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Slashback: Equivalence, Toilets, Hundredth

Screenshots of the recently released OpenOffice, another appeal for old Usenet archives, a possibly true account of the One True Conspiracy, and Yes, a way for you to send messages of (sympathy? rage? hope?) to sojourners at MIT while they study for exams. All below in tonight's episode of Slashback.

Screenshots to show the boss. Jim Hall writes: "The other day, I downloaded OpenOffice build 628C for Linux and for Windows. I use Red Hat Linux (7.1) at home, and I already use StarOffice (5.2) for my regular office needs. It works great. I think my main complaint with OpenOffice is the silly desktop. Other than that, I consider it a fully functional office suite that can replace my MS Office needs anytime.

I didn't see any cool OpenOffice screenshots, so I made my own of the text document program. I didn't do any (yet?) of the spreadsheet program, or presentation software. These were really captured for the benefit of my brother, but I'm posting them here so that others can see them."

When I was a boy, we didn't have "archives" ... jbrw writes "Occasionally complaints will pop up that the archives at groups.google.com aren't complete enough. Well, here's your chance to help. Google is conducting an archive hunt to find some CDs from the "NetNews CD Series" pre-dating 1995, to help fill out their archive. I'm sure there's a whole heap of useful information hidden away in there, so it would be nice if it was available for all. Google says they will pay a spotter's fee for any of the CDs they don't have yet. I imagine the /. crowd would be more impressed with some sort of custom t-shirt, but there you go..."

We've mentioned this before, but it looks like they're still looking, or at least haven't updated the page.

Pinch your salt well, folks. Sir_Real writes "The RIAA wants to re-establish the CPRM standard. It is also lobbying lawmakers to make the ISP responsible for content shared by the people they provide for. Sound Cards are being targetted also. If Ms. Rosen has her way, "Watermarked" content will not be rippable because of hardware protection implemented in the new cards. The Register has the full story."

My advice would be to take this one more as a thought experiment than anything else, though it would be interesting if some sort of substantiation emerges.

The site named after a game show noise hits a milestone. Zanthrax writes: "ZZZ Online just got their 100th edition out ! You should go see this site if you allready haven't. Lots of cool stuff on the site gets submitted to /. , Like their ornithopter story which was on a lot sooner than here on /."

Just good, clean, vicarious bathroom fun. random-nerds writes: "Following a suggestion from a Slashdot reader, we built and installed a display in our bathroom so all you crazy Int0rnet junkies can send us messages while we're in our bathroom. Now the MIT Bathroom Server is fun for the whole family. Check it out at http://neurosis.mit.edu/foo/"

There's something wrong there.

238 comments

  1. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Congratulations. Your speed and timing are an inspiration to us all.

  2. The RIAA by jiheison · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Recording Industry Ass. of America

    Gotta love it!

    1. Re:The RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny cause it's true.

    2. Re:The RIAA by dan+dan+the+dna+man · · Score: 1

      Story retracted by The Register - they were hoaxed.
      See their apology

      cheeky internet fraudsters..

      dan

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  3. shit blew up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  4. An actual picture by spudnic · · Score: 1

    I want an actual picture of the message screen on the bathroom server. I know it would be /.ed in no time, but this just sticks text inside of a graphical frame. I want proof! ;)

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    1. Re:An actual picture by ekrout · · Score: 3, Interesting
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  5. Surfing the web in the loo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure pr0n filters have been enabled on those systems...

    1. Re:Surfing the web in the loo by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      >I'm sure pr0n filters have been enabled on those systems...

      Heh, it seems like they are, at least for data headed into the bathroom. I typed in a few choice words and got 403'd!

      Shaun

      --
      Thanks to the War on Drugs, it's easier to buy meth than it is to buy cold medicine!
  6. Big Red Button by Sawbones · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's with the big red button on the MIT Bathroom display? If it does nothing may I suggest the "Please Fed-Ex me Toilet paper" internet alert button.

    Next feature request: send remote flushes to the Foo Floor toilet.

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    1. Re:Big Red Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a giant LED that fades in and out or flashes depending on whether a message just came in.

      -jim

    2. Re:Big Red Button by Kev+Vance · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd assume it's the "Push to test" *click* "Release to detonate" button, heh heh...

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    3. Re:Big Red Button by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and the website says, and I quote, "See the (possibly long) log...".

      Those guys at MIT have to over-engineer everything, even their poops!

    4. Re:Big Red Button by marnanel · · Score: 2

      I thought big red buttons were supposed not to do anything.

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  7. Safe Harbour by Lord_Pall · · Score: 2, Redundant

    There's a choice quote from Hillary Rosen that everyone needs to pay close attention to.

    Looks like she wants to repeal the safe harbor protection that ISP's have.

    "Because of the magnitude of the problem, ISPs can no longer be shielded from the wrath of the law"

    I'm just aghast at the arrogance from all parties involved.

    1. Re:Safe Harbour by Lord_Pall · · Score: 3, Redundant

      It dawned on me that my first post wasn't completely clear.

      She's referring to holding all ISP's accountable if their users are found to be infringing on the riaa/mpaa ip rights (or wrongs if you prefer :) )

      The idea of pawning off legal or ip enforcement onto the isp is reprehensible to me, but seems to be the direction we're going

      we don't need a pesky legal system with due process.. just string them up at the corporations discretion..

    2. Re:Safe Harbour by sulli · · Score: 2, Insightful
      She is such an idiot. Does she realize that this would kill the ISP business as we know it?

      Oh yeah, she doesn't care, just so long as she can keep collecting recording-industry millions.

      Your CD purchase dollars at work!

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      sulli
      RTFJ.
    3. Re:Safe Harbour by fall-()ut · · Score: 1

      Not my dollars, I stole my music of Aimster.

    4. Re:Safe Harbour by The+FooMiester · · Score: 1

      Not only is making the ISP responsible wrong, it sets a dangerous precident.

      Would that make the telephone companies responsible for traffic that travels on their lines? Would it make the postal service responsible for the sending of pirated tapes thru the mail?

      I'd really like for someone to explain how this is different.

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    5. Re:Safe Harbour by unitron · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So let me see if I've got this straight. The RIAA, hardware makers, and Congress conspiring together to hijack your wallet and an open source answer to MS Office deserve to be buried in a Slashback with something about web surfing from a bathroom?

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    6. Re:Safe Harbour by mvdwege · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On the other hand, many people in the anti-spam community seem to support the idea of holding an ISP responsible for its spammers. Although I support that idea whole-heatedly, it presents me with a conundrum: if I want to hold my ISP responsible for the spammers it harbours, but I don't want them to be responsible for copyright infringement on their network, am I being a hypocrite?

      Mart
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    7. Re:Safe Harbour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      But telephone companies are ALREADY [at least in the UK] exempt from responsibility for their networks, ie they can't get prosecuted if someone plots to kill the PM over telephone. SO this is saying one kind of carrier is responsible, and should be prosecuted, and another one isn't - hypocrasy abounds!

    8. Re:Safe Harbour by Jaysyn · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Welcome to Amerika....

      Jaysyn

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    9. Re:Safe Harbour by markhb · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, ISPs are not yet afforded "common Carrier" protections in the US, which is what shields the telcos from liability for the actions of their users. However, in the US, that protection usually also forces the carrier to file tariffs with the FCC. However, physical transportation companies have had the filing requirements removed since 1994 and kept common carrier status, so there is precedent.

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    10. Re:Safe Harbour by haruharaharu · · Score: 1

      if I want to hold my ISP responsible for the spammers it harbours, but I don't want them to be responsible for copyright infringement on their network, am I being a hypocrite?

      No.

      You most likely object to the spammers because their behavior is disruptive and wasteful. They are also fairly high profile because of this. Copyright violations are almost invisible by comparison (unless they're sharing 3000 mp3s on a T3), so their actions aren't really disruptive.

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    11. Re:Safe Harbour by gorilla · · Score: 2

      I've only heard that discussed when the ISP has an agreement with the spammer that they won't be tossed for spam, the so called pink contracts.

    12. Re:Safe Harbour by ahde · · Score: 1

      The difference is that the ISPs are actually just transmitting data over the phone lines anyway. It would be like holding the phone booth company responsible for someone calling dial-a-tune (which would most likely happen if the phone companies didn't own the phone booths already)

    13. Re:Safe Harbour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      you said one thing that I take exception to:


      kill the PM


      I think this is very dangerous talk, encouraging people to break the law like that.

  8. So. . . by jiheison · · Score: 3, Redundant

    It seems the RIAA is not only determined to run itself into the ground, but now wants to sink the entire PC industry by robbing it of the utilities that people actually want? I was fine when they were only trying to dissuade me from buying new CDs, but now they want to discourage me from upgrading my sound card and/or entire computer.

    Especially now, PC manufactureres need the RIAA like a hole in the head.

    1. Re:So. . . by Jason+Earl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My favorite quote:

      Steve Heckler: "Once consumers can no longer get free music, they will have to buy the music in the formats we choose to put out."

      Or alternatively, consumers may simply start listening to bands from alternative labels that do most of their promoting with free music samples over the Internet. The fact of the matter is that the record labels are not nearly as useful as they were when distributing music meant putting vinyl records on shelves, and promoting it required convincing radio stations to give it air time.

      I personally have steered clear of this whole MP3 craze. So I couldn't care less what happens. But history and simple economics would suggest that the time is ripe for alternatives to the current music distribution scheme.

    2. Re:So. . . by plugger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If some legislation like this becomes law, what happens to hardware manufactured outside the US, for use outside the US? Are you guys gonna be making trips to Europe to buy non-crippled hardware or will economies of scale ensure that everyone gets copy-protecting hardware?

    3. Re:So. . . by jiheison · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you guys gonna be making trips to Europe to buy non-crippled hardware or will economies of scale ensure that everyone gets copy-protecting hardware?

      My money is on the latter, though not due to any kind of economy. You can already get arrested in Sweden for defying the MPAA, and South Korean college students are carrying their MP3 collections on portable hard drives to evade the local equivalent of the RIAA. Rest assured that the Copyright Industry is bent on world domination.

    4. Re:So. . . by Andux · · Score: 1

      I'm betting they'll start lobbying to outlaw user-programmable PCs ("Why, imagine if these pirates and hackers and terrorists used them to run unlicenced encryption! Think of the CHILDREN!! ") entirely in favor of dumb media appliances. They've already shown a blatant disregard for PC users with their latest CD copy control measures. It's only a matter of time.

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    5. Re:So. . . by theancient2 · · Score: 1

      Why is the drop in CS sales automatically attributed to the new Napsters? I actually don't know that many people that use them. Besides, when Napster first started, CD sales were going through the roof. They only started dropping again after Napster was killed. Or, maybe the drop in sales has something to do with the fact that the whole economy is slowing down. Or the fact that people simply don't like the RIAA, and are boycotting them. I'm starting to get just a little bit annoyed by their anti-competitive tactics, their purchasing of laws, and their misinformation. I, personally, have purchased more CDs as a direct result of being able to preview the music first, and know many other people who are the same way. Sure, there may be people who purchase less, but the point is, the RIAA is wrong in trying to convince everyone that the drop in sales can only be attributed to new Napsters.

