appalled and delete the spammer's account, while continuing to profit from other spammers doing the same thing. It isn't the same thing as sending out the spam themselves or hiring out someone else to do it, though.

      That IP resolves to oc27.oceanicspecials.com, FWIW.

  82. I Have Your Answer by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where should I post my address so that it attracts spam?

    How about the front page of Slashdot?!? That ought to help you out a bit.

    /me shakes his head.

    --
    I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
    I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
    1. Re:I Have Your Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if it showed up there, it would probably be 'joe jobbed' right quick.

    2. Re:I Have Your Answer by Mard · · Score: 1

      Not a problem. He can include the email address in the tonight's repost.

      --
      DRM = Digitally Restricted Media. This is a viral sig, pass it on.
  83. Hotmail by PerlHeadJax · · Score: 1

    Start a hotmail email account. Within days of starting mine and not using it anywhere I was inundated with spam at the rate of approximately 50 per week.

    I shudder to think what that rate would be like if I'd actually used it in a web form/rebate submission/blog reply.

    (Now I know what you're thinking: why create a hotmail account and then not use it? Well...before I had a chance to use it I started getting spammed, so I figured it would be a neat experiment to see how bad the spam would get.)

  84. If You Want Spam ..... Give Us The EMail Address! by Kehl · · Score: 1

    My fingers are at the ready =D

  85. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by refactored · · Score: 2, Funny
    Have you noticed that a lot of spam these days has encrypted messages attached to it?

    Looks like....

    wplqc r uesdpq
    y tq
    vr
    wcvixv qaowp
    go xz
    hfcjlf o ejni hxkqgftfhdw xgm
    ct edtt
    onzfkwsp gui

    I have been collecting them as I spot them, when I have enough samples and enough time I will have a bash at decrypting them.

    So if you want to add a flourish to your thesis, you can also figure out what they are using the encrypted text for. (Probably some sort of tracking to measure success of campaigns.) I will happily send you my collection of spam + encrypted messages.

    It did occurred to me that if you were a distributed illegal group that wanted to communicate in a way that was untracable from you to the component cells, you could do worse than sending out spam + encrypted message to millions of random addresses, some of which are your cells.

  86. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  87. The Spam Gods Know by jazman_777 · · Score: 1

    You have to _not_ want it. If you want it, they'll just increase the flood to your personal account.

    --
    Slashdot: Failed Car Analogies. Amateur Lawyering. Anecdote Battles.
  88. Typical by yuda · · Score: 1

    When ya want to be spammed there's non to be seen

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  90. Domains are wonderful by sunF · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For the past couple years I've forwarded all emails for a domain to one account. Whenever I give out my email, I give their website/company@my-domain.com and try to insure they will not spam by doing the usual unsubscribing. Classmates was a violator, however I went back through and reunsubscribed and rarely get anything. The worst offenders I found were morpheus-musiccity, iseekyou(icq), and my-domain. Hotmail was pretty bad when I originally signed up because I didn't unsubscribe at passport.net.

  91. How about a dictionary lookup by willy134 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I happen to have several email addresses that are like my username here. I get spam for willy001 willy002...willy134...willy156.... If you set up an email address on a domain that is very well spammed (hotmail excite yahoo...) with a name like john12345 and that might induce spam.

    --
    Can you ping me now?... Good!
  92. Free Pr0n... by WhaDaYaKnow · · Score: 1

    Doh... Just sign up for free pr0n on a couple of websites.

    Google is your friend. ;)

  93. Takes Time by wren337 · · Score: 1

    It takes time for your address to really get into the spam-swap lists. Do a domain registry with your address, post to some web-archived mailing lists. When you get spam, make sure you read it spam with HTML images enabled so they will know it's a "live" address.

    When you get the spam offering to sell you millions of email adresses on CD, you'll know you've arrived.

  94. Build yourself a website or two... by annielaurie · · Score: 1

    On places like GeoCities and other free spots. Sprinkle each page liberally with "Mailto's." They'll find you eventually.

    --
    DUCT TAPE: The Election Supervisors' Secret Weapon
  95. wait longer? by forevermore · · Score: 2, Informative
    How long have you waited? Though some people here talk about getting their honeypot addresses spidered in a matter of hours, you do have to rememeber that even if the spam spiders are running 24/7/365, it may take them awhile to get back to the pages and articles that you posted (my guess is that usenet groups are also prioritized pretty low, as I know people who post there often, and have for a long time, and never received spam to those addresses).

    The best way to get spam? Put your email address into a popular HOWTO, or run a 3-letter domain (a friend of mine gets about 2/second to his three-letter domain). And be patient.

    But if you want some of mine, I'm happy to get rid of it. ;)

    --
    Do you really need reason for beer? Wingman Brewers
  96. Want spam? by nissin · · Score: 1

    One word: porn.

  97. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by dapuk · · Score: 1

    That isn't any sort of encrypted text. It is simply a (pathetic) attempt of evading filters...

  98. For real spam... by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You have to make sure you click the opt-out check boxes if you're signing up places. If you go to a porn site and sign up to recieve mail from them it's hardly spam. Yes, I know you'll still get a lot of stuff you didn't ask for. But since this is for research, it seems like the distinction ought to matter.

    --
    Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
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  100. Quadruple your spam in 12 hrs. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    Klick on the 'don't send me information again' link at the bottom or respond to those viruswarnings.

    BTW:
    Your just asking about getting spam to an Email address with actually doing the obvious and using the mails that that address recieves. Could it be that your bullshitting us?

    Timothy, what ever you where smoking when you passed this 'Ask Slashdot' post, please don't ever offer me any of it.

    --
    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  101. All the free spam you could want: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://emailrevenge.tk

    muwahahahahaha

  102. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not encrypted data - it's merely random text intended to throw off spam filters.

  103. Here is what I did by bigberk · · Score: 1
    I was doing research on spam as well, and although I didn't get an instant flood of spam the level was quite substantial after two months:
    1. Put your address in your USENET posts (From field)
    2. Search online for typical spammer front-ends: join mailing lists with keywords mortgage, easy money, free money, cash, get rich, advertising, home business
    3. Use your address to sign up for other spammy things, like pornography, vacation offers, credit inquiries

    Unsubscribe a few days after you subscribe. Ha ha! 'Unsubscribe', I love that term. Seriously though, the spammers will sell your addresses to others and you'll get a healthy flow of spam soon enough.
    1. Re:Here is what I did by Asgard · · Score: 1

      Joining mailling lists with the intention of getting spam seems counter-productive, in that case you do seem to be legitimately requesting the data.

  104. Send one of those e-greeting cards by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2, Informative

    Specifically, not one that's from an actual brick and mortar greeting card maker. 9 times out of 10, you'll be sure to be not only adding YOURSELF (the sender) as a future spam victim, but whoever you entered as a recipient for the e-greeting card.

    --
    All I know about Bush is I had a good job when Clinton was president.
  105. Maybe this is a Dumb Question by serutan · · Score: 1

    If you get so much spam in your regular email, why don't you just use that?

  106. Use a control group by Kehl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Create Several Email Addresses - Be scientific ...

    Address 1 - (Control Address) Post No Where and read no messages until the testing time is over

    Address 2 - Post On Usenet (Deja.com)

    Address 3 - Post In Public ICQ program

    Address 4 - Porn Sites

    Address 5 - IRC

    etc .....

  107. 200 spam/day for $50 by Triumph+The+Insult+C · · Score: 1

    i'll give you my pop3 user/pass combo.

    --
    vodka, straight up, thank you!
  108. Porn by gtshafted · · Score: 1

    Just sign up for 'free' access to a porn site that requires your email.

  109. My Spam corpus by orthogonal · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have an address I used for about three months on usenet, only in the comp.lang hierarchy.

    I may have used it for a few web sites, but the only one I recall is a local political organization which I doubt would have sold, or had the expertise to sell, its list. Still, the data is tainted, and I can't say it all comes from usenet.

    According to DejaGoogle, I last used it 18 April 2002, and it was last referenced in a follow-up message 5 May 2002. I first used it 15 February 2002.

    For a while I had my ISP forward mail to that address to "nothing" until I worried it might be piling up on the server somewhere (I don't know what forwarding to "nothing" means in the ISP's web control panel). So there are no messages for most of the month of May 2003.

    Disregarding the emails from the political organization, there are 1733 emails; the earliest is dated 16 July 2002, the lastest today 21 Sep 2003. (There are probably earlier emails to this address which have been archived.)

    So that's a span of 432 days, not subtracting the period when I wasn't having the email forwarded. Again not subtracting the un-forwarded days, that's ~4 per day.

    Note that this is only spam to this particular "sacrificial" address; it does not count the large amount of spam that, thanks to having some idiots as "friends", hits my "real" address.

    I have not been subject to any dictionary attacks on my domain name, but I have gotten about 105 spams to admin@mydomain in the same time period. This pushes the daily average to ~4.25/day.

    Since I started getting a lot of spam, I've made a practice of assigning each commerical contact or mailing list a different address (theirdomain.tld@mydomain.tld generally); surprisingly, these get very little spam, despite getting large volumes of legitimate mail each day.

  110. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I doubt that it's encryption. My assumption is that it's random text, generated to

    - avoid exact matches/digests by spam filters (though it won't help much against Bayesian ones, and would in fact help finger spam if the Bayesian filters could recognize "non-words".

    - uniquely identify email so as verify your address. The "click to unsubscribe" scam has stopped fooling people. But they can still send you html mail that opens a URL with a randomly-generated tag in your subject line that matches the database of what they sent out.

  111. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by Fesh · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's what they want you to think!

    *looks left, looks right*

    --
    --Fesh
    Kill -9 'em all, let root@localhost sort 'em out.
  112. Wait. by MisterFancypants · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think you have to wait, as from what I understand most of the people who spam actually buy spam lists from other people. The spam lists seem to be compiled like phone books, so they send out batches of addresses like every month or so. I'm sure your mailbox will be stuffed to the breaking point about two months from now.

    1. Re:Wait. by JuggleGeek · · Score: 1
      I think you have to wait, as from what I understand most of the people who spam actually buy spam lists from other people.

      I was starting to wonder if anyone was going to point this out. Most spammers don't scrape their own addresses, they buy lists of addresses. So when you stick an address on a website, use it to register a domain name, or post to usenet, it's not going to get a lot of spam in the first day or the first week. Be patient - the spam will start showing up more and more as the first spammers sell the address off, and others resell it, etc.

      Some time back I changed the address shown in my domain registration information to "domainreg@" my domain. It took awhile before I saw any spam at all to that address, but it's common now that it's been harvested and sold.

  113. Another easy way by McAddress · · Score: 1

    In order not to recieve spam on my primary account, I registered for some accounts to use whenever I had to give an email to a questionable entity. In order to support these free accounts, they tell you in advance that they're sponsors will send you emails. Some example of these are yourmom.com, beer.com, and rock.com.

  114. How are Porn sites NOT my friend? by GoofyBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your first 30 minutes alone on the Internet should tell anyone that.

