The link does indeed lead to the ISO's or at least the 9 series release ISOs. Go to one of the mirrors and in i386/current/iso directory you'll find the install images as the original poster requested.:)
As for the 10 ISOs, try the link "includes some beta downloads" in the article which takes you to the site with both the torrent and direct 10 Beta ISO images.
Actually I don't think this analogy is that far off either. Reasonable people also disagree over how illegal drug use is. I mean the whole war on drugs thing isn't actually based on any fundamental law of the universe. Remember prohibition in the US was based on the same reasoning as the illegal use of other drugs.
There are conflicting studies that show the legalisation of anything from "soft" drugs to all drugs may or may not be better than the current situation. The same things appear to happen as happens with copyright issues... The studies that say file sharing decreases sales are all funded by those who make money from the current situation, whilst those that counter it are dismissed by these same people.
If they change the law to make any sharing of files illegal then you will end up in exactly the same situation as illegal drugs.
Viewed this way, a national I.D. card can be said not to provide greater national security but greater control for people with access to the information that a national I.D. card would provide. In terms of anything important, really important--a real, immediate threat like the 9/11 attack--a national I.D. card would be useless.
Actually I think it's worse than useless, it would be a liability. I believe Hong Kong (previous comment) is setting up a system that allows you to swipe your ID and pass through immigration without being eyeballed. So now they will be relying on a piece of technology to not be hackable. It may be hard, but with enough incentive these solutions may well let someone in and nobody would be any the wiser.
Now if this is better or worse than the current situation is another story entirely... It should make "normal" ID checks a little easier though if there is only 1 type of ID to check.
How many people do you know who have a supply of plastic to print on that feels like a real Aussie note? That and the clear windows make it pretty hard for the casual back yard counterfieter to produce these on there canon bubble jet.
Should a plumber who dies of Cancer be able to hand his kids the future benefit his work would have brought in? Why should a singer be any different? Maybe if both parties had life insurance... but then that's exactly what it's for.
I've never understood the argument that somehow artists children are more deserving of non-earned money than anyone else.
That does require an optional cable does it not? I'm no expert on the iPod (if I were to buy a player it would be a Rio Karma), but if one only had USB as an option; I wouldn't purchase something that had optional USB support.
Yes true, you have to get the cable to do it. Worst part is it doesn't seem to charge when only plugged into USB... I thought 2.0 supplied power as well, but I'd have to look that up. The cable was only AU$35 though, so it's not that big a deal really. I'll stick to Firewire on the cradle at home and USB 1.1 or 2.0 when I'm out and about on a random PC. Bonus part of the USB Cable is it's both USB and Firewire... so you take that 1 cable and plug into either as needed! Worked great on the iMac in the Lab.
It all comes down to which store do you want to shop at, and the iPod only gives you one choice.
Well I think we both agree it's a mute point... my music is all ripped from my CD's. Who wants to pay for something restricted to your player or current computer collection. I'd consider buying plain old mp3's or Vorbis or FLAC or... anything non-DRM'd but otherwise why would I want to restrict myself when I could borrow a copy off a friend or download from KazZa/Gnutella? WMA Scares me more than AAC though... do we really want more Microsoft "Choice"?
What if you don't have firewire? USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with USB 1.1 which everyone should have. Given the choice I would prefer firewire myself, but if I were interested in syncing with multiple machines USB would be the way to go.
The iPod (new ones) support USB 2.0 anyway. I personally run Firewire on my home machine, but work only has built in USB 2.0 ports, so get the cable and it works a treat!
Not if you want to buy songs from any of the other music services besides iTunes. They all use WMA. So with the iRiver, I get a choice of music stores.
What buy DRM tainted music files??? on slashdot? You aren't serious are you? Actually, I don't use iTunes Store (Being in Australia and all) and never will. The ability to play either WMA or Apples own fluff is pretty mute. MP3's are fine for the commute on the train.
So, you can harp on features you think our dumb but then say a feature a lot of other people think is dumb is great? I have a PDA, so this is an unimportant feature. Why do I need another set of contacts (address book, PDA, phone). I'd much rather have a radio.
I agree with you on this one I must say. Sometimes it would be nice to flick on the radio and listen to something unexpected. The contact stuff is rather useless if you ask me.