    6. Re:So. . . by Alien54 · · Score: 2
      Well, I wonder if by the time they get their way, it may become irrelevant.

      Personally, I wouldn't mind if everyone who disagreed with them got to send them a little jolt of static electriciy, just to remind them they were not liked.

      I have other ideas, but they are not proper in a public forum like this.

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      "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
    7. Re:So. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally have purchased several cd's after downloading songs from Napster. Now the only cd's that I buy are used. Of course RIAA wants to ban sales of used cd's as they don't make any profit off of them.

    8. Re:So. . . by AbsoluteRelativity · · Score: 1

      Well, at least until they out law listening... Hey the constitution only guarantees we have a right to make a speech, but aparently we dont have the right to listen...

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    9. Re:So. . . by i_am_nitrogen · · Score: 1

      So... You have never ripped a CD to your hard drive? What do you do when you run out of songs? I mean, I wouldn't dream of going back to CD audio for my listening-while-coding needs. 74 Minutes in 650MB of CD Audio vs. 500+ minutes in 650MB (depending on bit rate) of OGG or MP3. The choice seems obvious to me. I rip all of my CDs to my hard drive, encode them to MP3, then when I get tired of an artist I don't have to go fetch a new CD. RIAA be fixed. Everything I've said here is within fair use: making archival copies. I can't comprehend how anyone could "Steer clear of this MP3 craze." Napster was a craze. MP3/OGG is the future.

    10. Re:So. . . by blibbleblobble · · Score: 1

      So what does the record industry hope to achieve? They flounder in random directions with no strategic plan, and nobody who knows what they want the future of music to be?

      So what's happening at the moment? I can't buy CD's from the shop (here in the UK) because they're becoming "copy protected" so that I can't play them on my computer.

      But hang on, aren't all the computer manufacturers making most of their money selling CD players, sound-cards, DVD players and CD-rewriters to the public? To the naive home-users who don't realise that they are being cheated of the ability to play music?

      To say nothing of the record shops themselves? Copy protection? Great. But how do they hope to deal with the slump in blank CDRs?

      Or with the people who would have bought a CD on the premise that they could copy it, but now don't? (That's still a sale, even if it gets copied)

      Or with the people whose main Hi-fi / CD-player is their brand-new computer, and will soon not be _able_ to buy CDs.

      Or the people who pay hundreds of pounds for portable MP3 players (fuelling remarkable innovation in the industry) to play only songs which are available on their computers.

      From the user's perspective, the future seems remarkably clear. If people want music, they have to go to iMesh or Filetopia. They get to sample music from new bands, and if they like those bands enough, they can go and get the CD, to save themselves days on the modem. Users happy, record-shops happy.

      At least they could until now. So the record industry want to "erase" music players from our computers? They want the new windows with copy-protected music formats, they want to put people who download music in jail, and threaten their ISPs, they want to sue, sue, sue anyone involved.

      So what options are they leaving their customers? "Just buy the damn CD, and who cares if you can't play it" they seem to be saying.

      Does this not strike you as an industry cornered, scared, thrashing out at anyone they can? Does this not strike you as an industry essentially telling their customers to "go away, don't bother with music any more"

      Let's put it in as simple terms as possible then. "If you want to change buying habits, provide something which customers want, and they will buy it." It's not terribly hard.

      So, my message to sony, riaa, etc. is, "you didn't create the CD industry by outlawing tapes, you didn't create the tape industry by outlawing records, and you didn't create the record industry by outlawing live performances. So what's changed? If you want us to use something new, provide for us something new, and make it better, otherwise we'll make it ourselves"

      Oliver White
      London/Nottingham, UK
      http://www.blibbleblobble.co.uk/

    11. Re:So. . . by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      The only way that I'll (and most of my friends)buy a CD from a RIAA member band if it is in a Used CD Shop. Too bad they'll go after those as soon as they take care of PC's.

      Jaysyn

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    12. Re:So. . . by drooling-dog · · Score: 1
      The essence of all of this is that the business model of RIAA's members is no longer sustainable on its own, and so they are attempting to shift the increasing costs of maintaining it to other industries (e.g., hardware manufacturers and ISPs) and to the public (e.g., surrender of "fair use" rights, monopoly pricing practices, law enforcement costs, etc.).

      It won't be enough to require the defunctionalization of sound cards; they'll also need laws that criminalize the use of older cards by consumers who decline to properly downgrade their equipment (as most surely will). Or, more efficiently, Microsoft can simply drop support of older cards and formats from the next version of Windows. So I guess it's Linux that'll need to be criminalized...

    13. Re:So. . . by Jason+Earl · · Score: 2

      I already have a 5 CD changer. It works fairly well (not nearly as well as having all of my songs available in an XMMS playlist, but nice enough).

      I have played a bit with oggenc to see what it is capable of, but for now it hasn't been worth the extra time it would take to convert all my music. The setup I have now works, and I have had better uses for my cycles.

      I totally agree, however, that compressed formats like MP3 and OGG are the future of music (at least until is is easy to cary around gigabytes of information). The people that I know that are still listen to and buy pop music all have large collections of MP3s. The target audience of the music industry is clamoring for MP3, and if the music industry ignores them, they do it at their own peril.

      The biggest reason that I have managed to "steer clear" of the MP3 craze is quite simple. I started learning to play the guitar, and I am finding it to be more enjoyable to make my own music, than listen to someone else's.

      Not everyone is going to learn to be a musician for the same reasons that not everyone is willing to learn to write their own software. But if the music industry continues to act aggressively against their own customers, then they will soon find that their customers have found new sources for their music.

    14. Re:So. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read these comments on Slashdot. I've read most of them for years now.

      Nope. I'm not a troll. I've no Slashdot account.

      You folks are missing it.

      Pay per play. Pay every time you play. Pay every time you listen to a song; everytime you watch a frame on a movie. Pay. Pay more. Pay again. Pay or don't have ANY music; Any movies, Any Digital Entertainment.

      You say that you will fight this, but the RIAA is playing a very subtle and serious long term game. They seek to control the ground on which the digital entertainment industry is built. They thank you very much for showing that it could be done and solving all of the those pesky technical details like building an internet and showing how popular free music could be.
      How?

      Simple.

      Criminalize anyone who interprets the original intent of the copyright law as a pirate out to steal the IP from the "starving artist." Never mind the truth, that's for historians to decipher centuries from now. Get Congress to go along with a few "adjustments" to the law. There is not a real problem with traditional copyright interpretations, except that they shouldn't apply to anything digital. After all digital mediums don't really exist in the real world. Your right to buy a book in paper format or listen to an audiocassette is untouched. The law should read (1) it is unlawful to copy anything without the express written permission of the copyright holder, (2) digital permission to copy must be authenticated in such a way as to verify that the copy is permitted by the copyright holder, (3) any attempt to violate this law should render anyone who might remotely be involved with this...the ISP, the homeowner, the phone company, etc...liable for both criminal and stiff civil penalties. It should be remembered that the mere threat of extended litigation will make most companies and people cooperate. So far: DMCA, with SSSCA in the works.

      Change the hardware and software that runs the internet and all digital devices so that it complies with the new Digital Copyright Law. You can't break the law if the hardware won't let you. To do this you have to provide a computer environment that regulates what the consumer can do on the computer. MS is moving in this direction already--lured by the pay and pay some more income stream, er..."Business model." If the hardware companies won't go along with this voluntarily, then you get congress to legislate. A law in itself or this could be slipped onto the end of an appropriations bill, or a "spelling error" could be fixed to make this so (As the RIAA has tried before in a related grab in the copyright field). The law should require that (1) all digital devices must comply with any copy protection scheme the copyright holder comes up with, (2) any attempt to understand the copy protection scheme by reverse engineering of circumvention must be criminalized, (3) all older technology must be allowed to exist, but should be rendered incompatible with the new digital copy formats, (4) Hardware that does not comply is to be considered contraband much like illegal drugs.

      Once these are in place, free music in digital form will vanish. Any music that comes on CD, or other digital format will have copy protection and verification codes. Any music that does not have these codes will not play and trigger a notification to the local law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the IP rights of the copyright holder. The software license agreement will ensure that by installing the music player you agree that the company or copyright holder can install and run any monitoring software on your hardware at any time. You will also agree to pay fines and legal fees incurred in prosecuting you for violating your license agreement. Don't agree? Don't install. Privacy? You waved that when you click "I Agree" on the license. Sure there will be a slow phase in stage where the controlled and uncontrolled systems co-exist. But digital hardware isn't designed to live forever.

      The radio will still be free right? Yes, but we will eventually switch to a completely digital broadcast system. Radio devices will be regulated, as will TV's. Therefore you will not be able to record anything with out permission and permission will come only for a fee. It will take time, but these companies are immortal and therefore have the time. Someday you will pay a flat fee to connect to the digital media. You will get email, TV, radio, music on demand and so on. But you will pay for every copy, every second of usage, every time shift will cost you. Not much, but every penny adds up, and most of it could be considered "free" money by the industry. Who will control what you pay? The RIAA, the MPAA, and other "content providers."

      This will not immediately affect "free speech." They will not read all of your email, but they will search it for "key phrases" that various governments and advertisers suggest (again you waved privacy with the license agreement).. It will be quiet. It will be subtle, but the next generation's children won't be able to understand the concept of "free speech" as we know it, anymore than our children understand the concept of "only three stations" or "you sound like a broken record."

      Yes it will cost the music industry fans. IT will anger consumers. But they will buy it anyway, because the entertainment industry is more valueable than your rights to fair use. It will cost short term sales. But they pay off on getting such a system inplace is immeasurable. The maximum potiential is given by the equation:

      Revenue = Length of entertainment * price * # people living * max number times it can be played per day.

      Just my own dark picture.

    15. Re:So. . . by i_am_nitrogen · · Score: 1

      Aah. I write music too. I like MP3 because it allows me to distribute my music more easily to my friends. But, I still like to listen to other peoples music.

    16. Re:So. . . by Jason+Earl · · Score: 2

      Yes, and the fact that you and I could potentially write music for a worldwide audience without the music industry's help is what has really got the RIAA's panties in a wad.

      They know that their power basically stems from their control of the music pipeline. But that control is eroding, no matter how many tricky formats they come up with.

  9. Bathroom Related News... by ragnarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.ratemypoo.com
    I'm speechless...

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    1. Re:Bathroom Related News... by Quizme2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Striaght from the MIT bathroom server this quote comes as no suprise:
      Woah, Nellie! This thing's beeping up a storm. We must have made Slashdot again.

      Yes they are pretty bright over there.

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    2. Re:Bathroom Related News... by camusflage · · Score: 2

      For you enterprising folks out there looking to serve the long-suffering coprophilic community, I see that shitornot.com is available.

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    3. Re:Bathroom Related News... by quick_dry_3 · · Score: 1

      thank the idea to have smells associated with webpages never took off...

    4. Re:Bathroom Related News... by Technician · · Score: 2

      New note on the web server.. Beeping has been disabled.

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  10. Let me get this straight... by imadork · · Score: 5, Funny

    At work, we've been worried that our boss is tracking our bathroom time to make sure we're "productive" enough on company time. And these guys are posting their bathrom usage on the Net? How ironic.

