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billwg - 05:53pm Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 6460 of 6462)

SCO, has a strong claim and with Boies to make the argument, the penguins might be pecking no more!

Well it's against the law! Anyone can give away software if they steal it from the rightful copyright holders. Now let's see what the open sourcerers can do if they have to obey the law for once.

billwg - 05:59pm Feb 21, 2003 EST (# 6461 of 6462)

SCO is, of course, not the Santa Cruz Operation that the unixers once loved and that once tried to bring unix to the intel world. SCO is the new shell inhabited by that software hermit crab Caldera and funded by Novell Noorda in an attempt to bring consternation and uncertainty to the computing world. The penguins may wish to note that he is a pew mate of the staid Orren Hatch who is spoiling for a comeback from his inauspicious showing against Herr Gates. Live in real fear, penguins! LOL!!!

see also: va. msn.?NET? (VAST) -1

Dead Hippy filth. Alcoholic drug frenzied corpses.

Burned Alive. Great White Rhode Island Scum.

Get right with Jesus. Godless hippy drunks die in fire.

burn, Burn, BURN !!!

Dead Hippy filth. Alcoholic drug frenzied corpses.

Burned Alive. Great White Rhode Island Scum.

Get right with Jesus. Godless hippy drunks die in fire.

burn, Burn, BURN !!!

Interesting that you are quick to label me as a theist when I've given no evidence as to my beliefs.

In any case... as the other poster said, "belief" and "believe" are the operative words here.

Even for "agnostic", the definition is in terms of the (dis-)belief in the supernatural.

(both from http://www.m-w.com)

Main Entry: atheism
Pronunciation: 'A-thE-"i-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos godless, from a- + theos god
Date: 1546
1 archaic : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity

Main Entry: 1agnostic
Pronunciation: ag-'näs-tik, &g-
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek agnOstos unknown, unknowable, from a- + gnOstos known, from gignOskein to know -- more at KNOW
Date: 1869
: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
- agnosticism /-t&-"si-z&m/ noun

One common thing I've found though is that those who profess religion the loudest (theism or atheism - but most often atheism), is that those people are usually severely uptight and bitter. ;)

Sure, this can be seen as an invasion of privacy. While this is terrible and unfortunate, the fact of the matter is there currently exists some very terrible, murderous people in this world that are willing to do things that have never really been done before, in order to accomplish their task of murder.

Really? Never been done before? I'm sure the people in Europe and Israel will be pleased to know that terrorist are just now starting to target innocent civillians in ways that cause increasing casualties and fear. The only remarkable things about the September 11 attacks were that A) The scale of damage was more than even they had planned, due to the towers collapsing, and B) it was a rare attack on US soil, whereas before we'd been able to get complacent due to the fact that most targets were "US interests overseas."

I dislike the facts of this modern reality just as much as the next person. Unfortunately, there isn't much that the US Government can do to protect its citizens (which is a big component of government) and preserve the way life has been.

You know what? There's not much the government can do. Even if you turned the US into an Orwellian nightmare, a determined person could still find a way around the system to kill people and cause damage. In fact, given the government's historical record, it's likely that its current path toward police-state policies will only serve to feed the corrupt elements in the government, and provide little to no actual increased safety to the citizens. Remember, every generation, we give the government more and more powers that our grandparents would have found alarming, yet we don't get any safer. Curious, that.

There simply is no other way to rectify this issue. Even if the US pulled out of the Middle East and swore off the oil habit and simply ceased dealing with that part of the world. The minds behind these murderous fundamentalists would not change. They would still plan their assaults and still carry out what they are able to carry out.

You're right - no matter what we do, those murderous fundamentalists will always be able to find a way to carry out their plans. We'll catch them some of the times, they'll succeed some of the times. The US is too big to guard all of the borders and coastlines. As a cultural melting pot, it's very easy for anyone to blend into the background.

Here's a little fun activity: Take all of these new "security" ideas that are being proposed (Dept. of Homeland Security, easy wiretapping, secret operations, loss of privacy), and describe them to your grandparents and others of the WWII/Cold War generation. Then ask them if you're talking about the United States, or those godless commies in Russia. I'd be willing to bet that most of them will think you're talking about Russia.