Why is it still so trivially easy to forge a mail's header? I mean seriously we could more easily filter spam if you just couldn't forge the header. I realise that for multiple domains and the likes it's great for sendmail to allow you to define what the "From:" address is, but surely it could look up what names are valid for it's address range and only allow those. This wouldn't full stop the forging as you would somehow have to deal with the userid, but I don't see even that being impossible to deal with, you already have to supply a user/pass for pop so why not use the same for SMTP too?
Once you've got real from addresses you can (a) trace and (b) block these things much easier than you can when they can just chuck a random hormail or any other ISP for that matter address into the header. Is this feasable with SMTP? Why not?
Once you have a new version of the SMTP servers you simply block mail from non-new SMTP servers, forcing either everyone to upgrade (far easier than trying to get a working pay-to-send system installed) or blocked until they do. Perhaps it's a new version of SMTP itself which includes a handshake between servers that tell it what version and even what addresses are valid. Sure someone can install a new SMTP server and allow anyone to spam through it, but as the header can't be forged ISP's/users simply block them and be done with it. No worrying about changing email characteristics, if you allow spam people can just block you for good.
Would this even work? What have I missed, it's not like it's a breakthrough idea or anything... explain to me the flaws please? Normal companies can operate like this I'm sure, what about ISP's though?
Okay, it depends on your carrier and plan here, for instance I pay about 1.5c a second peak time with no minimum time (per second billing) on Vodafone in Australia. Less for plans that cost/include more. That's over and above the $44 credit per month that is included in my plan. An SMS costs 23c and I get 44 of them free each month too, plus any excess is covered in the $44 credit, so unless I go overboard on the phone I pay $44/month for all the SMS and calls I want. As an added bonus on my plan, calls to land lines off-peak are free for the first 400 hours a month!
On a $120 plan (that's about US$60 without being fancy) you'd get a shit load of free calls (lets say $120 worth) and the per-second cost would be less both on and off peak anyway.
No my plan isn't the be-all and end-all of plans, but it suits my usage. So no I don't think the US is overly cheaper than Australia, it does depend on what you want and where you get your phone from.
Now my friend in Japan sends me photos and emails from her phone because she hasn't got a computer there and it's far easier to just use her phone for that.
Squint? Either get glasses or get a better phone! It's not that hard to read most phones really.
What if you remember something you want to tell someone at 2am, I'm not going to call them and wake them jsut to say "Don't forget the CD in the morning" when I can just SMS it they'll get it when they feel like. Sure I could call them in the morning (as long as I remember then, or write it down to remind me) but then I can also jsut SMS it and be done. SMS does not demand instant attention like a phone (God I hate stopping things just to answer the phone) and it also doesn't require instant responses if you want to think about something.
You might have virtually free calls where you are, but here it's pretty much the same to call someone for 30secodns as it is to just SMS them. Call when you want a longer chat sure, but just SMS them if you want something trivial.
As for the whole hunt and peck entry, I've got a pretty small Nokia (8850) but with predictive text and nimble fingers I have no problems typing out a 120 character message in 30 seconds. If you have fat fingers or lower dexterity then try a different phone, or get one of those keyboards that Ericssons have or just don't use SMS.
On a side note I've not specifically noticed any missing messages (although that could be like the Australian porn legislation, how would I know if I'm missing something?) although I do get the occasional "Messaged Undelivered" back when it's either busy or I'm crossing the bridge on the train. That's another point, you can SMS on a train and not be one of those arseholes who yell into the phone at peak hour! If I get a call on the train then I hang it up, nothing can be so critical that they can't wait for 10 minutes or leave me a voice mail so that I can get back to them later.
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This actually makes sense, since many of them began gaming in the 70's.
My god! They started playing in the 70's and are still going strong? Makes that Korean chap seem a tad weak that he can't even handle a full week of gaming doesn't it.
Well... apart from the humour in this post, the point that email leaks would be prevented is actually rather a good idea.
Of course just leaking the email using F**kedCompany's public key would mean it's harder to work out what you leaked, it's not going to stop leaks. It would stop the accidental "I sent this email out to the wrong person" type thing having as much of a consequence. Unless you auto-selected the public keys for recipients. In fact I can't see it ever really helping on a leaked email UNLESS someone is paying attention to what they are doing. And that would be a very small number of leaks I would guess.
If you look at this page http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html and view source it might help a little, although if it was an automatic tool that did this it's pretty good. Perhaps it looked for the "This page last updated:" bit and found the "The Crown of King George II" near it and that was good enough. Or maybe it was the first "name" mentioned on the page (a dictionary of common names would certainly include George) or perhaps it finds all names in this manner.
