I'm predicting that much of M$'s future income will stem from refferal fees and charges for being party to secure online transactions: not the retail cost of the OS. M$'s Passport already got the industry talking. Also deals like the digital photo printing services and online music: all generate referral fees. Even if it's less than 1c per deal, it's worth millions of $'s. This is a situation that AOL helped to create by supporting IE all these years. In fact, in the near future, it'll make business sense to give away copies of windows and the like. AOL can get part of this growing cake of referral fees by getting in in the OS market. AOL have the customers, the size and the infrastructure to make this work.
yea... that's essentially why we have governments, both local government and the national. funny thing is, here on slashdot, ti seems like the government is the enemy... buy truth be told, we created the govenment. they are arround because of this lighthouse problem: what's everyone's is noones, and what's noone's is everyones. i mean, everyone would like roads, parks, libraries, schools and the like, but very few are willing to pay for these things. So, we all pay taxes and this money buys the necessities like lighthouses.
I agree that this is not a good idea. The Redhat proposal makes much more sense. I see on CNN that even Jobs has come out against this idea, claiming it alows M$ to strongarm into their last stronghold: education. But the more i think about it, the less it seems to matter.
I've realized that the students of these schools aren't the ones that'll have much cash to spend on pc's. So, their purchacing power in the future isn't expected to be much. A PC for most them will be a luxury. So, while it's true that it halps m$ make inroads into education, it don't really matter. Now, if they were to give this stuff to ALL schools, it's antother matter.
Still, being a manapoly, and having control of the price of the camadity don't make it look good. I mean, it's not gonna cost them much to give away $500m of software (unless they are forced to pay for some kind of taxes) Then again, this danation could be a great tax writeoff. So, it's not costing them much but they get to write off $500m as a danation... not too shabby.
i know that there are a few asus delux cards out there that offer true stereo vision with a pair of special glasses. How come this hasn't become mainstream ?
This technology truely takes the monitor tot he next dimention.
I mean, to support it, we need a screen with a good refresh rate and a pair of lcd glasses. both can be cheaply obtained.
I guess if a markeh leader like nvidia makes it a standard feature, we'll see it more often.
i tried this... (not takin off the heatsink, but setting the cut off teperature). Unfortunately, the machine never booted. i guess, the proc needs to exceed the min temperature while booting but stabilizes in normal use. so, i won't recomend tinkering with the mobo temperature cut off thing
I got me a nice red truck last year.
It's cool and i paid ZAR400 that's about $50. so, it's low end but it's really cool.
it turns by spinnig the wheels in opposte directions... much like how a tank turns. Cool cos i can do a 360 degree tursn on the spot.
However, because it's low end here, i can't change the frequency and found that i can't race my buddies (theirs too are low end ones) as there's interference and the cars get confused.
I still like mine alot. However, i don't think i usod mine in the last 3 months or so.... i'm too lazy to recharge the batteries... besides... car games on the pc are more exciting. (especialy since i don't have a dog to chase about.)
hey... i got a dreamcast recently... and it's cheaper than the duron.
lemme see... it comes with a processor, is 3d capable, and a 56k modem and it's just $79 (i paid $99:( )
thing is... most of you want a hotter (ahem... better) processor so that you can play games... but i figure... playing games on a pc is not all that smart.
hear me out first... it cost's more to set up a pc... and just when you get the drivers loaded properly, there's a faster chip on the market... and within a year, the new games that are released are gonna run rater slow on your pc. now, consoles are more resestant to this sort of phenomenon.
well... that's just my $79!
BC
imagine the internet... but wireless.
each machine in the system can act as a node, passing on info for others in a way that's secure for the sender and intended recipient. this'll only work well if there are many in the area with this technology. imagine being in an area that's not directly servised by a cellular service provider, but getting through because there are a string of users in the area who'll pass on the signal to a service provider. this will help lead to such a situation.
it may have cost me a year or two on campus... but, hey, whose counting.
i thaught that i had things covered and was usually one of the fraggers (as opposed to the fragged). my skillz that i brought over from doom really helped.
a definite bonus of the game was that on the campus network where none of the machines had hard drives, most of us played off the same copy in the network drive (usually a hacked drive cos we were only allowed a meg or so for space.)
well... things were going well untill some guys started using the mouse. they were so much faster than me. my doom & heretic skills only prepared me for playnig with the keyboard. well... i didn't take too well to the mouse... and reduced my quake time. it was actually a blessing in disguise as i started to pass:). i use the mouse now... i learned to use it on aliens vs preditor... i loved the feel of that game. so, i aint too bad at Q3... but i don't even try to play the pc on hardcore. thanks to the fact that the newer games require 3d card, quake is still big on campus cos the macines there don't have such luxuries. Here's to doom 3... i hear that the guys for id'll be releasing it soon... hope it'll work on a K62-400:)
i'm in south africa. here in johannesburg, we got a partial eclipse... not that grand really...