    --
    The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
  115. master the spam call by f64 · · Score: 1


    ah, little grasshopper, the spam will not come if you wish it to.
    it senses your wanting, and stays far, far away - hidden in the forest like a wild dog which only approaches you when the camp fire is out and you are asleep.

    to have the spam come to you, you must learn to put it out of you mind. fill your mind with good and happy thoughts, and let those thoughts cloud you intentions, much like a straw mat hides the bug from the birds that hunt it.

    then, and only then, will the spam come up to you.


    f64 : my ninja skill is far superiour to your ninja skill

  116. Who you use as an ISP is important by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Is the account you want spammed provided by the same ISP as your personal account? It sounds like the ISP you are using for the research account might be doing a really good job killing off the spam before it ever gets to you. In order for the research to be uncorrupted you need to verify that your ISP passes all e-mails through to you, rather than spam filtering.

    --
    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    1. Re:Who you use as an ISP is important by eglamkowski · · Score: 1

      Which is to say, he'd really need to use a free web-based email that doesn't filter.

      I'd recommend angelfire.com, but they aren't offering new accounts...

      --
      Government IS the problem.
  117. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by CaptBubba · · Score: 2, Interesting
    They aren't blocks of encrypted text. That text is there in an attempt to throw off spam filters. I think the idea is that if a certain amount of the message is unknown to the the spam filter, the filter won't flag the messgae as spam.

    Also they break up words to avoid spam filters, like the following spam I recieved:

    "Ge ni tal Enl arge ment - Me dic al Bre akth rou gh F or Me n ! 2 a m azi ng wa ys to e nl ar ge y our man h ood - re ad bel ow..

    D oct ors work ed for ye ars crea ting a p il l to en lar ge t he ma le ge nit al ia b y len gt h a nd wi dt h.
    T he ye ars of wo rk p rodu ced a pi l l c al led "V P R X", - V P R X P i l l s inf o c li ck her e .
    a nd al so a pa tch simi lair to the qu it sm o king pat ch . - P e n i s P a t che s i nf o cl ic k her e . "

    I just hope they don't discover this, which is much more readable and still produces the same filter avoiding results. Fortunatly Bayesian filters learn these tactics and significantly reduce their useable lifespan. Expect to see the face of spam change more often and more dramticly with the widespread adoption of such filters by AOL and others.

  118. Be conservative by Badanov · · Score: 1, Funny

    Respond to liberal outbursts on Slashdot with a conservative counterpoint and you will start getting penis implant and virus emails from leftists who post here.

    --
    Dawn of the Dead
  119. Adult sites by Electrum · · Score: 1

    Submit your email address to some adult websites. You will get plenty of mail.

  120. Post One Spam To news.admin.net-abuse.sightings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That'll do the job. Spammers will not only add the reply-to address in that usenet post to every spam list on the planet, but you will also receive, for about three days, a large number of virus-laden attachments with losers desperately hoping that you'll install Back Orifice and let them into your machine. If you were an FBI agent and need to demonstrate your ability to catch a "hacker" and reduce the "terrorist threat", that'd be an easy way to do it.

  121. how in the heck by Twister002 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    do questions like this make it to the front page?

    --
    "For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
  122. Just post the address on a Web page. by Brett+Glass · · Score: 1
    Any Web page. It'll take about 4 hours to be "scraped."

    Or use it to register a domain name. The moment it gets into the WHOIS database, you'll be inundated.

  123. Register a Domain Name by Macrat · · Score: 1

    Any address that I register a domain name with seems to get added to *ALL* the spam lists....

  124. Sweepstakes by ehiris · · Score: 1

    That's where you should submit your e-mail address. Before you know it, you'll win a lot of spam.

  125. Get a hotmail account with a very short user name.
    Using a short name (~3 characters) or a very common first name before the @ sign guarantees that you will be found on any domain. I used to have adrian@ as an alias my job, but I got slammed with spam. I then asked them to remove it. Presto: no more spam. Then I got added to a d-list (ops@). Now I get the spam again.

    --

    Physics: Making the universe open source.
  126. That's easy... by VirtuaKnight · · Score: 1

    Just get a domain with Verisign.

  127. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    avoid exact matches/digests by spam filters (though it won't help much against Bayesian ones, and would in fact help finger spam if the Bayesian filters could recognize "non-words".

    It's definitely a black mark. It's been my experience that bayesian filters only need to be "taught" two filter-evading spams before they start tagging them over 90% of the time. They usually reach 100% accuracy before the 10th spam.

  128. Why isn't Microsoft responsible? by dcavanaugh · · Score: 3, Insightful
    After all, it's their product that set the stage for all of this.

    1. Re:Why isn't Microsoft responsible? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "After all, it's their product that set the stage for all of this."

      Microsoft isn't responsible for people's actions. Would you want Redhat to be responsible of an exploit was found in their distro of Linux?

      Me personally, I'd want them to be encouraged to fix it (i.e. risk losing sales etc.), but I wouldn't want them liable for somebody else being a shithead.

      Liability in a case like this is a double-edged sword. Besides, every time something like this happens, everybody gets stronger. Microsoft (eventually) fixes it, the Linux Community has something they can make sure never happens to them (as well as Apple, etc.), and end users get stung and learn better computing practices. Me personally, I run Windows everywhere. Thanks to all these exploits (though none have hit me yet), I'm much better about making backups and I'm far less dependent on Windows being reliable. If I switch to Mac or Linux, then I'm a smarter user in those cases as well.

      So, in short, spare us the 'Microsoft should be responsible' argument. Don't stick Microsoft with a responsibility that you wouldn't want your own favorite OS (developer?) to fall under.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    2. Re:Why isn't Microsoft responsible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Would you want Redhat to be responsible of an exploit was found in their distro of Linux?
      "

      i think you misunderstand the concept of exploits in linux. these tend to occur in specific software applications, linux is just the kernel and redhat is just a tweaked kernel with packages and a packaging system. take the recent OpenSSH hole, this affects any system running this daemon, not just "redhat" or whatever, you cant have just a "redhat" exploit

    3. Re:Why isn't Microsoft responsible? by cygnusx · · Score: 1

      So, assuming a world where software makers are just as liable as automobile makers, if my Redhat box's OpenSSH implementation gets infected with a worm, who do I sue? Redhat or Theo de Raadt? Note that the OpenSSH folk (Theo et al) provided a patch really quickly. Redhat was slower. So-- who is responsible?

      Personally, I think legal liability will be much more disastrous for Open-Source vendors than it will be for MS or Sun who make all of their stuff in-house.

    4. Re:Why isn't Microsoft responsible? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "Redhat or Theo de Raadt? Note that the OpenSSH folk (Theo et al) provided a patch really quickly. Redhat was slower. So-- who is responsible?"

      All I know is that I wouldn't write a line of code for the Open Source Community for fear that I'd be held liable for some jackass exploiting it.

  129. Send yourself a Free!! E-Greeting!!! by perp · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recommend NewFunPages for getting lots of spam to an account that never used to get spam.

    Then start clicking on the Unsubscribe links.

    --
    There are two kinds of sysadmins: paranoids and losers. I'm both kinds.
  130. Register a domain by Jester99 · · Score: 1

    The WHOIS database works wonders for ya.

  131. camera phones by bobertlo · · Score: 1

    get someone to send you a picture from a camera phone, after my friend sent me some pics, i got like 20 emails that all look the same, using the name he entered for me.

  132. Want some? by stu_coates · · Score: 1

    Give me your address and I'll send you all of mine... about 300/day! :-(

  133. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny

    That isn't any sort of encrypted text. It is simply a (pathetic) attempt of evading filters...

    You insensitive clod!

    You've ruined the poor boy's dream!

    Just think of the hours of fun he could have had "cracking" the "code".

    Just think of the elaborate code -- and equally elaborate conspiracy behind it -- he might have created in a desperate obsession to make his data fit his theory!

    It could have been a new formularization to rival the Illuminati, Ancient Astronauts, secret codes in the Bible, or some other tortuous, contrived theory! Why, he might even have constructed the ultimate conspirarcy theory, a religion!

    But no! You had to cruelly disillusion him. And rob us of the fruit(iness) of his labors.

    For shame!

  134. ICQ by julianmayer · · Score: 1

    my own expirience with spam is that i'll start getting spam the same day i enter my e-mail adress in the user-details of my icq account. seems like the spammers have some bots to scan all icq-accounts for e-mail adresses

  135. MOD PARENT DOWN... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...for that damn GOATSE link in his sig.

  136. _Nothing_ to show for it? by rxrfrx · · Score: 1

    If you really haven't had any success at all in getting spam (or, say, you've only gotten a couple of spams), you might want to check whether your mail provider is filtering spam for you.

    For example, I can only remember getting maybe one spam email in the past two years of having used my present email account. The account is through my university, which maintains a rather agressive (and effective) anti-spam program.

  137. Regular Junk Mail Works Better. by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    E-mail spam is a lot less useful for revenge. Want to really piss someone off, go to the library, grab as many subsription cards as you can from the magazine section, fill them out and check bill me later. Also all sorts of free samples of things are annoying and can be damn confusing. As a prank i got signed up for some stuff, somehow i got on some list and recieved; condoms, depends, astroglide and menopause medicine. Also if your really out to get someone and want to get them looked at by the feds, sign 'em up for the NAMBLA newsletter or something like that.

    --
    "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
    1. Re:Regular Junk Mail Works Better. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The post office has a nice revenge form called "change of address".

      You put the address of the person you hate at the top, and the place you want their mail to go at the bottom.

  138. try this by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

    Try the unsubscribe pages or links in spam you may already get on your personal email account; just change the email address that might be in the url to your target email.

  139. SpamCop's list of websites == Game Over by Nat3d066y · · Score: 5, Informative

    So you want a lot of spam, do ya?

    http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=inprogress&typ e= www

    That's Spamcop's list of spam-vertised web sites. All of those sites have submission forms; just put the email address in there and you'll be rockin' and rollin' within a few hours. I got into a 'spam war' with one of my roommates back in college, and with that Spamcop list I was able to render his email account COMPLETELY useless within a couple of hours (If you're reading this, sorry 'bout that Brian... )

    Speaking of spam, on a random side note, I've recently started checking all of my email accounts with Shadango.com. Anybody else tried that yet? Shadango allows you to have advanced filtering applied to ALL of your existing accounts (both POP and IMAP). It's frickin' great. So now I don't get any more spam, plus I can check all 5 of my email accounts from one place. They've also got file storage, a calendar, etc. It's money. Check it out.

    -Nate

    1. Re:SpamCop's list of websites == Game Over by sahala · · Score: 1

      i've got an account but it doesn't seem to filter. Any idea why?

  140. emailrevenge.tk by Zoc_All_Alone · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure how effective it is, or if it would change your results, but there is a website geared towards generating spam email. it's called http://www.emailrevenge.tk/.

  141. EzBoard. by mrseigen · · Score: 1

    Why? Because I had an account there. At some point they had a beta board, which had the amazing bug of changing your account's gender to female. The second it does this, I start getting all kinds of female-oriented spam. Hooray for sleazyboard.

  142. spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Research already conducted demonstrated that usenet
    is generally not harvested for spam targets. Especially if the address appears only in the body and not in the headers.

    Similarly, whois registration doesn't yield much spam.

    If you want spam, you need to post your email address to the web in an unobfuscated fashion.

    I suspect completing forms on supposed porn/warez
    sites may also be fruitful.

  143. Opt out of a few things by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 1
    1. Find some known spam that contains an "Opt out" link.
    2. Examine the URL.
    3. If the URL contains an e-mail address, replace it with the spam candidate's address and browse that page.
    4. If the URL is simple, go to that page and enter the spam candidate's address in the provided form.
    5. If the URL contains a complex string of some sort, do not use it. It may be a database lookup for your valid (e.g. non-candidate) address.