The more I think about it, the more likely it just grabbed the html, parsed it for matches with a dictionary, that gave it the King George II part. It also parsed it for addresses, probably finding "New York NY 10025-7799" and stripping the address sections before it as well. Not rocket science, but then again pretty good really. This works in a manner similar to all those screen scraping firms around I guess. I wouldn't be surprised if "Manning Publications Co" got a similar postcard, or if one to "Georg Fischer" was created to (although how common is Georg without the e?) I doubt "Oren Yehezkely" got one though.
Not exactly sure what version is included in the Solaris 9 "package" but when it was still all called iPlanet Application server there were 3 (well 4 kinda) different levels.
Standard, Enterprise,Enterprise Pro, and a Testing & Staging licence. Basically Standard only allowed a single KJS (Java Server), The enterprise allowed multiple KJS and clustering. The Pro was Enterprise plus some added goodness like workflow and universal adapter stub.
I would guess the bundled version is pretty much the standard version of iPlanet Application Server. Perfectly fine for testing, maintenance and even development purposes, but not really meant for large scale deployment.
I think it was more the other way around, what happens if you use some GPL code that someone else has a patent on that the developer (a) didn't know about or (b) didn't care about?
This is the IP issue they are concerned about, being sued by Amazon because they one-clicked or something equally silly like that.
Can you show me a place in Afghanistan that has a building above the level of a mud hut? Seems that anything bigger than an earthen hovel was bombed to rubble long ago.
Well actually, I believe in Kabul itself there remains standing a number of non-earthen hovel's including the Hotel most International Journalistic types were made to stay at. Where these targeted by the US?
Of more interrest though is the Blue Mosque in that Northern city up the top... Mazar-e Sharif I think, but the Mosque itself looked pretty darn spectacular even if it is a few centuries old. I hope that's still standing, it managed to remain intact since before even the British decided that destroying things in Afganistan was a good thing [tm].
Internet censorship: Um.. what internet censorship? You mean I have to install Cyber patrol or something and use it now? Has anyone got an example of something that someone in the US can get too that I can't? Is my ISP filtering this traffic, even if I don't use their proxy server?
banning porn [hosted down under]: I thought that was only X+ rated stuff, same as the sale of magazines and videos of that level are banned. Isn't R rated porn still able to be hosted here? Doesn't stop you getting to it if you want to anyway...
Forcing gambling overseas: Actually, you can't gamble overseas, or more to the point, you can but overseas companies can not legally charge your credit card when you lose. Supposedly you can still win though, seems like a good deal to me! As for gambling in Australia, I don't know if any "Australian" Casino's have applied to offer their services online in Australia, but didn't the TAB get a licence to do so???
Anyone know any different? There may be a lot of laws passed here, but I've not noticed any changes personally. Maybe I don't surf enough porn sites, or want to give my money away to rich mafia types...
How about uniVerse and/or Unidata... both of which I *think* are owned by IBM now that Informix has been purchased. These supply the PICK Environment under several OS's, including AIX, Solaris and SCO. I've even had it working on Linux without any problems.
As for being obsolete, it's still very much the bread and butter of many a small FI and even some not so small ones. There is work to be had as a PICK Basic programmer if you want it (Our company still develops a retail banking system in PICK, just put a workflow front-end to it to get some pretty GUI or WEB interfaces!) It's still very much an active language, just as COBOL is! God now I have to interface our PICK based messages to a COBOL based system on AS/400! Thank god for MQSeries Integrator!
Oh and on a side note... the PICK database access is still pretty darn quick, even if it's not 5th normal form! Relational databases aren't always the best fit for every job. The variable length "fields" (Including sub values) mean storing an address isn't a Database design issue with wasted space for those Just-In-Case long address lines.
Unless you have a centralised Development server, and a centralised Test server, and a centralised Maintenance server and...
Multiple Centralised Servers. You don't want a change in Development filtering out to other environments until such time as they go into testing or release.
As for VMWare, it seems to work fine on NT as well, we run 3 of our 5 centralised environments on the one box, saves on RAID controllers and Gbit ports too.
