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Quick, Danny, write faster! Danny Yee has written additional reviews of Jessica Litman's Digital Copyright , Naomi Klein's No Logo , and John Sundman's Acts of the Apostles . (You might want to flashback to earlier reviews of these by Michael Sims and Jon Katz, Warren A. Layton, and Hemos.)
From the Persian for "King" Frederic Friedel of Chessbase contributed some links which are especially interesting in light of the recently announced match between Deep Fritz and Vladimir Kramnik. He points to this link and this other link, saying "The latter has some nice quotes from Kramnik."
In addition, Frederic has links with more on Kasparov vs. Deep Blue, and Fritz in Space.
But the name is already perfect for a MAD parody ... RFINN writes: "If you haven't heard by now, Lucasfilm announced the name of Episode II. It's going to be called 'Attack of the Clones.' If you're like me, this stirs up pictures of Jedi running from giant red tomatoes and such. Do your civic duty and help change the name that has become the laughing stock of the sci-fi movie going community (and some of the actors themselves) by signing a petition to be sent to George Lucas."
Sold! to the man with the large contingent of lawyers!
ncmusic writes "For all of you readers that have been following Bid For Power the DragonballZ Q3 mod. Funimation has issued a cease and desist order to the group. Funimation has excluse rights to DBZ in the US (and EU I think) and has sold exclusive video game rights to Infograms. Below is the announcement made on the site about the order. My question to the slashdot community is do you think this is fair? BFP is a FREE mod to an already existing game. Have their been any other precedence set for making mods based on characters from copyrighted work? And what advice do you have for the Bid For Power group?
'As many of you know Funimation owns the copyrights to Dragonball Z in the USA and has sold the exclusive rights to publish video games to Infogrames. On December 1st, 2000, the Bid For Power team received a cease and desist order from Funimation.
However, they seemed receptive to the notion of allowing Bid For Power to be released so long as certain conditions were met. We were put in touch with Infogrames who asked us, among other things, to recreate Bid For Power on Wild Tangent, a java-based engine, which would then be posted on the Dragonball Z website for people to play. This engine is incapable of running something as detailed as Bid For Power and we would have had to start work from scratch. Most of the team rejected the idea and talks went downhill from there. Without contact with Infogrames or Funimation the progress of Bid For Power slowed down even though we were sitting on a finished product and had been for some time.
We began dealing with Funimation directly in April when they asked us to send videos of gameplay to them so that they could have TOEI Japan review it. We sent the videos and heard nothing until we emailed them in July asking that we be allowed to release in August, since no objections had be made from TOEI Japan that we knew of. We were then sent another Cease and Desist order by way of Funimation.'"
So the confirmed-as-rumor rumor has become real? This is the sort of thing that would be best kept in the realm of rumor.
Funimation/infocomm has the rights to DBZ video games. TOEI (sp) does not, they've aleady sold them and could care less.
However, if the game qualifies as a parody then most of the copyrights are extremely difficult to maintain. Having had some exposure to DBZ, i'm sure that it won't be that hard to get from serious DBZ to a Parody of DBZ.
I have to agree, though your entire email could be rewritten by replacing "'liberals' don't want to liberate us from anything except personal responsibility" with "'conservatives' don't want to conserve anything except their narrow religious outlook and their bank accounts". By the larger point remains, only simplistic morons continue to try and describe politics in a black vs. white, left vs. right, linear graph.