    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by snake_dad · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which ofcourse makes me wonder just how much you have to "produce" in the bathroom to make your boss happy? :-)

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    2. Re:Let me get this straight... by GreyPoopon · · Score: 1
      Hey, I don't know about you, but I do my best thinking on the hopper.


      BTW, I think my Nick' is appropo for this topic.

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    3. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was starting my engineering degree, only on the "thrown" could I understand theoretical physics... There is a pun there if you know the secondary definition of a "Physic".

  11. RIAA vs. AOL? by 11+platter+hard+driv · · Score: 1

    Would aol be all to happy with ms. rosen?

  12. Gotta love this statement... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We'll leave the last, chilling word to Sony Music Entertainment's Steve Heckler: "Once consumers can no longer get free music, they will have to buy the music in the formats we choose to put out." You have been warned.

    ...or I could simply be satisfied with the music I already have, or start listening to unsigned independent artists, or quit passively listening to the garbage the RIAA has the temerity to call "art" or "music" and start jamming with my friends. Who knows, I may even share it with whoever wants it in a format that I choose. Regardless, there is nothing that says that I have to do anything that involves participating in their greed-inspired, twisted vision of the future.

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    You're using her as bait, Master!

    1. Re:Gotta love this statement... by Kris_J · · Score: 3, Insightful
      A very interesting source of music if you like soundtrack stuff and/or electronica are old game CDs. The tracks can be quite short, and some of the first CD platforms out there used audio track for dialogue, but there are some seriously interesting bits of music hidden away on Game CDs.

      Personally, I bought a Game Doctor (CD buffer) to repair scratched CDs so I can buy second hand stuff without worrying too much that it will skip. And I regularly visit the new electronica page on MP3.com.

    2. Re:Gotta love this statement... by kryptik_79 · · Score: 1

      I may even share it with whoever wants it in a format that I choose.

      I like what you are saying here but the point would be better made if you stated it as "a format that they choose" since the real issue here is that music should be open to all in unregulated formats (no copy protection) or they should be rebuilding there business model to encorporate the ever changing world.

      You do have to understand a little where these record companies are coming from. Before electronically transfered files became common, these companies were making money hand over fist. Suddenly their profits are not increasing at the same rate.

      -- sigmata

    3. Re:Gotta love this statement... by dmarcov · · Score: 1

      [...Sony Music Entertainment's Steve Heckler...]

      Just for the record (and even mentioned in the article), Steve Heckler is SVP of Sony Pictures Entertainment -- it wouldn't bother me, except I used to work for the ... well ... I used to work for him.

    4. Re:Gotta love this statement... by tpv · · Score: 1
      One of the CDs I have sitting on my desk (Telafonic) has this on the back:

      undermine copyright laws - write a song and sing it to a friend for free

      I like.

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    5. Re:Gotta love this statement... by unitron · · Score: 2

      When you say CD buffer do you mean something that temporarily stores bits and bytes, or something that physically abrades the surface of the underside of the disc?

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    6. Re:Gotta love this statement... by Kris_J · · Score: 2
      Sorry.

      "something that physically abrades the surface of the underside of the disc".

      Web site here.

    7. Re:Gotta love this statement... by flink · · Score: 1

      Not every RIAA album is crap. Yes, the huge acts tend to be the blander or "safer" acts, but there is still alot of talent out there that gets scooped up with the chaff. Exampes lying around my desk: Downset (one of the few real hardcore bands I've seen on a major label), Mazzy Star (fairly obscure, but they're on Capitol), Bjork.


      I don't approve of their methods, but like MS, just because they are ruthless and underhanded doesn't mean that nothing worthwhile comes out of these companies.

    8. Re:Gotta love this statement... by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      Those CD Doctors work great. As long as there isn't a hole in the CDs substrate, I've been able to repair CDs that I never thought I would be able to listen to again. One that sticks out in my mind was a RAtM CD that had sandpaper taken to it by my younger brother.

      Jaysyn

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  13. Consoles in the bathroom, eh? by neema · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lets hope the bathroom servers don't have a disk dump!

    Get it?

    Eh?

    Eh?

    1. Re:Consoles in the bathroom, eh? by rtaylor · · Score: 1

      HAHAHA

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  14. Am I the only one who LIKES SO5.2's desktop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I use SO5.2 on my Linux laptop and my Win tower at home. And I like the desktop, and can't figure out why so many people bash on it.

    All of the office apps are neatly tucked away under a single entry in KDE's task window. I click that open, and I can see every one of my documents in a neat little desktop.

    In SO6.0beta, I get a individual window for every single document for each application (i.e. if i have two text documents and three presos open, I have 5 entries in the KDE task window, and I can't tell them apart until I onMouseOver them)

    btw - the load times for 5.2 with desktop seem to be about the same for me as loading just one app in 6.0 beta. In fact, it seems faster to use 5.2 once it's loaded when I create new documents.

    Some things aren't so useful, like the start button, and yes it does cover up other windows in the background, but I usually send SO to Window 4 or something all by itself, so that's no big deal

    1. Re:Am I the only one who LIKES SO5.2's desktop? by uchian · · Score: 1

      All of the office apps are neatly tucked away under a single entry in KDE's task window. I click that open, and I can see every one of my documents in a neat little desktop.

      You can set KDE to do this with any similar program. right-click on the two lines to the left side of the task window, and select preferences. Select "Group similar tasks", and there you have it.

      The trouble for me with SO5.2's desktop is... I already have the KDE one - why on earth do I need another desktop sitting on top of it?

  15. Log by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, forget the puns, just read the very long log. Amusing.

  16. The reason I don't buy music from major labels by jasonbrown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I want to assure all those reading this post that my reason for opposing all these ridiculous bills proposed by the RIAA and other powerful interests is not to "download free music". As a musician and a member of our community orchestra, I do not need to get my music from major labels. I get all the live music (which i prefer) from my friends, family, and the musicians that I know and play with.

    As I am treated like a child and told how I can and cannot use my computer (or other interactive digital devices), I am forced to use one of the first and easiest forms of protest to stop a commercial entity from causing harm. I am simply not buying commercial music (or other IP) from companies that support these new laws aimed at taking away our rights and freedom AS A FORM OF PROTEST. It's called consumer backlash and it is very effective. No money ---> No power.

    At the same time I am writing letters to my legislators opposing these new bills like the SSSCA. We let the DMCA get by us. That was a mistake. The DMCA should be declared unconstitutional (which is being worked on) and we should as Americans stand up and let our lawmakers and power hungry corporations know that we will not stand to be treated like children.

    The point of the matter is: Everytime you buy a CD from the companies that make up the RIAA, your funding this war on your privacy and freedoms. So quit buying them. Music is everywhere. Find it where it is free. Do not circumvent, just find something else to listen to. If you will just open your ears you will discover the world is full of music and we do not need the RIAA to feed it to us.

    And please, write your congressmen and senators with real paper. Let them know how you feel about these new bills and the DMCA. They won't know your opinion unless you tell them.

    These bills can be stopped but it takes many voices to be heard over all that money flowing from the lobbyists.

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    1. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by srvivn21 · · Score: 3, Informative

      As an alternative, if you simply must have currrently popular music, get it from secondspin.com or switchhouse.com or any other shop that sells used CDs. They sound just as good as the original, and more importantly, you are neither breaking any laws (yet) nor supporting the RIAA. Write your congress-critter anyways. It's the only way to keep your liberties.

    2. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by Howie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you are neither breaking any laws (yet) nor supporting the RIAA.

      Or those pesky artists, unfortunately.

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    3. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Umm, yeah.... That's, uh, why I download from gnutella... It's one of those prostate things.

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    4. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by Alsee · · Score: 1

      [CDs] quit buying them.

      Of course the RIAA will just point to any drop in sales to support their position. All lost sales* are obviously due to Pirates.

      * Definition 'lost sales': The difference between actual sales and the number of sales we think we should have made.

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    5. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by ethereal · · Score: 1

      Whoa there, pardner - there's no right to get a cut every time your creative work changes hands. The artist and the RIAA each got paid once, when the music was sold retail. And since the RIAA receives more of a cut than the artist, at least you're hurting the recording company more (per album, if not percentage-of-earnings-wise) when you buy secondhand.

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    6. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      Doesn't matter. That CD has been bought at least once. The Artist has already got their pittance for that particular CD.

      Jaysyn

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    7. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by gorilla · · Score: 2

      The artists got their money the first time the cd was sold. They have no moral or legal right to continue to be paid over and over for the same phyiscal copy.

    8. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by Howie · · Score: 1

      That's true - doctrine of first sale and all that. But what the original poster was implying was that no-one should buy new CDs anymore because of the various nefarious ways of the RIAA, and we should ALL buy only used CDs. After all, if we don't all do it, then it's no skin of the RIAA's nose, is it?

      However, at that stage the artist is still in hock to the label, but they aren't recieving any royalties.

      Naturally in this situation the label will let them off, and adjust their business plan to work as the consumer wishes. Or perhaps, they'll just sue those that they have by the goolies instead.

      Whatever brings about a change in the way musical recordings are sold and distributed is going to make a huge mess for a lot of the artists before it becomes the utopian vision that /. seems to prefer. [For me, that's that I can buy individual tracks online in an open format from the entire back-catalogue of recording labels, without me or the artist paying distribution costs or 'shellac-breakage' fees, for a sensible fee that the artist sees most of once recording costs are recouped - it's not so different from now, apart from the greed and old-fashionedness.]

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    9. Re:The reason I don't buy music from major labels by srvivn21 · · Score: 1

      It's true that by purchasing used CD's, I am not supporting the artists. I'm not obliged to. If you want to send the difference between the cost of the new CD and the cost of the used one directly to the artist, I certainly won't stop you. I might ridicule you, but then again, I'm like that.

      If new CD sales drop, and the artist defaults on their contract, and the record company takes every thing that they have... Sucks to be them for making such a crappy deal. Sadly, the smart and amoral will often take advantage of the less intelligent. Make a deal for a percentage of the gross sales, or stay independent.

      The good news is that if they have sufficient talent, and were not successful solely due to the promotion given by the record label, they will be able to find fame and recognition on their own. If they don't have the needed talent, or the drive, or the looks... There's always a need for manual labor.

  17. The RIAA is very misguided by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Sound Cards are being targetted also. If Ms. Rosen has her way, "Watermarked" content will not be rippable because of hardware protection implemented in the new cards"

    The RIAA is going through the classic crisis in the concept of property introduced by digital information.

    Since the invention of records and up to recently, music could never be found "living" outside of their wax drums, or vinyl disks, or cassette tapes. This was also true with books and photos, where the information could never be found "outside the paper". In short, up to recently, the medium and its content were inseparable from each other. As a result, humanity at large have blissfully mixed the commerce of media, which are physical numerable objects, and their content.

    Now that digital technology have split the two (you can have music or books or photos "floating around" as pure data), a millenia-old way of trading properties is totally crumbling : one cannot be sure that selling one medium-object sells exactly one copy of the content. The reason why traditional commerce of medium-objects works is because, up to today, it was harder or more expensive to copy the content onto a new medium than acquire a legit new copy. This is not true anymore : the lines have crossed, and it's now easier, cheaper and more convenient to copy the content than to acquire a legit copy.