It may be on the list, but is it usable? We have an agreement with IBM, they are meant to support our NT, IIS, MSSQL server and MQSeries aspects, whilst Sun supports the Sun bits, and another company supports the workflow environment that is spread over all of that like peanut butter. Basically, first call we had that involved IIS got sent back with "We are no longer able to officially support Microsoft kit" type reply. Something to do with not being the officially supported support organisation or something. In Australia I believe it's Compaq (amongst others) that are able to officially support MS products (Outside of MS itself that is.)
So where did that leave us? Up the creek I can tell you. One call and a credit card later we were talking with Microsoft directly and playing the good old game of "Blame someone else." It is hard to get 1 company to support everything you run, especialy when you don't want to be a 100% Microsoft (or IBM) shop... IBM are close, but without MS support, even they are next to useless... I wish they just went for Sun kit for the web servers and workflow environment... Still I like MQSeries and we'd have to have that included in the picture... but at least that would only be 3 companies to play pass the buck with and not 4.
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The link does indeed lead to the ISO's or at least the 9 series release ISOs. Go to one of the mirrors and in i386/current/iso directory you'll find the install images as the original poster requested. :)
As for the 10 ISOs, try the link "includes some beta downloads" in the article which takes you to the site with both the torrent and direct 10 Beta ISO images.
Was that what you were after?
There are conflicting studies that show the legalisation of anything from "soft" drugs to all drugs may or may not be better than the current situation. The same things appear to happen as happens with copyright issues... The studies that say file sharing decreases sales are all funded by those who make money from the current situation, whilst those that counter it are dismissed by these same people.
If they change the law to make any sharing of files illegal then you will end up in exactly the same situation as illegal drugs.
Viewed this way, a national I.D. card can be said not to provide greater national security but greater control for people with access to the information that a national I.D. card would provide. In terms of anything important, really important--a real, immediate threat like the 9/11 attack--a national I.D. card would be useless.
Actually I think it's worse than useless, it would be a liability. I believe Hong Kong (previous comment) is setting up a system that allows you to swipe your ID and pass through immigration without being eyeballed. So now they will be relying on a piece of technology to not be hackable. It may be hard, but with enough incentive these solutions may well let someone in and nobody would be any the wiser.
Now if this is better or worse than the current situation is another story entirely... It should make "normal" ID checks a little easier though if there is only 1 type of ID to check.
How many people do you know who have a supply of plastic to print on that feels like a real Aussie note? That and the clear windows make it pretty hard for the casual back yard counterfieter to produce these on there canon bubble jet.
okay so it's "over a million tons for every man, woman, and child on Earth!" But what's that in terms we can all understand?
How many VW's is that, or library on Congresses?
Should a plumber who dies of Cancer be able to hand his kids the future benefit his work would have brought in? Why should a singer be any different? Maybe if both parties had life insurance... but then that's exactly what it's for.
I've never understood the argument that somehow artists children are more deserving of non-earned money than anyone else.
That does require an optional cable does it not? I'm no expert on the iPod (if I were to buy a player it would be a Rio Karma), but if one only had USB as an option; I wouldn't purchase something that had optional USB support.
Yes true, you have to get the cable to do it. Worst part is it doesn't seem to charge when only plugged into USB... I thought 2.0 supplied power as well, but I'd have to look that up. The cable was only AU$35 though, so it's not that big a deal really. I'll stick to Firewire on the cradle at home and USB 1.1 or 2.0 when I'm out and about on a random PC. Bonus part of the USB Cable is it's both USB and Firewire... so you take that 1 cable and plug into either as needed! Worked great on the iMac in the Lab.
It all comes down to which store do you want to shop at, and the iPod only gives you one choice.
Well I think we both agree it's a mute point... my music is all ripped from my CD's. Who wants to pay for something restricted to your player or current computer collection. I'd consider buying plain old mp3's or Vorbis or FLAC or... anything non-DRM'd but otherwise why would I want to restrict myself when I could borrow a copy off a friend or download from KazZa/Gnutella? WMA Scares me more than AAC though... do we really want more Microsoft "Choice"?
What if you don't have firewire? USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with USB 1.1 which everyone should have. Given the choice I would prefer firewire myself, but if I were interested in syncing with multiple machines USB would be the way to go.
The iPod (new ones) support USB 2.0 anyway. I personally run Firewire on my home machine, but work only has built in USB 2.0 ports, so get the cable and it works a treat!
Not if you want to buy songs from any of the other music services besides iTunes. They all use WMA. So with the iRiver, I get a choice of music stores.
