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MST3K "Manos" Arrives on DVD

malicioususer writes "According to this page the legendary MST3K episode "Manos: Hands of Fate" appears on DVD November 20th. If you can bring yourself to endure only one MST3K, this is the one." A great present for anyone you want to punish this christmas ;)

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  1. MST3k by JohnnyKnoxville · · Score: 2, Funny

    EEGAH!

    1. Re:mst3k by tomblackwell · · Score: 3, Funny

      The next version of the slashcode software will automatically remove all vowels from words. It will also turn any phrase that it's ever seen before into an acronym.

      The slashdot readership will love it. Apparently superfluous letters anger them.

    2. Re:MST3K by connorbd · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're just asking for DEEP HURTING.

      Trying to think of where it was that I read some history of Manos and it turned out to be an unfinished derelict wreck of a movie that someone thought they could resurrect...

      I think I need this DVD, though.

      /Brian

    3. Re:MST3K by nomadic · · Score: 2, Funny

      The only reason the movie doesn't destroy your mind is that Joel and the bots hurl a steady stream of abuse at it. Without their commentary, your head would fill up with evil and explode.

    4. Re:MST3K by GreaterThanZero · · Score: 2, Informative

      The writers/performers have said that they watch each movie they riff about 8 or 9 times. And they have consistently told the fans that after taping an episode, any memory of the movie is conveniently erased from their memories. They have a theory that it's their brains' way of protecting the writers/performers from deep, deep trauma that would make even Freud squirm.

    5. Re:mst3k by Fjord · · Score: 5, Funny

      IANAL, but according to the /. TOS, we're SOL. It should be O.K., IMHO, since by reading the FAQ you should be able to get most of them p.d.q.

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      -no broken link
    6. Re:MST3K by Robotech_Master · · Score: 2

      I had heard that on at least some MST3K DVDs, they did exactly that--you could choose to watch the movie with the bots overlaid onto it, or you could choose to watch it "straight".

      Do they not do this anymore?

      --
      Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
  2. The real question is... by felipeal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know that movie is considered bad, but is it worse than Battlefield Earth?

    1. Re:The real question is... by coyote-san · · Score: 3

      The current ratings have Manos in the large block tied for second... but it has almost 3000 votes - 10 times more than the "winner," and over three times more votes than any of its peers.

      It even has close to a thousand more votes than _Police Academy: Mission to Moscow_, the movie with the second most votes.

      That has to count for something. Any bad movie can get negative votes, but it takes a really bad movie to get 50% more negative votes than a _Police Academy_ movie!

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      For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -- H L Mencken
    2. Re:The real question is... by coyote-san · · Score: 2

      One other oddity - 9.8% of the votes rank it 10 (excellent), 81.4% rank it 1 (awful). The "winner" has 13.1% ranking it 10, 64.4% rank it 1 (awful).

      That means 186 people gave the "winner" a 1, vs. 2391 for Manos.

      What more proof do you need? 97.3% of statistics lie!

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      For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -- H L Mencken
    3. Re:The real question is... by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      Meet the Feebles was the second film made by Peter Jackson (director of Lord of the Rings). One of the writers, Fran Walsh, also co-wrote the Lord of the Rings adaption with Jackson. But Meet the Feebles is not Jackson's goriest. You'll be wanting to check out Braindead (aka Dead Alive in the US). IMDB's user comments tell the story: "Overall I give this cinematic masterpiece the highest review, me throwing up in the bathroom afterwards from absolute disgust."

    4. Re:The real question is... by Glytch · · Score: 2

      Are you nuts? Dead Alive was amazing! I laughed my ass off all the way through it.

    5. Re:The real question is... by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      Oh, I liked it. Right from the rabid monkey. We had quite a few people leaving the theatre though.

    6. Re:The real question is... by zombieking · · Score: 2

      The humor comes from the fact thats its just so god damn boring you want to shoot yourself.

      Which is why this is perfect material for one of the best MST3K episodes. Ever.

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    7. Re:The real question is... by Grab · · Score: 2

      Come off it! Kermit the Frog as a junkie, Miss Piggie starring in porn flicks... Where else would you get that?

      Grab.

    8. Re:The real question is... by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      I saw it in New Zealand in it's full uncut glory. Apparently the UK and Australian versions were also uncut.