    This is not a new problem. When did the lines cross ? for certain types of documents, like music sheets, the photocopier was a disaster (and publishers fought the photocopier). For music, the lines crossed when people could copy their audio cassettes with only a little quality loss. The lines haven't crossed for photographies, but I'm sure that won't take too long. Finally, books still sell as books today because people prefer paper books to LCD-equipped ebook, and it's still as hard to photocopy a paperback than to go buy it.

    So, the RIAA is fighting a lost battle : because they can't keep the medium and the content inseparable, they're trying to impair all the playback and recording devices enough that the hard-to-copy/easier-to-buy lines cross back to what it was before. Of course, it's impossible : even if every CD player and every soundcard in the world had copy protection (which is not going to happen, cf. 1930s prohibition), people would still find an easy way around the protection. The RIAA's other way of making it harder to copy things is by making it more legally dangerous : they count on most people's fear of the policeman to deter them from copying things, and in some cases, people's intrinsic honesty. For that to work, because copies are so easy to make, they'd have to create an Orwellian police state, and that's actually a real possibility.

    Of course, all traditional media companies are in the same boat. For example, when people will massively prefer E-paper over traditional books, book publishers will join forces with them, and that's not a prediction, that's a fact.

    What's the solution ?

    Well, there aren't many today : the traditional system of commerce with physical objects is so deeply rooted in human cultures that it's not going away anytime soon. A solution would be to create an entirely new economy for media contents from scratch. Not likely. Then, of course, if we had teleportation like in Star Trek, we could teleport medium-object as fast as we download data today, yet the teleported objects would retain their "object" property of uniqueness. Provided the teleportation process is free or very cheap, this would simply deprecate digital copies altogether. Again, not very likely.

    What's in store for the near future ? the RIAA, MPAA, publishing companies and other traditional giant media companies dying a more or less slow death due to their new-found utter inadequacy, and as they go down, hurting people's rights by imposing shoddy products and by twisting the arm of the law to protect their dying business models, instead of reinventing themselves.

    Brace yourself, it's going to hurt and it's only the beginning ...

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    1. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Surak · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The lines haven't crossed for photographies, but I'm sure that won't take too long.

      Really? So I take it you've never heard of a scanner? Companies like have developed technologies like "digital watermarking" which makes embeds copyright information into photographs in such a way that they are not visible to the naked eye, but scanners and other copying devices will pick them up. Put into an application like Photoshop, this copyright information can be read, and information about the copyright owner can be displayed. If all image editing and viewing applications supported such technology, it would be possible to prevent copying and modifying these copyrighted images.

    2. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2
      "Really? So I take it you've never heard of a scanner?"

      What I meant is, you don't (yet) hear Kodak or Polaroid moan and whine about how easy it is to scan argentic photographs with a scanner to view them on your screen, proposing that photo prints be moired to avoid scanning, or asking scanner manufacturers to embed watermark recognition in scanner's firmware to block scanning of copyrighted photos. The truth is, a photo print still is the best way of viewing a photo, until flat monitors with resolutions of 3000dpi or more are available for purchase by the average Joe Blow for cheap. Digital music on the other hand is as good from a CD player as it is from a $50 computer with a sound card, which is at the heart of the RIAA's complaints.

      I don't know if you're into photography, but watch the photo industry and you'll see that these guys are busy reconverting to digital and embracing the future because they realize argentic prints will eventually be deprecated. The music industry on the other end is busy clinging to their old way of making money, which is on the go for sure.

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    3. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Bishop · · Score: 2

      watch the photo industry and you'll see that these guys are busy reconverting to digital and embracing the future

      I was surprised when Kodak came out with its first digital cameras. Kodak has to be one of the few companies that took technology that was going to destroy their bussiness and run with it. Kodak even beat out the camera makers (Cannon, Pentax, etc.) to produceing a digital camera. Kodak knows that film and developing paper is about to be replaced by digital cameras and picture quality printers. As such Kodak has moved its bussiness over to making cameras and printers.

    4. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Insightful


      What I meant is, you don't (yet) hear Kodak or Polaroid moan and whine about how easy it is to scan argentic photographs with a scanner to view them on your screen, proposing that photo prints be moired to avoid scanning, or asking scanner manufacturers to embed watermark recognition in scanner's firmware to block scanning of copyrighted photos.


      There's a big difference between Kodak or Polaroid and those the RIAA represent. Kodak isn't producing IP. They produce media with which IP can be created. Granted - they might see a niche market in producing some of the watermark tech in their digital products.


      A better example of someone with a vested interest in photograph IP is Playboy.

    5. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      I don't know if this is exactly 100% on-topic, but I have an observation that bugs me.

      I hire a photographer to take (for example) wedding pictures for me.

      Said photographer takes the pictures, and I pay for the labour and materials.

      Now, the photographer tells me that he owns the copyright on the pictures that he took for me and I can not copy them or do anything with them without his permission.

      Excuse me? If I hire a carpenter to build a fence for me, when the job is completed and he has been paid he can't then tell me that nobody other than him can paint my new fence. It's my fence! I bought and paid for it.

      Why are photos different?

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    6. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Howie · · Score: 2

      What I meant is, you don't (yet) hear Kodak or Polaroid moan and whine about how easy it is to scan

      Why would Kodak or Polaroid moan? They don't take pictures. Content creators certainly do moan - people like Playboy, Corbin, and other stock photography libraries. What you're suggesting is closer to the situation if people like Studer (hardware) and Ampex were complaining about copying (assuming Studer are even still in business - I couldn't tell for sure from a quick search).

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    7. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      Now, the photographer tells me that he owns the copyright on the pictures that he took for me and I can not copy them or do anything with them without his permission.

      Then smack him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. It's a work for hire, and you own the rights, unless you worked out an arrangement otherwise.

      IANAL, but that's my understanding of the applicable law.

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    8. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      Said photographer would be in court because I nor my wife signed model release forms. If that didn't work, I'd break all of his fingers.

      Jaysyn

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    9. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by 3ryon · · Score: 1

      Fantastic summary! I mailed it to some of my less technical friends.

    10. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by MaxGrant · · Score: 2

      Hypothetical question: How the hell will the photographer know his pictures are being copied?

    11. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by treellama · · Score: 1

      > monitors with resolutions of 3000dpi or more

      Damn, that's high-res pr0n.
      I'd settle for 300 dpi (150 is probably enough for photos)

    12. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      Well, in this particular case he gave me a set of "proofs" (3x5 prints) which are each stamped "PROOF" in huge gold letters across the front. In other words, the pictures that I paid for are unusable, unless I pay him additional money for "prints".

      Needless to say, I'm not having any more photographs taken by that guy.

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    13. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to "advertise" for him on your web site. A "what he promised" and "what he delivered" would do far more than merely not using his services again. People like that can not stand publicity, because they rely on having a ready supply of innocents to victimize.

    14. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it's not that simple in real life. Possession being 9/10ths of the law, he has possession of the negatives.

      My options are to either take him to court (which isn't really worth my time) or to continue to be pissed off and tell my friends and so on to stay away from that guy. Guess which option I've chosen.

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    15. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Grape+Shasta · · Score: 1
      Here's the solution: Limit IP laws to extend only to for-profit transactions. What this means is that if I want to do a free download of a book or a song off from a file-sharing service, there's nothing to stop me. However, if I want to buy a nice book for my shelf, or a CD with nice packaging, only the copyright holders can sell that to me. This results in:
      • Ideas and information are free, as they should be.
      • Artists still have a means to make profit, by contracting the rights to sell their content in a package (book, CD, etc).
      • Prices for packaged creative content will drop to reasonable prices. If I can download the latest Dave Matthews songs for free, I'm not going to pay $18 for a CD. But I might pay $3-5 for a nicely packaged CD so I can have the cover art and a high quality original, and also so I can support the band.
      • Yes, this screws with the current system, and means trouble for some companies and artists in the short term, but it makes things better for everyone in the long term. The current IP laws have just been forcibly purchased by the big corporations, they are not inherently "right."
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    16. Re:The RIAA is very misguided by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      heh, I would definatley break his fingers....

      Jaysyn

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  18. MIT John Terminal by ksw2 · · Score: 1
    Ooh! Ooh! I want to be the first one to hax0r an MIT student while he's on the crapper!!

    This opens up a whole new realm of hacktivism... bathroom display defacement.

    Wouldn't that suck, sit down to take a leisurely dump, and suddenly find out that L337mAfiAd00dz 0wNz j00...

  19. On watermarked CDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make a high quality copy through the speaker output and then rip eat. ez enuff.

    1. Re:On watermarked CDs by os2fan · · Score: 2

      Could end up like the bars on the television. Didn't think of that - ha ha ha. :)

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  20. OpenOffice: What's NEW?? by flikx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry, but those open office screenshots look identical to Star Office 5.2 .. the only difference we can see is the title bar.

    Isn't there anything wild and new that would convince me to try out the beta and dump Star Office 5.2??

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  21. This Register Story seems to be bogus by neoangin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The way how the RIAA is set up they could never make explicit comments about specific technologies. They can only make general comments about 'concerns on developments' and potentially use the IFPI to document potential solutions without rating them against each other....
    There is no way that they could have a meeting like that, especially since all of them are lawyers that are very skilled at avoiding anti-trust problematic issues, neither would there be any way that a high-profile execs would join such a 'secret' meeting.
    I mean why did the Register post this? Is it April Fool's day in some bizarre religious calendar?

    1. Re:This Register Story seems to be bogus by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

      They mentioned it was a S E C R E T meeting. Last I checked, things weren't secret if you told people about them, hence you can't issue statements about secret meetings.

      So - if one (or more) of the attending people felt it was rediculous, (s)he could easily have told The Register about it.

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    2. Re:This Register Story seems to be bogus by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2

      This smacks very strangely of the secret "Bilderberg" meetings wherein foreign policy is decided behind locked and very heavily guarded doors without public input or scrutiny. It really is "Us" against "Them".

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  22. I don't want to use CDs. by wbattestilli · · Score: 1

    If the RIAA actually makes CD unrippable, I'm going to be really pissed.

    CDs are bulky, damage easily, are difficult to keep organized and are difficult to search through.

    I just bought a Rio and ripped all of my music (that I leagally own). The CDs are in a closet. If I can't buy a CD, rip it, and put it in the closet, I AM GOING TO BE VERY ANGRY.

    Am I alone in this?

    1. Re:I don't want to use CDs. by funaho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have already ripped most of my ~300 CDs to high-quality MP3. The server is mounted on all my computers around the house, so no matter where I am I can pull up my favorite music.

      I certainly intend to boycott any CDs that have that ridiculous protection on them...not just because I can't MP3 them but because pretty much every CD player I own outside my car stereo (and that is even debatable) is actually a CD-ROM drive and probably won't play the disc anyways.

      I wish the RIAA would wake up and smell the burning plastic. Hell, if I could pay for and download albums on-demand and they were in standard MP3 format I'd buy MORE than I do now, simply because of the convenience factor. Yes, people are going to trade songs no matter what you do; I think the solution is to just make it so CHEAP AND EASY to pay for the music legit that there isn't a whole lot of reason to get pirated copies. Something like emusic.com but with a decent selection.