What buy DRM tainted music files??? on slashdot? You aren't serious are you? Actually, I don't use iTunes Store (Being in Australia and all) and never will. The ability to play either WMA or Apples own fluff is pretty mute. MP3's are fine for the commute on the train.
So, you can harp on features you think our dumb but then say a feature a lot of other people think is dumb is great? I have a PDA, so this is an unimportant feature. Why do I need another set of contacts (address book, PDA, phone). I'd much rather have a radio.
I agree with you on this one I must say. Sometimes it would be nice to flick on the radio and listen to something unexpected. The contact stuff is rather useless if you ask me.
I thought chucking the following in your host file does the trick... Beats manually editing a link if you ask me.
199.239.136.212 www.nytimes.com
199.239.136.212 nytimes.com
Doesn't help you though if you are behind a proxy and the proxy does all the name resolution...
Doesn't ebay already have a patent on this?
I wonder if buying others cow shit is patented yet...
Once you've got real from addresses you can (a) trace and (b) block these things much easier than you can when they can just chuck a random hormail or any other ISP for that matter address into the header. Is this feasable with SMTP? Why not?
Once you have a new version of the SMTP servers you simply block mail from non-new SMTP servers, forcing either everyone to upgrade (far easier than trying to get a working pay-to-send system installed) or blocked until they do. Perhaps it's a new version of SMTP itself which includes a handshake between servers that tell it what version and even what addresses are valid. Sure someone can install a new SMTP server and allow anyone to spam through it, but as the header can't be forged ISP's/users simply block them and be done with it. No worrying about changing email characteristics, if you allow spam people can just block you for good.
Would this even work? What have I missed, it's not like it's a breakthrough idea or anything... explain to me the flaws please? Normal companies can operate like this I'm sure, what about ISP's though?
On a $120 plan (that's about US$60 without being fancy) you'd get a shit load of free calls (lets say $120 worth) and the per-second cost would be less both on and off peak anyway.
No my plan isn't the be-all and end-all of plans, but it suits my usage. So no I don't think the US is overly cheaper than Australia, it does depend on what you want and where you get your phone from.
Now my friend in Japan sends me photos and emails from her phone because she hasn't got a computer there and it's far easier to just use her phone for that.
What if you remember something you want to tell someone at 2am, I'm not going to call them and wake them jsut to say "Don't forget the CD in the morning" when I can just SMS it they'll get it when they feel like. Sure I could call them in the morning (as long as I remember then, or write it down to remind me) but then I can also jsut SMS it and be done. SMS does not demand instant attention like a phone (God I hate stopping things just to answer the phone) and it also doesn't require instant responses if you want to think about something.
You might have virtually free calls where you are, but here it's pretty much the same to call someone for 30secodns as it is to just SMS them. Call when you want a longer chat sure, but just SMS them if you want something trivial.
As for the whole hunt and peck entry, I've got a pretty small Nokia (8850) but with predictive text and nimble fingers I have no problems typing out a 120 character message in 30 seconds. If you have fat fingers or lower dexterity then try a different phone, or get one of those keyboards that Ericssons have or just don't use SMS.
On a side note I've not specifically noticed any missing messages (although that could be like the Australian porn legislation, how would I know if I'm missing something?) although I do get the occasional "Messaged Undelivered" back when it's either busy or I'm crossing the bridge on the train. That's another point, you can SMS on a train and not be one of those arseholes who yell into the phone at peak hour! If I get a call on the train then I hang it up, nothing can be so critical that they can't wait for 10 minutes or leave me a voice mail so that I can get back to them later.
My god! They started playing in the 70's and are still going strong? Makes that Korean chap seem a tad weak that he can't even handle a full week of gaming doesn't it.
Well... apart from the humour in this post, the point that email leaks would be prevented is actually rather a good idea.
Of course just leaking the email using F**kedCompany's public key would mean it's harder to work out what you leaked, it's not going to stop leaks. It would stop the accidental "I sent this email out to the wrong person" type thing having as much of a consequence. Unless you auto-selected the public keys for recipients. In fact I can't see it ever really helping on a leaked email UNLESS someone is paying attention to what they are doing. And that would be a very small number of leaks I would guess.
Anyway... was worth a chuckle.
I don't know, I think the redhead who ended up being killed was pretty darn hot.
What you mean it wasn't meant to be a bit of fluff and you were meant to keep the brain switched on whilst watching?
