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1.6GHz Athlon Computers, Via Announces KT266 chips
GimpyAMD writes: " Sys has announced 1.6GHz desktop and workstation computers that use KryoTech's cooling process to achieve that clock rate with Athlons behind them. Apparently they will be out late October to November. Also, we have Via's press release on their KT266 chipset that supports DDRSDRAM ."
You're just getting settled in with that brand-spankin' new KT133 socket-A motherboard you just bought (to replace the KX133 you bought a couple of months back) ???
Well, chuck it out! We got a new one for you...
Lets see. We started off this year with the AMD 750 set, switched to the KX133 for a (very) modest performance boost, swtiched to the KT133 for the socket chips -- and the next wave is already here.
Four chipset generations in one year. Must be some kind of record.
At this point, the expiration date for a computer and the expiration date for a jug of milk are rapidly converging.
nope, you're just wrong.
again.
There are a wide variety of compute bound tasks. They are surely less than 1% of the market, but there are plenty of scientist/engineers would love to get a machine that could run their N hour jobs 60% faster.
God, nobody's going to understand that... ;) I need to go to bed.
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Oh, the humanity...
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
The killer hardware would be to have a bank of 16 "serial ATA" ports with an asynchronous drive on each port. Of course I2O would likely be better still, but that seems pretty vaprous, certainly for the consumer market...
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
If you haven't tried it already, download the NewDeal
Office demo from NewDeal and give it a whirl.
Amazing what it can do on a low-end machine! There is
even a VNC viewer available to connect to your Linux box.
Another name for IEEE 1394 is FireWire.
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"Most of the CPU power is outright wasted when it's spending it's interrupt time assortedly waiting for an IDE drive, a WinModem, and such. "
Most likely they'll use ATA100 drives. If you don't recall, from UDMA33 and up (UDMA66, ATA100), the cpu doesn't have to 'wait' on the drive like before. The controller can transfer directly to RAM and the CPU can occupy itself elsewhere, at least if it's a multitasking system.
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Hee-hee. You have no idea at all how underutilized the typical game-playing PC is
/strategy / flight simulator like Longbow spent more than half the processing power at the time on keeping track of the hundreds of units on the battlefield. Very little of the processing power was shown on the screen (but Voodoo sure made it look better!).
Most every computer on earth spends more time waiting for the user than vice-versa. So yes, almost all computers are "underutilized" if you mean that they don't run at 100% CPU 24 hours a day.
But yes, playing a game can max out many CPUs (though more recent processors have more headroom thanks to the advent of consumer-level 3d graphics chips to offload processing).
Heck, there are games on the five year old PlayStation that outgun high-end PC games, which is damn amazing considering that the PS has about 1/3 the graphics power of a Voodoo 1
It depends what games you're talking about -- graphics intensive games with little "math" behind them work great on consoles -- not much processing required beyond pushing polygons around.
But there is more to the game world than first-person shooters, and a persistent war
Tetris doesn't require a P3, and neither does Quake 3 (it requires a decent 3d card), but you'd be hard-pressed to make a "big world" type of game on a playstation because it's about more than graphics.
The original poster was correct, though, that games are what pushes the technology in computers (along with video). Not many other apps can actually hit 100% CPU on a P3, and have a customer base willing to shell out the cash to improve that.
I do 3d graphics and remember the bad old days of paying $1000 for an OpenGL card with 2 megs of memory (this was like 1997, not so long ago). Thanks to 3Dfx and the game market, every consumer has 10 times that power, and it's good for us all...
I'm an investigator. I followed a trail there.
Q.Tell me what the trail was.
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I can't wait until we get to 1.21 GHz.. then I can run around saying, "1.21 GHz? 1.21 GHz?! The only thing capable of producing that much power is a bolt of lightning!!"
1.21GHz!!
-Frijoles-
That's not one you can lay at Bill's feet. He was responsible for obtaining DOS and making it run on the hardware, but the hardware specifications (and the BIOS) were true Big Blue. Mr. Gates may have a few things to answer for, but I don't think that's one of them.