Let's pick some examples and give a Bizzaro World rating on each isue:
Abortion: This is one of the weirdest issues to be shoe-horned into the conservative versus liberal scale. Abortion is entirly a religious issue. A powerful subset of religions in this country has decided that this is their litmus test. The supposedly constitutional conservative polititions should be pointing to the "separation of church and state" clause of the Constitution and telling these groups to fuck off. The supposedly careing liberal politions should be fighting for money to build huge government "embryo orphanages" to bring up and help the helpless little zygotes. Bizzaro world rating: 9.7
Welfare (see military): Tax credits to corporations, payments to farmers, discount grazing rates on public lands, mineral rights to public lands sold for a fraction of the private-sector value; all are defended by the supposedly conservative right wing and opposed by the supposedly liberal left. Bizzaro world rating: 9.4
Military (see welfare): The biggest government-funded job program in history is the darling of the conservatives. On the other hand, the biggest government-funded job program in history (that also provides education and training for some of the poorest citizens) is the target of the librerals. Bizzaro world rating: 9.1
Drug War: Similar to the arguments on abortion. The liberals are saying, "Stay out of my life, let me do what I want." The conservatives are pushing for military raids on individiual's homes, "taking" of private property, and system that amounts to little more than a government job's program for lawyers and prison guards. Since the drug war does proportionatly affect minorities and the poor these issue does play into the stereotypes of convervatives versus liberals which limits the bizzaro world rating: 5
Environment: You would think that an Adam Smith solution to this issue would make everyone happy. Make corporations pay the full cost required to clean up after themselves. Charge full market value for logging, grazing, and mineral rights on government land. To do anything less is welfare. The conservatives sure don't seem to pushing very hard on this. On the other hand, liberals seem to have a knee jerk reaction against anything that "commodifies" nature and they also have a tendanency to want to spend infinite amounts of money on perfect solutions instead of available money on those solutions that will do the most good. See the flap over the "arsenic in the drinking water" as a good example of politics over results. Bizzaro world rating: 8.7
My last point: next time someone tries and describe someone as "conservative" or "liberal" when they really mean "right" or "left"... slap them.
Waltz, nymph, for quick jigs vex Bud.
You're going to sign a petition to make him change the name from "Attack of the Clones"? Really, is that any worse than "The Empire Strikes Back"?
I swear, Lucas can do nothing right anymore.
Patrick Doyle
I mod down every jackass who puts his moderation policy in his sig. Oh, wait a sec....
WildTanget ( http://www.wildtangent.com ) Is not a necesarrily a Java engine. It is a graphics module useable in just about any programming language, this includes C++ and Visual Basic. The team wouldn't have to start from scratch, they'd just have to clone the Q3A engine. The WT object is very flexible and could very well make a game like Quake3. It just wouldn't be as fast. Don't diss the WildTangent =P
5) acknowledge the fact that yes, they're trying to take somebody else's creation, and exploit the franchise for their own uses. They're not getting money for it, perhaps, but the point is that they're using somebody else's work without asking.
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But you don't solve chess, you would calculate "End Game tablebases" which are large lookup tables that tell you a game result given a chess (board) position. I believe that the 5 piece EGTB has been fully calculated, with parts of the 6 having been done too (ones involving queens?).
You won't find time-shifting or space-shifting in USC17 either, but we do have those rights. Thanks to the courts anyway.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
When questioned why, he said that "Revenge is not a Jedi Concept".
IIRC, this little factoid was revealed on the "The Making Of...." preview at the start of the Special Edition video tape (3-tape widescreen collection, U.K. version, though it's probably present on all the SE Ep III tapes).
However, I'm posting from work, so I'm unable to verify this source right now. It could all be a figment of my diseased imagination. Or it could be marketing spin to make Lucas sound more like Buddha and less like a merchandising-cash-hungry dog.
Hey, d'you know how highly customised these processors are for chess? And how highly optimised the code is to do the solving? Trying to split it over multiple processors with different architectures and serious latencies between them is a losing bet, at least for a real-time solution.
I believe their main concern is getting it done in real time. Like weather forecasting or 3-D graphics, the techniques for solving the problem have been identified many years ago - the only problem is seeing how much processing power (and algorithm optimisation) you can put in to reach a certain level of "good".
Grab.
It wouldn't work for a real chess game, the latency between the "nodes" is too large for a realtime chess game. I wrote a parallel chess implementation (parallelised the AB game tree search) on a Beowulf and that was pushing the latency requirements (I got down to 50msec). :)
What Dnet would be good for is move searches and end game tables, tables that specifiy a board position and the final outcome of that game
Please correct the petition to state "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" rather than "Attack of the Killer Tomato's".
It's already extremely unlikely Lucas will pay any attention, but we might as well be grammatically correct in our attempt, so as not to be discarded before he even sees the petition.
Who was the idiot that thought *that* was a good idea?
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
Remember, periods go inside the quotes.
Some of us hackers/geeks do it differently for a reason. Not sure if that applies here, though.
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But aside from Qui-Gon becoming a double-ended shish-kebab (and forgetting to become one with The Force), Obi-Wan was only briefly disarmed, before picking up Qui-Gon's sabre and finishing the job. And I recall Amidala fighting her way into the throne-room where she could point a gun at the Trade Federation guys. Neither really gave up their weapons. And the whole battle was eventually resolved when Anakin fluked the destruction of the control ship (man, they had light-speed travel, but didn't know about redundancy) using a Naboo ship he'd borrowed.