    Barring that, find some Yahoo! groups that are sex-related but (a) low traffic, and (b) subscription only. Typically these claim to be for some webcam or exhibitionist. Join up using the spam candidate's address. Odds are you have given your e-mail address to a spammer.

    Go to any sex-related Website that offers free samples in exchange for your e-mail address. Enter the spam candidate's address. You have given the address to a spammer.

    Ask me how I know.

    --
    This is not my sandwich.
  144. Use a simple username part in your address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    5 of the 6 spam mails I got last night went to my student account, where my username is simply daniel.
    It is listed nowhere and I've never really used it.

    My longer main address is in use since November 1999 and yields 13 web and 3 newsgroup results at google. But hardly any spam there, although I've configured it at my ISP to not discard spam.

  145. Be sure to respond... by UrGeek · · Score: 1

    ...to all spam. Just reply with "Please, sir, may I have another!"

  146. sign up for pr0n by oldpelican · · Score: 1

    Go to a couple of pr0n sites that let you in for your e-mail addy, sign up and, in no time, you'll have so many Viagra, penis enlargement, breast enhancement, "hi, sweetie" and other less interesting spam pouring into your machine that your head may melt. And download historyKill, Gator and Bonzi. That ought to do it for you.

  147. slashdot or course by CakerX · · Score: 0

    post it here!

  148. To get SPAM within the hour: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to AIM or AOL chat rooms and post it in there. you'll get spam within a few hours, guaranteed.

  149. Make Enemies by wbren · · Score: 1

    Make some enemies online, and make sure they know your email address. You will magically be subscribed to every porn, viagra, and Nigerian mailing list on the planet.

    --
    -William Brendel
  150. Sign up for a free email account on mail.com by lightspawn · · Score: 1

    And give your old address - you'll get huge amounts of spam on both. It's best to have an eBay ID identical to the email address, just to be on the safe side. Next, order anything from etronics.com.

    These are just my top three based on personal experience, YMMV.

  151. Hotmail Experience by McCarrum · · Score: 1

    My daughter wanted her own email address, and she talks to her friends using messenger, so she signed up at hotmail. She neglected to tick off the 'advertise my email address in the hotmail direcdtory' when she did, and in about 15 minutes, she was swamped - with up to 200 emails a day. Topics included viagra, penis enlargement, US based credit, dipolmas, find-a-fuckbuddy, and so much more.

    I'd advise doing this, and forwarding the mail to your test account.

    1. Re:Hotmail Experience by enchantress42 · · Score: 1

      the other thing I can advise is creating an email address that contains words like "sexy" "baby" "angel" "star" etc because I've often received junkmail that is sent to my email address and email addresses with similar names, and the penis enlargement spam makes up the majority of it so I assume that any remotely sexual references would help.

    2. Re:Hotmail Experience by BadluckShleprock · · Score: 0

      From what I understand, if you create a hotmail account with any common words in it, you'll start getting spam. Patrick Norton on The Screen Savers did just that and within two weeks started receiving mail without ever giving it out to anyone or using it in any forms. So much for the POS spammers saying that the only people that receive junk mail are people that opt-in. They have bots that just create account names to inform all of us how we can enlarge our penis.

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  152. I have a similar type of problem by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 1

    The only time I don't receive AOL CD's in the mail is when I really need some more coasters for my coffee table.

    --
    Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
  153. Good question... by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 1

    Perhaps knowing exactly the sources spammers get addresses from is the most effective way at preventing spam.

    I am sure there are plenty of places we give our email address out that we think are benign, but are not.

  154. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've been getting more and more spam which is HTML encoded. One thing I've noticed is that a lot of them have started inserting HTML comment tags randomly inside words to break them up, like so:

    <html><body>Th<!-- -->is is an illustr<!-- -->ative ex<!-- --&gt>ample of the SP<!-- -->AM I've been reciev<!-- -->ing.</body></html>

    I just filter all HTML messages as SPAM now.
  155. Posting your e-mail address for spam... by daveh_oz · · Score: 1

    Dare I ask: Did he not use an e-mail address from Hotmail? Problem solved.

  156. get spam by buggerdchoirboy · · Score: 1

    Sign up for porn sites and free offers that pop up in your browser. You will get plenty. And once it starts, it will never stop. ;)

  157. Survey says... by cherokee158 · · Score: 1

    Post in on a website. I read a university-run study into sources of spam that concluded that the vast majority of email addresses spammers collect were obtained from websites using automatic bots (the same way search engines catalog sites). I confirmed this myself. My primary email address was being hammered by spam (at least a hundred a day), so I changed addresses and made sure that it remained unposted on any website (in HTML...Flash is safe, at least for now). It has been months since I changed the adress, I have registered for many things on the web since, but have not received a single scrap of spam. The university used far more exhaustive methods to reach the same conclusions, and I can vouch for the results. They did much the same thing you are doing...setting up dummy email accounts and then exposing them to the scrutiny of spammers in a variety of ways. The accounts posted on the web were far and away the most abused. Interestingly, they also found that, once an address is removed from the web, the spam begins to fall off after only a few weeks. Maybe spammers have an artificially short life span? We can only hope...

  158. Re:comp.sys.amiga.games Needs you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about my 'a nullo'?

  159. Shadango.com, fo sheezy.. by KevinHanson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, I got an account on there a couple of months ago. It's definitely very cool.. it can even check Yahoo/Hotmail accounts.

    I always just used my Yahoo account to get spam when I signed up for stuff online. BUT, just today I found out that Shadango allows you to generate temporary, 'disposable' email accounts. See, you generate a random email account, sign up for whatever online (using that new account), and all the crap goes to the temporary account, which you can delete/change at will.

    It has definitely helped to cut down on the amount of spam I get. Kevin Hanson recommends it highly.

    -Kevin

  160. The ultimate way to get tons of spam. by twoslice · · Score: 1

    Post your email address on Slashdot. Have all of the mailserver admins forward all received SPAM to the posted email address before deleting. When the SPAM starts to flow simply reply to every last one of them.

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    From excellent karma to terible karma with a single +5 funny post...
  161. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you happen to live in Soviet Russia?

  162. don't mask your email address on ebay... by almondjoy · · Score: 1

    this will get you added to spam lists fast - make some bids that you know you'll lose on - or post something for sale

    You'll get on every list going

  163. sure fire spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    webmaster@domain_name.com

  164. Here's How the Gubment Did It by jengod · · Score: 1

    http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/spamalr t.htm

  165. My unofficial experiment... by Stalus · · Score: 1

    I registered my domain about a year and a half ago, and used different addresses for each thing I used and then set the catch all account to go to an address called junkmail. The nice part about this is I could see where the spam was coming from.

    I get no spam to my primary address, which only my friends and family have for the most part. Websites I've registered with send me an e-mail a month related to their sites, but I haven't gotten any spam on those addresses from anyone else. The e-mail on my resume gets about half a dozen per month and they're related to job-finding services.

    So where's the actual spam coming to? Almost entirely to the address posted on the main page of my website. I occasionally get an e-mail to just some random address.. and I get a very tiny amount to an address I used in a campus newsgroup which usually isn't visible off campus. So basically, it's all spiders snagging addresses.

  166. About this free p0rn idea..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, if a person signs up for free p0rn, they get spam?

    But, do they actually get the free p0rn or not?

    50 spams per booby sounds fair to me

  167. Online Greeting Cards by EelBait · · Score: 1

    To get signed up for spam, you need to post your email address in the same places that AOL lusers would. For instance, Greeting Cards, Online Games (not battle.net) like those at excite.com. Take some surveys at emode.com. Click on various ads and fill out their forms. In about a couple weeks you should start seeing tons of spam.

  168. usenet:news.admin.net-abuse.email by brassman · · Score: 1

    You do not have to taint your results by signing up for anything.

    Just a few posts to that newsgroup and you'll hear back from all the organ enhancers, Nigerian widows and orphans, and other scammers you could ever want, 100% unsolicited.

    --
    "Ain't no right way to do a wrong thing."
  169. The Obvious Step by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    I suppose there's some reason you aren't taking the obvious step of either just using your personal e-mail account for your study.

    Or just forward what you get from your personal account to your study account.

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  170. Recently I have been receiving spam straight by chickenrob · · Score: 1

    From my "isp" comcast. Oh wait, my mistake. Turns out this is just a "special offer for our important customers" -robbie

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    People say my sig is the best thing about me.
  171. Porn Sites by TheLostStooge · · Score: 1

    Sign up for some porn accounts. They LOVE selling your name, but you will have something to keep you busy while you wait for the spam to roll in.

    --
    .adios/losers ~snake
  172. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by Feztaa · · Score: 1

    The funny part is, the bayesian filters will recognise the "random" letters as being gibberish and will filter against it.

  173. free shadango account? by Brainiac252 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yo, I was involved in the alpha testing of shadango awhile ago. When I signed up I used the word "alphabase" in the promotional code box. It got me a paid tester account...i think it might still work. From my experience Shadango is definitely worth the try. Ian Welsh

  174. Easy way to attract spam for filter testing by CEO+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Look up FFA on google and submit your E-Mail to thier forms. You should within minutes get a constant stream of spam that will never ever end.

    1. Re:Easy way to attract spam for filter testing by king+squid · · Score: 1

      I assume you meant free for alls, but I can picture a lot of people wandering around ffa.org wondering where the spam is :)

  175. How about here? by WiggyWack · · Score: 1

    Well, you could post the e-mail address right here on Slashdot. I'm sure we could help you out. :)

    --
    Macintosh humor! MacComedy.com
  176. Threaten a few of the better-known spammers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Preferrably flame a couple of them on usenet, using your spam-harvester email address. That should reward you with a couple of joe-jobs. Presto, spam coming out of your ears.

  177. SPAM is EASY by CALBIZ · · Score: 0

    Just get hold of anyone's SPAM, email the person or company back threatening to sue them for use of your account and harassment. You will then receive 100's of SPAMs shortly thereafter.

  178. Guestbook sigs. by Lester67 · · Score: 1

    Sign some guestbooks that publish email addresses. The guestbook.pl script from Matt's Script Archive seems to attract them.

  179. SELL SOMETHING ON EBAY! by Zathras11 · · Score: 1

    Sorry for the caps... Seriously, ever since I
    began selling on eBay the two e-mail accounts I
    use for that have been drenched in Spam. I'm
    getting 10 copies of the Swen/Swan thing each
    day! Just list something cheap, and include
    your e-mail account. They WILL find you! :^)

    1. Re:SELL SOMETHING ON EBAY! by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, within about 10 minutes of signing up, you should get your first spam.

      --
      Oh well, what the hell...
    2. Re:SELL SOMETHING ON EBAY! by DittoToo · · Score: 1

      Did you mention that you're the biggest, lying, piece of excrement in the entire Ebay system?

  180. comegetme@Phreaker.net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    comegetme@Phreaker.net

  181. Set your browsers profile to match by Halvard · · Score: 1

    the address you want to receive spam on. Then surf away, on news sites, porn sites, etc. I bet you'll get lots of spam.

  182. just copy my research by hhknighter · · Score: 1

    spam (online advertisement via Email) research
    v1.0 final

    Spam SUCKS

    end of research

  183. Symantic Police here by kramer2718 · · Score: 1

    It's affect. The fucking verb you want to use is affect. Effect as a verb means to cause to come into being. Spam does not effect bait e-mail accounts. It affects bait e-mail accounts....

