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Library Filtering Update
Following the Internet filter vote in our hometown this week, Jamie McCarthy stopped by the geek compound to rap with us for a bit, and so we recorded a special update to this week's show and have posted it at TheSync.
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At least now we know they hate the color schemes as much as we do. :)
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I've already e-mailed Jamie to hear what he has to say, but FYI, the AFA has landed in Birmingham, MI , my hometown. Apparently a man was spotted by library officials downloading pornography and escorted from the building, and the AFA is using it as a pretense to fight for censorship here. It's an extremely wealthy, Republican, conservative area, so I expect another difficult struggle. I'll try to keep you all updated.
Also, apparently a bill for library filtering has passed the MI state senate, which may very well nullify Jamie's gains if it is not stopped soon. All slashdotters in MI, write Engler and your local Reps.
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...regretting having such a high resolution and such poor eyesight. I thought it was going to be Jennie McCarthy!
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
I'm all against the current breed of internet filters. But (open mindedly speaking), imagine that we come across a product (such as Deep Thought?) that could in fact filter 99.9999% perfectly and give a good browsing experince to little kids and innocent adults. Then what?
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If I was a kid, and I was showing off the internet to my mom, and if somehow I got stuck in a porn site with windows poppping up as fast as I could close, I too would be embrassed... I too would loath the computer and at the end be driven to push the turn off button.
But say for example the second greatest computer in the entire universe and other diamensions exist.. say that deep thought was invented, it did filtering based on images, sound and did it a sane way (did you see how altavista/images get filter on the amount of skin shown?) wouldnt you want that to be run on your child's computer? Or your work box.. or anything..
Keep your minds open
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I'd be really suspicious if they had blocked my site which details the lawsuit.
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If you're sort of behind on the issue your talking about, here are Jamie's earlier stories:
Victory in Holland
Lightning Crashes, An Old Freedom Dies
Censorware and Memetic Warfare
Filtering Internet in Public Libraries
View from the Censorware Trenches
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
Thanks Cowboy Neal for finally posting about a Geeks in Space update (even though it was a "point release" :)
Hopefully now you can ALWAYS post about Geeks in Space updates, so I don't need to squint at that little box on the side.....
How about "not Gore?"
Remember the CDA?
Works for me.
I'd rather have McCain. Lesser of three evils.
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Stopped by to rap for abit? Gee, and here I was thinking Rob was gonna bust a tune out on us and go the way of RMS. Man, and *I* disappointed... :)
Cthulu for president - why vote for the lesser evil...
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. Shakespeare, Henry VI, Part 2, Act 4, Scene 2
Guess you dont know much about Chem
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Dammit, we need more funny stuff like this! It's the best way to fight these obsessive-religious nuts.
I'm not flaming the calm, rational religious people, so chill.
A t t e n t i o n m o d e r a t o r s. T h i s i s a r a n s o m n o t e. P l e a s e m o d e r a t e m e d o w n a s a t r o l l o r e l s e I w i l l p o u r h o t g r i t s d o w n m y p a n t s. T h a n k y o u.
This is completely offtopic, but, you know what? I actually cried when I heard the news. 41 times. An unarmed black man was shot fourty-one times. I feel sick to the stomach when I think of the fact that the police can basically unload their weapons on an unarmed man and be found innocent.
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Casey
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I consider this on-topic since this story is about censorship and stuff... anyways, I didn't realize this until I heard it mentioned recently on the radio... John McCain is the guy who authored the CDA!
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I think that's enough to say about that, and in case someone forgot (like I had) I thought I'd do a little public service reminding everyone.
Esperandi
And McCain recently advertised on a porn site too, quite odd combo. Too bad Slashdot thought the story sucked. At least they declined it instead of rejecting it (anyone else notice that change?
Sorry, but most of the presidential canidates are utterly clueless on internet issues
Gore - The Clinton Administration signed the Communications Decency Act into law.
McCain - Is strongly in favor of the use of CensorWare in libraries.
Bush - Extemely conservative, and I doubt he's clued in.