  3. in case it gets /. 'ed by ath0mic · · Score: 2, Informative

    Manos - Hands Of Fate - Mystery Science Theater 3000
    While on vacation, a couple and their young daughter end up at the lodge of goatman Torgo, the assistant to "The Master."
    Torgo and Master operate a bed and cult-fest, complete with satanic rituals in the backyard.
    This movie is like watching a train wreck -- you can't bear to look but you can't turn away.
    DVD version includes Poopie, the official MST3K blooper reel.

    [127 MIN.; COLOR; NOT RATED]

  4. MST3K by mr_Spook · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hooah! Love MST3K here, good to see this happening.

    Though, one thing that would be amusing is if they put Joel and the 'bots on a commentary track so you could watch the movie without...

    ...no wait, bad idea. I'll shut up.

  5. That reminds me... by Null_Packet · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    This might be a *little* offtopic, but are there any plans to post a Geek's Wishlist for this year? There have been some great submissions in years' past, and I think we'd all love to see them.

    NP

    1. Re:That reminds me... by Skyshadow · · Score: 2, Funny
      Ever since that year right after the IPO when ESR posted the list demanding items such as "a solid gold toilet", "bigger fireplace to burn stacks of $100 bills", "private Lear jet (w. heatseaking missiles)" and "hot tub filled with Dom Peringon", I stopped paying attention to the wish lists.

      j/k -- that would be nice to see, eh? I wouldn't think it's too late; most people don't buy the bulk of their xmas gifts until after Thanksgiving.

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  6. Yeah! by cluening · · Score: 5, Funny

    This movie was so, uh, good that I named my Handspring Visor after it. Yup, its name is "Manos, the Handspring of Fate".

    What, did you think I had named it Torgo?

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    Posted from the wireless couch.
  7. Sweet by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anything with "goatman Torgo" and Satanic rituals can't be all bad. And for only 20 bucks!

    Reviews here and here.

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  8. MST3K targets by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 5, Funny

    What I want to see MST3Ked are "Independence Day" (Oh, so nobody fleeing alien invaders is prepared to drive on the wrong side of the freeway?) and "Deep Impact" (We made underground accomodation for 2 million people in a few months - and kept it a complete secret. We just painted 100,000 workers and 10,000 trucks camoflage green so the press wouldn't see them.)

    I doubt they could afford the rights to do this, however.

    --
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    1. Re:MST3K targets by connorbd · · Score: 2

      Battlefield Earth, maybe? (Okay, you can only come up with so many E-meter jokes, and you need at least fifty of them for any given Travolta movie...)

      /Brian

    2. Re:MST3K targets by MindStalker · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well you know the DVD of GhostBusters has a MST3K "feature" its really awesome! I think they could easily reach deals with many distrubution companies to make MST3K versions of popular movies, But so far that is the only one that I know of.

    3. Re:MST3K targets by Skyshadow · · Score: 2
      My girlfriend and I were actually talking about this over dinner on Saturday. We figured that the MST3k folks could do a commentary channel on the DVD release of even decent movies.

      I figure the biggest issue would be that you wouldn't have the heads or the clips before/after the commercials (some of the funniest stuff is the movement of the heads in front of the screen, etc). Can you do a digital overlay?

      I also think that a pop-up video style factoid feature would be great with a lot of movies. Imagine how much interesting stuff you could come up with.

      Of course, the real question is: Would directors and studios be willing to have their own movies subjected to the ribbing they would take from either of these formats? Probably not.

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    4. Re:MST3K targets by Dredd13 · · Score: 2
      I figure the biggest issue would be that you wouldn't have the heads or the clips before/after the commercials (some of the funniest stuff is the movement of the heads in front of the screen, etc). Can you do a digital overlay?

      Yes, you can, the Ghostbusters DVD did this for its directors' commentary and it is TOO funny....

    5. Re:MST3K targets by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      That's a great idea -- and yet another shining example of great innovation that the DMCA outlaws.

      If you really want to push this idea, post it to the mailing lists of the most popular Free media players.

    6. Re:MST3K targets by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 2
      "That's a great idea -- and yet another shining example of great innovation that the DMCA outlaws."

      It does? I'm curious as to how the DMCA would prevent you from playing a second video/audio stream on top of video/audio being played from a legitimately owned DVD. I've yet to hear people claim that similar technologies (such as PIP or a regular partial on-screen menu/overlay generated by a cable box, Tivo, or DVD player) are illegal under the DMCA.