I suspect that you're reading just a little bit too much intentional sub-plot into the movie.
I refer them to this handy guide: Bob The Angry Flower's Quick Guide to the Apostrophe, You Idiots
Hopefully that'll clear things right up.
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Anyway, if Jar-Jar and Jake had been involved the title would have been more like "Itsa De Cloneys Attacking. Yippeee!".
Umm no
But they have the right to protect their trademarks - it is the Law - Dont like it - go to university and get a law degree, or run for government and change it - dont sit there and whinge. Legally they have a perfect right to control the actions of a non profit mod - the own the character rights and thus they can legally say how and where the names, images and concepts can be used - end of story.
The MS comment is childish - you are talking about 2 different licenses and 2 different laws - MS license you to make USE of their product thus you can write letters on it etc etc.
Fair us unfortunately has NOTHING to do with copyrighted images etc, the company could choose to not block or to block it - they have chosen the latter - and Funimation have total right to stop them as they own the characters (legally)
Check out the MS license and then do a search on copyright laws.
These guys have wasted their time and they lose out -they should have gotten a clearance in writing before starting - thats what BUSINESS people do - and even if its not for profit the company can argue the very reason they chose the Dragonball Z characters was to get the considerable fan base intersetd that is they used the funimation copryrighted material to attract customers to their product - whether they make money of not is a moot point really.
I refuse to argue with Anonymous Cowards - if you want a discussion get an account....
Been there, done that:
e ct %20FAQ.htm
ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/Chess%20Analysis%20Proj
Building something that actually plays chess
over such a network is not going to work. Latency
is critical for all current parallel chess algorithms.
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GCP
My first response when seeing the petition to change the god awful name of Episode II was happiness at being able to voice my mind and support an effort to improve a series I care about.
On consideration however, I think that signing that thing ignores the real problem -- quality of content. It is my expectation that Ep II will suffer a weak storyline, lame characters, jackass explanations (i.e., the Force comes from bugs in your cells or whatever the hell that was) just as Ep I did. Given this near certainty, I think the title is great. Let shit be called shit and we can save ourselves some grief.
There are better things to petition than the name of the next star wars. Sorry, but they screwed you on the last one -- now is the time to give in.
What might be better? Well, for one:
Anti-DMCA Petition:
http://www.dibona.com/dmca/
Programmers speak in Code.
http://www.anti-dmca.org
You really need to start acting or there won't be any net...
Stupid people get no sympathy here.
(Karma, goodbye...)
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Look, "Attack of the Clones" is cheesy, I admit, but a whole lot less chessy than "Star Wars" or "The Empire Stikes Back". We've just gotten used to those being the names of great movies.
People keep getting upset about the Star Wars films having Lucas fingerprints all over them, and for the life of me, I can't understand why! Star Wars is Star Wars, and it should not suprise you that there are things as painful as Ewoks, as predictable as light-sword fights, as broken science as ships meant for vacuum with hinged hatches. These are the hallmarks of the fun-but-essentially-fluff science-fiction-fantasy that Lucas creates. It's decent fantasy, but with high (and almost certainly accidental) camp value.
Go see the movie expecting a Lucas film, and I guarantee you will not be disappointed. Go expecting the next 2001, and you will be an unhappy camper.
"Crouching Jedi, Hidden Clone"
Can't take credit for that one, though... :)
If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The Phantom Menace refers to the underlying theme of the SW films: evil lies within. It showed its characters embracing violence (Amidala), deceit (Qui-Gon) and anger (Obi-Wan) in order to do what they considered to be the right thing. Intelligent film-watchers who have seen ROTJ should be aware of this. It is only when Luke renounces violence at the end of ROTJ that the tables turn and the "good" side wins. Coincidence???
Consider the end of TPM. All three contingents are effectively "disarmed" (sometimes forcibly) before they achieve victory. And the moment they give up their weaponry -- they win.
But what does this all have to do with clones? Thematically, TPM is full of "doubled images" (handmaidens, Sidious/Palpatine, droids) which are associated with order falling apart. Even the planet Naboo is split into two halves (the ego and the id - diplomats and warriors), etc. And so if you actually bother to reflect on it, the new title makes perfect sense. These bad decisions our "protagonists" will make (out of - no doubt - a desire to do good) will begin to backfire on them badly.