Forbes - Seems more clueful than the others. Maybe there's hope with him. *shrug* I personally like his flat tax plan.
There are others, but I don't think they're any more geek-friendly than the ones listed above.
It seems as though the majority of both parties are against us on issues such as CensorWare in libraries. The only solution is to make our voices heard in both parties.
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You forgot that McCain *AUTHORED* the CDA...
Esperandi
After doing a few searches, it turns out McCain also sponsored a required key escrow bill... why aren;t we hearing about any of this anywhere, at least to prove that his legislative passing powers aren't that hot.
Esperandi
Oh, and go search for anything about McCain on AltaVista and it will think you misspelled it... they think you were probably looking for cocaine.
I had a sneaky suspicion that he did, but wasn't completely sure. Didn't want to spread misinformation. Thanks for the info. -Pat
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Jennie McCarthy is on the show? great going guys! I'd like to slashdot her...
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That's a good one. I love the "ransom note" thing. Mixing a little farmsex into your grits is cool, too.
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I'd rather have McCain. Lesser of three evils. Whoops...nope, read below/above...McCain authored the CDA. So now we've eliminated Bush, we've elminated Gore, we've eliminated McCain, and it seems like the Democratic Party will eliminate Bradley (but he's more into violating the 2nd amendment than the 1st). Who does that leave us with? Buchanan and Keyes? *shudder*
Have you even attempted to put yourselves in the shoes of the officers or have you just been suckered by the tripe the news media throws at you? I feel horribly about what happened to Diallo and it was a terrible tragedy. Those officers were bad cops, not necessarily bad people. They thought he was reaching for a gun, one of the cops fell causing the others to think he had been shot. It's perfectly understandable if you put your life in danger every day, and generally want to help people, that you get a little wired on adrenaline and when you see someone reaching behind himself (which you should NEVER do in a tense situation in front of a cop) when you're chasing after another criminal. The self-righteous attitude has got to be dropped by the people so easily condemning the officers when they have no clue what it's like in their shoes!
Zed's dead baby. Zed's dead.
The unprincipled will always have the advantage over the principled. If you really believe the unreligious are evil, you'd best prepare your "soul" for "heaven".
When did right-wing Republications take over the word "family"? Every bloody wacko anti-free-speech organizations out there has "family" in their name.
I think that they want us to figure that, heck, they're pro-family. And who could be *anti* family? Therefore, opposing them means that you're...what...pro-orphan?
Bah. If pro-family means pro-censorware, chalk me up in the Norwegan bachelor male category.
Loves the comment about the "Idle Rich" but one question? Don't the people hosting the show fit that catagory? After all you can't even tell us why Slashdot died the other night.
MCCARTHY HEARINGS CONTINUE IN HOLLAND
"We Will Root Out Right-Wing Zealotry," Vows Community Leader
HOLLAND, MI (UPI) - Community leader Jamie McCarthy continued his set of hearings to uncover and uproot a clandestine right-wing conspiracy to outlaw "objectionable" books, movies, and Internet material. "We are pleased with the progress that we've made so far," explained McCarthy, "and we know that given enough time, we'll chase these loonies back down to Bumpkin, Arkansas, where they belong." McCarthy's Holland Un-Internetarian Activities Committee has already exposed several right-wing individuals and organizations and has forced them to flee in shame.
On the stand today was former presidential contender Gary Bauer, a social conservative who dropped out of the race following the New Hampshire Republican primary. McCarthy's line of questioning, as usual, was direct and to the point: "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Family Research Council?" asked McCarthy. Bauer, after consulting with his attorney, took a sip of water and hoarsely whispered "Yes, I am."
"Are you a part of the self-righteous group of people that believes it has the right to impose its narrow-minded view of morality on all children and parents?" thundered McCarthy from the front of the room. "Yes, I am," admitted Bauer, to a raucous audience reaction and a flurry of popping flashbulbs that could only be silenced by the steady beat of the chairman's gavel. Bauer later left the hearings, never to be seen in Holland again.