      If you've got a legitimate reason why it would violate the DMCA, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, I fear you're buying in to the over-villification of the DMCA that's been so prevalent on Slashdot lately. I hate the DMCA too, but there's only so many jokes people can make along the lines of "my brain is a circumvention device because I can remember movies" before it gets painfully stupid. And being painfully stupid isn't the sort of thing that'll win you credibility when you're trying to argue against a law.

    7. Re:MST3K targets by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      If you want to make this happen, you need to write an enhancement to a media player. The only ones that i know of which you can do this with are open-source, which means they can't legally license the DVD decryption algorithms. So they have to reverse-engineer the DVD decryption code, which is illegal under the DMCA.

    8. Re:MST3K targets by camusflage · · Score: 2

      What I want to see MST3Ked are "Independence Day"

      Yanno, MST3K ruined me. Now, I sit and make comments more than I ever did before it...

      Remember when, in ID, the president said, "We will not go quietly into the night! We will not go down without a fight!"? I always say "I will not eat them, Sam I am. I will not eat, green eggs and ham."

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    9. Re:MST3K targets by Geeky+Frignit · · Score: 2

      That was the only thing that made this movie enjoyable. The fact that me and my friends made fun of it through the entire thing.

      That scene where all the aliens are sitting around drinking, the moment they cut to it, my friends and I simultaneously broke into the Star Wars Canteena song.

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    10. Re:MST3K targets by TrinSF · · Score: 3, Funny
      MST3K had ruined my son, before he even hit kindergarten, I kid you not.

      He was a big fan of the Comedy Central showings and would beg to watch them daily. I didn't realize how much it had affected him at the time.

      One weekend, my spouse was a GOH at a small con. My son got his own 'handler', a child care person in charge of keeping him entertained during panels. She asked for permission to screen Jurassic Park for my son in the private movie theatre at the hotel. He'd never seen the film because of our concerns about its violence, but I reluctantly agreed.

      I went to check on him at some point and found him sitting with his handler in the theatre *heckling* the film, a la Joel and the bots. At the moment I walked in, a velociraptor was stalking the child stars on screen, while my son crooned, "Here, dinner dinner dinner! Here boy!" and "Mmmmm! I smell pasta with MEAT sauce!"

      He was five at the time.

    11. Re:MST3K targets by cowboy+junkie · · Score: 2
      This isn't a MST3K-type commentary where they make fun of the movie - it's the director (Ivan Reitman), writer/co-star (Harold Ramis), and a producer just talking about the movie as usual. Men in Black has a similar visual commentary track with Tommy Lee Jones and Barry Sonnenfeld. While certainly an homage to MST3K, in neither track do I see any of the participants getting up to do 'funny things' visually like MST3K did, either.

      Among my favorites:

      • Joel getting up and running along the highway in Warrior of the Lost World.
      • Joel opening an umbrella to cover a nude scene in City Limits.
      • Timmy (the dark,evil Crow) coming in from the side of theater and slowly (over the course of minutes) sneaking over to attack Tom Servo.
    12. Re:MST3K targets by Myddrin · · Score: 2

      "Muppets In Space" has this feature too. Kermit, Rizzo, Gonzo The Great and the director discuss the film, and some "behind the scenes facts" (mostly made up).

      I thought it was very funny... but I'm a sucker for anything with Gonzo The Great.

      --
      Myddrin
    13. Re:MST3K targets by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      Technology like Microsoft's Secure Audio Path (and the video equivalent) keep the data encrypted from the point of download or purchase all the way through to the speakers or monitor. You cannot write your own driver -- hardware and software overlays are out of the question. And i've been programming long enough to know that a high-level hack based on watching the application window and somehow determining what point in the movie you're on would have horrid sync issues and be terribly flaky.

    14. Re:MST3K targets by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 2
      "The only ones that i know of which you can do this with are open-source, which means they can't legally license the DVD decryption algorithms."

      Right, but that's a problem with John Q. Programmer developing his own system. A commercial entity that's already legally able to create a DVD player can create a player capable of doing the overlay system. There was a relatively recent Slashdot story about a programmable DVD player designed to allow the end-user to download/run scripts that edit the content of a DVD to remove objectionable content. It's possible that a DVD player manufacturer could expand this idea to support the overlay mechanism necessary for an MST3K idea to work.

      Still, I'm willing to concede that the DMCA does interfere with some solutions that would make this project easy, but plenty of alternatives exist and I do believe the original poster severely overstated the DMCA's impact in this case.