      You know I really resent the fact that the RIAA and MPAA automatically treats me as a criminal. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? The hundreds of CDs and DVDs in my possession should be ample proof that I'm willing to pay for what I use.

      I just don't know folks. I am really starting to feel like my country has completely sold out.

    2. Re:I don't want to use CDs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      just bought a Rio and ripped all of my music (that I leagally own). The CDs are in a closet. If I can't buy a CD, rip it, and put it in the closet, I AM GOING TO BE VERY ANGRY.

      Am I alone in this?

      No, not at all. I've ripped all my CDs into Ogg Vorbis for the computer (~6.5 gigs) and have put my favorite songs from them into MP3 format on three CDs which I listen to using my Riovolt. All my CDs are now in storage.

      Hell, I don't even have a stand-alone CD player as my computer/CD-R/DVD-ROM system is hooked up to my stereo.

      One thing for sure, if "copy protected" CDs start to become the norm, I will buy less CDs and download/purchase my music from online indy bands and dealers.

  23. the bathroom server by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    must be scrolling messages at an insane rate.

    I am waiting for the thing to hit a continous tone.

    Why doesn't someone at MIT set up a video camera to record everything?

    It would be fun to see the movie on the net as the smoke starts to pore out of the display unit.

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    1. Re:the bathroom server by xmalenko · · Score: 1

      Why doesn't someone at MIT set up a video camera to record everything?

      You do realize this is in a bathroom, right?

    2. Re:the bathroom server by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
      Why doesn't someone at MIT set up a video camera to record everything?

      You do realize this is in a bathroom, right? Hey, they have to pay off their student loans somehow you know.

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    3. Re:the bathroom server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, they pay off the loans by making elephantic audio equipment.

    4. Re:the bathroom server by rewster · · Score: 1

      Why doesn't someone at MIT set up a video camera to record everything?

      You do realize this is in a bathroom, right?

      Hey, they have to pay off their student loans somehow you know.

      yeah, but it is MIT... i dunno about you, but if i want to watch a bunch of geeks, i'll look out in the hall... or in a mirror ;)

    5. Re:the bathroom server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      >Why doesn't someone at MIT set up a video camera to record everything?


      ...and then they can do OCR against screen captures to convert back into text

      There's a fine line between clerver and stupid.

  24. How do you send a message to these DMCA/CPRM clown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only reason the and their ilk is asking for leglislation is there is money in it and it is cheaper to leglislate profit then to provide quality product worth buying.

    In looking to not buy product from the backers of CPRM/DMCA2.....I have come to the conclusion that if I want to use paper and pencil, I can avoid the CPRM/DMCA crowd. In the web page tradition, where is the page of vendors who DON'T support DMCA/CPRM, and have lobbied against this 'crap'

    Once it passes, the only way to make it hurt them is to claim a copyright on all of your property. When AOHell Time Wanker downloads your pages into thier proxy servers, sue them under the DMCA2/CPRM. If they go the route of Germany where there is a 'tax' on media to protect copyright holders....where is your protection for all violations of your copyrights?

    These copyrights are already inforcable. They can sue ANYONE right now. Let them use the laws they alrady have.

  25. Walt Disney is watching you... by alpinist · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Even though I am in Canada, I find this whole snowballing IP situation very disturbing. I frankly don't care about getting an MP3 copy of some copyrighted song. I've been very pleasantly surprised at the quality and sheer quantity of music you can download from artists who actually want you to do so.

    I have pretty much sworn off buying CD's from any record company associated with the RIAA. Movies I almost never go out to see anymore, although I used to, but now I feel my money should not be going to the MPAA who wishes only to destroy entire other industries (ISP's, PC hardware, software) so they don't have to reconfigure their business model to work in the digital age.

    Unfortunately, it seems the entertainment industry is writing the law freely, and consumers are the ones getting the shaft, and people are losing rights, well, left and right. I wonder about the connection between our entertainment-centric society where people are obsessed with celebrities and this power the industry seems to have now to do whatever they please.

    1. Re:Walt Disney is watching you... by SubtleNuance · · Score: 3, Insightful

      consumers have no rights - except those they can afford.

      CITIZENS, who we all are, write the laws and are REALLY in charge.

      Dont accept the 'consumer' label unless you are willing to accept a position of inferiority to SuperMegaCapitalist Company's idea of your 'rights as a consumer'..

      It is a VERY important thing... go read some Chomsky.

    2. Re:Walt Disney is watching you... by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      ...and another thing brother, go read this: http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml#copy_for_friend s

      the canadian copyright act makes it legal for you to copy your friends CDs... or the CDs you take out at the library etc... more Canadians should know - tell your friends :)

    3. Re:Walt Disney is watching you... by mmontour · · Score: 2

      If you're in Canada, please take a look at http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/rp01100e.html.

      The Canadian governemnt has asked for public comments on proposed (DMCA-style) changes to our copyright law. Although the deadline for initial submissions was September 15, you have until October 22 to make comments on those submissions.

      Don't let the Canadian governemnt rubber-stamp the content industry's wishlist! Get your comments in while you can.

  26. Yes She Does by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    AOL/Time Warner was at the meeting...I am sure they would love 80% marktet share.

  27. *=*, phewww by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    We'll never check your sound card for .compliance at ScaredCity?tm?

    But, now that the kingdumb of fud is way in the toilet, maybe you should investigate acquiring this gnu wave set of URLs, including a year's free hosting, by following the simple directions.

    Also, don't forget to check out these face scans of the REAL .commIEs, who are STILL, out on bail.

  28. love it! by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 3, Funny

    The music industry and its hired muscle, the Recording Industry Ass. of America, plans to step up its war against MP3 file sharing and CD ripping with campaigns targeting legal, technological and Internet access fronts, The Register has learned.

    Awesome! Slashdot editors, please be sure to borrow this idea, and refer to the RIAA this way from now on in all your articles!

  29. Is my stereo going to be a circumvention device? by mickeyreznor · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have a stereo which i use to play sound through my computer. I can very easily hit record and put whatever's playing on my computer into a cassette. Then I can use playback on my stereo and use my line-in to put it back into mp3s. Presto! I have just circumvented the RIAA's nifty technology! So how long before owning a stereo be illegal?

  30. Let's see some innovation here. by kawaichan · · Score: 1

    It would be nice to see Star/Open Office offer some innovaitive and compelling features into their package. Until then, I will stick with MS Office for now.

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  31. A screenshot may be worth a 1000 words... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2

    ...but it is not worth a thousand uses. The difference is that the new version of StarOffice has a nicer "feel" to it, can change its look, has no more "desktop", does much better with M$Office files, and defaults to an open, compressed XML format. My suggestion is, try it. If you already have MickeySoft Office you may not want to change, but if you are in need of an office suite you may find it a much better alternative.

    1. Re:A screenshot may be worth a 1000 words... by flikx · · Score: 1

      No no no.. I don't use M$lop office at all, and I am well aware of the new underlying functionality of OO6.0. My point is that screenshots generally show off the new sexy features of an application. These screenshots look like they could have come straight from SO5.2 two years ago.

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  32. Give them some time. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, please don't use the 'I' word. It makes most of us hurl. As for compelling features in OpenOffice/StarOffice there are a couple things going on:

    1. This is the first release of a better modularized StarOffice. A lot of time was wasted in nailing down some of the basics that Star was missing.

    2. There really aren't any "compelling features" left to develop for the basic types of software. I still use M$ Office 97 instead of upgrading to the "new, improved" 2000 or XP versions. And why should I? Do they offer anything over my current software WORTH several hundred dollars? No, not really.

    Sun is really trying to make a commodity of Office apps instead of trying to make them "better". Making them "better" will only result in most people complaining that it isn't the same (ergo the StarDesktop).

  33. Its all about Mjolnir, the subwoofer. by rawg · · Score: 1

    Mjolnir

    There is nothing else more impressive than this.

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    1. Re:Its all about Mjolnir, the subwoofer. by nicko65536 · · Score: 1

      It's even more impressive when you stick your head inside the hole in the front while it's playing "Rammstein - Du Hast" at the highest volume the amp can do without blowing the fuse, tweaked for full bass. Or when you're sitting on it. That's fun stuff.

    2. Re:Its all about Mjolnir, the subwoofer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's also very impressive when the link is 404'ed

  34. Site Mirror Of Huge Screenshots by ekrout · · Score: 3, Informative
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  35. WARNING! Re: upgrade from Soffice 5.2 to 6.0beta by yorgasor · · Score: 4, Informative
    Be careful if you're upgrading from Star Office 5.2 to 6.0 beta. I had my own document directory tree I use, so I found soffice's work directory to be inconvenient. So I did what any logical thinking unix user would do, and created a symlink from within soffice's work directory to my document directory.

    When 6.0beta came along, it asked if I wanted to import my settings from 5.2 into 6.0. Sure, sounds good. It worked great. Until I needed to retrieve my files from my personal doc directory. They were ALL GONE!!! The installer followed my symlink and "accidentally" deleted all my files in my document directory. It left the directories intact, but all the files were GONE!

    Fortunately, I had just made a backup of my system a couple days before, but I still lost a bit of work. !@$#.

    Moral of the story: backup early and often. Moral #2 of the story: beware of using beta software on production machines.

    You can read all the details of my experience on Sun's newsgroup that they collect bugs for star office on. It wasn't pretty.

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  36. CANADIANS: ORGANIZE "COPY PARTIES!" by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2

    In Canada, we collect a levy on CDR media, this allows us the RIGHT as a citizen to make copies of any music CD for our own personal use.

    See more about this here: http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml#copy_for_friend s

    I have been toying with the idea of organizing / promoting a "Come and Copy CDs Day" at University of Windsor or maybe at on of the local Windsor Librarylocations, which does in fact contain a whole PILE of CDs we can now legally copy...

    I believe it is important now to 'get the word out' and snuff out their massive revenue stream...

    Also I believe we should simply order the CDRs online anf FUCK their 'corporate-whore-tax', it would make this otherwise legal event a little more gray, but hey, fuck them.

    This could be seriously fun...

    1. Re:CANADIANS: ORGANIZE "COPY PARTIES!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, no, you are not given the "right". The levy/surtax goes to pay for the minority of the population who violates copyright law, kind of like how your car insurance premium does not give you the "right" to ram into any random person, but goes to pay for all those other people out there with the same insurance having accidents.

    2. Re:CANADIANS: ORGANIZE "COPY PARTIES!" by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      Umm, no, you are not given the "right".

      The Canadian Copyright Act grants citizens permission - a modification to the fiction that is 'copyright' in the first place - to permit this action.

      The Levy goes to the RIAA (and artist groups) on the sale of CDRs.

      Its not a perfect system, but it is better than getting fucked w/ a DMCA.

      Speaking of the Canadaian getting fucked by the DMCA, see here: http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/rp01100e.html

    3. Re:CANADIANS: ORGANIZE "COPY PARTIES!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you don't get it, do you? you don't have the right to copy the library's CDs, or my CDs, if I let you. You have the right to make copies of your own CDs for your own use - which even the DMCA doesn't dispute. If that's what you're referring to, then go right ahead and have your party. Invite everyone to come with their purchased CDs and CD blanks, make copies, and take the CDs and copies home. Nobody will really give a shit. But if I copy your CD and take my copy home, that's illegal in any Berne Convention country.