    While I'm on the matter, good is not an adverb it's an adjective. Please use it accordingly. If you want to use it as an adverb, don't. Use well, instead. Grrrr.

    Sorry, that really gets under my skin.

    1. Re:Symantic Police here by gunner800 · · Score: 1
      It's affect. The fucking verb you want to use is affect. Effect as a verb means to cause to come into being. Spam does not effect bait e-mail accounts. It affects bait e-mail accounts....


      Way to put that Karma bonus to good use...

      The researcher has created a bait account because of spam, so I could argue that spam did effect the account. Similarly, I create a new daily-use account every few years because of spam, so spam has effect the majority of my accounts..

      Actually, I had the wrong definitions drilled in at an early age and spent years "correcting" people who were using it right.
    2. Re:Symantic Police here by dosius · · Score: 2, Funny

      And while we're at it, it's semantic ;)

      -uso.

      --
      What you hear in the ear, preach from the rooftop Matthew 10.27b
    3. Re:Symantic Police here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's nothing worse than people say stupid shit like "I did good"

  184. off-topic, but... by FxChiP · · Score: 1

    Another good use for spam e-mails is (surprise) they can nab you a very good list of proxy servers if you look at the headers. :)

  185. post an article on slashdot with your email. by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

    When one of my articles got accepted with
    a traceable email address, i started getting
    10+ emails a day to jonslash@directfreight.com
    an address i used just for that purpose.

  186. I think this has been covered already ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here , and here , and here too ...

  187. All you need to do by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Register a domain with Verisign, and put your target address as a contact for that domain.

    1. Re:All you need to do by Hurga · · Score: 1

      Who modded that funny? I'm getting most of my spam on the address I used for registering domains at Networksolutions (and no where else).

      Hanno

    2. Re:All you need to do by your_mother_sews_soc · · Score: 1

      Simon, I am surprised that your post was modded to Funny. As soon as I saw this topic I thought "Let me look at all the posts and do a Find for 'Verisign'."

      If you want SPAM, as far as I am concerned, register a domain with Verisign. When I did a few years ago my spam went from 0 pieces a day to in the neighborhood of 30 a day now. And I am just a nobody. I don't post on newsgroups, or have only done so a few times. But within days of registering my domain the floodgates opened. It wasn't hard to see the correlation.

      Maybe things have gotten better (with Network Solutions), but dotster gets my business now.

      --
      My user name was a mistake. Input wasn't restricted, my bad.
  188. You can find plenty of spam here. by trink · · Score: 1

    Sign up at http://www.coolsavings.com and you should be able to harvest about 100-200 spam messages a day.

  189. THE BEAST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should never link to sci...sci...the unholy creature! They are evil, may google be with you. I have never been here, of course. *me burning my house down and preparing to leave the continent*

  190. Some solutions by nuwayser · · Score: 2, Informative
    --
    "The cup... the drop... it's a YES!"
    1. Re:Some solutions by nuwayser · · Score: 1

      4. Also you could post to lots of usenet groups using the email capture addy as your email address.

      --
      "The cup... the drop... it's a YES!"
  191. Sign up with Comcast, they'll sell you out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast issues an email address with a cable account. I have never used mine ever, for anything. Spam piles up in it reliably.

  192. Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simply, just sign up for AOL. I signed up a freind and within 5 minutes of picking his "sign in" name he had at least 10 Spams. Don't ask me how !

  193. BlueCat Networks....masters at combatting SPAM by RazorJ_2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    BlueCat Networks www.bluecatnetworks.com have this really cool product called Meridius. It's an anti-SPAM Mail Relay appliance. Typically sits in the DMZ. Why don't you contact them and ask them about SPAM?

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    pi=sigma{n:0-infinity}[(1/16)^n][(4/(8n+1))-(2/(8n +4))-(1/ (8n+5))-(1/(8n+6))]
  194. Attractive Nuisance (was Re:Outlook...) by Tripp+Lilley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What you're describing is called the attractive nuisance doctrine , and really only applies to the situation with the neighborhood kid, not to an adult upon whom different expectations are placed.

    One could argue that the real issue is negligence , but proving negligence turns on the phrase (from the referenced definition) "the care of a reasonably prudent or ordinarily careful person in the circumstances".

    It's unclear whether or not you'd be able to point to an "average user" and call them "ordinarily careful", in which case you'd definitely be doing about what's average. It might, instead, turn out that the court would say "you're a professional, a sysadmin, and we hold you to a higher standard of "reasonable prudence" by virtue of your knowledge of the consequences. This would be analogous to the trained fighter or black belt getting into a fistfight and whaling on some poor schmoe. Regardless of who "started it", the fighter is going to be held to a higher standard of control and "carefulness".

    Of course, that said, you could also use a defense based on trespass, in which you argue that, because the attacker was not authorized to use your system, as long as you weren't specifically stockpiling "munitions" there :-), you're not liable for the attacks based out of your system. I'm not sure what case law in the real world says about this. If you left your front door open and a sniper walked in, sat down in your living room, and started taking potshots at passers-by, would you be liable? Would the court say that, because you failed to lock your door, or deadbolt it, or whatever, you were negligent?

    Tough to say, these days.

    Thankfully, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't have to worry about such weighty theoretical issues :-)

  195. You want spam? by myov · · Score: 1

    There's always spamyousilly, although they seem to have disappeared. If it wasn't for their confirmation email, I would have subscribed a few former clients already and watched their mail servers explode... :)

    Create a webmaster@you.com account. Place it all over your web site. Bonus if your web site is on a dedicated IP (reachable by the IP sweepers)

    Or you could just click the remove link in the spam you do receive.

    --
    I use Macs to up my productivity, so up yours Microsoft!
  196. BUT--Washing your car in order to make it rain... by karlandtanya · · Score: 1
    ...does not work.


    mportant Stuff:
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  197. No spam? Try e-cards :) by cappie · · Score: 1

    Want spam? Try ecards, or adding your address on the hotmail addressbook.. or what about making it your microsoft passport address? register for MSN and use the email account which you want to be bombed :)

  198. Free For All Lists!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instant SPAM guaranteed!! And more than you can handle.

  199. @hotmail by Unregistered · · Score: 1

    just email someone at hotmail. You'll get lots of spam form then on.

  200. Outlook = Virus? by chiasmus1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Perhaps not criminally illegal, but I believe the owner could certainly be held liable for damages. Imagine if a virus writer put a destructive virus on a stack of floppies and left them precariously around a public computer lab. When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?

    I agree with you, but at the same time I also believe the issue is not the same. The machine with Outlook installed is what Microsoft provided. Using your arguments you could argue that installing Outlook on a machine is the same thing as putting a destructive virus on a floppy and leaving it in public place. Wouldn't the creator of the software/virus be held liable?

    1. Re:Outlook = Virus? by penguinstorm · · Score: 1

      Using your arguments you could argue that installing Outlook on a machine is the same thing as putting a destructive virus... And really, you're arguing there is a difference?

      --
      Skot Nelson music is my saviour / i was maimed by rock and roll
    2. Re:Outlook = Virus? by TheMidget · · Score: 1
      Using your arguments you could argue that installing Outlook on a machine is the same thing as putting a destructive virus on a floppy and leaving it in public place. Wouldn't the creator of the software/virus be held liable?

      At the risk of being modded down as redundant, but it can't be said often enough:

      Yes, the creator of the software/virus should be held liable.
      In both cases.

    3. Re:Outlook = Virus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Microsoft's shrinkwrap license said they weren't liable!

      Surely the license is worth more than the shrinkwrap it's encased in!

      (cough)

      Sometimes I think click-through agreements aren't even worth the effort it takes to click through the agreement. If a hijacked system clicks through the agreement, who agreed? The system owner? The hijacker? To be honest, MS's legal legions would have you believe the former.

  201. click on it... by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    and see who it's to :)

    --
    It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
  202. Sign up for Giganews by HalB · · Score: 1

    With Comcast internet, you have to sign up with Giganews to get Usenet news. Before signing up with Giganews, I got 0 spam emails. After signing up with Giganews, I get tons of spam.

    I don't use the email account at all, and didn't give it out to anyone except Giganews, who requires it for service.

    1. Re:Sign up for Giganews by jimbrewer · · Score: 1

      You are not required to use it to post, only to sign up. I've had the comcast/giganews combo for about three months and the only two messages in the mailbox are a welcome from Comcast and a confirmation from Giga.

  203. Better spam generators. by Roanna · · Score: 1

    E-cards are technically opt-in by deceit.

    Try http://www.luckysurf.com

    Also sign Bravenet and Lycos guestbooks. You
    can start with this site

    http://www.4chloe.com or
    http://www.godhearsyou.com

    When you get done, visit a web site of someone who has signed the book and sign their book and then chain through that book to a third site etc... You should start seeing spam shortly.

    Eileen H. Kramer/Roanna
    ehkuhall7@tacheiru.every1.net

    PS I use a white list because you know what kind of troubles my inbox has.

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  204. alt.business.* comes to mind. by dbirchall · · Score: 1

    There are plenty of con men and spammers there (in fact, I'd say there are few who aren't one or the other). Try groups with names like alt.business.home.pc or whatever. Oh, and if there's an alt.make-money-fast... ;)

  205. You want Spam? Try these things. by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

    #1 Create web pages with your email address on them, and submit them to various search engines. Wait a few weeks for them to index the page.

    #2 Enter the address into your web browser for Anonymous FTP access and access a lot of anonymos FTP sites. Enter it as a default address and visit a lot of web pages and see if the bots pick it up.

    #3 Enter the address into ICQ, YIM, IRC, AIM, Jabber, and other chat clients. Join massive discussions. Someone is bound to harvest your email address.

    #4 Register the address with various web sites, and be sure to mark the "do not send my account email" options. They will instead sell your account to others. Register it with Microsoft, Yahoo, AOL, and many other companies. Make sure you checked the "Do not contact me" or whatever options.

    #5 Post messages on Yahoo Groups, and Web Forums using that address. Someone will pick it up and spam you.

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  206. Recipe for Spam by RichardY · · Score: 1

    The simplist way to get spammed is as follws; 1) Join Hotmail. By default your address is publically available (Have a look in the options page of Hotmail!) 2) Wait for the first couple of spam messages and then reply asking them to bugger off and get a life. 3)Wait for the deluge.

  207. www.mail.com by Sara+Chan · · Score: 1

    Go to www.mail.com. Sign up for an e-mail account (it's free and quick). Send mail from that account to some (other) e-mail address. The other e-mail address will then be getting lots of spam (for online casinos).

  208. Use your email on an instant messaging system. by YoungHack · · Score: 1

    You can get spam quick by simpling listing
    your email address in your "personal info"
    with an instant messaging service like ICQ.
    I have experienced this personally, and I
    have also seen magazine articles stating that
    this is the worst place to let your addr get
    out.

  209. Kick back and relax by retro128 · · Score: 1

    I have submitted a few articles to a handful of Usenet groups....

    Now just wait...Your job is done. But I get the impression you are not getting results fast enough. No problem! Just post an item on eBay with your real email address. If you don't like eBay, just go with any company that says in their privacy policy "We will never never never never never ever sell your email address"...They are just waiting to rope the suckers.

    But if you really think you have a badass mail server, sign up with Earthlink. Don't say I didn't warn you though.

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    -R
  210. Sign Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sign up for a free pr0n site yuo will have a box full tomorrow.