Laissez lire, et laissez danser; ces deux amusements ne feront jamais de mal au monde. - Voltaire
Well, I don't know about the first program, but it would seem to me you should be able to recompile the latter two to run on a DEC Alpha. What's stopping you? Or is there some boxed software only available for i386 that you use as well?
Laissez lire, et laissez danser; ces deux amusements ne feront jamais de mal au monde. - Voltaire
...and this is in reference to...what? The story is about a company that uses a cooling unit (likely 50-60Lbs and a 400W power sink in itself) almost the size of the PC to overclock an Athlon to 1.6 GHz. You want to lug that around for a laptop? I can see it now:
(On American flight 2603 to Little Rock)
Stewardess: Excuse me sir, but you'll have to put your "laptop" away.
Cecil: What? No way, lady, the guy next to me is using his! And he's only got a Tecra! Mine's a Sys Cold-Fusion!
Stewardess: I know, sir, but your computer is taking up the entire aisle.
Cecil. Computer? See, it fit's under the seat in front of me!
Stewardess: Oh? Is THAT why the upolstery is smouldering? And that battery pack above us...
Cecil: What? The lead-acid cells are 2 lbs under the storage capacity of the overhead bin!
Stewardess: Actually, we need to stow those in the hazardous waste container at the back of the plane.
Cecil: Great! No power! You have an adapter?
Stewardess: How much power do you need?
Cecil: Oh, about 1000 Watts
Stewardess: That's just about how much the generator puts out for the whole aircraft. Shut it down, sir.
Cecil: Awww, geez, it's such a nice laptop too. All the guys on Slashdot think so!
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As taken from SYS's website:
"The SYS Cold-Fusion desktop, the world's fastest PC, is intended for digital content creation, 3D graphics and game design, CAD/CAM, desktop publishing, financial analysis, and very serious gaming. Built around KryoTech's vapor phase refrigeration technology, the system provides unprecedented performance."
Funny, they didn't talk about web browsing and word processing!
you just hit the nail on the head.
People who buy the 1.6ghz are either trying to number crunch faster, or play games faster...
not necessarily try to run them as servers.
Karnal
It does effect framerate. IIRC, carmack said you get about a 20% speedup, coz all ai and stuff is moved away from the rendering cpu.... But i may not RC :-)
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Send lawyers, guns, and money!
yes optimiztion is laking
back when I used a APPLE IIGS
computers didn't double clock rates every 6 months (or what ever)
I used that computer for several years after it was discontinued
and there were a group of programers in france called FTA
(free tools association) that did some really AMAZING stuff
by pushing the IIGS's capabitlities farther then anyone had done
when the IIGS was in it's prime.
It just makes me wonder what programmers would do with todays
technology if no new advavces came out for 5 years
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You left out games
Gamers arre the people how really push the emveope.
If it wasn't for games everyone would use a mac
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nobody said a 1.66 Ghz chip is targeted at consumers for speedier IMing or word processing.. think about it.
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these things ... it really is nice to see them getting a little more of the speed out of the chipset ... ... (there *is* quite a bit more till the "theoretical limit" on that set, isn't there?)
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-if i don't get a little more sleep i'm going to delete all the firewall shit off my damned alarm clock!
"high-speed V-Link bus, as integrated six channel advanced audio, six USB ports, LPC bus, and integrated 10/100Mbps Ethernet and Home PNA."
Am I just out of the loop here? Or are these just new buzzwords form somthing renamed like IEE1394?
I too bought a box from alienware, just recently as a matter of fact. The box would constantly hang. 100% failure rate on eq within 4 minutes. After trying all sorts of driver updates the problem finally resolved itself when I removed the WindowsMe that shipped with it and installed windows98.
I also had this goofy problem where the redhat6.2 install had the "turn of pentium GUID" option selected in the default kernel, so it would halt on boot. I just built a kernel on my other box and dd on to boot disk to fix that. I also cannot get the SBlive linux drivers to make make sound come out the headphones jack, but works fine through the speakers. This post probably belongs on a newsgroup somewhere....