    15. Re:MST3K targets by revscat · · Score: 2

      Y'know, the only reason we SAW that movie was so that we could play Joel & friends after smoking a fattie. Unfortunately, the movie was so astoundingly atrocious that our powers of mockery were beaten into submission. Furthermore it was a tremendous buzzkill.

      I mean, there were points during that movie where the only appropriate response was to cry a river. Hardly MST3K worthy. It was that bad.

    16. Re:MST3K targets by revscat · · Score: 2

      I have a son that is two. I can only hope that I will be as upstanding a father as you have been. If my son is clever enough to make astute jokes at Spielberg films, I think I'll be proud.

      No sarcasm. Totally serious. Brah-vo.

    17. Re:MST3K targets by geekoid · · Score: 2

      two words:Star Wars

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    18. Re:MST3K targets by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      Then the user clicks Pause and everything breaks.

      Are you trolling?

  9. Re:MST3K targets -- Star Wars!! by Quazi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hell, I'd like to see what they'd do to a move we've all see a zillion times (and probably made fun of already!) -- Star Wars (episode 1 would be great!), Titanic, Gladiator, Fight Club..

    The so-called good movies can be just as fun to ridicule as the really bad ones!

  10. Only one? by GreaterThanZero · · Score: 3, Funny

    Gah...if Manos was the only episode of MST3K I had watched, I'd be dead right now. My whole world view changed. I saw evil in its purest fertilizer-salesman form. I dread the day when my friends finally make me show them the episode...cuz yeah, I do own it. I've protected them this long from the horror. I'm going to miss those friends.

  11. MST3K: The Movie by Mr.+Pibb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is already out on DVD. I'm not going to plug any retalier specifically, but I'm sure you can pick it up cheaply (I think I spent 8.99). The video quality is nice, though they did cut out a huge chunk of This Island Earth, some of which was pretty crucial (why did they try to leave the camp? you'll never know if you see their edit).
    see this for the IMDb page.

    1. Re:MST3K: The Movie by guinsu · · Score: 2

      The movie is actually out of print on DVD (but not VHS). Its still finable used at half.com sometimes.

  12. There are only so many times... by greebly · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...I can stand to hear TomServo say, "Manos, the hands of fate" before I go stark raving mad!

    This is, I believe, the only MST3K wherein "Buffy & Hildegard" actually apologize to Joel and co. about the quality of the film. I can't imagine punishing myself by having it in my collection...

    Well, maybe I can.

    --
    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
  13. Yay Mike! or Joel... by aratuk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you liked MST3K when it was running, you should check out Edward The Less, an "online series" with the same writers and actors.
    You should also check in on this MST3K tape-trading site from time-to-time. It's still under construction, but it'll be cool when they finish it.

  14. Star Wars:The Phantom Menace by wiredog · · Score: 2

    Just imagine what they can do with Jar-Jar...

    1. Re:Star Wars:The Phantom Menace by Legion303 · · Score: 2
      Just imagine what they can do with Jar-Jar...

      Tear him limb from limb in an orgy of violence?

      Oh, wait, you meant in the way of satirical commentary, didn't you? Well, that could work too...I guess....

      -Legion

  15. More Than One Episode PLEASE by lostindenver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know I would be willing to pay. But I wish that when these type of shows are realeased that they would put a Season or two on One DVD. Then I could sit on the couch and ignore /. for a little longer. I REALLY WISH that they would do this with farscape. Besides what a waste of storage space.

  16. For those who care... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Mitchell" is also available, according to amazon.com.

    - A.P.

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  17. Get PreView by bstadil · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those without Cable, outside the US or anyone else that haven't got a clue what this is. You can get a PreView using Morpheus or KaZaA. There is lots of MST3K floating around. Remember to buy the DVD if you like it.

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  18. And for those of you who don't know spanish... by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Manos is the Spanish word for hands. That's right. The title actually *means* "Hands: The Hands of Fate". Trust me, the title is just as brilliant as the plot. But nothing can beat a Torgo screen saver!

  19. not a big fan by minusthink · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not a big fan of MST3k. I would really like it except for those idiots at the bottom of the screen and make fun of the movie. It really gets on my nerves.