  211. Post to the FFA(Free For All) lists for spam by Teravus+Ovares · · Score: 1

    Post to the FFA Lists if you want spam. A good place to do that is http://www.worldsubmitter.com/ WorldSubmitter is a bot that posts a site of your choosing to multiple multiple lists. Each of these lists produces tons of spam. I posted there 15 months ago, and I'm still getting at least one spam message an hour from one of those lists.

  212. The Library? by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

    ...When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?...

    Nope! Clearly it's the library's fault for maintaining machines with floppy drives capable of running the virus!

  213. I doubt the bots check by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    If I was blackmailed into writing a spambot, I sure as hell wouldn't write a good one.

    --
    You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
  214. AOL by dwhittington · · Score: 1
    Dude. Get an AOL account.

    You've got SPAM!

  215. MySQL mailing list by vandan · · Score: 1

    Try posting to the mysql mailing list.
    There are a few fuckers that scan the list every couple of hours. Each time I post, I get a flurry of spam coming in over the next few hours, which dies down to the usual 1-2 per hour until I post to the list again...

  216. another spam experiment by dav1ross · · Score: 1

    here's a post from the isp-tech mailing list where someone asked basically the same question, and got many responses; within a few hours the spam was flowing at the rate of 1 per minute!

  217. Chat by xmpcray · · Score: 1

    Give out your email id on public chats/IRC, spam bots will definitely pick it up...

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  218. On Slashdot!?! by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't have a girlfriend, YIC.

    1. Re:On Slashdot!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I *am* a girlfriend, you insensitive clod! *slaps you with my purse*

  219. Sony by __david__ · · Score: 1

    Go sign up for an account at playstation.com. I gave them a +sony tag when I signed up for my account and now I started to get spam from that address. I always make sure I uncheck those "can we give your address to our affiliates" boxes, too.

    Bastards!

    -David

  220. Hmmm...where to submit e-mail address to... by EaTiN+cOfFeE+bEaNs · · Score: 1

    Where should I post my address so that it attracts spam?

    pr0n sites, perhaps?

    --
    No TiVo and no caffeine make me something something...
  221. Go check joe@mailinator.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go check joe at www.mailinator.com .. there is always plenty there (fred and bob seem to do pretty well too)

  222. Set a "Vacation Message" by Little+Brother · · Score: 1

    To maximize Spam on an account that already gets SOME spam, set up an autoreply "vacation" message. (Many ISP's have this feature, or you can write a script). You something that says "I'm on vacation right now, I'll read your email on " Or somesuch. This is the easiest way to reply to all your spam emails which will automaticly bump your name up on their list, because it shows that your email address is still somewhat active (if the date is somewhat near even humans will assume this). Also, if you have budget for such, buy things from spamming companys, if possible let them know how you heard about their great product.

    --

    Little Brother, watching the watchers

  223. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by ceejayoz · · Score: 1

    Right - 'tis the spam arms race.

    I suppose the filters that get tricked are the ones on big ISPs that look for completely identical e-mails going to large numbers of their users.

  224. freaking duh by XO · · Score: 1

    go sign up at some Pr0N! sites!! jesus.

    --
    "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  225. How to get spam report by mrv · · Score: 1

    This report from the Center for Democracy and Technology pretty much addresses how to get spam:
    http://www.cdt.org/speech/spam/030319spamreport.sh tml titled "Why Am I Getting All This Spam?"

    The report was covered by slashdot quite a few times...
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04 /22/135421 5
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/12/144 220 6
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/19/173 624 9

    --
    -mrv
  226. I know what you did wrong by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Your mistake was putting pictures on your website showing them how large your penis already is, showing your rent receipts indicating you don't need to refinance, and that you hate Nigerians and Microsoft update PIFs with equal passion.

  227. Getting Free spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good ways to receive spam.
    Open a hotmail account and forward on mail from that to your account.

    Reply to what ever spam you do get and you will for sure get heaps more.

    Post a resume on a searchable website with the email address you want spammed.

    Have a website with a page full of your email address pasted all up and down the page.

    Anything online that is publicly Searchable and visible should yield good spams.

  228. Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use a simple name at a simple domain. john@somwhere.net for examaple. The domain name isnt as important as having a common name. The bots will take care of the rest.

  229. I can help you by schnits0r · · Score: 1

    How about I just automatically use your email address for the things I do. Then watch you Spam keep rolling in.

  230. You missed your chance... by Spinality · · Score: 1

    ...you should have included your address within the text of your slashdot message. That would have worked. Clearly, from the various cited studies on /. and elsewhere, the most certain source of spam is getting your email address displayed in the clear on a public site that bots crawl over.

    That's how all the bastards got me (my past email got unexpectedly included in archives that subsequently were hosted on web servers).

    --
    -- We all have enough strength to endure the misfortunes of other people. La Rochefoucauld
  231. Spam Like Crazy by willmeister · · Score: 1

    If you want spam just go into an aol chat room and you will be set for life, in terms of spam, that is.

  232. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by refactored · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Are they really that lame?

    It wouldn't stop any spam filter I have seen.

    Ah well, probably some ISP out there has such a silly filter.

    I was envisioning something smarter along the lines of hidden fields (have a look at ye average web form , a lot of them have hidden fields to hold state and tracking info).

    For example as I type this, let me look at the "Page Source". Ooo lookee, on slashdot itself....

    <input TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="formkey" VALUE="wkbUcMWxhR">

    I'm thinking along the lines of...

    If builders built the way programmers wrote then the first woodpecker to come along would destroy all of civilization

    ie. Workout the encoding for the hidden fields and tweak them to freak out any automated processing software the spammers use.

    A similar idea is to feed carefully crafted cookies to web servers to crack them.

    For example, I would guess that the spammers spam each newsgroup / discussion list with a slightly different URL, the URL goes exactly the same place but records which spam campaign produced the best results.

    Now tweak that URL in crafty ways and you may DoS their server.

  233. Time! It take time! by Unreal+One · · Score: 1

    While a new address might be have a chance at being picked up and used immediately, it seems to me that time is what it takes before you start receiving the '100's of e-mails' a day. See I would highly doubt that the people collecting e-mails are the same people that are actually sending the spam. It seems to me that you have the people that harvest the e-mails, and sell them on cd's and what not to the marketing folks. They buy the cd's with 4-jillion e-mail addresses for $99.95, and start the mailing. At least this is how I've always perceived this 'industry'.

  234. click here to be removed by alabrunda · · Score: 1

    Follow the "click here to be removed" link. Then add you spamtrap account.

  235. meetup.com by RealisticWeb.com · · Score: 1

    The only thing that gets me more spam than posting on slashdot is my slashdot.meetup.com membership. I made a very wise decision to use a separate email addy for that one, and that has saved me a lot of headache. If you want spam, sign up for that! Also go around posting to every forum you can find and put your email at the bottom of the post.

    --
    Sigs are out of style, so I'm not going to use one...oh wait..
    1. Re:meetup.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man that really sucks. I feel for you.

  236. Another Spam source by Tomorrowist · · Score: 1
    As I have a URL all to myself, I can track spam by using different usernames. I get spam from posting emails in public forums.
    • I get spam to HometownNewspaperReader@mydomain.com. I posted a response to an article.
    • I get spam to Blog1Reader@mydomain.com and Blog2Reader@mydomain.com. Again, I posted responses in the reader comment sections.
    As mentioned above, it takes time for the spam to roll in. But it does roll in.
    --
    Trolling for karma since 2003.
  237. subject: porn by softspokenrevolution · · Score: 1

    Sign up for lots of free porn I guess. Put your address out there and keep trying, maybe you could sell it to some of those directories and make a little money on the side.

  238. I've got heaps 2347 messages in ... by chris_sawtell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... 22Megs, because I've been saving it to train Spamoricle.
    Post your e-mail address here and I'll send the spam.tar.bz2 file to it.

    There, what could be more helpful?

  239. I didn't see anybody post this method... by PhoenixOne · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...but I'm not reading every post. ;)

    The best (worse?) way to get spammed is to fill out online survey. You know those free online IQ tests with the inflated scores (I scored 182 and I have problems doing my taxes ;))? If you use your real email address you will feel very dumb about a week later when your mailbox fills up with "Get a collAge degree at home!!" mails. ;)

    Also start sending those cute greeting card emails to yourself. Most of those are just collectors for emails.

    I think they stopped cruising USENET for emails. To few people use their actual emails there anymore...

    --
    Spell cheek you've failed me four the last thyme!
  240. How I seeded my spamtrap.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seeded my spamtrap by taking all of those 'unsubscribe' links from all of the spam in my inbox and putting my spamtrap address in the box

    This means that any spammer who uses unsubscribe links to gather and verify email addresses has my spamtrap address, but anyone who removes addresses via their unsubscribe link does not..

    My spamtrap is now on most of the " xx Million guaranteed opt-in email addresses CDs", so I get lots of fresh spam to test my spam filters with every day.

    Any spam that gets through is added to as many blackhole lists as I can add them to.

  241. Sign up for a pr0n website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a postmaster of a small company, one time this happened.
    A collegue 'suddenly' received huge amounts of spam. One day it was zero to none, the other day (and every day after it) he got tons of spam (at least 50 a day).
    He wondered why.

    After a lot of research I found out he had been a paying member of a pr0n site for one month, after he quit his subscription, the spam started pouring in.

  242. It'll take time by trenton · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You've got to understand how the system works. The same people (or system) that collects email addresses won't be the ones to send it. Consumer/producer model.

    I'm sure your now addresses have been harvested by a number of systems already. You'll have to wait, though for a client to buy a list, or another wave of mailings to go out before one is sent to you.

    --
    Too big to fail? Does that make me to small to succeed?
  243. Re:Any honeypot will do by terminal.dk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I tried to put up what looked like an open proxy on port 8080, which simulated the right error codes in in case people connected to port 25 out in town.

    Within a week I was getting 100.000 spam mails a day. Within 2 weeks I was over 1 million spam mails a day.

    So just pretend to have an open mail server, and you can get all the spam you want, and harvest all the addresses you care about.

  244. This is a FAQ ... by ThePythonicCow · · Score: 1

    There's an FAQ covering this:

    How do spammers get people's email addresses ?
    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq/harvest/

    It lists and describes the following mechanisms:

    1. From posts to UseNet with your email address.
    2. From mailing lists.
    3. From web pages.
    4. From various web and paper forms.
    5. Via an Ident daemon.
    6. From a web browser.
    7. From IRC and chat rooms.
    8. From finger daemons.
    9. AOL profiles.
    10. From domain contact points.
    11. By guessing & cleaning.
    12. From white & yellow pages.
    13. By having access to the same computer.
    14. From a previous owner of the email address
    15. Using social engineering.
    16. Buying lists from others.
    17. By hacking into sites.

    This FAQ also has a number of useful links
    to other spam resources.

  245. Bugzilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sign up for a Bugzilla account over at Mozilla. Every single spam I have received in the last 8 months has been directed at this one address.

  246. sign up for Audiogalaxy by kenthu · · Score: 1

    A good deal of my spam these days comes from the email address I used solely to sign up for Audiogalaxy.

  247. Dear Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Recently, based on what turned out to be false intelligence reports, I ordered the invasion of another country, resulting in thousands of deaths and widespread hardship. Did I do something wrong?