    4. Re:CANADIANS: ORGANIZE "COPY PARTIES!" by Maxwell · · Score: 1
      Section 80 does not legalize (a) copies made for the use of someone other than the person making the copy; and (b) copies of anything else than sound recordings of musical works. It does legalize making a personal copy of a recording owned by someone else.

      What part, in bold, don't you understand?

      You can't make copies for your friends. but they can make copies themselves using you CD for their own use.

      Next time read the web page, and try to minimize your US-centric arrogance in the future.

      JKL

    5. Re:CANADIANS: ORGANIZE "COPY PARTIES!" by T.+Will+S.+Idea · · Score: 1
      I understand what a drag it can be to actually click on those pesky links that people litter their posts with so I'll sum it up for you: http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml#copy_for_friend s
      Section 80 does not legalize (a) copies made for the use of someone other than the person making the copy; and (b) copies of anything else than sound recordings of musical works. It does legalize making a personal copy of a recording owned by someone else.
      This page doesn't look official or anything but it purports to be quoting Canadian law, and the law doesn't seem to be ambiguous. So the real question is, if I as an American purchase some of these cds (say by mail order) can I then legally make copies of my friends cds in the US?
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    6. Re:CANADIANS: ORGANIZE "COPY PARTIES!" by T.+Will+S.+Idea · · Score: 1
      Umm, no, you are not given the "right".

      Well, based on the link that was given, it would appear that you have exactly that right, in Canada.

      Furthermore, in this article, written about Germany's "collection societies" it is also suggested that the collection of a levy legalizes copying.
      "Some rights holders are not too happy with the levy system," says Bernt Hugenholtz, a University of Amsterdam law professor. "It legitimizes private copying."

      The copyright holders may want to have their cake and eat it too. They may want me to pay for any pirating that may occur and despite those payments, be restricted from making my own copies. But it appears there are dissenting legal opinions on this. In any case, I don't think that the copyright holder's claims have been challenged in court. Please let me know if I am wrong, since that may be the only way that this issue can be resolved in some countries where copying is not clearly legal.
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  37. Jim Hall is high... by SpookComix · · Score: 4, Informative
    "The other day, I downloaded OpenOffice build 628C for Linux and for Windows. I use Red Hat Linux (7.1) at home, and I already use StarOffice (5.2) for my regular office needs. It works great. I think my main complaint with OpenOffice is the silly desktop. Other than that, I consider it a fully functional office suite that can replace my MS Office needs anytime.

    Sheesh. Misinformation abounds about this product! First off, the current build is 638C. That build of OpenOffice contains much of the same base code as the official StarOffice 6 Beta that was released on Oct. 4.

    Let me be bold and italicized for this next one: There is no more integrated desktop. None. It sucked, and everyone knew it, so it's gone. Each component is seperate, with it's own icon (Text Document, Spreadsheet, Presentation, etc.)

    One last thing, because I know it will come up. Previous builds of OpenOffice did not contain a spell check. Before you flame about that, let me mention two things: I just downloaded a build of Mozilla a few weeks ago, and it had no spellcheck either (yet the version of Netscape that used that Mozilla build *did* have a spell check...keep reading). Second, I'm pretty sure this build has a spellchecker in place, or it's right around the corner. Beyond that, if it's not there already, there will be options for different languages (I know German is mentioned often on the discussion list.)

    StarOffice 6 Beta has a spellcheck, because that's one component that Sun owns and did not open source. There are other components in StarOffice that aren't in OpenOffice, but not many.

    Whether you go with StarOffice or OpenOffice, you won't be disappointed. It's an incredible product. It is the product that will allow me to convert my clinic (250+ employees) away from MS Office, which will pave the way for more free (as in speech, and possibly beer) software down the road. I'm very excited about it!

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  38. Hopefully, not another mirage... by carpe_noctem · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As much as I hate to admit it, the one MS product that is pretty good at what it's supposed to do is Word (and to a lesser extent, the other office modules). I think it pretty much goes without saying that Office applications are also the primary thing holding Linux back in the so-called "desktop wars". I can't tell you how many times I hear people around me say, "well, I *would* use Linux, but I need Word docs, PowerPoint, blah blah blah...".
    I have tried using StarOffice on and off again pretty much since it was released to the general public. And each time, it sucks a little bit less. I'm going to give OpenOffice a shot tonight, and if I see a little "start menu" and a fake Windows-ish desktop, it's gonna be curtains. :) Hopefully, it will suck *less* than the latest StarOffice, and then it'll be one substantial victory for Linux users everwhere.

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    1. Re:Hopefully, not another mirage... by NecroPuppy · · Score: 1

      Unless you need to count words... Then you should use some other product. Well, if you're a lawyer, anyway.

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    2. Re:Hopefully, not another mirage... by epsalon · · Score: 1

      Like wc -w ?

    3. Re:Hopefully, not another mirage... by Howie · · Score: 1

      the one MS product that is pretty good at what it's supposed to do is Word (and to a lesser extent, the other office modules).

      I would have said Excel, Access, Word, Outlook was the order(*)... when Word screws up, it really screws up. I'm not a huge Word user, but pretty much everyone I know has something bad to say about Word's pagination and numbering, for instance. Excel and Access I do use a lot, and for the 97 releases, they've never given me problems - don't get me started on Access 2.0 though.

      (*) Luckily I work in an environment where people just talk to each other rather than prepare shiny slides in Powerpoint.

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    4. Re:Hopefully, not another mirage... by ethereal · · Score: 1

      That's nothing - I was in a meeting the other day where a manager was taking notes in Powerpoint. Not preparing a presentation, just taking the minutes of the meeting. He then distributed the minutes as ppt, rather than a perfectly sufficient .txt file. I would have stopped him, but a) he's management and b) I didn't really think anyone would actually do that.

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    5. Re:Hopefully, not another mirage... by glitchvern · · Score: 1

      Word is an absolute piece of shit. Word is THE reason i hate microsoft. Not Windows, I don't have a problem with Windows, but Word is such a piece of shit. What i can't figure out is why. I mean people have been writing quality word processors since dos. And what should dominate the industry but this piece of shit called Word. It's insane. The rest of office is fine. Powerpoint is actually an innovative easy to use quality product, but word, what a piece of shit.

  39. Re:Is my stereo going to be a circumvention device by Skyshadow · · Score: 2
    Screw that, man. Just plug your CD player straight in to the "Mic In" in your sound card.

    I used to do this -- I had a computer with a CD drive that would always fail when I tried to rip for some reason. The sound quality didn't take any noticible hit (well, beyond the hit that all MP3's take, which is barely noticible even on a great system).

    Of course, given that my kid sister could break RIAA-style encrytion, this is hardly an issue. The real danger isn't the technical stop-gap measures, it's the longer term transition of ideas into immutable corporate property.

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  40. Re:WARNING! Re: upgrade from Soffice 5.2 to 6.0bet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moral #0: Read the README file, which said that would happen.

  41. Switch from Office 97? by snilloc · · Score: 1
    As a legit owner and user of Office 97, I have never seen any reason to upgrade to O-2000 or O-XP.

    Are there any compelling reasons to upgrade/sidestep to OO/SO?

    1. Re:Switch from Office 97? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2

      Are there any compelling reasons to upgrade/sidestep to OO/SO?


      10. Open XML formats.
      9. If M$ changes their file formats and SO supports them.
      8. Ability to change interface to your preference of platform style.
      7. Uses less disk space than M$ Office.
      6. Free! Free! Fat Free! (Sorry, saw that on a Spanish freeware program once. Guy apparently didn't know English.)
      5. It runs on Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, MacOSX, etec.
      4. Smaller files due to built in compression.
      3. No more upgrade costs.
      2. No stupid licensing/registration program that trys to shut off your computer.

      And the number one reason to choose StarOffice:

      1. Fight the evil empire!!!

    2. Re:Switch from Office 97? by snilloc · · Score: 1
      Ok, lemme address these one at a time:


      10. Open XML formats.

      Not inherently useful. Cool for playing well with others, but that's not my concern.

      9. If M$ changes their file formats and SO supports them.

      Again, not inherently useful. At this point in time, I don't need to play with others. All documents I create are either printed, or are "dumbed down" to txt, rtf, or html for consumption by others.

      8. Ability to change interface to your preference of platform style.

      Could you elaborate on that - I'm not sure exactly what you mean.

      7. Uses less disk space than M$ Office.

      Cool, but not compelling.

      6. Free! Free! Fat Free! (Sorry, saw that on a Spanish freeware program once. Guy apparently didn't know English.)

      Already own a copy of Office97. It's "free" for me to continue using it.

      5. It runs on Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, MacOSX, etec.

      This is cool, but not enough to make me switch on my primary computer. Soon my linux box will be back up and running, and I will try SO/OO on it.

      4. Smaller files due to built in compression.

      Cool but not compelling.

      3. No more upgrade costs.

      True, but also no upgrade costs if I'm not upgrading at all, which is what has happened. Still running Office 97.

      2. No stupid licensing/registration program that trys to shut off your computer.

      Office 97 doesn't do that. It will probably keep me from moving to XP though.

      And the number one reason to choose StarOffice:

      1. Fight the evil empire!!!

      Continuing to use an old product that I've already paid for doesn't support MS any more or less than using a free office suite.

  42. Wake up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who knows, I may even share it with whoever wants it in a format that I choose.

    Can't do that if the RIAA has its way, cuz you could also do an analogue recording of a CD and "share" it in the same way. There will be no audio path from you to the rest of the World, unless you sign up with a big label. That's what they want.

  43. Green Card Lottery - Last One? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2

    Yeah a whole new channel for sending SPAM

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  44. RIAA,DMCA and all others.... by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 2

    I think ALL of teh Posters have missed an importanr point.These restrictions will be only in the continent of North America(US ,CANADA and Mexico maybe due to NAFTA).

    The reasons:

    1.IN EUROPE:
    The EU takes privacy,customer rights and other little man issues very seriously.Case in point the absolutely tight Personal Data laws.I mean it's ridiculous that in the us a company can *own* YOUR personal information.

    They are also massively anti big company who push their way through.Why?Because the grass roots participation of Europeans is very high and they take deep interesrt in any issue affecting them again in contrast to US.

    Also sice this fight is led by Recording and Movie industry it puts the back up of most anti
    american culture types.

    Lastly,Technology is a very very important economic sector and the EU is unlikely to stifle choices and make protocols proprietary.

    2.Rest of the World:

    Taiwan,India,South Korea are in no mood to bind their tech sectors to some foreign companies' interest.In India any such "appeasing" of foreign companies shall be the death knell of govt.Another important factor is that geeks:) in india enjoy quite an amount of public ear and it's normally assumed that geeks right,Huge Big Corporation greedy pigs....

    3.WTO:

    unlike in the past when anyone displeasing the US could get hit by Super 301.Now of cource there is WTO....Which can and has given rulings against US.
    I would assume that WTO is unlikely to permit such an imposition on other member countries when it shall be opposed by all but US and Canada.

    TO CONCLUDE:

    Even if Americans are unsuccesful in preventing another rape of their constitution,the rest of the world doesnt have much to fear yet....