We're in the process of destroying America in order to save it. Judging from the people we keep sending to Washington, the popular opinion is that if we just give the government some more power, everything will be alright, but I'd rather accept the fact that there will always be a chance that terrorists could strike than watch the continued erosion of our civil liberties in favor of an ever-more-powerful federal government.

In the end, though, the people want to give more and more of their rights and responsibilities to the government, so you'll probably get your wish soon. We'll see if it actually solves the problem, though. I have my doubts.

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go ahead, take the test drive. what have you left to lose?

With current technology you can't protect it from attack. However, if your terrorists feel that they benefit from it too, not just those godless Americans, then their motive to attack it goes away.

relationships?

since the receNT demise of the Godless payper liesense hostage ransom stock markup fraud bullshipping industrIE, upon the pacific crest, being aware of whoare you eNTering into ?relationships? with, has become more important than ever before.

look for va.msn.?net? (VAST) relationships?

all fud, all the time. it doesn't get any better than this?

Why won't Bush just tell the UN to go fuck itself and start killing brown people? It costs me $50 to fill up my SUV! We need to go get our oil that those godless iraqis are holding under their worthless mudman country.

Slashdot is full of stalinist IP thieves. That is all.

lookout bullow.

the Godless payper liesense hostage ransom stock markup scams, appear to be dissolving into coolapps.

va.msn.?net? ...working? run for your options, if you have any left.

HERE, & there, buy Godless phonIE payper liesense peddling whoredoggIEs, from the fuddles&fudstorm annex of the evile kingdumb. EVERie daze, for OVER 4 years now. EVERY day, ALL day. the chaNT gooes on: "fud is gooed, nothing else matters". all day, EVERY DAY. that's just on the NYT(TMp). yuk.

billwg - 10:00pm Jan 27, 2003 EST (# 6195 of 6200)

So you are saying the Office API's design is inherently insecure?

I am saying that the Office API's design is inherently open to anyone who wants to use it to customize their personal use of MS Office. That allows them or their chosen supplier(s) to make calls that can automatically e-mail information to preset addresses or lists. If the user is tricked into running a rogue program, the rogue program will have access to the same APIs and that is the mechanism that the script hackers use to send these mis-named viruses through the e-mail network. They are really mail bombs that do something destructive when inadvertently run by the unaware user.

I think that the APIs are useful things that cannot be secured without losing their utility. What do you think should be done about that? Curse Microsoft for providing them in the first place? That seems to be the choice of the anti-MS crowd, but they are gaggling geese with little to recommend them.

With that number in mind, it should be clear why linux is eating Unix' lunch first. One, MS doesn't get that lunch. Two... by the time linux is done with that it will be an 8000 lb gorrilla. MS's air supply will be in jeapordy.

Amusing, if you have little taste and less alternatives, but if you check the financials, MSFT doesn't seem to be missing any lunch at all. The total annual inventory of the Linux food hamper is about 1/10 th of a single day's ration for Mr. Softee and that may very well be less than what they throw to the pigeons for their own amusment. A gorilla would surely starve on such a ration. It seems as if the European versions of the linux monkey have already been reduced to mostly skin and bone and are in the processes of checking out of the game.

If Linux on Intel can do what people are using Solaris on Sparc to do, for a tenth the cost (literally!), excuse me, but Linux is SUPPOSED to win! If I miss Solaris (and I will), that's secondary.

Surely that cannot be the case! But if it were, what reason would anyone have for not selecting Windows more often than even now? What is it that people think needs doing that Windows doesn't already do?

since maybe 20% of the people have taken it upon themselves to use Linux or Max OS X.

Who are "the people"? One out of 5 at your company? In the real world, it's more like 1 out of 100 (if we accept the Google count) or 1 out of 400 (wherever that click site is). Linux can grow to 1 out of 10 and not really affect Microsoft's business. Certainly even I don't expect Microsoft Windows to have it ALL. But Microsoft vs whatever's in second place (currently Macintosh OS9) is an incredibly strong winner.