I think this post is a troll, but I'm intrigued by this:
> there's a point (the "absolute processing
> point") where the speed of a program is
> dependent solely on the algorithm used, and not
> on how fast the microprocessor is chugging along
Huh? Can somebody shed some light on this "absolute processing point?" Sure, most tasks are going to be constrained by other resources, such as disk or memory bandwidth, once you pump the CPU speed up enough, but "dependent solely on the algorithm?"
This just makes no sense to me.
Why is this vaporware? It's a product announcement! It's not a particularly innovative product announcement... I mean after all they are essentially just reselling Kryotech cases with their configuration of components inside -- but I can't even begin to count the number of companies that happilly announce real products a month before they begin shipping!
They apologize at the end of the page because they announced back in June that this configuration was coming and only now they are able to produce them in high enough bulk to sell them. Announcing something they couldn't produce was a mistake they probably won't make again.
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and was originally intended to get some Funny mods.
But, it seems as though either
Guess my attempt at being a karma whore backfired eh?
Don't sweat the petty things. But do pet the sweaty things.
Now, partially it is nothing more than a macho act of stupidity, and heavy marketing from the industry. For example, refrigerators have been a more or less static appliance in the home for the last ~twenty years, but still have managed to keep their price up by adding 'needed' features. But I digress.
The processor increases help Joe Consumer get technology for the future. Software programs generally aren't developed for the top three percent of the processor market, they are developed for the mainstream. When Joe Consumer has a 1Ghz Chip under his hood, more companies will invent software to utilize it. Back in the days of 486s, technologies such as MP3 playback and photo editing weren't widely available, because the CPU wasn't fast enough for it. But as CPU speeds increase, more options come of age. MPEG-4 is here, MPEG-7 is around the corner, voice recognition software is becoming effective, and other new cutting edge CPU intensive tasks are always developing.
The bottom line is, When Joe buys this computer, the market will invent reasons for him to need it. Mr. Consumer won't buy faster computers if they don't have any effect on his usage.
Now while I do think that tech such as SMP and bandwidth are more useful, progress is progress. No point bitching about it. As for your statements about the need for better portable storage, I think that the proliferation of high bandwidth will keep this need to a minimal.
I'm well aware of the hardware limitations of the 8086 and the original PC (model 5150?). However, he did say someting to that effect (don't have the exact quote available).
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
A 1.66GHz chip in a desktop? Who in their right mind would need that kind of computing power?
And nobody will need more than 640K RAM. Just ask Bill Gates.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
> A 1.66GHz chip in a desktop? Who in their right mind would need that kind of computing power?
Game Developers (Artists: Reduce Render Time and Programmers: Compile Time)
Engineers (CAD modeling)
Biologists, and Chemists (Medical Imaging: Voxel processing)
Real-Time image recognition
And of course games.
a) AI seems to be making use of the extra time we have with faster cpu's. AI is now actually getting 20% cpu time per frame, due to graphics being off-loaded to the 3d video card.
b) More accurate and realistic physics.
> Desktops have only a limited number of functions
You have to stop thinking "inside the box."
i.e.
Why spend $10K for an SGI box, when an NT box is $5K. Better bang for the buck.
> there's a point (the "absolute processing point") where the speed of a program is dependent solely on the algorithm used, and not on how fast the microprocessor is chugging along.
For some apps, yes.
But lets say you use an O(n) counting sort. Now if you sort 1,000,000 entries on a 500 Mhz, the 1 GHz will do the job in roughly 1/2 the time.
Of course it's even worse if the comparision sort is O(n log n)
Cheers
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I have had quite a few different Kryotech PCs in my house. I first ordered an 800. Within a week or two, either the mobo or the chip had fried. Because of their proprietary chip cage, that meant dragging the whole 85-lb thing up the stairs.
When they shipped my replacement, they sent me someone else's new 900 by accident, and graciously agreed to let me keep it at no charge. This worked for a while, and then mysteriously failed one night while I was out of town. It didn't POST at all.
I asked them to replace it under warranty and I'd pay the difference to upgrade to the new SuperG. Again, they were amenable to this, and my 1GHz was on its way.
I don't remember what happened this time, but it didn't work at all either. So they sent a replacement Super G, but the power supply was dead out of the box.