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    1. Re:RIAA,DMCA and all others.... by Tony-A · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. The "anti-American" sentiment working for Americans. Probably not a first, but ...

  45. Anti-Aliased fons in OpenOffice by dvNull · · Score: 1

    I had posted this before, but when I run the latest builds the fonts appear anti-aliased.

    Here is a shot:
    http://www.dvnull.org/screenshots/shot_oo.jpg

    Same in the other apps as well.

    1. Re:Anti-Aliased fons in OpenOffice by msaavedra · · Score: 2
      when I run the latest builds the fonts appear anti-aliased
      Yeah, I noticed this too. It looks good on the large fonts, as you demonstrated in your screenshot, but the smaller fonts look horrible. They are so blurry that I'm sure I would get a headache from looking at a document for long. Does anyone know if you can turn AA off,just for the smaller fonts if possible? I know that this is possible for Qt and Gtk(with AA add-on) by editing a prefs file. Does OpenOffice use the same method?
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    2. Re:Anti-Aliased fons in OpenOffice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the same file for all (I think): /etc/X11/XftConfig.
      just add something like this to the end:

      match
      any size > 8
      any size 15
      edit
      antialias = false;

      (Don't forget the ; at the end!)
      This will stop X from antialiasing fonts betweeen 8 and 15 point. Adjust the bounds as you wish, restart OpenOffice and *poof* only large and small fonts are antialiased.

  46. Rip, Mix, Burn at the Apple Store by Animats · · Score: 2
    Apple now has a retail outlet on University Avenue in Palo Alto, CA. The place looks like an ego trip for Steve Jobs, who lives nearby, rather than a profitable retail outlet. (The last Apple dealership nearby went bust a few months ago.)

    But that's not the point. Employees were demonstrating the storage and playback of music. That's legally questionable. One can make arguments based on the Audio Home Recording Act for home use, but in a commercial environment, you need ASCAP and BMI licenses, as a minimum. Bars, restaurants, and nightclubs all pay. (Record stores have a special deal.)

    At some point, Apple is going to have to face the RIAA. That should be interesting.

  47. Piracy Ideas by gusnz · · Score: 1

    Everyone knows it... if it can be heard it can be copied.

    Working a line-in jack on a stereo or computer isn't hard. Basically, if you want to stop the problem, you've got to go back to the root issue -- the users themselves versus the bands in question.

    I have a friend who was firmly on Metallica's side during the Lars Ulrich vs. Napster debacle. Why? He respected them as artists, and as a result owns every album they have ever put out.

    This is what the RIAA doesn't get. The bands themselves are the only ones who can convince users not to copy -- or have they forgotten that the bands exist apart from phony marketing images?

    So here's the plan. Every band has a back catalogue of covers, garage recordings, and so on that will probably never get released and are next to worthless commerically. All they have to do is say "From now on, we're monitoring KaZaA/Morpheus/Gnutella/etc, and every fortnight where there's an average of less than XYZ files shared from us, we release new material for you to legally download free of charge".

    Think about it. Dedicated fans, who already respect the band for their abilities, will start to police these file-sharing services for them. Problem halved.

    Does this stand a chance, Slashdot? Ideas?

    1. Re:Piracy Ideas by ksheff · · Score: 2

      This is what the RIAA doesn't get. The bands themselves are the only ones who can convince users not to copy -- or have they forgotten that the bands exist apart from phony marketing images?

      Given the prevalence of corporate fabricated boy bands and lip syncing dancers/models, I'd say they just care about the marketing images and the revenue of the here-today-forgotten-tomorrow music. Their industry financial plans are built on the massive production of crap, so I'd say that they don't give a rat's ass about any real musicians and haven't for years.

      I'm also like your friend. I removed any Metallica mp3s that I had for distribution via napster and have just about every CD they've made. However, that didn't stop me from creating 'disposable' copies of the CDs and having all of the songs on my computer as mp3s. While I value the music, I sure don't want to buy another CD if one gets stolen or damaged. Under the RIAA scheme, if a CD gets stolen or damaged and the record company doesn't create them anymore, I'm screwed unless I can find someone willing to sell me a used copy.

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    2. Re:Piracy Ideas by Plugh · · Score: 1
      All they have to do is say "From now on, we're monitoring KaZaA/Morpheus/Gnutella/etc, and every fortnight where there's an average of less than XYZ files shared from us, we release new material for you to legally download free of charge".
      This is a damn good idea. The above comment should have been modded way up.

  48. Point taken... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 2

    "a format that they choose"

    If you mean the recipients then point taken. What I was trying to say was that it wouldn't be a format dictated by the RIAA.

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    You're using her as bait, Master!

  49. Re:WARNING! Re: upgrade from Soffice 5.2 to 6.0bet by yorgasor · · Score: 1
    Pardon me, there was nothing in the README that said, "Installing this may very well delete all the files you ever held dear to your heart."


    From the response I got on the news feed, they had no idea such a bug existed until I explained how I was able to reproduce it.

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  50. Improve UI of Open Office; Integrate with Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am pleasantly surprised by the functionality of StarOffice/OpenOffice (although I am still trying to figure out why files are saving in a binary *.sxw as opposed to a unicode *.xml file format).

    What I really would like to see is effort expended to make the the UI more intuitive and aesthetically pleasing. Re intuitiveness: why is the URL and stop the first thing on the functionbar. What's with the read only/edit mode button, particularly in third place. Consolidate the function bar with the main toolbar a la Word, Word Perfect and Word Pro. Similar refinement can be made throughout the suite's toolbars. Yes, there's a reason why every office suite has gravitated over 15 years to a similar look and feel and there is no reason for OpenOffice to default to something different! Same with the menu structure.

    Re aesthetics: first, the icons are very primitive--like bargain bin software. If Sun can't borrow several of Apple's HUI gurus, then at least hire Iconfactory to produce 32-bit color icons. Compare MS Office v.X for Mac toolbar icons. They aren't just more visually pleasing, they convey more information to the user. Similarly, polish the dialog box layouts/widgets (which currently have a number of HUI no-nos such as vast amounts of unused panel and layout discrepancies). Constrast, for example, Apple's Aqua HUI guidelines. Or the refinement of MS Word's dialog boxes.

    Additionally, there should be a MS Word "compatibility" setting that presents a similiar toolbar sequence and primary menu structure to MS Office within StarOffice/OpenOffice. This will permit more rapid adoption by MS Office users.

    Finally, figure out how to integrate seamlessly with Mozilla's browser and email, a la MS IE, Outlook, and Word. Then, I can truly ditch MS Office!

  51. Tormenting MIT by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Twelve karma points for the first person to write a Perl script that scrolls a Jon Katz article onto this thing. What better way to teach those MIT geeks that there are some places the Internet just doesn't belong?

    Don't forget the 20 char limit.

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    1. Re:Tormenting MIT by Contact · · Score: 2
      Twelve karma points for the first person to write a Perl script that scrolls a Jon Katz article onto this thing. What better way to teach those MIT geeks that there are some places the Internet just doesn't belong?

      Personally, I'd say the crapper was precisely where Jon Katz articles belong... :)

      (Sorry, couldn't resist...)

  52. Walt Disney is watching them... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 2

    Actually I was thinking it might be more apropos to say that Walt Disney is watching them...and spinning in his grave. I imagine he'd be pretty disgusted at how his creation had been turned into a greedy monster if he were still alive.

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    1. Re:Walt Disney is watching them... by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      Actually I was thinking it might be more apropos to say that Walt Disney is watching them...and spinning in his grave.-----> Eh? I was always under the impression that Walt was a fairly rapacious businessman. He just had good PR!

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  53. Cheaper Solution by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny

    While I have no proof of this other than circumstantial evidence, I believe that IBM hires will work for food people off the street. The deal being minimum wage and all the bran muffins they can eat. They then circulate these people between bathrooms. My only proof of this is that within moments of going into any IBM bathroom to take a dump, someone will come in, choose the stall right next to yours (Doesn't matter if there're six empty ones) and commence with the explosive diarrhea. It definitely makes you want to cut your business short and get the hell out of there, let me tell you...

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  54. My wish by ksheff · · Score: 2

    It's too bad that Rosen, Valenti, the other members of the RIAA, MPAA, and other icons of entertainment industry greed weren't holding their secret meetings on the top floor of the WTC on 9/11. Of course their PR firms would spin it that they died fighting digital terrorism or some other rot. Given their 'Screw other industries and the public' attitude, I certainly wouldn't miss them.

    If they would take even half the money spent on crap legislation and copy protection and used to produce quality art, they wouldn't have a problem making a profit.

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    1. Re:My wish by haruharaharu · · Score: 1

      If they would take even half the money spent on crap legislation and copy protection and used to produce quality art, they wouldn't have a problem making a profit

      They don't have a problem making a profit. They have a problem making an obscene profit.

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    2. Re:My wish by ksheff · · Score: 2

      I know. Even with all the file sharing/piracy (depending on your point of view), they are still making obscene profits. IMHO, it all boils down to greed.

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  55. Re:Do Your Part to Protect America ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..or just get drunk and drive your car into a 7-11.

  56. Quantum unique copy scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know if this would work, but something instinctively makes me believe it would. If information such as copyrighted music was transmitted as quantum streams, wouldn't that make it impossible to copy it? You could move it, but when you tried to copy it, you would invariably change the source. Hmm, well. This would of course maybe make it troublesome to even listen to it, but that's not RIAA's problem, right? They'd only be even happier, I think.

  57. Re:Is my stereo going to be a circumvention device by core_blimey · · Score: 1
    Actually more to the point is Pioneer (and I'm sure others) going to be forced to discontinue there CD-R type devices?

    PDR-W839 3 CD plus CDR-RW player/recorder [www.pioneerelectronics.com]

    PDR-609 Single CD/CDR-RW Player Recorder [www.pioneerelectronics.com]

    So is Pioneer going to be done for circumvention or does it only apply to individuals?

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  58. Last word to SONY by Technician · · Score: 2
    In reply to "Have to buy"

    "Want To Bet?" You forgot something important - The consumer has a vote. I'm going to whoever has good material that meets my needs. If the market goes dry, I'll work from sheet music, cd's, LP's, casettes, DVD's and reel to reel tape already collected. I don't have to have new music every year. If you choose not to meet that market, you loose as a supplier. Are you ready to cut yourself out of the market by closing the market? Have you noticed the market of USED? Goodwill gets $5 per CD. Used DVD's are $10 and up. Right of first sale is alive! If you cripple new material, existing material will only go up in value.

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  59. Sound Cards by Detritus · · Score: 2

    I use ADC/DAC I/O cards to digitize ionospheric sounder data recorded on analog tapes so that it can be processed on a computer. Many people use these cards to log data from experiments and to monitor and control industrial processes. These are not "sound cards" but it would be trivial to configure one to behave like a simple sound card. Is the RIAA going to demand that all ADC/DAC I/O cards contain copy protection circuits? Sorry about that oil refinery blowing up, the I/O card shut down after it falsely detected a copy protection watermark in the signal from the cat cracker pressure sensor.

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    1. Re:Sound Cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      demand that all ADC/DAC I/O cards contain copy protection circuits?

      No, of course not.

      Copy-protection free cards will be available at artifically elevated cost and only after you sign a draconian license agreement in which promise them they can have your head if your card is used to copy protected media.