The more I think about it, the more likely it just grabbed the html, parsed it for matches with a dictionary, that gave it the King George II part. It also parsed it for addresses, probably finding "New York NY 10025-7799" and stripping the address sections before it as well. Not rocket science, but then again pretty good really. This works in a manner similar to all those screen scraping firms around I guess. I wouldn't be surprised if "Manning Publications Co" got a similar postcard, or if one to "Georg Fischer" was created to (although how common is Georg without the e?) I doubt "Oren Yehezkely" got one though.
Not exactly sure what version is included in the Solaris 9 "package" but when it was still all called iPlanet Application server there were 3 (well 4 kinda) different levels.
Standard, Enterprise,Enterprise Pro, and a Testing & Staging licence. Basically Standard only allowed a single KJS (Java Server), The enterprise allowed multiple KJS and clustering. The Pro was Enterprise plus some added goodness like workflow and universal adapter stub.
I would guess the bundled version is pretty much the standard version of iPlanet Application Server. Perfectly fine for testing, maintenance and even development purposes, but not really meant for large scale deployment.
Just my thoughts anyway.
This is the IP issue they are concerned about, being sued by Amazon because they one-clicked or something equally silly like that.
Well actually, I believe in Kabul itself there remains standing a number of non-earthen hovel's including the Hotel most International Journalistic types were made to stay at. Where these targeted by the US?
Of more interrest though is the Blue Mosque in that Northern city up the top... Mazar-e Sharif I think, but the Mosque itself looked pretty darn spectacular even if it is a few centuries old. I hope that's still standing, it managed to remain intact since before even the British decided that destroying things in Afganistan was a good thing [tm].
Internet censorship: Um.. what internet censorship? You mean I have to install Cyber patrol or something and use it now? Has anyone got an example of something that someone in the US can get too that I can't? Is my ISP filtering this traffic, even if I don't use their proxy server?
banning porn [hosted down under]: I thought that was only X+ rated stuff, same as the sale of magazines and videos of that level are banned. Isn't R rated porn still able to be hosted here? Doesn't stop you getting to it if you want to anyway...
Forcing gambling overseas: Actually, you can't gamble overseas, or more to the point, you can but overseas companies can not legally charge your credit card when you lose. Supposedly you can still win though, seems like a good deal to me! As for gambling in Australia, I don't know if any "Australian" Casino's have applied to offer their services online in Australia, but didn't the TAB get a licence to do so???
Anyone know any different? There may be a lot of laws passed here, but I've not noticed any changes personally. Maybe I don't surf enough porn sites, or want to give my money away to rich mafia types...
As for being obsolete, it's still very much the bread and butter of many a small FI and even some not so small ones. There is work to be had as a PICK Basic programmer if you want it (Our company still develops a retail banking system in PICK, just put a workflow front-end to it to get some pretty GUI or WEB interfaces!) It's still very much an active language, just as COBOL is! God now I have to interface our PICK based messages to a COBOL based system on AS/400! Thank god for MQSeries Integrator!
Oh and on a side note... the PICK database access is still pretty darn quick, even if it's not 5th normal form! Relational databases aren't always the best fit for every job. The variable length "fields" (Including sub values) mean storing an address isn't a Database design issue with wasted space for those Just-In-Case long address lines.
PDR-W839 3 CD plus CDR-RW player/recorder [www.pioneerelectronics.com]
PDR-609 Single CD/CDR-RW Player Recorder [www.pioneerelectronics.com]
So is Pioneer going to be done for circumvention or does it only apply to individuals?
Unless you have a centralised Development server, and a centralised Test server, and a centralised Maintenance server and...
Multiple Centralised Servers. You don't want a change in Development filtering out to other environments until such time as they go into testing or release.
As for VMWare, it seems to work fine on NT as well, we run 3 of our 5 centralised environments on the one box, saves on RAID controllers and Gbit ports too.
So where did that leave us? Up the creek I can tell you. One call and a credit card later we were talking with Microsoft directly and playing the good old game of "Blame someone else." It is hard to get 1 company to support everything you run, especialy when you don't want to be a 100% Microsoft (or IBM) shop... IBM are close, but without MS support, even they are next to useless... I wish they just went for Sun kit for the web servers and workflow environment... Still I like MQSeries and we'd have to have that included in the picture... but at least that would only be 3 companies to play pass the buck with and not 4.