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    "when life gets complicated, I like to take a nap in a tree and wait for dinner" - Hobbes.
  20. I'm going to be sick! by 6EQUJ5 · · Score: 2


    They've taken a movie that should have remained forever obscure and forgotten, and made it almost... popular. At least the some of the MST movies (like Godzilla and Hercules) have a campy retro value... Manos, however, is just a nightmare - and now it's on DVD!!

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  21. Re:something cool by Cutriss · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I want to see "Leave the Bronx"...added extras could include a 19-minute extended hardcore remix of Tom Servo's rendition of the credits music, backed up by some aging former punk-hardcore rocker...Flea should do nicely... :D

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  22. Amazon has it listed allready by inio · · Score: 2

    Get it here. Or for the goataphobic: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005S8L6

  23. Svengoolie still rules. by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2, Informative
    For us Chicagoans, we still revel in Svengoolie, a.k.a. Son of Svengoolie, a.k.a. Rich Koz. Sven was doing Svensurround sound before MST3K. WHen I was a young-un, you'd waste many a Saturday watching really bad horror movies just because he was hosting. My fave - Sorority Babes In The Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama. He also had all of Chicago buying stupid 3D glasses (the kind that split by red/blue) just to see Swamp Thing in Sven 3D. Plus, he has rubber chickens.

    Berrrrrr-wynnnnnn. Buy me a T-shirt will ya?

  24. That bad? by steveha · · Score: 2

    I think someone told me that there was one episode of MST3K where the movie was so bad the Bots broke down; they were reduced to sobbing, unable to continue hurling sarcastic abuse, because the movie was just too bad... and Joel shouted at the mad scientists "Look what you've done!" and the mads looked ashamed. Was that this movie, some other one, or am I just confused?

    steveha

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    1. Re:That bad? by K8Fan · · Score: 2

      It was...it was..."MANOS: The Hands Of Fate". Not actually that enjoyable a MST3k, it was more of a legendarily bad movie. Most MST3K episodes are more funny and a lot more watchable.

      --
      "How perfectly Goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure" Charles Crumb
    2. Re:That bad? by British · · Score: 2

      It was one of the FU Manchu movies. Curse of.. it might have been.

      It was so bad Joel and the Bots copped out on their jokes, and the mads actually gave each other a high-five for their film choice.

  25. Production Info by Detritus · · Score: 5, Funny

    See The Hand That Time Forgot by Richard Brandt for some interesting background information on the production of this film.

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  26. They chose well... by 90XDoubleSide · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone else notice how many of the IMDB's 100 Worst Films have been on MST3K? Of course many of them are probably there because MST3K has gotten the required 20 people to watch them. Manos: the Hands of Fate is #2 ;)

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    1. Re:They chose well... by miracle69 · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry, but the IMDB's 100 worst films doesn't include Robot Jox or its sequel (which I had the foresight not to see).

      Perhaps it's because only 19 people have seen it, but man, I have never ever seen a movie worse than that. Hell, it made Dolf Lundgren in _The Punisher_ look like Al Pacino.

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  27. For those (ashamedly) unfamiliar with MST3k... by Christopher+Whitt · · Score: 5, Informative
    like me, and too lazy to hit Google:

    From IMdB's MST3k page, by

    The show is about a guy, named Mike Nelson, who is stuck up in space with his robot companions, and they have to endure bad movie after bad movie. That's all that you have to know to get started. The whole plot is confusing if I try to get you up to speed in the next few lines, but trust me, this is a show you cannot afford to miss.

    and on the same site by Joe Pranevich {knight@wave.lm.com}

    In the not too distant future (next Sunday, A.D.) Joel Robinson was under the employ of one Dr. Clayton Forrester. By trapping Joel in space and sending him bad movies, Dr. Forrester and his assistants (such as TV's Frank) attempted to determine the movie that, when inflicted on the masses, would cause insanity and he could control the world. To combat this, Joel invented several robots to keep him company and to heckle the movies mercilessly to ensure his sanity. After several years, Joel escaped to be replaced by Mike Neslon, a temp worker without a clue. After Mike and the bots were turned into omniscient energy beings, they returned to the Satellite of Love (their ship) in the future and were confronted with new adversaries including Pearl Forrester (Dr. Forrester's cryo-frozen mother), Professor Bobo (an ape), and Observer (a super-intelligent alien that carries his brain in a bowl).


    If you want more detail read the basics about MST3k. An excerpt: Although the details of its premise have changed radically over its 11-year history, Mystery Science Theater 3000 has always been about one thing: making fun of bad movies.