Why my feeling of relief and predicting MS's demise. Clearly I may be wrong over all. But the feeling of confidence comes from the fact that Linux has checked Windows encrouchment on the server.

Where has that happened? Last count MS was actually growing faster in absolute (unit) terms than Unix/Linux although their percentage is swamped by their already high share. I would rather think that such a sharp decline in available case, which translates into layoffs for the Unix developers at Sun and such, which translates into less of an inclination to help out the open source cause and more of an inclination to find a new job, would weaken the future capabilty of linux to match the continuing evolution of Windows.
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to read moron ?dr? weisgerber's ?work?:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=U TF -8&q=microsoft+%22bill+weisgerber%22&btnG=Google+S earch
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look for: va.msn.?net? ticker (VAST) [trustworthycomputing.com]?

lookout bullow. the WINds of (small) change are howling at the gates, again.

HERE, & there, buy Godless phonIE payper liesense peddling whoredoggIEs, from the fuddles&fudstorm annex of the evile kingdumb. EVERie daze, for OVER 4 years now. EVERY day, ALL day. the chaNT gooes on: "fud is gooed, nothing else matters". all day, EVERY DAY. that's just on the NYT(TMp). yuk.

billwg - 10:00pm Jan 27, 2003 EST (# 6195 of 6200)

So you are saying the Office API's design is inherently insecure?

I am saying that the Office API's design is inherently open to anyone who wants to use it to customize their personal use of MS Office. That allows them or their chosen supplier(s) to make calls that can automatically e-mail information to preset addresses or lists. If the user is tricked into running a rogue program, the rogue program will have access to the same APIs and that is the mechanism that the script hackers use to send these mis-named viruses through the e-mail network. They are really mail bombs that do something destructive when inadvertently run by the unaware user.

I think that the APIs are useful things that cannot be secured without losing their utility. What do you think should be done about that? Curse Microsoft for providing them in the first place? That seems to be the choice of the anti-MS crowd, but they are gaggling geese with little to recommend them.

With that number in mind, it should be clear why linux is eating Unix' lunch first. One, MS doesn't get that lunch. Two... by the time linux is done with that it will be an 8000 lb gorrilla. MS's air supply will be in jeapordy.

Amusing, if you have little taste and less alternatives, but if you check the financials, MSFT doesn't seem to be missing any lunch at all. The total annual inventory of the Linux food hamper is about 1/10 th of a single day's ration for Mr. Softee and that may very well be less than what they throw to the pigeons for their own amusment. A gorilla would surely starve on such a ration. It seems as if the European versions of the linux monkey have already been reduced to mostly skin and bone and are in the processes of checking out of the game.

If Linux on Intel can do what people are using Solaris on Sparc to do, for a tenth the cost (literally!), excuse me, but Linux is SUPPOSED to win! If I miss Solaris (and I will), that's secondary.

Surely that cannot be the case! But if it were, what reason would anyone have for not selecting Windows more often than even now? What is it that people think needs doing that Windows doesn't already do?

since maybe 20% of the people have taken it upon themselves to use Linux or Max OS X.

Who are "the people"? One out of 5 at your company? In the real world, it's more like 1 out of 100 (if we accept the Google count) or 1 out of 400 (wherever that click site is). Linux can grow to 1 out of 10 and not really affect Microsoft's business. Certainly even I don't expect Microsoft Windows to have it ALL. But Microsoft vs whatever's in second place (currently Macintosh OS9) is an incredibly strong winner.

Why my feeling of relief and predicting MS's demise. Clearly I may be wrong over all. But the feeling of confidence comes from the fact that Linux has checked Windows encrouchment on the server.

Where has that happened? Last count MS was actually growing faster in absolute (unit) terms than Unix/Linux although their percentage is swamped by their already high share. I would rather think that such a sharp decline in available case, which translates into layoffs for the Unix developers at Sun and such, which translates into less of an inclination to help out the open source cause and more of an inclination to find a new job, would weaken the future capabilty of linux to match the continuing evolution of Windows.