it was a nice an glorious sunny winter day and things began to dim a bit as the sun was "not as bright as usual". it lasted for a at least an hour.
however it was work as usual... occasianally, we went to the sunny end of the office to see how things are going. but, it was work as usual. I can't wait till the end of next year, i here the north end of our country will have a total eclipse. I'll be sure to be arround:)
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well, all this stuff on speeding and safety got me thinking of a good way to root out bad drivers.
and, the moderation system here on/. cames to mind. imagine, at any time, one in 50 cars has the right to judge the safety of cars in it's vacitity. think someone's a bit wreckless ? well if it's your turn, turn the pointer to point to the offending car and press the red button. Like them ? press the green one..... much like the moderation system here. well, are semi-naked babes gonna see more green light ? only time will tell... but it's something worth exploring. cops can tell when a car's got too many reds... pull it over and chat with the driver. nice thing is, the moderators can be anyone, so one needs to be weary as long as there are other cars on the road. a more advanced version will allow even pedestrians to award points to cars.
they are called CD-R's:)
actually nah... i don't even have a cd writer.
hell, i don't have a home pc... but i can't believe these stats, cos there are many guys i know that won't buy an original cd unless noone else (that they know) has it.
(same with office XP (: )
my slashdot is set to text only.
when i first used the internet, it was on netscape. i used to hate getting on pages with pictures as they always took too long to load.
nowdays, it's not just pictures... but flash.
how i long for the good old days....
then again... this is what the internet's about... otherwise, we'd all be using gopher.
i'm reading at a threshhold of 5 this time as there are so many responses: some saying that ms is not so shit, others saying that it is.
it's not about wether it's shit. it's about if they played fair.
remember the masterpiece that was called os/2 ?
remember that ms initially wanted to create its OWN internet. that failed so they changed their minds.
one that forced pc makers and isps to include ie on thier machines and install packages instead of netscape. that's how netscape fell from "king of the hill" to "what's that 'N' in the corner?"
one who's own version of java was intentionally incompatible with that of sun's.
we can't have ms as one company as the guys who make the applications have access to the os source code. that is a real advantage to their application developers. their own applications can be much more powerful as a result. also, the cost of development is significantly reduced as they have access to this source code. how can anyone else compete and make a living ?
just my 2 cents.
it has something to do with the drivers becoming too lazy to adapt the speed to the driving environment. they will instead tend to drive at the max speed that the system will allow. this situation is as dangerous as a car that is not limited whose speeding driver adapts to the driving situation.
as the cost of storing info drops, this can only get worse.
it may even be possible to keep a list of the web pages that every individual visits. imagine... in 2003 you're refused a job cos in 1999, you clicked on pages that were inappropriate. this is possible....
yup... microsoft don't want you cos you clicked on slashdot.org about 200 times.
the silly-ron's been superceded by the duron in terms of price and performance.
thanks to the sis730, the duron'll have affordible motherboards soon.
also, the celeron's due for a faster bus soon...
how will the samuel stand next to the 100mhz fsb celly ?
!duh?
light travels faster than sound.
so if you saw it yesterday, and you heard it today, it's about 45000km from mhere you are.
Hey that's not too far away....
don't you all love living in the free world ?
i mean... if there was no competition, there may be something like 1078 comptuters worldwide, all belonging to governments and big businesses.
had it not been for b\competition, most of the 1078 computers may have been using rambus.
i KNOW that open source is the future. (ok, given what i know, i have a really strong feeling that it is.)
However, there's nothing forcing coders to contribute to open source efforts.
I feel that it's a good idea to force those learning the trade (schoolkids and cs undergrads) to attempt projects that will contribute to the pool of code that we have. Instead of doing the same old algorythm every year (that allows educators to easily grade the code, and learners to copy previous attempts) do something new. It'll be great training and will contribute to the betterment of society as a whole. It'll also help programmers learn how (not) to write code that can be used by others for tweaking. Because in time, instead of writing code from the ground up, most programmers will be modifying existing "works"
Students can demo their code or tweaks to code to potential employers to make themselves more marketable.