As much as people may dislike Jar Jar (I found his presence objectionable myself), doing idiotic things like signing this petition is just foolish.
This may be a little bit before some of you, but Lucas refered to Return of the Jedi as Revenge of the Jedi to the press as to make it more dificult to find out info on it, and He has a long history of Misinformation, Misdirection, and Tentative Title names to keep people on thier toes.
I expect this to be no differant.
"Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds" - RWE
Jar Jar clones...
"Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
Actually, that dates back to the old by-hand printing presses. They had to put it inside the quotes for some strange reason.
I keep trying to pick fights, but I can't shake this Excellent karma.
The alternative reason is that Star Trek 2 was coming out at about the same time, and it's original title was "Revenge of Khan". Lucas changed his movie so there'd be no confusion, but then it got changed to "Wrath of Khan" anyway.
Dyolf Knip
He knows a girl with a Revenge on the Jedi shirt. Does that not just say "she-geek" to you?
I actualy disagree with the point I'm about to make... but your logic is flawed so I'm going to point it out to you.
Don't think "theft" of the digital property. Think "theft" of the rights to distribute that property. Once someone else has given the property away you no longer have the exclusive right to distribute do you? Unauthorized copies are moving around. That's how it's "theft."
Killfile(TGK)
No trees were killed in the creation of this post. However, many electrons were inconvenienced.
Can my character have DBZ hair? Can my character have DBZ clothing? Can my character shoot big fireballs? Can my character have DBZ naming?
You draw that line in the sand and I'll find some way to split it in half. Copyright laws were designed to focus on intent, not specifics.
- JoeShmoe
-- I wonder which will go down in history as the bigger failure: the War on Drugs or the War on Filesharing
Not so fast...I think this is not as simple as you make it sound.
I think there is a case to be made that this mod would fall under the category of parody. This means that it is protected from claims of copyright infringement under the first ammendment.
Besides, if you want to take such an exclusive view...where do you draw the line? Can I use a DBZ skin for my player? Can I use a DBZ character name for my player?
IMHO, if there is no profit involved then the courts, society, and all of us should be giving people wide latitude when it comes to these kinds of creative endevours.
- JoeShmoe
-- I wonder which will go down in history as the bigger failure: the War on Drugs or the War on Filesharing
The question if it is fair is not relevant unfortuantely - i know that this an unpoluar opinion in some quarters of /. but funimation holds the copyright on Dragonball Z and thus they have the right to control its usage and appearance, thus if they say cease and sesist you cease and desist - its the law and the law has nothing to do with fairness. You could argue fair use and no profit but i fear that wont work as they have proven themselves to be aggresive in defending their copyrights (and it is legal for them to do so)
I refuse to argue with Anonymous Cowards - if you want a discussion get an account....
I'm sorry but did you see that last movie. Giant Red Tomatoes would be a huge improvement. I think the petetion should be to replace Jar Jar with a Giant Red Tomato.
Heh. Really. So you believe that simply because a corporation bullys you you should believe everything they say? There *is* a legitimate question here as to whether they have the legal right to control in any way the actions non-profit, free mod of an existing computer game. Saying that they have a legitimate claim is like saying that someone who wrote a school essay on Microsoft Windows deserves to be sued by Microsoft for using their "copyrighted" material in the essay. It falls under fair use. They are not profiting from it. They are not "photocopying" original material. They are simply designing a free mod using ideas that have been aired on television. I believe there are also laws that anything aired over public airwaves becomes fair game. So just because Funimation claims they have the right to stop these people doesnt mean that in fact they do.
While theUnited States Constitution makes no provisions for or against the existance of copyright that does not mean it is not legitimate law (general reference, not disputing your point). Remember that The Congress shall have Power... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
The Courts have taken this to mean (especialy under the 14th ammendment) that the Congress can make pretty much whatever law it wants provided that it doesn't abridge any specific or implied freedom as determined by the court. Furthermore, I find it highly unlikely that this Court is going to strike down Copyright as unconstitutional.
Killfile(TGK)
No trees were killed in the creation of this post. However, many electrons were inconvenienced.
"He wanted to go to the Holodeck!"