By this time, of course, room-temperature 1GHz chips were widely available. It is a tribute to Kryotech that they were willing to take back the last of the Kryotech hardware and give me a full refund, but it never really worked.
I don't think I've ever said this about anyone, but Kryotech is one company that could stand to bring their *quality* department up to where their *customer service* is!
For God's sake! Enough with the "imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things" posts!
Free Hans!
You could always use it for cracking RC-5 keys.
/. is slippin on the RC-5 project. Keep sending in those cracked keys!
btw
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Yes, if you are close friends with amd(like kryotech is) and can get processors that don't have the locks.. This is all amd sanctioned..
I dont know about anyone else, but I am sick and tired of people even joking about beowulf clusters! People being serious about their comments was bad enough. If I see anyone type "beowulf" one more time I am going to go on a killing rampage!
Buying a Dell computer is equivalent to dropping the soap in a prison shower.
What I'm imagining is a cluster of your family's heads, hollowed out and made in to computer cases. Wow, that would be neato.
The current Slashdot moderation system is made by gay communists!
Isenhourer had the hippies.......... but really the issue here is, why are we quite while our pets are sexually abused by wandering aztecs? I hear the silent scream, and its getting on my nerves. Will you ignore bozer when his ass bleeds?
The current Slashdot moderation system is made by gay communists!
auh, po wittle baby 's haawaaare was badly engineered ana canna no be run onna modern systems. here's a widdle wolley-pop, now go play in da stweet.....
The current Slashdot moderation system is made by gay communists!
Simply playing an MPEG4 movie (e.g., using the divx plugin for Windows media player) uses most of the CPU utilization of a 700 MHz Thunderbird. Creating a 2 hour long MPEG4 movie from a DVD extracted mpeg file takes about 10 hours an the same Thunderbird system. It would probably still take several hours even on a 1.6 GHz Athlon. There is the potential for a lot of cool applications if the compression could be done "live." However, even a 1.6 Athlon is not fast enough for this.
So, I think a lot of people in their right mind need that kind of computing power. As audio/video compression gets better, the processing power required to encode and decode will likely continue to increase.
What's with all the processor stuff recently?(Pentium 4 problems! Intel roadmap! 1.6 athlon!)
Did I miss something?
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What happens when you wish to render some transitions or other special effects? You can buy hardware to provide a limited number of transitions, or you can do it in software. Do you want a dedicated MP3 encoding PCI board, or do you want to do it from software. A faaaast CPU, capable of being a jack of all trades (but not specialised in one) is cheaper than buying 243 hardware boards. Besides, where are you going to plug in 243 cards? I say bring the MHZ on!!!!! (I for one need more CPU power). Do you wish to know why? Check http://members.optusnet.com.au/~delija/Pic01.jpg Thats why.
Revolution = Evolution
Cranking up the bus speed has never been a problem :)
Cranking up the bus speed has never been a problem :)
RAM generally runs at system bus speed. SDRAM faster than PC133 (7.5 ns) is not widely available, let alone cheap.
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Will I retire or break 10K?
I was board, and built one out of 486's.
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No were not negative on /., we just want to read about things available for purchase and use..
;)
Might I suggest ebay?
just cause 'desktop' implies UI, its also allowed to run some compute-heavy jobs now and then too...
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Does anyone actually have a Java program designed to control air traffic, or for the operation of a nuclear facility?
Though Intel sure does want us to believe its incredible Pentium III can magically "enhance your Internet experience."
how intensive would it be converting MPEG4 to MPEG2 on the fly?
am I the only one on this planet with a hardware DVD/MPEG decoder?
FFS, stop it with the MOVs, AVIs and REAL-SHIT movie formats! I can only hardware decode MPEG2 damnit!
make one of em full screen, and tell me how much you like that grainy, non-antialiased mess.
and then look at my hardware decoder in fullscreen mode - the 4+ times magnification is almost unnoticable with antialiasing, not to mention zero dropped frames and full Dolby Digital surround sound. All in a file equal or less size than some gay mov or avi which only does standard stereo and doesn't scale up to even 2x magnification without looking shitty. even software mpeg can handle 2x.