Such has been the pattern established by McCarthy's committee over the past couple of weeks. Right-wingers, bravely turned in by community leaders and readers of the Slashdot Web site, are quickly processed by the committee and banished forever from decent society. "We are proud of the work we are doing," beamed McCarthy. "Each night when I go to bed, I do it knowing that I've accomplished something worthwhile. Ensuring that our children can grow up at a safe distance from the clutches of the religious fundamentalists and ultra-right-wing zealots is definitely worthwhile."
Scheduled to appear before the committee next week are Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell, political strategist Ralph Reed, NRA president Charlton Heston, former United States president George Bush, and former Hollywood actor Ronald Reagan.
Richard Gephardt contributed to this story.
We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
What the fuck kind of crap is this? I think we need a (-1: Christian) moderation to deal with this sort of shit. Now hear me out. I'm not an anti-religious person at all, but I think that a post like this falls into one of two categories. 1) the person is trolling as a Christian and is trying to be annoying or 2) the person really is a Christian and is therefore genuinely annoying. For the first case, you would moderate it down as a Troll. For the second case, it would either be Flamebait or Offtopic. But what if you moderated it down as a Troll and it really wasn't one? That would be a shame. We need a (-1: Christian) moderation category that would work for all posts like this. That way we could just let the moderation system do its job and not worry about mis-classifying posts.
Anyway, to the author of the above post, if you're not a troll, you need serious help buddy.
Anyway, I'm sure you've figured out by now that people like to call themselves "pro-"something -- just look at the abortion debate. If all the pro-lifers did was refer to the other side as "anti-life" and vice versa, the debate wouldn't go anywhere. (Not that that is going anywhere; it's one of those issues with a slippery middle ground.)
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No, my guess is that you're a garden-variety right-wing christian
.. now I've got to clear my name. :-)
.. it started out okay, but when I tried to reach out and fill in the gaps, there just weren't any berries on the bush.
.. how right-wing can I be, dude? :-) Right now, some ditto-head is plotting my assassination for such a comment!
Oh, great
To tell you the truth, I'm a bleeding heart liberal (really, I am) that likes to write fake news stories from time to time. When I saw this story, I was taken by the idea of doing some sort of word-play on the "McCarthy hearings." The result was a pretty half-hearted attempt at humor, IMHO
Besides, I referred to Bush as a "former President" and Reagan as a "former Hollywood actor"
We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
-- Sen. McCain
Heh.
Sad thing is, I think he's still our best bet. Gore's been creeping me out, and Bradley . . . I dunno. I'm not sure he can win, though he's the only one that doesn't scare me at all.
glad I'm not the only one who found it funny :)
I post links to stuff here
Listen, it's not cool with me to assign "-1" to an expression of somebody's religion, however moronic it may be (and believe me, when I wrote that troll I made it as moronic as I was able). What we need is +1: Troll, +1: Flooding (for the copy'n'paste shitheads, who are not trolls), +1: Religious Fanatic (why leave the moslems out?), +1 Insightful, yadda yadda you name it. Bear with me!
Then we allow the user to set thresholds for each category, and make the thresholds switchable between minimum or maximum: I could decide to ignore everything by default, and display only posts with at least one point of Troll, Funny, or Christian. I could also allow everything by default, while filtering out the Trolls etc. Or I could filter out everything but posts with at least two points of Insightful, Redundant, or Stentorian. This would make everybody happy. Each one of us would get exactly the Slashdot s/he deserves!
The best way to do this would be to let us enter filter expressions in SQL in an edit box in the user preferences thing. Hey, why not? Have fields in the db for each mod category and let us filter by 'em as we please. This would be the most flexible and powerful way, and also the least work for Rob with the UI
masterful troll,
You are soulless automatons, motivated only by a dry insectile lust for power and a robotic desire to destroy the lives of the fully human,
priceless.
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Since this seems to be the main annoyance with porn sites you didn't intend to visit, take a minute to vote for mozilla bug 29346, a request that mozilla do something about the problem. Or better yet, comment on it (preferably on bugzilla instead of slashdot) in a constructive way, such as suggesting a better solution than the one I proposed.