    The official show website is http://www.scifi.com/mst3000/ and here is a huge page of links from ibiblio.org. Apparently there are several tape trading sites, loads of fan sites, quotes pages, episode guides and so on.

    There is an Official FAQ on the official Mystery Science Theater 3000 Information Club website, and another page of interesting looking MST3k-related junk at John's Mystery Science Theater 3000 WWW Page which makes the cut for this post because of course it's hosted on linuxsavvy.com (I think it's a private consulting company but I'm not associated with it).

    Have fun!

    Oh, yeah, I'd second the suggestion about the Geek's wishlist for 2002.

    Christopher
  28. tHe mAsTer wOulD nOt aPPrOVe by Luxury+P.+Yacht · · Score: 2, Funny
    A few favorite quips off the top o' my head:
    • Good Night! Stay pink, soft, and oily!
    • Uh... that's not how you wear your Depends, Torgo.
    • You never had a poodle!
    • You led me on, you gave me mixed signals...
    • Boy, Russ Weatherwax really outdid himself with this dog!
    Who's got more? C'mon! Post'em!
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    Morrissey rides a cockhorse -- The Warlock Pinchers
    1. Re:tHe mAsTer wOulD nOt aPPrOVe by ewhac · · Score: 3, Funny

      • "Y'know, this is the slowest car chase scene I've ever seen."
      • "Visit beautiful ground zero."
      • "They just dissolved to the same scene."
      • "Look, could we drop off Tim Weisberg now?"
      • "Manos: The Hands of Fate was filmed on location in a vacant lot."
      • "Been hittin' the ThighMaster, Torgo?"
      • "DO SOMETHING!!"
      • "Oh, c'mon, die; my arms are getting tired."
      • "A crew? They had a crew!? I do not believe this movie had a crew."
      • "These guys have the longest shift."
      • "Wait! There's somethin' gainin' on us... Oh, it's just the top. I'm intensely stupid."
      • "C'mon, fling 'er! Sidearm! Go for distance!"
      • "The haunting... Torgo theme."
      • "Well, his technique has improved somewhat."
      • "This isn't Lysistrata. I like it, but it isn't Lysistrata."

      Everyone needs to see this episode at least once. You will shake your head in utter bewilderment.

      Schwab

  29. Oh yes! The only thing better... by RyanFenton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The only thing I can think of that might be better would be "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"!

    Joel: Oh, and would you like for Christmas, little crow?

    Crow: I want to decide who lives and who dies!

    Joel: Oh, I don't know...

    I was always proud when going to high school that I was learning in the same class room that Joel Hodgeson was in. Unfortunatly, none of the local cable networks recieved the Comedy Channel/Comedy Central, so no one even knew what the show was. Good 'ol sleepy eyed Joel.

    :^)

    Ryan Fenton

  30. voting system by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    The current ratings have Manos in the large block tied for second... but it has almost 3000 votes - 10 times more than the "winner," and over three times more votes than any of its peers.

    I/ve always wondered about a proper voting method that would take into account the volume of a response, but which would not be subject to ballot stuffing.

    And let's face it, there are a number of small time flicks out there that would not make the big time for obvious reasons. The one that made the the worst movie of all time was a batwoman movie.

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    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  31. MST3k LIve! Well, maybe not.... by EvilJohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For those of you who live in or near Austin Texas, a local comedy group, Mr. Sinus Theater 3000, does live MSTk 3000 type of shows at the legendary Alamo Drafthouse. I reccomend the shows highly. They did Footloose, renacting the horrible Chicken-Tractor scene at halftime, using tricycles instead. I nearly passed out, but that could have been the beer.

    To Quote the theme song: "We show movies live, not on TV, we show films with nudity..."

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    Less Talk, More Beer.
  32. MST3K almost over! by Cerlyn · · Score: 2

    If you watch MST3K on the Sci-Fi channel, the last episode to be shown on television will be December 29th. For more information on this, go the the official fan club site and scroll down to "THE FINAL SCHEDULE". Sci-Fi has not renewed their contract to show episodes past January. Even if they did, they could only show reruns; the set has long since been torn down and sold on Ebay.

    My karma is high enough, please do not give more. That includes negative amounts.

  33. Re:But what about "Warrior of the Lost Worlds"? by ewhac · · Score: 2

    Oh, you mean that film with the Paper Chase guy?