    ---
    The Original Anonymous Coward

  248. You can sign up for Spam here by Berkana · · Score: 1

    ToastedSpam.com has a page called Free spam! that has a massive list of web sites where you can sign up for spam.

  249. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by Magnus+Reftel · · Score: 1

    A similar idea is to feed carefully crafted cookies to web servers to crack them.

    For example, I would guess that the spammers spam each newsgroup / discussion list with a slightly different URL, the URL goes exactly the same place but records which spam campaign produced the best results.

    Now tweak that URL in crafty ways and you may DoS their server.

    Not necessarily. The proper way to do that kind of thing is to use rather large prime numbers as ID tokens, and have a mapping from random number token to whatever ID number you use internally. If the tokenspace is sparse, then spotting modifications is trivial, since they (most likely) won't have mappings.

    --
    print "Yet another p{erl,ython} hacker\n",
  250. That's the most disgusting thing I've seen. by pr0ntab · · Score: 1

    All you have to do is scrape crappy Carlton cards for sappy sayings and you can get the email addresses of hundreds of unuspected lusers.

    If there was a slashdot DDoS service, that'd page would be right at the top of my shit/wishlist. I'd better get cracking writing a smashing article for the front page.

    Know any good dirt on 'em? ;-)

    --
    Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
  251. I have several email accounts that only get spam by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 1

    I have several email addresses that do absolutely nothing but get spam. They're the byproduct of examples in The Idocs Guide to HTML. I currently forward the email to /dev/null. I'd be happy to forward them to you instead.

    --
    I've found that my posts don't format quite right w/o a sig.
  252. I submitted to slashdot... by phorm · · Score: 1

    and forgot to emasculate my email address. Luckily, it was a generic slashdot@mydomain.com.
    Well, my first clue that my article had been accepted was that when my "slashdot@mydomain.com" address started coming in with loads of spam (forwarded to my main address, which I quickly turned off).

    Perhaps you should have put a link to email you in your article, I'm sure you'll be seeing lots of spam afterwards

    It seems that even spammers do read slashdot, or at least have bots hoarding emails here... good reason for regular users to use an obfuscated email address...

    1. Re:I submitted to slashdot... by phorm · · Score: 1

      D'oh. Will apologies to the preview gods... a tag is a poor substitute for a
      tag. Please forgive my boldness...

  253. A hack for getting spam into a honeypot. by Berkana · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's a neat trick that I figured out for building a "honeypot filter" that identifies and blocks all incoming mail that matches the spam harvested in a honeypot e-mail address before any e-mail is delivered to personal mail accounts. Since the honeypot address is used for nothing else but harvesting spam, using the spam received in the honeypot to identify and block incoming spam guarantees that there will be never be false positives (which is more than most filters can say). If the honeypot is being spammed by the worst offenders, you can be sure the spam that is being received there is being sent to millions of others. This honeypot technique is one of the simplest solutions for reliably blocking spam, but it is contingent on having the honeypot being very thoroughly spammed.

    So, here's the hack for getting a honeypot address into the databases of real spammers.

    First, you need an existing address that is thoroughly infested with spam. If you look at most spams, they usually have some thing at the bottom that says something to the effect of "click here to be removed from our mailing list."

    In some of the spams that I've looked at, the link has CGI script variables in the URL. You'll probably see the e-mail address in one of the fields. Replace this e-mail address with the address of the honeypot address, and go to that site.

    The page you go to will usually have two options: "remove me from your list" and "Please continue to alert me of special offers". Select the latter, and submit the form. The e-mail address you substituted into the CGI script will probably start receiving spam real soon.

    Some spammers will spam you even more if you click on the "remove me" list, because it just proves that the address is live. Before you click on the link, copy it, and edit the field in the CGI script that looks like an e-mail address, substituting the honeypot address for the one in the link. Then, go to the URL and "remove" yourself. You are likely to just start getting spam in the honeypot, especially from unscrupulous spammers.

  254. Geeks are inquisitve... by 4mn0t1337 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Heh... you put a label like that on something and the first thing I think of is

    hmmmm... this must do something really interesting to the computer or disk to have a warning like that...

    Next step would be to see if I could induce what the intent behind the restriction would be. If I couldn't reason it out, then I might be tempted to try to dupe the disc and put it in another computer (*Always* mount a scratch monkey.)

    In fact, putting an admonition involving tech in front of a geek is like putting something bright and shinny in front of some people.

    but on the other hand you just found a way to physically "tar pit" a geek for a better part of an hour....

    --

    ______
    Once: you're a philosopher. Twice: a pervert.

  255. Other things might help by MickLinux · · Score: 1

    Okay, if you need spam:

    (1) Get a Hotmail account, and send an email to the account that needs spam.

    (2) Send lots of e-cards from different sources to yourself. Then recieve the announcement emails, connect through from that address, and read the cards.

    (3) Get friends who have problems such that they keep installing Windows viruses to their computers [repeatedly!] to email your address once or twice.

    (4) Look for info about the wthunk32.dll and c:\msdos.exe worm. Install that to a second computer, and make sure that the second computer has your target email address in its address book (and no other). You'll start recieving tons of spam, all nominally from different sources, but in reality from your infected computer.

    --
    Correct Horse Battery Staple: 72 bits of entropy. Enter "Correct H" into google. When it generates the phrase, that's
  256. Spammers abusing Secondary MX records by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I wish you were right that spamware doesn't understand them. There's one recently popular trick which is the realization that secondary MX servers often don't have the same level of checking that primary ones do - so if you want to spam a company's users, or especially if you want to dictionary-attack them, and they've got a secondary MX service from somebody else, spam it instead of their primary.

    One of my customers buys low-priced secondary MX from us just in case something goes wrong with their main mailserver. (We also sell spam filtering service, but they weren't using it, preferring to do their own.) We started getting dictionary attacks with thousands of attempts per minute. Their main mailserver has a [brand name deleted] spam-filter box as the front end and an older Exchange server at the back end, and the spam-filter falls over and dies when we dump the whole load on them. And their exchange server is apparently too old and lame to hand us or their spam filter box a list of valid usernames, so there's no easy way to kill it off early, and their spam-filter box's alternative to reading every message is to blacklist our mail server in self-defense. (Unfortunately, they've got customers who use our mailfilter, so that fails too...) We're turning on our spam filtering for them and hoping the rule sets are good enough without bothering their legitimate users.

    There are ways to reduce the problems - rate-limiting the connections from us to them would have done it, but that means that real mail can get trapped behind a few weeks' supply of dictionary-attack spam, so that was unacceptable, and doing _something_ to get a vaguely accurate user list is out of process for them, and buying a different spam filter box would make them feel dumb and grouchy, and putting a front-end spam filter box between ours and theirs will not only make them feel grouchy, it'll cut down on clues they've got about where mail comes from. Nasty stuff.

  257. My Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Web Forumes
    2) Online Buy/Sell boards
    3) Slashdot articles

    Will get you about 60-70 per day .

  258. just give us your email address by thomas_klopf · · Score: 1

    You want spam? Just post your email address in the threads on Slashdot :) You think we're a bunch of computer geeks posting these messages? Hell no, we're a bunch of spammers - this whole website is just a big ruse to harvest email addresses ;).

  259. Re:BUT--Washing your car in order to make it rain. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The hell it doesn't! I washed my car this afternoon, left the windows down so the doors would "air out" (some water always seeps past the seals), and within a matter of a couple hours it started pouring.

  260. Usenet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All my spam seems to come from a posting I made on comp.sys.sgi.marketplace, and a geocities web page I foolishly left an email address on. Luckily I used a made-up tracker email so it filters easily.
    Try leaving your email address in a reply to one of the 'spambot snacks' or 'Warez list 200x' messages on usenet, or "unsubscribing" to a spam list if you really want spam.

  261. hahaha by GregoryD · · Score: 1
    Let my mother use the account for a month.

    She visited me recently and I watched her clear out her email. I don't know how it is possible to get that much spam. She had over 300+ new mails in ONE DAY.

    She complains that I never email her. Well, I do, but it bounces back all the time because of her account limit. And even if it did go though, I doubt she would see it in that mass spam.

    She wonders why I get angry when she puts my email in those "send this to a friend" boxes of an interesting site.

  262. Re:Any honeypot will do by IKEA-Boy · · Score: 1

    So just pretend to have an open mail server, and you can get all the spam you want, and harvest all the addresses you care about.

    This is a great idea for constructing a Blacklist. Just set up a fake open relay, don't list it in any MX records so people have no business connecting to it. And Blacklist anyone who tries to send mail through it. Is anyone doing this yet?

  263. THIS REALLY WORKS!!! by Gnavpot · · Score: 1

    1. You submit a patch to the developer of some open source webtool.

    2. The developer adds you to his "Thank you to" list in the documentation - not by name but by email address.

    3. Thousands of users of the webtool include the documentation, including your email address, on their websites.

    4. ???

    5. Profit

    Worked for me. I destroyed my email address at work that way. Suddenly Google told me it was mentioned on thousands of websites.

    And it was really an insignificant patch, not worth all that publicity.

  264. Two Suggestions by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    I know about two effective ways to attract spam:

    1. Use Hotmail. Register for an account, and spam will come your way. You don't have to do anything else.

    2. Use your email address to get access to free (beer) stuff. I tried this with porn sites, and they keep sending me spam even though the address no longer exists and mail sent there is bounced.

    Just my 0.02 euros.

    --
    Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
  265. You can have my spam. by davesag · · Score: 1
    I have a few email addresses that get some hundreds of spam per day. I am happy to adjust my mail server to redirect these to your email address if you like. I tried redirecting it to spamcop but they only accept forwards, not redirercts so instead of the spam i just got hundreds of spamcop error notices. but go to my website, use the email address listed on there to contact me directly and I will make the changes to divert as much of my spam as I can to you. you'll be doing me a huge favour.

    cheers

    dave

    --
    I used to have a better sig than this, but I got tired of it
  266. attract more spam by oohp · · Score: 1

    Put your e-mail address on a high traffic web site with a mailto: link. Probably putting you're e-amil address in your slashdot signature and writing a lot of comments will help too. Spammers will eventually scan it and log it.

  267. Got Spam? by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 3, Informative

    "In a complete twist to what everybody else is trying to do these days, I need to attract spam to an e-mail address...


    Much harder than it seems. A spam trap address can take months or even years to get up to the same levels of spam as other addresses.

    Some techniques;
    Unsubscribe the address.
    Apart from proving that some spammers actually do harvest from unsubscribes, this method isn't very effective, because some spammers actually do remove you from their lists.
    (of course, if you only unsubscribe addresses that don't get any spam, it can't get worse.)

    Dictionary attacks. If you run a mail server, you will occasionally be attacked. Either pick easy to guess names, or accept any name that fits a rule. It's a good idea to always reject the first name (unless it's already in your lists) since some spammers start with a 'test' name.
    Also, there will be plenty of names tried, so there's no need to accept a suspiciously high percentage. Choose a simple rule that rejects a fair percentage of the names.
    For example, accept any name which has a '5b' as the last hex character when hashed.
    If your server has any extra delays after a bad name, remove them.

    Buy expired domains.
    Some of my best trap addresses are from previously owned domains.

    Posting to usenet.
    I've not had much luck with this.

    Posting to mailing lists.
    This also seems fairly hit or miss.

    Posting to websites.
    Works eventually, but it can take a long time.

    Setting them in Ineternet Explorer.
    Some web sites have javascript that can grab your email address from your browser.
    (bonus points if you write this up in a proposal)


    When you get spam...