Mr. Moore works out of a cubicle (hey, it's his perogative, I guess).
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Umm... compiling large C++ projects comes to mind.
Help save the critically endangered Blue Iguana
Seriously though, I'm about to build up another machine (Have the case/HDD and RAID controller) that just wants to be a dual Athlon, but it seems it'll just be a dual PIII... Shame about that really.
In democracy your vote counts. In feudalism your count votes.
There's two Moore's Laws.
The first (the real one) was actually uttered by Moore and deals with transistor density. Boring.
The second was concocted by Intel's marketing department and describes their past and future plans to entice you to buy a new product every couple years, guaranteeing them a nice revenue stream. The way it's usually described is Every 18 Months the performance/price of the CPU doubles. (Substitute Mhz for performance as necessary.)
When I hear the word 'innovation', I reach for my pistol.
It's a good thing that the moderators on Slashdot are smarter than you - this explains why they rated my posting as "Funny" rather than "Informative".
Life's a buffer; you can only get out of it what you put into it! C:-)
It just goes to show that history is a lie because history was nearly all written by marketing departments! :-D
- Juggler (of Australia)
Life's a buffer; you can only get out of it what you put into it! C:-)
And why is it that when I knock on Mr Moore's office I can hear some muffled whimpering but no-one answers the door? :)
-Andrew.
Life's a buffer; you can only get out of it what you put into it! C:-)
I'll wait for the "regular" machines just to be safe. I purchased and overclocked (and supposedly well-cooled) machine from Alienware as my main gaming box, and the thing crashed regularly. Ended up building a machine from scratch (not overclocked, but at least properly cooled).
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No were not negative on /., we just want to read about things available for purchase and use..
Atleast I do...
Is there nothing cool coming currently on the market...
Sys Technology is pleased to announce the preliminary configuration
Ah, just overclock a bunch of cheap chips and supercool them with Flourinert or a similar substance. I'd like to see one of those. (How about a liquid nitrogen cooled 32-node Beowulf cluster of overclocked PIIIs?)
Easily fixed. Just get a solid-state drive for those speedy searches. Then port PovRay to an IC board for hardware raytracing. Same thing for file compression. Finally, take some valium and watch the PC speed up as your brain slows down.
-Billco, Fnarg.com
Have you heard of games? Some people do use these things for entertainment. and no way is KryoTech or Sys trying to get the mainstream. THIS IS VERY FAR FROM MAINSTREAM. Those suckers are huge and cost a fortune, but at least they are there for those who want them. Who said it would speed up their downloads? I think you're referring to the "NetBus" on the P4 and the how the PIII would "change the Internet" if you'll recall from their ads during the SuperBowl.
They're just overclocking. Yes, people can think of the new designs, but you're not going to go from 1.1GHz to 1.6GHz over night unless you get one of these.
Since when? You should check your facts, all AMD's CPUs support SMP. The problem is there isn't a chipset for it, which AMD, Micron, and Via are all working on and will be out Q1 2001.
There's probably another issue here. I've heard of no problems at all with video editing and Athlons. That simply wouldn't make sense of your encoder not work because of a CPU. Have you tried it on another Athlon system or toyed around with your config?
Does anyone know which t-bird chip is in these to reach the 1.6ghz? Also, it mentions a new chipset that takes advantage of DDRSDRAM. Will this have the traditional clock doubling that was see with SDRAM on the current irongate chipset?
It's unfortunate that companies can hoodwink the mainstream market into buying these useless "upgrades" that won't improve their computer. Remember, Joe Sixpack probably thinks that this will speed up their downloads. Does this constitue false advertising? These people are being sold products that they don't need.
What we really need is a better portable storage medium -- floppy disks are obviously useless in an era of 10MB+ files, and the Zip drive just never caught on. Bigger hard drives and faster bandwidth would be nice, too :)
Now, DDRam is another matter entirely. This will be the memory standard for the next few years. We all upgrade at least once a year (It IS in your budget right?) So, this WILL affect you. Why Hemos mixed a story worthy of discussion with one worthless but still dominating the discussion is a mystery to me.