    Schwab

  34. MST Notes by Reverend+Raven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Firstly: Thank the gods other people think having Mike and the Bots on every DVD would be a good thing. And hey, they could have a short host segument before the movie, then the movie, then another short one after the flick. It'd be great! ;)

    Secondly: The reason Best Brains/Rhino doesn't put out whole seasons is because of the film rights. After many of these..."classic" flicks were shown to Joel/Mike and the Bots, the copyright holders quickly jacked up the price of using the films. Some people, like Sandy Frank, didn't know what Best Brains was doing to their movies, and they were furious. So for a lot of the movies, the rights have expired and the cost of getting them for video distribution is (apparently) higher than projected sales.

    Now what I find interesting is that Best Brains themselves has released some new episodes on video. The thing is that Rhino's not involved in it, and they're from the Sci-Fi Channel years. They're available at mst3kinfo.com. That means that Best Brains owns the rights to these movies, and arn't going through a disto such as Rhino. Very interesting. Maybe people could lobby BBI hard enough that they'd release DVDs (Doubtful, but it never hurts).

    And lastly, Sci-Fi is removing MST from their lineup after December. So watch and tape now, or check around for episodes. eBay has some general episodes, and private citizens have been known to have a large episode as well as rare tape collection. ;)

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    --Reverend Raven
    Desperate days demand dire deeds.
    1. Re:MST Notes by Galvatron · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Secondly: The reason Best Brains/Rhino doesn't put out whole seasons is because of the film rights.


      Yet another wonderful thing killed by copyrights in excess of 100 years... If copyrights still lasted 24 years, everything made prior to Star Wars would be up for grabs now.

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      "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
  35. Redefining "Bad Movie" by ewhac · · Score: 3, Informative

    Many movies vie for the coveted crown of Worst Movie Ever Made. Most people typically award this mantle to Ed Wood's Plan Nine from Outer Space.

    They are wrong.

    You thought Plan Nine was bad? You thought Waterworld was bad? You thought Highlander II was bad? You have not experienced bad until you have endured the horror, the banality, the stunningly bewildering mess that is...

    Manos: The Hands of Fate.

    Most movies that people call "bad" are movies that merely failed to entertain them. Manos, however, will have you shaking your head in utter bewilderment as you ask yourself, "What were they thinking?" and, "How could they not know this sucked?" Filmed on grainy 8mm stock (and if it wasn't 8mm, it sure looks like it), the movie is in focus barely half the time, and poorly framed the other half. Scenes plod along at a glacial pace as "actors" stand around in utter silence as the camera continues rolling, waiting patiently for them to remember their lines, or at least ad lib one.

    It is worth seeing, just to know that such things exist. You will be amazed. And not in a good way.

    Schwab

  36. NO! Bad one to start with! by Gannoc · · Score: 2
    This one is only funny if you're already a fan, otherwise the movie is just too amazingly bad to enjoy.

    For example, the part when the scientists are apologizing for how bad the movie is won't make sense if this is your FIRST one.

    I'd recommend starting with a Gamera or Godzilla movie. The movies are prob more familar, and the jokes are great.

  37. I can't believe by rjamestaylor · · Score: 3, Funny
    I can't believe Slashdot editors posted a story about a movie with a lead character named "Goatman".

    **shudder**

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    -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
  38. Re:Biased? by aka-ed · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The MST3K tapes are released on Rhino's own label. If you buy direct, a larger percentage of the ca$h goes to the people who find MST3K worthy of committing to DVD, with the likely result that MST3K releases will come with more frequency.

    Buying through another retailer adds several middlemen to the process. Of course, it's fine to support the local Mom Pop (even encouraged), but Rhino ain't evil. I remember when all they had on their label was retro-rock and "outsider" culture releases like Fred Blassie's "King Of Men."

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    I survived the Dick Cheney Presidency 7 to 9 AM 7-21-07
  39. For those of you with Windows. by Glytch · · Score: 3, Informative
  40. For all you MSTies out there--Download 'em! by Exantrius · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hey, for all of you guys who love the old MST3k episodes that *AREN'T* getting released: MST3k-DAP Also, on the zirc network in #dapcentral, and on edonkey2000, at, well, just check the above URL for that information.. Hasta luego, Exantrius

  41. That's not all that's coming by Gizzmonic · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you check www.mst3kinfo.com you can find that the Brains (mst3k production company) are selling a bunch of the SciFi episodes, as well as a new shorts tape with "Operation Venezuela" (originally planned for the MST3k interactive CD-ROM which never materialized).