--

to read moron ?dr? weisgerber's ?work?:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=U TF -8&q=microsoft+%22bill+weisgerber%22&btnG=Google+S earch

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look for: va.msn.?net? ticker (VAST)?

lookout bullow. the WINds of (small) change are howling at the gates, again.

we'll gladly pay artists for their work. we'll NEVER pay into the Godless cesspool of yOUR corepirate payper liesense stock markup FUDgePeddling factorIE again.

many artists remain as (?$willing$?) hostages of the factorIE, but their daze are fading.

tell 'em robbIE.

look for va.msn.?net?, ticker: (VAST)? the cite's DOWn right now, but more good gnus are on the way.

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. BELIEvE. There is GOOD out there. We OPpose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING. Acknowledge.

What is it about a democracy, US-style, as opposed to any alternative form of government, that is so holy that anything that stands in the way of its creation must be sheer evil to be stamped out?

I am a godless heathen, so I do not literally think that that there is anything holy about democracy, but I do think that there is something deeply right about "government of the people, by the people, and the people". If you want to know why then you could read Locke, or you could just spend a little time trying to think of anything which could make a government legitimate apart from the consent of the governed.

Granted, there are evils that do need to be disposed of, but they do not include disagreeing with the US. Creating a democratic state must necessarily allow for the possibility that the people of that state may not like what you're doing, and you've just given them the power to do something about it.

No argument here - my point was just that the Germans and the French seem to *like* their own democratic regimes and it strikes me as somewhat hypocritical that they are now so violently opposed to the idea of the US confering the same benefits on other nations.

to Godless greed/fear based LIEforms:

"We have 100's of machines in the math department at UT where I am a professor, and they all are running Linux. But we wanted to use Dell's from here in austin, and that forced us to have MS Windows on every machine we bought. We are free to wipe it off the machines, they do not put in the sales contract that you have to keep the OS, although they do sometimes make noises at warranty time ... We wipe it off and replace it with Linux, which is more reliable, but we were still contributing to the MS cash flow. Dell would not sell a desktop machine without MSWindows, because of the price break MS gives them if they force all users to buy windows. Another little way of making your OS dominant. You get 70% of the market, and you tell a manufacturer, that you will charge him $1,000,000 say if he puts your OS on say 70% of the machines he builds and only $950,000 if he puts it on a 100%. Which is he going to do? And maybe only $925,000 if he puts your browser on too. Of course the numbers were secret but this is how it is done. Both MS and Dell are really trying to help the customers. And you wonder why other OS's just don't seem to be able to compete. And it is only getting worse. Exactly as Microsoft foresaw, once they had dominance, even if nothing else changed it would be harder and harder to browse the web using the competition's browser. Perhaps all this is too subtle for the appeals court judges, I was surprised that Penfield seemed to actually understand it."

billwg - 07:31am Jan 23, 2003 EST (#6089 of 6090)

1/23/03 3:13am

If you look at Microsoft's filings for the appeal you will see that Motz actually dismissed the charges against Microsoft on the very same issue that he based the injunction on. When Microsoft moved to then dismiss the injunction as well, Motz then re-activated the charges, i.e. reversed himself, without any stated reason to do so. Motz is apparently another clown like Jackson who finds himself suddenly in the limelight and trips himself up trying for a photo opportunity.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=U TF-8&q=microsoft+%22bill+weisgerber%22&btnG=Google +Search

what a bunch of phonIE pennIE aNTe shills this blog's become. yuk.

see what happens when you trade yOUR genuine support, for a few worth less billyuns?

look for: va.msn.?net? sticker: (VAST)?

everybodIEs going to pretend that the FUDged #'s, all match up, again today? i DOWt it. not everybody.

some of the Godless larcenious FUDgeSuckers(tm), may be checking yOUR liesense .compliance status right now, 'suggesting' (-1) that you not read anything that says that the ill eagle kingdumb is dissolving into coolapps.

chips my .asp. many are saying that hanging's way to good for some of those felonious skalywags.

as we know, none of this is topical for /. dough, as they only advertise onLIEn for the Godless pickpockets, so they're innoceNT, until delisted.