Obviously, what we need is a dual 1.6GHz machine. No need to compromise between threaded apps and floating-point perf. apps. :)
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I can't believe companies directly sell overcloacked machine. Won't this void the CPU warranty ? This is ridiculous. For normal use (non-gaming), today's machine are fast enough for everybody. Going beyhond specs is not recommended. The CPU might be cool enough, but you might get timing error in some circumstance. When this happens, you'll say Dammit, Windows crashed again... If the clock is too fast, gate delays will be non-negligeable.
Been a while since you've seen the movie. Power is measured in Watts, Not Hertz. However the deep freezer built into it may take some juice. I wonder how long it takes to get down to tempature so it can boot?
The truth shall set you free!
Wow are you stupid! They are aluding to our future agreement "that this product _was_ worth the wait." This implies that the product was either released (the wait is over), or the product used to be worth the wait (and now it isn't). Either way, the future tense does not refer to the product, but the anticipated response of annoyed consumers!
Quake 3 actually does have a setting for SMP machines: r_smp 1 (ONLY do this if you actually have 2 CPUs!). I'm not sure if this affects framerate, but it is an r_ cvar (rendering), so it just might. However, SMP could help on a game server (provided it's not already being used to run DivX, hehe.)
"Ancillary does not mean you get to rule the world." --U.S. Circuit Judge Harry Edwards, speaking to the FCC's lawyer
Once again, AMD is trying to pass 100 amps through a 12-gauge wire. Expect this system to be up in smoke in about 7 months. I plan to squeeze all 10 years out of my P3, thank you. (I also have a 386SX which is about to celebrate its ninth year in my house, and it's still working [in all its DOS 3.3 glory, hehe])
"Ancillary does not mean you get to rule the world." --U.S. Circuit Judge Harry Edwards, speaking to the FCC's lawyer
It's really too bad they can't think up some new design that will run that fast and yet much, much cooler. Who wants to buy one of those Kryotech cases just so they can upgrade their processor, anyway? Argh. Aciel aciel@speakeasy.net
some examples: emacs, gcc, povray, gimp, setiathome, netscape(try loading a 500 comment /. article in nested mode)
And what is wrong with "colour"?? "color" is just some lame-arsed attempt at data compression on the sly.
-- Soruk
He sets me up for an appointment on his 3200MHz unrefrigerated network appliance.
Soon we will be hearing about the exhaust ducts needed to take the condenser heated air out of the comfortable office so that everybody can have 1800MHz on the desktop.
My point is that 1.8GHz will be blown away soon enough. Why start with the refrigeration to go just a little faster. You think that a CPU is putting off some heat, wait till you see what a few condensers can do to your cubicle. I think anyone who buys into this will regret it after about 3 months.
If you like such bleeding-edge things and have money to burn with such a need for the fastest, then I guess this sort of hardware is for you.
The "choice" of OSes sort of sums up the need for such craziness:
Operating System: Choice of Windows 98 SE, Windows 2000 Professional, or Windows NT 4.0 Workstation.
The "desktop" model even includes WinME as a prospective OS. I have a Pentium 200 that can train neural networks with thousands of input and output nodes and over 30 layers, its plenty fast enough for me under Linux.
IMHO in less than a year there will be cheaper unrefrigerated boxes that will make this look slow. Why mess with such a cooling system to gain so little.
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I don't even know where to begin, but luckily everyone else has taken care of it. I'll just add that I know people running software on image files that can be ub to a GB, and some of the jobs take 8-10 hours on dual 600s.
BTW, this posting is a troll- To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.,
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for one thing the PIII-800 has been out longer than a month (which is when you got it). Secondly, the 1.6GHz is achieved through overclocking which leads to my last point: Moore's law (observation) refers to the number of transistors in a given die size will double in 18 months... which may or may not mean that the processor is twice as fast.
I guess I may not be as much of a geek as I wish I was. I'm still running an AMD-K6 233, and can't imagine what the heck you would do with that much computing power as a normal user. Then again, maybe I'm just out of date, and you do need that much power to surf the web and type letters.
just get a dual 850Mhz setup?
It won't help with your Q3A framerate, but it'll be just as good with those high end multi-threaded programs or servers.
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