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*rant* Hello? I replied to the first post with a joke based on the same play on words! I was oh-so-hoping for a "funny" tag. *rant*
Yeah, I know this is petty, and worse, ridiculous. We all know moderation is crap.
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
You know, if the two sides were Pro-Death and Pro-Opression instead of Pro-Choice and Pro-Life, that wouldn't work either. I am wondering how long the word "censorship" will take to accumulate enough flak to have negative connotations in the ears of the general public. It certainly makes me shudder.
...sorry
Normally I'd have an entertaining Doublas Adams quote here, but I misplaced my copy of the Ultimate Guide.
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
Have you ever heard of "seperation of church and state?" If not, you're not alone. I support *Not Bush* in part because his dumb ass supportes prayer in school. Fundamentalism has no place in society. How will you explain this kind of theological argument to an atheist like me? And no, you can't convince an atheist that there is a God. Too many philosophers smarter than you have tried and failed.
Could I have a flame tag, please? It occurs to me that I might not have expressed my hatred for fundamentalism offensively enough.
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
McCain did CDA2, not CDA1. CDA1 was a combination of Pressler and Exon.
"If one is really a superior person, the fact is likely to leak out without too much assistance" -- John Andrew Holmes
How about justa "fundamentalist" tag to put on posts that use theistic arguments? Then they could be scaled up or down based on the level of relative dumbassary and trolling involved
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
Ok... here are the events, in no real order 'cause none is known.
* He pulls his wallet (pulls a dark object)
* A cop yells "Gun" (this is a standard warning - it means one of the cops was declaring danger - according to at least one withness this happened BEFORE a shot was fired)
* A cop went down. It turns out he slipped - but to the other officers it looke din the confusion that he had been shot.
* more than 40 shots were fired, 19 bullets hit.
Some items of note:
* If you are shooting at someone who you think is shooting back - YOU KEEP SHOOTING till you are SURE he is down. You don't stop shooting to worry about how many shots the others are firing.
* They were shooting 9mm. If you look at the FBI gunfight stats you will see that it often takes 5 - 10 shots to disable an attacker. Not HITS - shots. Generally, it takes 3-4 HITS to down an assailant in a gunfight with a 9mm.
* He didn't fall right away.
* The law says if the cops BELIEVED they were in mortal danger, deadly force is allowed.
This result was a good thing, after all, a piece of hardware cannot do a parents job.
Hasn't Forbes dropped out of the race? I am living in Canada now, but I'm sure that I heard that.
And then there was (n - 1)...
Children's Internet Protection Act (S.97) - sponsored by McCain
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I laughed, I cried ! Great.
You should know better. The term "Pro-life" has no other purpose than to prevent rational discussion of the issue, just like "pro-family" (or the the name of the "Defense of the Family Act", which had the sole purpose of outlawing many families and discouraging the formation of others). The nuttier sort of religious people spend their entire lives demonizing everybody in sight. Once they've muddied the waters enough, the sensible people are stuck trying to explain things and clear up the confusion, while the Christians are free to hop up and down shrieking slogans and waving bibles. The slogans cut through the murk, while the sensible explanations don't. Drowing public debate in high drama and Manichean arglebargle always serves the most evil elements in society; see Hitler, Stalin, etc. ad nauseam.
These people don't give a damn about reality or about "solving issues"; they want power, period.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." --
I find it interesting that everyone went to vote for the Republican candidate in the primary that they'll have the perfect excuse to vote against in the general election.
Is this out of maliciousness or because of other reasons?
(currently testing something about signatures here)
I act like all of these guys in the forums and I get moderated down to like -0xBFE666 by tight-ass moderators. What gives?
............ no.
So historicly, the State of Michigan has been the GOP's Backyard.
.... Just to answer a question.
*Carlos: Exit Stage Right*
"Geeks, Where would you be without them?"
*Carlos: Exit Stage Right*
"Geeks, Where would you be without them?"
