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I think our lovely host/admin should do a story on climate change then bullying and finally ratios as a sorbet

A few years ago I spent $329 on a horizontal masticating juicer, from an existing brand that has been on the market for decades and has a late-generation product with a 15 year warranty.

If you want one that is a "cold press" instead of "masticating" juicer, you'll probably spend around $1500 or more. But the warranty will be good, and those are made by companies with long presence in the commercial kitchen machine sector.

Juicero, OTOH, was trying to sell packets of vegetables, with a model like the single-serve coffee pods. But to get it to actually work as quickly and conveniently as they wanted, they had to prep the vegetables before putting them in the pack; and then you don't even need the fancy machine. And yet, the machine was engineered to be able to really do the job; so it is expensive.

The advantage over a horizontal masticating juicer is simply that you save the 2 minutes of cleaning that is required immediately after using the machine. (If you don't take a masticating juicer apart and clean all the parts right away, it gets hard to clean it at all; that's the whole reason for there being a potential niche here) The problem is, the juice packets are them more expensive than just buying bottles of premium organic vegetable juice. Most of the value in spending $300+ on a masticating juicer is that you can get premium-quality juice out of any sort of vegetable including greens; the cheap juicers are "centrifugal" and only work well for certain things like carrots and apples, but can't really get juice out of greens. If you drink vegetable juice even once a week, you're saving money by buying the juicer. 12 ounces of carrot juice might cost $3 or more, but 10 lb of carrots

A masticating juicer can also make almond milk from almonds, peanut butter from peanuts, tahini from sesame seeds, etc. Even sorbet from frozen fruit. Tahini alone, it costs like $7 for a small jar, the same weight in sesame seeds costs $2. Add a few cents of olive oil, and that's close to $5 saved. It pays for itself if you don't mind a mandatory 2 minute cleanup routine that has to be completed before the residue dries.

So obviously, if all it does is make premium juice then the consumables have to beat the price of premium bottled juice, since that is the only product it is really competing with. Just like coffee pods are not really competing with brewed coffee, but with coffee shops. Even for businesses providing coffee in customer waiting rooms; the choices that customers appreciate are either the pods or a coffee service that delivers branded coffee to carafes daily. If they instead just have an employee brew a pot of coffee and leave it sitting on a burner, very few customers drink it, and none are impressed or feel like you provided any luxury or convenience. Most likely it is still half full when somebody turns off the pot and throws away the remnants because it smells so burnt.

The brief description is vague about the actual size of the payload, but if it can be sent up as a supply-rocket mission to operate in station with the ISS (not ON the ISS, because of the need for cryogenic conditions and to avoid the possibility of getting their freezer back with nothing in it but a handwritten note saying "Sorry! I got hungry and used Bose-Einstein concentrate on my sorbet - Feodor") for an extended period of time.

Run this way, the experiment would not be bound by the tight time constraint of a suborbital flight, could be serviced in flight as necessary by spacewalks, and returned to earth independently.

Just imagine how much rat cake, rat sorbet, rat pudding, or strawberry tart that could have made!

I dunno, after the colossal failure of the Android KitKat branding experiment, they may try to find something more generic. Like orange sorbet.

200,000 generations ago your ancestor was a fish. If you met him today, you would eat him with a nice sorbet and some tartar sauce. Obviously there is no way you could reproduce with such a creature.

Over those generations each descendent was a little more like you. At some point one of them would be a recognizable human being that you would happily grant rights to, and your genetic codes would be compatible enough for reproduction.

At what point in this line of directly descended beings does the change from delicious animal to human being with rights happen? There is no definite point, it's a continuous gradual change. Just the same way as there is no clear point at which a human egg becomes a human being. All we can do it set some kind of limit we are somewhat happy with, erring on the side of caution.

"Juicer" typically indicates that you make your own beverage from fresh fruits and veggies, which is not at all unhealthy (1)(2). "Fruit Juice" as TFA is discussing is processed fruit juice, generally chemically reduced to concentrate and added to sugar water (HFCS specifically). The primary difference between soda and 99% of the commercially produced "Fruit Juices" is the lack of carbonation in the latter. In many cases, there is more sugar added to juices than there is in soda.