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Were Anderson the auditors ? :) *(oops)*
I'm predicting that much of M$'s future income will stem from refferal fees and charges for being party to secure online transactions: not the retail cost of the OS. M$'s Passport already got the industry talking. Also deals like the digital photo printing services and online music: all generate referral fees. Even if it's less than 1c per deal, it's worth millions of $'s. This is a situation that AOL helped to create by supporting IE all these years. In fact, in the near future, it'll make business sense to give away copies of windows and the like. AOL can get part of this growing cake of referral fees by getting in in the OS market. AOL have the customers, the size and the infrastructure to make this work.
They're elated 'cos "only 20 of the bugs were found."
yea ... that's essentially why we have governments, both local government and the national. funny thing is, here on slashdot, ti seems like the government is the enemy ... buy truth be told, we created the govenment. they are arround because of this lighthouse problem: what's everyone's is noones, and what's noone's is everyones. i mean, everyone would like roads, parks, libraries, schools and the like, but very few are willing to pay for these things. So, we all pay taxes and this money buys the necessities like lighthouses.
I agree that this is not a good idea. The Redhat proposal makes much more sense. I see on CNN that even Jobs has come out against this idea, claiming it alows M$ to strongarm into their last stronghold: education. But the more i think about it, the less it seems to matter. ... not too shabby.
I've realized that the students of these schools aren't the ones that'll have much cash to spend on pc's. So, their purchacing power in the future isn't expected to be much. A PC for most them will be a luxury. So, while it's true that it halps m$ make inroads into education, it don't really matter. Now, if they were to give this stuff to ALL schools, it's antother matter.
Still, being a manapoly, and having control of the price of the camadity don't make it look good. I mean, it's not gonna cost them much to give away $500m of software (unless they are forced to pay for some kind of taxes) Then again, this danation could be a great tax writeoff. So, it's not costing them much but they get to write off $500m as a danation
i know that there are a few asus delux cards out there that offer true stereo vision with a pair of special glasses. How come this hasn't become mainstream ?
This technology truely takes the monitor tot he next dimention.
I mean, to support it, we need a screen with a good refresh rate and a pair of lcd glasses. both can be cheaply obtained.
I guess if a markeh leader like nvidia makes it a standard feature, we'll see it more often.
i hear he'll be at the Kaddahar mosque at lunchitime this Friday. :)
Thanks W, that was the easiest $25m I've made yet
i tried this ... (not takin off the heatsink, but setting the cut off teperature). Unfortunately, the machine never booted. i guess, the proc needs to exceed the min temperature while booting but stabilizes in normal use. so, i won't recomend tinkering with the mobo temperature cut off thing
i'm not too sure if you count throwing apples at the beast as voilent ... but it's a game in which you can't die!
I got me a nice red truck last year. ... much like how a tank turns. Cool cos i can do a 360 degree tursn on the spot.
.... i'm too lazy to recharge the batteries ... besides ... car games on the pc are more exciting. (especialy since i don't have a dog to chase about.)
It's cool and i paid ZAR400 that's about $50. so, it's low end but it's really cool.
it turns by spinnig the wheels in opposte directions
However, because it's low end here, i can't change the frequency and found that i can't race my buddies (theirs too are low end ones) as there's interference and the cars get confused.
I still like mine alot. However, i don't think i usod mine in the last 3 months or so
hey ... i got a dreamcast recently ... and it's cheaper than the duron.
... it comes with a processor, is 3d capable, and a 56k modem and it's just $79 (i paid $99 :( )
... most of you want a hotter (ahem ... better) processor so that you can play games ... but i figure ... playing games on a pc is not all that smart.
... it cost's more to set up a pc ... and just when you get the drivers loaded properly, there's a faster chip on the market ... and within a year, the new games that are released are gonna run rater slow on your pc. now, consoles are more resestant to this sort of phenomenon.
... that's just my $79!
lemme see
thing is
hear me out first
well
BC
imagine the internet ... but wireless.
each machine in the system can act as a node, passing on info for others in a way that's secure for the sender and intended recipient. this'll only work well if there are many in the area with this technology. imagine being in an area that's not directly servised by a cellular service provider, but getting through because there are a string of users in the area who'll pass on the signal to a service provider. this will help lead to such a situation.
it may have cost me a year or two on campus ... but, hey, whose counting.
i thaught that i had things covered and was usually one of the fraggers (as opposed to the fragged). my skillz that i brought over from doom really helped.
a definite bonus of the game was that on the campus network where none of the machines had hard drives, most of us played off the same copy in the network drive (usually a hacked drive cos we were only allowed a meg or so for space.)