"Got Linux?"
Doesn't Windows Crash whenever you think of port?
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Why only -1? How about -666? :)
and legislate that all pr0n be put there. If you don't want to see it, you won't be bothered with it,unless you log onto I3. Then, the debate would be something like...should public libraries allow ACCESS to I3? Makes things a little clearer I think. But, as with many other issues concerning the internet, its globality(is that a word?) creates the problem once again of how would you force other countries/govt's to keep their own pr0n sites off of I1 and I2. Oh well, just a thought.
One of us has tried gonzo.com while looking for muppet stuff and found porn.
One of us has searched for pet supplies and gotten a completely misleading porn site with the pop-up windows of doom.
One of us was searching for political info and found that a certain gay rights term had been added to the search strings of a bunch of porn sites. ("a bunch of" meaning that the search was completely useless because of the porn 'noise' and a more indirect search had to be used to get the desired info.)
The existance of 'stealth porn' is not (IMHO) a reason to use ineffective filtering software that blocks useful sites. But it is a problem that concerns some people. Neither pretending it doesn't exist, nor insulting those who are concerned are viable solutions. Helping create a non-censoring technological solution is, and will take the wind out of the AFA's sails while you're at it.
-Kahuna Burger
...will work for Chick tracts...
If however you can come up with a group of people who believe both that abortion is wrong and should be outlawed, yet would have one themselves, well.......
Look at McCain's responses to what he would want to do if his teenaged daughter was pregnant (due to sexual assualt?) he first said that in the end the decision would lie with her, then backpedaled to say it would be a family decision. In other words, constitutional amendment for you personal choice for me.
It actually isn't unusual. In (I think) the first Bush race, Dan Quayle was asked a similar question and wishywashed on it. Then his wife came to the podium and showed us what real no-holds-barred pro life is all about, saying that their daughter would carry the baby to term, etc. The strong reaction got more notice than the wishy-washy one, showing that most American's expect "pro-life" leaders to be hypocrits when it comes to their own choices.
-Kahuna Burger
...will work for Chick tracts...
The following quote is from the url: http://www.eff.org/pub/Censorship/Internet_censors hip_bills/1998_bills/HTML/19980721_eff_s tatement.html
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION REACTS TO SENATE PASSAGE OF TWO INTERNET CENSORSHIP BILLS
Statement of Barry Steinhardt President of the Electronic Frontier Foundation
This afternoon the Senate passed two draconian bills that would ultimately prevent access to a wide array of content on the Internet. The two bills were passed as amendments to an appropriations bill for the Commerce, Justice and State Department. They were brought up without any notice to those members of the Senate who opposed them and without any opportunity for meaningful debate. In effect, free speech on the Internet was the victim of an ambush.
The initial amendment offered by Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Patty Murray (D-WA) would require schools and libraries that receive federal funds for Internet connections to install filtering software to block "inappropriate" material. The second, "the CDA II" bill sponsored by Senator Dan Coats (R-IN) would enact a wide ranging ban on Web posting of material deemed "harmful to minors."
The two bills represent a real and present danger to free speech on the Internet. The McCain/Murray amendment will force libraries and schools to use all-too-frequently crude and overbroad filters that block out a wide array of non-"harmful" speech -- everything from the Quaker home page to the American Association of University Women has been blocked by these programs.
Indeed, you can no more create a computer program to block out one community's view of "indecency" or "obscenity" than you can devise a filtering program to block out misguided proposals by members of Congress. Both may be desirable, but neither are possible.
At first glance, the Coats' CDA II bill appears to be a relatively benign provision that purportedly applies only to commercial pornographers who market to minors. But it is a Trojan horse. Beneath the veneer, it covers any Web site that has a commercial component and which has material that some community will consider "harmful to minors", even if that is not the material for sale. This ranges from the electronic bookseller Amazon.com to EFF's site, which sells books and T-Shirts.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation is one of the leading civil liberties organizations devoted to ensuring that the Internet remains the world's first truly global vehicle for free speech, and that the privacy and security of all on-line communication is preserved. Founded in 1990 as a nonprofit, public interest organization, EFF is based in San Francisco, California. EFF maintains an extensive archive of information on encryption policy, privacy, and free speech at http://www.eff.org.