    Read the web pages. Once you actually get spam, either read it in a browser, or download all the links with wget. Some spammers are paying attention, in particular it seems, the ones who sell addresses to other spammers.

    Respond. When you get one of those weird messages like "Are you the same noc-staff I went to school with?" Respond with a simple "sorry, wrong guy."

    -- this is not a .sig
  268. Put it on a website by padark · · Score: 1

    I used to work for an anti-spam company (called stamplets - now defunct). We did the same as you but found that the best way to get your email address onto spammers lists is to put it on a website somewhere. It took be 24 hours from hosting my current website to getting the first piece of spam!

  269. Swen's fault by stesch · · Score: 1

    Spam count has decreased due to Swen.

    1. Re:Swen's fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please tell the ones that spammed me this weekend, I don't think they know it yet.

      My mailbox was just as full when I arrived at work this morning as it is on every monday (and no swens: those had already been filtered out at the server).

  270. see previous slashdot article by sciuro · · Score: 1

    a previous slashdot article: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/12/144220 6, studied just this topic: what kinds of activity lead to the most spam to an email account.

    -duncan

  271. Plain Simple by msh104 · · Score: 1

    Spam == undesired mail. so when want it, it is not undesired any more (and thus not spam). so that is why you don't get any spam!!

  272. Just one word, man by mojinoman · · Score: 1

    HOTMAIL

  273. Scientology by nutsy · · Score: 1

    Right. You should link to Scientology like this:

    <a href="http://www.xenu.net/">Scientology</a>

  274. different standards by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

    Imagine that you make cars. You do so with the full knowledge that some of them are going to get into wrecks or be used by irresponsible drivers. How much responsibility do you have for making sure the cars you make are safe?

    Well, if your cars are significantly more defective than average and you know it and you do nothing when you could do somthing, then you're certainly in trouble. If you're making Ford Pintos, and you know that a fair number of them will blow up when they get into accidents, even though those accidents are not directly your fault, you can still be held partly liable for the damage done.

    But if your cars are less defective than average, it's unlikely that you'll be held responsible. Or to take it back to your example; you are responsible for following a reasonable standard of care with your guns, and that standard of care is very high. Knives would be a little lower because they're utensils. Computers have a pitifully low standard of care, if we're talking about the average user.

    Ethics demands that we take reasonable precautions to protect others, even from their own actions, if we're involved with them. And those standards are typically based on societal norms. The question is, what society are you a part of; a society of average computer users or a society of geeks. Your answer to that would probably determine your ethical stance.

    --

    ___
    It's the end of my comment as I know it and I feel fine.
  275. How to get Spam by klahnako · · Score: 1

    Use your email address while signing up for stuff at websites. Note that "privacy" statements mean nothing.

  276. right here.... heh... by linuxrunner · · Score: 1

    I'm also doing some research. Results to be published soon.

    But I'm currently testing to see how "smart" the bots are.

    You know how we all type "myemailATthissiteDOTcom and stuff like that. Well, does it really work?

    You'd be surprised at what I've found out so far.

    Anyhow.. using a default e-mail address as the baseline, I recieved the bank account scam in less then 2 days. But you need to be patient. It does take weeks for some of these lists to propogate, and your name to get added. But once it does, the flood gates open.

    Carter

    --
    www.slightlycrewed.com - Because aren't we all?
  277. How I got my university to filter spam. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Step 1. Find the CIO's email address. Also find the helpdesk emails, network managers' emails, and pretty much everyboard on the council's emails.

    Step 2. Submit them to several natorious opt-out pages.

    Step 3. Wait a few months.

    Whalla. Policy goes from "Will not every filter email. If individual users wish to filter mail, they should consult their mail program's instructions" to "... includes several new headings to email using the Spam Assasin software. Instructions to filter your mail with several popular mail programs follow..."

  278. Some suggestions by soccerisgod · · Score: 1
    Here's some tips that always helped me:

    • Sign up with mp3.com, they (vivendi) sell addresses
    • Sign up on p0rn sites for free "porn in your mail", they'll sell your address and spam you to hell and back
    • Put your address on websites so the address spiders get it
    • Sign up with a small, free service that uses bigmailbox.com as service provider and have the mail relayed to your real account
    • Sign up on dating sites
    • Be sure to click the unsubscribe button in each mail
    • Be sure to use a html-enabled email client, as some spammers put little 1x1 picture links in their mails so as to get an instant verification that the email address is valid - more spam ahead!
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    If a train station is a place where a train stops, what's a workstation?
  279. Not Spam anymore by anno1602 · · Score: 1

    The page you go to will usually have two options: "remove me from your list" and "Please continue to alert me of special offers". Select the latter, and submit the form. The e-mail address you substituted into the CGI script will probably start receiving spam real soon.

    But as soon as you tell the spammer you want their email, it's not spam anymore, is it?
  280. Spam trader? by j.leidner · · Score: 0

    Hm... I wonder who owns the copyright of the spam that somebody receives. Would it be legal for him or her to sell it? ;-)

  281. Seed Spambots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See these:

    http://freshmeat.net/projects/seedspambots/?topi c_ id=28

    http://www.misel.com/

  282. Spamtrap PHP example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ">.

    This makes up an email address which includes the harvester's IP, epoch time and the page URL where it got it.

    Replace the 123webhosting.org stuff with your domain.

    Sprinkle this everywhere. Rinse. Repeat.

  283. subscribe to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you may subscribe to ads at www.colonize.com

  284. yahoo groups, porn info, AOL, and domain registry by Longshottek · · Score: 1

    join as many yahoo groups as you like..
    it'll start, trust me.

    It also wouldn't hurt to go to some porn sites and request info from them. that'll definitely get the ball rolling.

    Change a domain you might own so that your contact info has the desired email address that you want spammed. that'll help too.

    getting an AOL account wouldn't hurt either..hehe..

  285. And don't forgett... by McLoud · · Score: 1

    ... to send you mozilla junk learning data to us you had success.

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    sign(c14n(envelop(this)), x509)
  286. Easy answer by TuringTest · · Score: 1
    Subject: help
    Body: "help. it doesn't work"
    And thats pretty much all thats in the email. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO HELP YOU IF YOU DON'T TELL ME WHATS GOING WRONG? :-)

    Easy. You should reply this way:

    Subject: Re: help
    Body: "Fix it."

    --
    Singularity: a belief in the "God" idea with the "demiurge" relation inverted.
  287. PayPal will do it for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to receive very little amount of spam until I registered with PayPal.
    Confidentiality, schmonfidentiality.

    Artaxerxes

  288. Pick your Usenet Groups wisely by tbase · · Score: 1

    If you really want a lot of Spam, try posting to newsgroups whose topics are frequent subjects of Spam - try posting to penny-stock and other investing newsgroups for starters.

    And make sure you follow all the links and open all the Spam you get- not on your primary machine, of course. Often they'll include images with an identifying filename that will tell them you've viewed it. If your bait addresses start popping up on their radar as someone who reads spam, you'll likely get bumped to the head of the line.

    Last couple of suggestions - sign those guestbooks, and if you have an eBay account, change your user ID to one of those e-mail addresses, and place low-ball bids on a bunch of stuff you'll never win. Just remember that it'll be a while before you can change your ID again, and you'll have a history of ID changes that may not look good to future buyers and/or sellers.

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    666-607: 6th floor apartment of the beast
  289. CPAN by ChrisDolan · · Score: 1

    Publish a few Perl modules to CPAN.org. That's guaranteed to get you 30-40 spam messages per day. It worked for me, unfortunately.

  290. Didn't take them long to find me... :) by VesperDEM · · Score: 1

    The fastest way I found to get spam was to have my naked e-mail address on a web page. About a week later, I started getting spam. I had it like that for about 2 months, and now I get about 20 spams a day to that one e-mail address. I may have signed up for a porn site with that e-mail address too. About 50% of the spam I get for that address is porn spam.

  291. Remove me by stephens_domain · · Score: 1

    Use the remove me url from any spam, put in your test address. Just make sure you are not clicking a link that sends them your real address in the url.

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    ..
  292. wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How come by personal account gets 100+ spam each day yet when I try to find it I get nothing?

    d'uh! why not just use your personal account? If it is actually for research and not revenge then it seems to me that a real addy as opposed to a spam-magnet will make for much more realistic stats plus you've already got the spam there...

  293. Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It takes time.

    Sometimes posting in a newsgroup (especially a computer-related one) with your real address will cause targeted spam to arrive after a day or so, but you won't immediately get the real thing.

    One of my addresses remained virtually spam-free for two years after I used it on a public mailing list for months (one of the mysql lists).
    All that time, the address was sitting naked on the web, on three sites that copied messages from the mySQL lists (stealing other peoples' efforts to make their own site look like a good place to find information about the subject). Two out of those three sites still exist today and still carry my mails, without my consent, and without stripping the address: dbforums.com, and list.softwareliberty.org (on this last one the headers were altered to make it look like it came out of a usenet newsgroup, but it was an e-mail to the mysql win32 mailing list).

    The messages are also archived (for everyone to search, and this I do find legitimate) on MySQL's own home site, but with the addresses stripped: something those others never bothered to do.

    Back to the subject: about half a year ago, the first spam started to arrive. At first only some "buy ink here" in chinese.
    Currently, it's getting the regular daily potion of porn & viagra spam everyone knows from his own mailbox.

    The address hasn't been used in public lists anymore, *no* message was ever opened in a html-aware renderer so bug-bitmaps didn't have their address confirming effect, and no message was ever replied to, yet the volume keeps going up and up almost every week.

    You (or better, your address) have to get into the circuit first. They probably keep selling it to each other, so more spammers get hold of it every week.

    1. Re:Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Not really on topic, but:
      Two out of those three sites still exist today and still carry my mails, without my consent, and without stripping the address: dbforums.com, and list.softwareliberty.org (on this last one the headers were altered to make it look like it came out of a usenet newsgroup, but it was an e-mail to the mysql win32 mailing list).
      It's even worse in the case of softwareliberty actually: they present the messages as if they were posted to one of their forums, while that forum actually gets (or got) a constant feed with all mails from a mailing list that isn't theirs.

      Can't anything be done against harvesting e-mails like this to make their forums look much more active than they are?
    2. Re:Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oops. I meant "worse at dbforums.com", they're the ones who make the ripped e-mails look like forum submissions.

  294. SPAM by galdor · · Score: 1

    I guess If its available when you want it its not spam anymore ~G

  295. Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just post your email to slashdot.org. Oh yes, you
    just did :-)

  296. Enter some contests by superflippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Online sweepstakes are a great spam generator. Sign up for Publisher's Clearing House and opt-in to everything.

    --
    Your fantasies contain the seeds of important concepts.
    1. Re:Enter some contests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the general consensus was that it ain't spam if you have to opt in for it.

    2. Re:Enter some contests by superflippy · · Score: 1

      Good point. On PCH, though, even if you don't opt in you'll still get spam. I entered the contest once when I was young and naive, didn't opt-in to anything, and still get spam at the address I used.

      --
      Your fantasies contain the seeds of important concepts.
  297. Sheesh! by Azahar · · Score: 1

    What about 1994 when we all used to work together?

    Are evolving or degenerating? Some days I just want to turn off my net connection altogether and this is one of them.