Dyolf Knip
Oh, just to clarify, I'm geniunely not being sarcastic here (I would have used more italics and the SARCASM tag).
Wow.....
Umm am i missing the point here ? maybe cause as far as i can see Lucasarts can name the movie anything the like - they own the property after all, they appeal of phantom menace i think has shown that they no longer rely on the fanboi element for survival and they could really call it Star Wars Three - Obi One sucks Yoda's cock and they would all still go and see it.
Dont you think its a bit childish to have petitions to change the name of a movie that a company has decided on ? What about world hunger? civil rights ? rape? Nope were gonna protest about a movie
I give it approx 10 minutes befors some ethical person posts email addresses for lucas arts staff or george lucas himself - that wayy all of you can mailbomb them to death in the reponsible adult way you all practice
Bad mental picture:
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Jar-jar gets cloned
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Tthe "UPDATED" feature in Slash is there for a Reason. Why don't you slashdot-editor-people ever seem to *use* it?
If you're going to put up a link to a petition which is closed *before a single comment has been posted*, then wouldn't it make sense to alter the article and note in it "oh, btw, you can't sign the petition anymore" ?
What's up with this wierd aversion to updating the article to reflect important details that are A) in h2 type at the top of the link B) noted in cid #12 or so..? I mean, it isn't a big problem.. i'm just curious.
I'm not a fan of dragonball Z (sorry Taco I just don't like it) but this whole thread brought to mind fan fiction. I have every feeling of certainty that some company has the book rights for dragonball z and I'm sure that there are books out there based in the DBZ universe that can be had at any waldenbooks. just as easily I'm sure i can search google for DBZ fanfics. so when is someone going to start CandDing fan fic sites?
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Whatever your opinion on whether it was right or wrong, I don't think it's outrageous for Infogrames or Funimation to think it might cause competition to them; I mean, you're basically creating a game based on a story you don't own. And anyone who doesn't consider a mod a real game must not have hit the computer game store lately. Look how many mods have hit the shelves as retail games (and are presumably making money). Personally I think Infogrames was acting pretty cool in offering the developers a chance to get involved in legit, paid work.
Did anyone even bother to listen to the little bit of history the original movie presented itself with? do you guys even *remenber*? (the ones always bitching about E1 being crap ;)
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If they are making the movie after the Clone Wars, the title is perfect..perhaps it is 50-60ish, but so what, it's better then watching the Trade Federation and the annoying droids do all the fighting
Then again, i'm use to reading the Star Wars books, which are as we all know, books are always twice as good as movies
Well, movies frequently have fake names while they are still in production. ROTJ was once called "Revenge of the Jedi" while it was still in production. In any case, Lucas should have embellished the title a little more to "Attack of the Killer Clones from Outer Space", though hopefully it won't be quite that hokey (cross fingers).
it's incredible how people are always bitching about StarWars! First you complain about The Phantom Menace title, next about JarJar, next about Attack of the clones. Since the SW prequels resurfaced, the only thing people are doing is critisizing George on every thing he does. You really think The Empire Stikes Back was such a great title?? Come on! If I was George Lucas I would stop right after Attack of the clones and NEVER make the 3rd one. How cruel would that be?
Rape and such is already illegal. Why would you protest something that isn't allowed?
News flash... things that "aren't allowed" still happen. Plenty. Bringing attention to illegal atrocities may serve to reduce their occurance even more.
Unfortunately, very little is likely to reduce the occurance of Star Wars movies. Sigh.
They have four options:
1) Change the game to a Dragonball Z like mod. All they would have to do is change the faces of the characters. Just so they are not immediately recognizable. They would also have to change a few maps (like Kami's house).
2) Ask for donations. Check out the forums over there (links at the top of their page) and if everyone only sent $5 dollars they'd probably have enough for legal defense. Some lawyers might take it pro bono for publicity.
3) Get whichever company makes Quake (don't own it so I don't know) to help them. This is a mod for an existing game, so Funimations licensing may not cover it.
4) "Sneak" a copy or several hundred thousand out to the general public. Once it's out (and I've heard copies are already floating around) what is Funimation going to do? I envision an ICQ/ email/ etc distribution campaign. This is what I would do.
No sig for you.
IMHO, if there is no profit involved then the courts, society, and all of us should be giving people wide latitude when it comes to these kinds of creative endevours.