    I was lucky enough to see that one at their second convention in '96, and it's freakin funny. I hope they release some of the deleted scenes from the movie (like the meteor storm scene) soon.

    PS I have over 100 episodes on video tape. Who wants to be a dear and buy me a DVD writer so I can convert them all over? You know you want to!

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    (-1, Raw and Uncut is the only way to read)
    1. Re:That's not all that's coming by cowboy+junkie · · Score: 2

      When a DVD writer comes out that can handle a full episode on one disc, this is the first project I'd work on. I started recording MST3K back in the CC days - because I knew that due to the rights issues (and the fact that only 1/1000 people really 'get' the show), they'd probably never be rerun down the line.

  42. They got close, but the *best* MST3k? Tied..... by veddermatic · · Score: 3, Funny
    Outlaw of Gor and Mitchel. Don't get me wrong, Manos is a classic, top ten episode, and maybe the worst movie they ever did... well, except maybe Monster a Go-Go.


    Jack Pallance in an MST... too funny to begin with. But the lines f*ing RULE. "I'll just follow your butt!" (orchestra hit sound effect) "Oh, maybe not" and "Oh look, *another* nice day!" are jsut too classic.


    Mitchell is possibly the best of the best.... "Ohh, he's landed jsut short of the green" and "*pnat* *pant*, uhhhhh... there's gotta be a beer around here somewhere...." are too good.


    Then again, Godzilla vs. Megalon is alos too damn good, as is Human Duplicators. Crap. How can you pick just one!!!!

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    1. Re:They got close, but the *best* MST3k? Tied..... by dhamsaic · · Score: 2

      Riding with Death is one of my personal favorites... I have gut busting laughter during the "ha ha ha ha ha" after the truck explodes. Also, The Incredibly Strange Creatures that Stopped Living and Became Mixed Up Zombies was pretty classic...

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      Every once in a while I like to masturbate a new word into my vocabulary, even if I don't know what it means.
    2. Re:They got close, but the *best* MST3k? Tied..... by dhamsaic · · Score: 2
      "They didn't charge us for the hush puppies!"


      or...


      "So thank you Sam."


      "You're welcome, dork."


      To the cupcake mobile!


      Yeah, that's such a great episode.

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      Every once in a while I like to masturbate a new word into my vocabulary, even if I don't know what it means.
  43. absolutely by rm+-rf+/etc/* · · Score: 2

    I have seen manos several times, I even own a copy. It is by far the worst movie ever made. If you get the MST3k version, it is at least somewhat watchable. Without their commentary, however, kiss your sanity goodbye. Why is it so bad?


    We start out with 20 minutes of footage of corn fields being shot from a moving car. Most of these shots are the same, reused again and again. Little dialogue, nothing happens. Then we get to the cottage, where the family's car breaks down. Since it's dark, they obviously cannot drive home so they have to ask to stay. We meet Torgo, who is a centaur, with cloven hooves and all. The man who played Torgo killed himself a few weeks after the movie was made.


    Torgo develops a crush on the mother. Wierd things happen. The master has a harem he dances with. There are some strange things involving dogs. The rest is too odd to describe. Worse still? They only had a camera with a 30 second film capacity, there is no scene longer than 30 seconds. They had no audio equipment, all vocies were dubbed later on. Poorly. In short, it's bad. Real bad.


    This movie makes battlefield earth look like an oscar caliber movie. It makes you appreciate the plot of Plan 8 From Outer Space and even Glen or Glenda. It makes Nigh of the Lepus and The Stuff seem like well done movies. In short, the only movie I could think of that might possibly be worse is this, and I doubt it's even a real movie.

  44. This might not be relevant... by Rand+Race · · Score: 2
    ... but did you know Gamera is freind to all children?

    Yea, I heard he's made of turtle meat.

    It's really neat!


    BTW, best episode ever? The Day the Earth Froze . With the short Here Comes the Circus... "Oh my god! They're doing it clown style!"


    I thought the line for the gold would be much longer...

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    Insanity is the last line of defence for the master diplomat. But you have to lay the groundwork early.
  45. Re:Oh yes! The only thing better... by Zigg · · Score: 2

    I believe that was "Mad Movies with the L.A. Connection"...? That title sticks in my head for some reason.