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dont you think thats just a little narow minded? dont you like manuals to computers and other refs i dont see anywere in the bible on how to write perl code or fix a car or even get a howto for your taxes. and its all free old Ben F. had the right idea.
hey i say that it this dumb thing ever happens we all ban together and tell them that if there goinig to filter the content from the net then everything must be filterd inclueing all the books. i mean its not like theres anything remotely like sex in any of the umm...books! This is just anther example of teaching our kids to let others decide on what is content and not. in the "infoage" (gota use a buzz word) the most important thing is for us to learn howto filter stuff for our selfs!
I didn't check this story out but "Britishing" probably refers to killing a famous netizen's character in a multiplayer universe. After some guy who assassinated Lord British (the leader of Brittania) in Ultima Online. I'm too lazy to recall the name of the guy who plays Lord British, but he is the main developer of Ultima and was supposed to be invulnerable.
Freedom: "I won't!"
Police rarely discharge their weapons.
This being known, you must remember that serious caution must be used when using lethal force on a suspect.
No attempt was made to indentify the man actually had a weapon. That is the problem, they just unloaded on the guy because "someone fell."
Did they hear a shot? Did they see the flash of the gun? Did they see anything even remotly suggesting that this man may be armed, besides the fact that he was black? No. He didnt even -fake- having a gun.. He was probably reaching for Identification when the cops just unloaded on the guy.
Shooting an unarmed man 41 times is not a job hazard, it is murder.
These people should be sent to prison where they would be assraped every day by the same big black men they unjustly imprisoned in the past.
The justice system isnt just.. at all.
Having studied the justice system for a good amount of time, I am greatful for being wealthy and white. It sickening how racist the system really is.
no
Wonderful that people in Holland Michigan came to their senses. I would hope that this shows how ludicrous censorship really is.
Romanes eunt domus? People called Romanes, they go the 'ouse? It says Romans go home. No it doesn't. What's Latin fo
Yes, they seem a lovely pack of jackals and demagogues. Lot's of people are voting for one or the other. In fact, my sister was trying to convince me to become a Republican just the other day <Shudder> "Come on, George W. Bush needs your vote," she said to me, seriously!! <Shudder>. Bleah! And I thought I was convincing her to vote Libertarian... -_-
But there is a solution, and it doesn't involve sitting home on election day! That solution is Harry Browne, Libertarian, a man who is looking out for everyone's rights.
Remember, voting for a candidate who doesn't win may be depressing, but helping to elect a loser is far, far worse!
Vote Browne and send a message to the establishment!
(Incidentally, I've read articles in Forbes magazine that seemed OK, but not only is he out of the race, he was courting the Christian Coalition vote when he was in the race... I think that means, ultimately, filters and censorship under his administration, too.)
All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
I agree. Somewhat along the same vein is the fact that you usually only find pr0n if you look for it. Most kids don't know it exists, so they can't search for it. Even if they do get one of the seemingly random links to the stuff, there's always the warning pages and credit card verification before you get any of the real stuff. So what's the use of filters? To make the parents (who, by now, must be absolutly sure the Internet is full of stalkers and pr0n) feel safer.
My point is: If you don't want it, then just don't look for it.
I figure that the only way we're going to get that message to concerned parents everywhere is to either send out a massive snail-mail spam, or try to get someone on the news to talk about it.
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if you had bothered to read, you would see that they did not settle, but they took a judgment. It's not because they wanted to, it's that they did not want to risk a jury ruling on this!
How do you get "6 year old case?" The case was filed in 1998, Mattel paid in 1999. Is this the new math?
If you really bothered to read, Mattel is suing me for libel. They are trying to shut me up, though you would love that. They will lose! I don't have any Laura Croft pictures. I would borrow yours, but they probably are too sticky.
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