So if I take something of yours and give it away, but I don't charge for it, that's ok, right? Because there's no profit involved, right?
Something tells me this viewpoint is just a little bit simplistic.
IANAL. That out of the way, the line for parody is that it must use only as much of the original to be readily recognizable. I suggest that a good parody that knew how to stay on the line was Spaceballs. They could even gat away with Dark Helmet's...er...helmet, plus the Alien re-enactment in the diner. Mad Magazine also knows its way around how far it can go and come in under the parody clause.
--The basis of all love is respect
Dude's got to lay off the crack.
Trolls throughout history:
Jonathan Swift
Jebus people! If you create something for your own personal use it DOES NOT constitute copyright infringement. Nor would it constitute patent infringement. Those 2 areas of law are designed to prevent COMPETITION. If you are not distributing the creation, it is not competition.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
There are an astronomical number of possible board configurations in chess, but they are finite. A distributed system could play every possible chess game, attempting every possible move and every possible countermove, and find out what lines result in white win, black win, or draw. By building that sort of database, a computer would be able to play by rote memory to the best possible outcome.
Once that was done, chess would be as "boring" to computers as tic-tac-toe is to adults, and for the same reasons.
--The basis of all love is respect
I was kinda thinking along those lines myself. If I was Lucas, I KNOW I wouldn't be able to resist the chance to fuck with the heads of a bunch of Star Wars geeks :) For all we know he could be laughing his ass off right now.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
to change their name to Attack the of the Alien BFP Clones just to piss everyone off
BOSTON SUCKS!
This is the RC3, so it says on the page where I found it
two links!
BOSTON SUCKS!
Distributing DBZ eps...you have a case. Distributing fan scripts and stories? Then I don't think you should, even though the laws say you do.
The whole purpose of the copyright laws were to encourage creativity. Things that extend or add to creative works (as long as their are clearly labeled to identify origin) should be allowed.
- JoeShmoe
-- I wonder which will go down in history as the bigger failure: the War on Drugs or the War on Filesharing
Maybe technically finite, but astronomical doesn't give justice to the number. My quick estimate is that even if you could somehow store one game per atom, the entire earth doesn't have enough atoms to save all of the permutations.
The Aliens TC scared the hell out of me. Especially the first level. That was incredibly creepy the first time through.
If there's any old-school Doom fans here who haven't played it yet, it's worth your time. >:)
They are simply designing a free mod using ideas that have been aired on television.
Profit isn't the deciding factor. If Microsoft decides to clone StreetFighter and give it away for free in an effort to kill Capcom -- like they killed Netscape by giving IE away for free -- is that okay? They're not making a profit on it!
The issue of damage to the copyright holder has to be part of the discussion.
Liberalism is socialism. Conservatism is fascism. Vote Libertarian.
Amen, brother. I can agree with that one.
Why are you letting these clowns ruin our country?
He did it with Jedi
Imagine the t-shirt presses of Shenzen are whirrin up right now with "Attack of the Clones".
Be a bit of a blow to them if he changed the name a month before it opened.
'There is a Light that never goes out.'
'fanfic', or other sorts of 'takeoff's arn't covered by copyright.
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Even "Star Wars" is a hokey name. That's the point, isn't it?
sulli
RTFJ.
I once read somewhere (how's that for specific? :-) that it was calculated that if every electron in the universe were pumping out thousands of chess moves every second, it would still take many times more than all the time that has existed so far to compute all the possible chess moves there are. Maybe if we used a beauwolf cluster of universes...
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You mean other than being the same people with multiple accounts?
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
"Do not taunt happy Funimation ball Z."
If you really think about it, "Star Wars" sounds sort of silly to begin with.
Shakes the Clone
Planet of the Clones
Home A-Clone
Clone with the Wind
Jurassic Clone
The Lion Clone
Beverly Hills Clone
The Clonefather
Honey, I Shrunk the Clones
Dances with Clones
101 Clones
Snow White and the Seven Clones
The Rocky Horror Picture Clone
An Officer and a Clone
The Nutty Clone
The Hunt for Clone October
The Clonefather II
Remember the Clones
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Clone
Interview with the Clone
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Clone
Star Wars VI: Return of the Clone
How the Clone Stole Christmas
Raiders of the Lost Clone
Saving Private Clone
The Perfect Clone
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!