    --
    Cuiusvis hominis est errare; nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare.
  298. HOTWIRE = instant spam by tiedyejeremy · · Score: 1

    my father always complained about spam and the quantities he received, and i had almost none. One day, i signed up for Hotwire.com and within 24 hours i was getting 30 spams a day, and all the same stuff my dad gets. I will never use hotwire again.

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    Anything you say will be held against you. ... "tits"
  299. test by Damek · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ignore this, i'm just posting in a day-old thread to test my sig... sorry if you wasted time reading this! :D

    1. Re:test by Damek · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      testing again, just ignore me...

  300. Golotto.com by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

    The only suspicious place I knowingly submitted my email address to several years ago when I was unemployed and desperate for cash. I am still getting spam every day as a result even though I "unsubscribed" almost immediately. Before that, I never got spam.

    MjM

    Groovy. Gear. Mod.

  301. 3 posts on usenet = 30 messages/day by VirusNamedCyrus · · Score: 1

    I posted 3 messages on usenet (one of them on no.kultur.diverse, a really quiet place) in June, and since then I got al least 30 messages/day.
    Lucky I made a trash address ad hoc for the 3 postings.

  302. Hotmail by KyleW · · Score: 0

    Why not just take a few seconds and sign up for a hotmail account. It's an instant spam catcher especially if you select all the spam boxes when you sign up! You'll start getting the get a bigger penis emails right out of the box!

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    1st known failed CIA coup in South America : http://www.chavezthefilm.com/index_ex.htm
  303. Not funny, if you think about it by gosand · · Score: 1
    Knowlingly install a system from the manufacturer's CD and running it on the Internet? The horror! The horror!

    This was modded as funny, but what do you think that people get on their system when they buy it from Dell? Do you think the first (or second, or third, or nth) thing that they do when they get it is patch it? They don't even have to install anything to have an out-of-the-box vulnerable system.

    With all of the recent patching because of worms/viruses, I have been wondering why Dell (and all OEMs) aren't required to sell reasonably up-to-date patched systems. I've never bought one, so I don't really know, but don't they sell just plain, no SP, no patch versions of the OS on their systems? Hey, it would be a nightmare for them to install the OS and all required SPs and patches, but couldn't Microsoft provide them with a rolled up installer or image? Maybe they couldn't be up-to-the-minute on the patches, but they could be a lot closer than they are now. They are knowingly selling vulnerable systems.

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    My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

    1. Re:Not funny, if you think about it by juhaz · · Score: 1

      Installing all the patches might be a nightmare, but slipstreaming latest SP directly into windows installation files isn't very hard, or they might even be able to get that kind of distribution directly from m$.

  304. Try posting... by Tukla · · Score: 1

    ...to alt.atheism and alt.fan.furry. You'll start getting spam up the wazzoo, much of it involving putting things up your wazzoo.

  305. Heh. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

    If you could actually be held responsible, then millions of old people would now be in court being sued over their completely unsecured computers sitting on their fat cable lines even now cranking out Code Red hits.

    I had a hack come in on a box I was administrating, traced it back, figured out whose box it was, realized that it was just an exploited pedestrian, called the guy on the phone, and asked him to get it looked at. Got in a screaming fight with him, while he's threatening to sue ME for the whole (admittedly quasi-legal) process of figuring out whose computer it was.

    Grrrr. I finally just hung up on him, and sent the logs and transcripts of the attack on my server to the local FBI office. I'd like to think they did something to him, but I doubt they did, and this kind of thing happens all the time.

    --
    ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
  306. EmailRevenge.tk by jimmcq · · Score: 1

    Want Spam? Here's where to get it: http://emailrevenge.tk/
    Fun for the whole family!

  307. Register a domain, and join match.com from hotmail by dspyder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Easily the three best ways to collect spam are to create a hotmail account. Then register a brand new domain with that address publicly available. Then join match.com (I think they still offer a free trial of some kind) and watch the spam pour in.

    My wife created a unique (with numbers) hotmail account when she joined match.com (we met on matchmaker.com) and used it only for that purpose. Today she gets hundreds and hundreds of spam on it even though it's been entirely inactive for 3.5 years!

    Match customer service claims they don't sell addresses and that it's hotmail's fault. Either way, the two together seem to be a quite effective spam trap

    Of course, if you're just looking for a corpus of spam to test against, there's plenty out there. Google for +"spam corpus" to find several good sites.

    Hope that helps....

    --D

  308. Re:yahoo groups, porn info, AOL, and domain regist by Don+Cron · · Score: 1
    This is the best advice so far. A busy Yahoo!-Groups mailing list will attract a truckload of spam. On a low-volume list, you can watch the spam roll in after a handful of messages to the list. Whenever activity spikes like this, the spam to the group-subscribed email address cranks up a few notches until the activity level dies down again.

    Domain registration is also very good advice. Most of the spam I receive comes in this way.

    -Don

  309. Analogy Mad-Libs by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    Gun's are designed to kill. Computers are not designed for cracking/spaming/etc.

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrgh! It's just an analogy! Let's mad-lib it so that everyone gets the point:

    If I have a [potentially dangerous tool] and I [perform an action which makes it accessable to dangerous or annoying people] for the purposes of attracting [one subclass of dangerous or annoying people] and [another worse subclass of dangerous or annoying people] gains control of the [potentially dangerous tool] to do [the naughty thing for which we fear them], aren't I partially responsible for [the naughty thing for which we fear them] because I let them have it?

    The point he's making is that if you expose (action) your machine (tool) for the purpose of letting it get owned by spammers (subclass) and it gets owned by script kiddies (worse subclass) doing DDoS attacks (naughty thing), aren't you partially responsible for the damage by willingly giving your machine (tool) to them?

    It's not that hard! While you could make the argument that people who don't keep up with their patches are also slightly responsible, he's not! He's only making the point that if you deliberately let your machine get cracked, you are willingly contributing to the problem.

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    If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
  310. Re:BUT--Washing your car in order to make it rain. by AndrewRUK · · Score: 1

    There's a simple reason why:
    Murphy's law states that if it can go wrong, it will. The desired result of your car-washing is to make it rain, so "going wrong" is it not raining, thus Murphy's law dictates that your plan will fail, and it will not rain.
    by a similar reasoning, any attempt to use Murphy's law to your advantage is doomed to failure, by the very effect that you are trying to exploit.

  311. corpseofjackieo@hotmail.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    corpseofjackieo@hotmail.com

  312. Alexa and Bonzy buddy by Anontroll · · Score: 1

    Just install a few pieces of spy ware. Alexa Gator and Bonzy Buddy come to mind. Be sure and "register" the software with the email address and do some random web surfing at sites that offer products in a variety of categories that spam is known for. You should have a brimming in box in no time.

  313. Why do we get spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because we use our email addresses for something. If you're not tyring to sign up for services that require you to submit an email address, you're never going to get spam. If a few words, you need to market yourself! Let the spammers know you're there. Search for "opt in" sites. See if that makes your unsolicited spam increase. Register accounts with hotmail, yahoo, etc. Hell, start an AOL account and have its mail forwarded. Sign up for a couple pr0n web sites (the free ones that just want you to put in your email address). Your address needs to be in the wild for awhile before it starts getting traded among all the spammers.

  314. Run for office and post your email address. by rleibman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, I ran in 2002 and made the mistake of giving my prefered email address to anyone who wanted to contact me, of course, every newspaper in my district posted it on their website, leagues of voters same, etc.
    I now get about 50+ spams a day... nicely controlled with spamassasin.

  315. The Friendly Honeypot by duck_prime · · Score: 1
    But dropping something insecure out in the open with full knowledge that it will probably be compromised and then likely used for undesireable activities isn't responsible.
    The ethical question is a good one ... I for one would hesitate to drop an knowlingly-insecure machine out there. However, mightn't it be possible to have a machine with software firewall that allows anything incoming, but blocks all *outgoing* traffic? That would leave the one machine open to any degradation, but will (should, heh heh) keep any contagion from spreading.

    Just a thought.
    1. Re:The Friendly Honeypot by budgenator · · Score: 1

      I for one would hesitate to drop an knowlingly-insecure machine out there

      as would most of us at /. unfortunately, the average non-/. computer user realy doesn't understand how easily an un-maitained machine realy is to crack or why someone would want to. These cracker/spammers are a rare breed to them and they think that they are relatively secure, both through the software on the machine, after all microsoft is a big company employing lots good programmers so their product must be secure enough for typical use, and secondly they feel that they are such a little fish in the big internet pond that none of the evil crackers will notice them.

      patches are of course just a big pain, and a lot just skip them, ever try to download a 1.5 Mb patch thru a dialup modem connected at 28K? And of course if your OS is bootlegged, you wouldn't dare go to microsoft for the patches anyways.

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  316. Re:Domain registry (and more) by InvisiBill · · Score: 1
    Another vote for domain registry. I registered a domain name through NameZero. Any unknown alias at my domain would go to my main mail account. NameZero used a "contact" alias for the registration. It had never been used up to that point, and I never used it for anything else afterwards. I'd say that about 90% of my spam came in under that alias.

    I also downloaded an email harvesting program to test some anti-harvesting ideas on webpages. The user email buttons on each phpBB2 post are harvestable. I don't know how many people actually use the harvesters anymore, but some simple tests with the default settings on one thread gave me tons of email addresses.

  317. I can give you mine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get about 200 per day. Is that enough? I can forward it all to you. Plus I also have 250 megs of spam (older spam) I've collected.

    I just have to anonymously figure out how to contact you.

    Also, the SpamBayes people must have a lot of spam they can give you.

    Submit your name to all of the REMOVE lists. I guarentee it will make you very popular with spammers.

    YOu can also get a Hotmail account. They are also wonderful spam magnets.

  318. How to attract spam by lost+in+place · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here are two controlled studies of which activities attract spam, and how much:

    "Why Am I Getting All This Spam? Unsolicited Email Six-month Report"
    "The Great CNET Spam-off"

  319. Safe honeypots by siskbc · · Score: 1
    Okay, let's talk about the box of goodies. Let's say you leave a box of weapons outside with full knowledge that a neighborhood kid will probably find it and will likely use the contents for something illegal. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?

    With a well-designed honeypot, with your example, the guns would appear to be real, would act like real guns unless you fire them, and might even shoot blanks to make you think you were firing them.

    In otherwords, the box full of pinball parts that fooled some terrorists in Back to the Future would be an example of a crude if effective honeypot, had they used it as such. An actual bomb, not so good.

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    -Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat

  320. Pr0n by MrWizard510 · · Score: 1

    Any pr0n site i've visited (just out of curiosity, you understand) has usually resulted in LOTS of pop-ups at the time (usually when I try to leave the page), and then LOTS of unsolicited email a day later, some of which is impossible to un-register from.

  321. The AOL way... by peacedog · · Score: 1

    just go sign up a new account for AOL Instant Messenger www.aol.com make sure to use the new email address for the account.. : )~

  322. Easy answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    porn sites. ;>

  323. Re: use adelphia by retroworks · · Score: 1

    I have 7 email addresses for different business purposes. The 2 Adelphia.net addresses account for 80% of the spam I receive, about 80 per day.

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    Gently reply
  324. where to post? by iamhassi · · Score: 1
    "Where should I post my address so that it attracts spam?"

    umm... why not slashdot? Give it to us, we'll get you some spam.

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    my karma will be here long after I'm gone
  325. You want spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've found through personal experience that Gator will get your TONS of spam. Go to Gator.com and download it from the machine you want the spam on. Guaranteed results