  60. When is Ms. Rosen going to understand by GreyFauk · · Score: 1

    that if you can hear it... you can rip it.
    I know people that make VERY high quality MP3's
    of all their music cd's on computers that DON'T
    have cd-rom drives. Duh!

    Never underestimate the stupidity of your average
    government.

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    1. Re:When is Ms. Rosen going to understand by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2

      Not so fast. If you can hear it, you can also detect a watermark in it, and that's what the RIAA is hoping to require soundcard manufacturers to do. Imagine wiring up your sound card to record from line in, hitting the record button and getting a dialog box saying you can't record what's coming over the wire due to the presence of a copyright watermark. That's what they're aiming for.

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  61. Depression is the realization by GreyFauk · · Score: 2, Funny

    that 90% of the typing public actually NEEDS
    a friggin spell check option.

    What the hell do you people do with your brains...
    Sit on them??

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  62. Did it ever occur to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That it may just have been a typo?

    Yes it is just one point, but it may not intentionally be his fault. So dont bite his arm off too much.

  63. usenet archives by pacew · · Score: 1

    I have disks 1-31 & I wrote to groups-support@google.com twice, but never received a reponse.

    1. Re:usenet archives by Sweetwind · · Score: 1

      Question: Do the CDs really "complete" the archive of Usenet? If disk #6 starts with March 1992 (as the Google page says), do the first five CDs really contain EVERYTHING from pre-1992?

      I have some printouts of some HILARIOUS posts from 1989 (Joe Joe Francis, where are you now?) and I would love to know that this wit is not lost to the world.

  64. Google shirt by fleener · · Score: 2

    I imagine the /. crowd would be more impressed with some sort of custom t-shirt, but there you go..."

    Forget about it. I was promised a Google shirt, but was never sent one. I tipped them to a number of usability problems with Google, from the logo not linking to their front page, to the << span pages >> arrows jumping you 10 pages at a time instead of the implied 1. Oh well.

  65. Now you've stumbled on it! by dave-fu · · Score: 1

    It's been said that justice is equal, but the rich can afford more of it.
    When it comes to lawsuits, The Big Guy can win by default because cases are too expensive.
    With DVD players, you're at the will of that pesky CSS when it comes to playing foreign flicks... unless you can afford otherwise. Ditto for Macrovision, etc.
    It's still the case, but knowledge is quickly becoming the new currency: a little know-how replaces the money the average jane needs to run an end route.
    The only question you have to ask yourself is... would the MPAA/RIAA put lives and other industries at risk with myopic legislation designed to artificially protect their bottom line?

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    This comment has been submitted already, 276865 hours , 59 minutes ago. No need to try again.
  66. Thoughts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OpenOffice/StarOffice/Bob's 5x5 Cubicle Office. Last time I used any of them, they sucked. That was a long time ago though. VI is nice. But it doesn't cut it for some things, I'll have to fiddle with OpenOffice now. Thanks, another thing to add to my list of cruft to install. ;)

    Archives. Yes, now we can see years of "Make Money Now!" "Lose Weight Now - Ask Me How!", and of course, "Thirty Asian Grrls in One Day!" ads. On the plus side, someone, somewhere, might be able to find a useful post about the merits of 1mb VGA cards.

    RIAA. (I'll rant on the MPAA too.) Feh, let them scream all they want - the entertainment industry vs. the hardware industry, should be quite a show. My guess is that the hardware industry won't fold as easy, and will be lobbying our good representatives just as much. Besides, all we need is a good old fashioned red scare, and we could have Rosen exiled - after all, she's trying to directly harm a vital economic industry in this time of crisis. Sounds a bit fishy to me. ;)

    Anyway, people whining about boycotts. I still buy the occasional DVD. Like Enemy at the Gates. Some movies are too good to be sacrificed for any cause. I don't buy anywhere near the amount of crap I used to - maybe one DVD every three months now (I was going crazy buying back in the day.) CD's? Heh. I listen to what I have, or I purchase things not of the major record labels. I expect to get flamed, but, hey, I'm doing more than most, so, to quote a random moron from EverQuest, 'stfu n00b'.

    ZZZ Online. I have too many sites to visit already, such as newgrounds.com, with their hillarious Mr. T vs. bin Laden flash. If you haven't seen it - go now.

    Bathroom Computers. This is perfect, now I can be a more efficient EverCrack cleric. I can now go to the bathroom without worrying that my tank will get an idiodic idea in his head that he should pull four reds while the cleric's afk. ;)

    Not to mention the code productivity. It'll bring a new meaning to the words, "I'm dumping core."

    I forsee great things for this bathroom computer. Invest today!

    (Something is wrong here. I'm out of coffee.)

  67. truths and fictions by nanojath · · Score: 1
    Although I'm a little disturbed to see people reproducing these industry exec "quotes" as if they were undeniably real (I don't find phrases like "sources close to the..." to be particularly convincing somehow), the "grain of salt"/conspiracy theory aspect of this article shouldn't blind us to the fact that this is unquestionably the kind of world the Content Kings want - the tail of intellectual property rights wags the dog of telecommunications and these fuckers basically end up dictating the standards of FTP so they can protect their property. Watermarking and similar technologies are just a means to the end of reaching the conclusion that it is simply too dangerous to give consumers a copy of anything - so hey presto, it's all pay per play, and you have to take up the approved proprietary hole so that the government-certified spyware can make sure you aren't enjoying forbidden upload. Company network, company song, playing on the company software on the company computer. D'you think it'll be more or less versatile? Looked for RCA in-out jacks on the back of a new boombox lately?


    I say this every time one of these stories come out, there is no avoiding this crummy future without an organized resistance in the form of unencumbered digital content, consisting of material specifically created for the purpose of presenting an alternative by artists dedicated to empowering themselves and consumers against this limiting and innefficient model of distribution.


    If anyone is REALLY interested in discussing alternatives for musicians and consumers please drop me a line. I'm thinking of publishing some thoughts and maybe even organizing/presenting ideas for getting real about fighting the content kings.

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    It Is the Nature of Information to Transgress Artificial Boundaries

  68. Re:Do Your Part to Protect America ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    There are three levels of ignorance. The shallowest, most easily corrected, is "adult" ignorance, or simple lack of knowledge. One displaying adult ignorance can be easily corrected by a simple statement of the facts. The adult is invited to examine reality, which is done with a gracious thank you, and life moves on.


    The intermediate level of ignorance is the "adolescent." Here we have lack of knowledge compounded by lack of motivation to learn. The adolescent does not know the truth of facts, and lacks the fundamental motivation to discover them. They can be placed in front of him and he will grudgingly accept their existence, but otherwise he forges onward in his ignorance, somewhat blissful and innocent. The adolescent can fall either forward into adult ignorance, or backward into the deep stage, the fatal stage of ignorance.

    This is "infantile" ignorance. The ignorant infant is unaware of reality, and flat-out refuses to accept evidence of his error or lack of knowledge. In a five-year-old child, infantile ignorance is "cute." The child refuses to believe that the world more complex than his on-the-spot interpretation, and objects outside of his perspective are not real, and therefore need not be considered. It is innocence and this is endearing, for it reminds us of when the world was simple and cast in shades black and white.

    An adult who displays infantile ignorance is disgusting in the same way as an adult who has shit his pants. Bigotry and prejudice are two examples of infantile ignorance; the unrepentant refusal to be shown the truth or reality of facts regarding one's world. In an adult there is no innocent excuse for it; it's wilful and deliberate behavior. There's nothing to be done about the adult who displays infantile ignorance except to send them back to the "kid's table" to eat their meal, play with their feces, and drool on themselves. You cannot engage in adult conversation about important matters with the wilfully ignorant. There's a reason the term "like arguing with a four-year-old" was invented, and a reason it is a metaphor for futility.

  69. Typo correction by mhimber · · Score: 0

    it should be 'any size < 15' not 'any size 15'.

  70. Like game music? Like electronica? by festers · · Score: 1

    Then you need to check out Overclocked ReMix. There are some excellent game remixes available. Right now the downloads are limited to certain hours (bandwidth issues) unless you use a mirror. It's really cool to hear how creative people can be with the old game tunes you grew up playing.

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  71. RIAA - Forget Something? by fallen1 · · Score: 1
    I know this might be a truly unique idea, or a completely dumb one, but with a lot of radio stations broadcasting digital quality music if you have a clear feed and a good stereo what is stop me from copying to tape (or line-in to a computer and copying to disc/mp3) any song I can pick up - FOR FREE - on the airwaves?

    What's next, make it illegal for the radio stations to play a complete song without interrupting it for the RIAA Copy-Protected Speech? "...today's Tom Sawyer, mean, mean stri.. we interrupt this classic song to inform you pirating this is against the RIAA. We now return you to the song in play.. today's.."

    The sheer stupidity of the parties involved makes it clear they have lost touch with reality and only care about ripping.. er, reaping the profits from their artist :-p I give it no chance of really passing muster .. but I'll still contact my congressional reps.

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  72. On a serious note by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    Not your stereo, but your sound card.

    From the article:
    According to Rosen, there are a number of tactics the RIAA will employ. First, she says, "we are working with sound card manufacturers to implement technology that will block the recording of watermarked content in both digital and analogue form".

    Note that last part - analog. That translates as: plugging your stereo into your sound card. Or even, presumably, holding a mic up to your speakers. Fortunately we already have sound cards that don't give a crap about watermarks, right?

    That will nobble attempts to rip and distribute encoded material, but what about existing files and CDs? Step forward PC manufacturers, whose help the RIAA hopes to recruit to "find ways to block the spread of legacy content".

    Still laughing?

  73. My fellow Americans by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    This will be a long war, and a hard war. It will be a different kind of war than many of you are used to. But I know the American People are ready, and have the resolve to stamp out music sharing, and those countries that harbor music sharers. Make no mistake, we'll smoke 'em out.

  74. My bad by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1
    Let me be bold and italicized for this next one: There is no more integrated desktop. None. It sucked, and everyone knew it, so it's gone. Each component is seperate, with it's own icon (Text Document, Spreadsheet, Presentation, etc.)

    Oops. That's my bad. It is a typo: I meant to say "I think my main complaint with StarOffice5.2 is the silly desktop." Yes, the silly desktop has gone away in OpenOffice, and for that I am grateful. Sorry 'bout that. I'm updating the page now.

    Guess I picked a bad day to quit amphetamines! :)

  75. You have to realize... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2

    ...that the list was constructed in good humor. As I stated before, SO may not give you enough reason to change if you do already have Office97. However, the market will eventually force people to change and then they must decide between SO and M$O. These reasons merely shed light on why one might want to upgrade to SO instead of continuing the M$ tradition.

    8. Ability to change interface to your preference of platform style.

    Could you elaborate on that - I'm not sure exactly what you mean.


    Sure. What I mean is that StarOffice has an option to look like Window, Motif or Aqua. Once again, a cool feature but not compelling in of itself.

    1. Re:You have to realize... by snilloc · · Score: 1

      I knew the list was intended to have an element of humor, but I was attempting to ask a serious question, so I figured I'd take my karmic chances and reply anyway. Thanks for responding. I'll probably need to switch to SO in a few years... but not right now.