well ... things were going well untill some guys started using the mouse. they were so much faster than me. my doom & heretic skills only prepared me for playnig with the keyboard. well ... i didn't take too well to the mouse ... and reduced my quake time. it was actually a blessing in disguise as i started to pass :). i use the mouse now ... i learned to use it on aliens vs preditor ... i loved the feel of that game. so, i aint too bad at Q3 ... but i don't even try to play the pc on hardcore. thanks to the fact that the newer games require 3d card, quake is still big on campus cos the macines there don't have such luxuries. Here's to doom 3 ... i hear that the guys for id'll be releasing it soon ... hope it'll work on a K62-400 :)
i'm in south africa. here in johannesburg, we got a partial eclipse ... not that grand really ...
it was a nice an glorious sunny winter day and things began to dim a bit as the sun was "not as bright as usual". it lasted for a at least an hour.
however it was work as usual ... occasianally, we went to the sunny end of the office to see how things are going. but, it was work as usual. I can't wait till the end of next year, i here the north end of our country will have a total eclipse. I'll be sure to be arround :)
!include cool_sig.htm
well, all this stuff on speeding and safety got me thinking of a good way to root out bad drivers. and, the moderation system here on /. cames to mind. imagine, at any time, one in 50 cars has the right to judge the safety of cars in it's vacitity. think someone's a bit wreckless ? well if it's your turn, turn the pointer to point to the offending car and press the red button. Like them ? press the green one. .... much like the moderation system here. well, are semi-naked babes gonna see more green light ? only time will tell ... but it's something worth exploring. cops can tell when a car's got too many reds ... pull it over and chat with the driver. nice thing is, the moderators can be anyone, so one needs to be weary as long as there are other cars on the road. a more advanced version will allow even pedestrians to award points to cars.
they are called CD-R's :)
actually nah ... i don't even have a cd writer.
hell, i don't have a home pc ... but i can't believe these stats, cos there are many guys i know that won't buy an original cd unless noone else (that they know) has it.
(same with office XP (: )
my slashdot is set to text only. when i first used the internet, it was on netscape. i used to hate getting on pages with pictures as they always took too long to load. nowdays, it's not just pictures ... but flash.
how i long for the good old days....
then again ... this is what the internet's about ... otherwise, we'd all be using gopher.
i'm reading at a threshhold of 5 this time as there are so many responses: some saying that ms is not so shit, others saying that it is. it's not about wether it's shit. it's about if they played fair. remember the masterpiece that was called os/2 ? remember that ms initially wanted to create its OWN internet. that failed so they changed their minds. one that forced pc makers and isps to include ie on thier machines and install packages instead of netscape. that's how netscape fell from "king of the hill" to "what's that 'N' in the corner?" one who's own version of java was intentionally incompatible with that of sun's. we can't have ms as one company as the guys who make the applications have access to the os source code. that is a real advantage to their application developers. their own applications can be much more powerful as a result. also, the cost of development is significantly reduced as they have access to this source code. how can anyone else compete and make a living ? just my 2 cents.
it has something to do with the drivers becoming too lazy to adapt the speed to the driving environment. they will instead tend to drive at the max speed that the system will allow. this situation is as dangerous as a car that is not limited whose speeding driver adapts to the driving situation.
as the cost of storing info drops, this can only get worse. it may even be possible to keep a list of the web pages that every individual visits. imagine ... in 2003 you're refused a job cos in 1999, you clicked on pages that were inappropriate. this is possible ....
yup ... microsoft don't want you cos you clicked on slashdot.org about 200 times.
the silly-ron's been superceded by the duron in terms of price and performance. thanks to the sis730, the duron'll have affordible motherboards soon. also, the celeron's due for a faster bus soon ...
how will the samuel stand next to the 100mhz fsb celly ?
!duh? light travels faster than sound. so if you saw it yesterday, and you heard it today, it's about 45000km from mhere you are. Hey that's not too far away....
but when i put these jingos on, i'll find myself in a wrestling ring, tag team'in with a big penguin against bill g and one of his terrible sidekicks.
don't you all love living in the free world ? i mean ... if there was no competition, there may be something like 1078 comptuters worldwide, all belonging to governments and big businesses.
had it not been for b\competition, most of the 1078 computers may have been using rambus.
However, there's nothing forcing coders to contribute to open source efforts.
I feel that it's a good idea to force those learning the trade (schoolkids and cs undergrads) to attempt projects that will contribute to the pool of code that we have. Instead of doing the same old algorythm every year (that allows educators to easily grade the code, and learners to copy previous attempts) do something new. It'll be great training and will contribute to the betterment of society as a whole. It'll also help programmers learn how (not) to write code that can be used by others for tweaking. Because in time, instead of writing code from the ground up, most programmers will be modifying existing "works"
Students can demo their code or tweaks to code to potential employers to make themselves more marketable.
so there still is some room for the os movement :)