1. Eating large quantities of certain vegetables and fruits will cause severe illness. Research, research, and research!
2. Juice bars have a variety of drinks, some of which contain sorbet and other sources and forms of sugar. Research is important here too!

So I can sell you sugar laced with arsenic?

yes - as long as you make it VERY clear that is what you are selling -- the rats running around under my house love sugar and they annoy me -- I'd be a customer

I can sell you rat labeled as chicken?

That would be fraud - a completely different issue (but, you should be able to sell Rat labeled as Rat - along with possible disclosures about the amount of rat in it - I would expect a lot of rat in rat cake or rat sorbet or rat pudding and quite a bit less in a strawberry tart).

You guys should first check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_house_%28building%29

Ice houses or icehouses (Persian: "ice pit"; yakh meaning "ice" and chl meaning "pit") are buildings used to store ice throughout the year, commonly used prior to the invention of the refrigerator. Some were underground chambers, usually man-made, close to natural sources of winter ice such as freshwater lakes, but many were buildings with various types of insulation.

During the winter, ice and snow would be taken into the ice house and packed with insulation, often straw or sawdust. It would remain frozen for many months, often until the following winter, and could be used as a source of ice during summer months. The main application of the ice was the storage of perishable foods, but it could also be used simply to cool drinks, or allow ice-cream and sorbet desserts to be prepared. During its heyday a typical commercial ice house would store 30,000 tons in a 30 feet by 100 feet by 45 feet high building.[1

A cuneiform tablet from c. 1780 BC records the construction of an icehouse in the northern Mesopotamian town of Terqa by Zimri-Lim, the King of Mari, "which never before had any king built."[2] In China, archaeologists have found remains of ice pits from the seventh century BC, and references suggest they were in use before 1100 BC. Alexander the Great around 300 BC stored snow in pits dug for that purpose. In Rome in the third century AD, snow was imported from the mountains, stored in straw-covered pits, and sold from snow shops. The ice formed in the bottom of the pits sold at a higher price than the snow on top.[3]

Nope. just had ice cream, your opinion is invalid

I'm lactose intolerant, you insensitive clod!

In any case, everyone knows sorbet is far better than ice cream.

Your move.

I have been very happy with my Linux steam library of late. It's kept me busy, perhaps not with the particular games I want, but with games that are quite good.

It's the difference between getting ice cream and sorbet. I might have preferred the ice cream, but if I'm lactose intolerant, y'know what, the sorbet is almost as good and I'm perfectly pleased with it.

Hey my poo smells like raspberry sorbet!!

Tasteless beer served at any temperature is going to be tasteless. Beer with flavor is going to have flavor at any temperature, even if more subtle when cold. Whatever your temperature preference is, you can find beer that works at that temperature (although the brewer's intentions may be different), even if you want to use it to flavor a sorbet. Unless you also want to argue ice cream needs to be served at room temperature to maximize flavor.

Well, there's substantive fraudulent frolicking fraud sorbet. That hasn't got much fraud in it.

When you get the sorbet, if it doesn't please your palate you can put it on the pallets and ship it back for a refund. Two birds, one stone. ;D

Oh, damn, I just ordered 3 tonnes of sorbet to clean my dirty pallets.

Just think of it as a sorbet to cleanse the pallet. You needn't indulge in the story if you aren't interested.
 

Oh, they are. Ammonia sorbet. That's innovative. A double ended scalpel. How about a shredder attachment for a printer?

The taste isn't diminished THAT much by cold unless you're serving it ice cold. (colder than fridge temperature).

You may taste more of warm beer, but for some (including me) this is outweighed by the fact that it's warm. I find near room-temperature drinks (or food) of any kind pretty gross. It feels like drinking from a still swamp. Ugh. It's got nothing to do with the taste.

The same observation about 'warm' beer can probably be made about anything. Probably room-temperature sorbet has more taste than frozen sorbet, but wtf wants to eat that?

In summary, eating/drinking is enjoyable not merely because of "taste", but also because of touch (texture) and temperature.

It does still sell on Amazon, I just bought it with my ice cream maker. The beer sorbet is a nice idea, but unfortunately you need to add 3/4 cup of corn syrup in order to make the sorbet set properly (i.e. not turn into a block of beer flavored ice). Unfortunately this makes the sorbet taste rather unpleasant.