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The Humble Space Telescope

frank249 writes " How would you like to do your own astronomy research with a space-based telescope? Sounds unlikely? Perhaps today, since there's only one available, and NASA has it booked pretty solid. However, this is about to change. The Canadian Space Agency just signed a contract to launch Canada's first space telescope, is scheduled to be launched in October 2002. If successful, millions of astronomers worldwide will have access to a more humble version of NASA's Hubble via the internet. It is scheduled to be launched in October 2002 as part of a multiple payload mission from Plesetsk, Russia, on an SS-19 based launch vehicle called Rockot. The SS-19 was supposed to be destroyed as part of an Arms reduction treaty so why not get some use out of it?" And it's so cute, it looks like mod furniture.

75 comments

  1. HOORAY! by Guns+n'+Roses+Troll · · Score: -1
    For BOOBIES!

    Oh, and first poast bit too. (dedicated to all fallen trolls)

  2. Use the Hubble to look into this!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  3. Wow... by mdemeny · · Score: 5, Funny
    This can be done with such a small telescope (15cm aperture) thanks to new Canadian attitude control technology.

    Amazing... the same stuff that keeps us polite make satellites small! Wonders never cease...

    1. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Don't know too much eh ?

    2. Re:Wow... by MindStalker · · Score: 2

      No, it wasn't a typo. I think its spin, I'm not quite sure though, but I've seen the word used before when talking about sattalies.

    3. Re:Wow... by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Informative

      From dictionary.com
      3.The orientation of an aircraft's axes relative to a reference line or plane, such as the horizon.
      4.The orientation of a spacecraft relative to its direction of motion.

  4. HOORAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  5. ep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    mg

  6. Do you think they will become suspicious? by Typingsux · · Score: 0, Funny
    Will they allow me to point it back towards Earth at Heidi Klums apartment?

    Talk about viewing heavenly bodies. Yummmm.

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    1. Re:Do you think they will become suspicious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some moderators need to lighten the fuck up. While this isn't the funniest joke by a mile out here, it most certainly isn't "Offtopic". And if it comes up in my metamoderation the moderator will pay.

      Who doesn't think about pointing telescopes at babes (except maybe babes)? I have had police officers stop and question me several times when I had my 13-inch telescope out in a neighborhood area. Although the funniest was when one of them thought I had some sort of giant cannon.

      And, NO, I am not Typingsux.

  7. Damn kids. by omega9 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Great. Now you now a troll is going to 'script-kiddie' the telescope to point to a photo of goats.cx for everyone to enjoy.

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    1. Re:Damn kids. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      see here for words of fucking wisdom.

    2. Re:Damn kids. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why I'm starting to dislike Slashdot. Correction: This is why I'm starting to dislike the users (read moderators (read users)) of Slashdot. Slashdot was one of the first "community moderated" forums, and deserves a certain amount of respect for becoming an inspiration to many other sites to do the same. Yeah, sometimes we all bitch about how much /. sux, but we always come back here. Now I'm starting to wonder exactly why I come back here.

      It's useless talking about moderators as if they were "other" people. We are the moderators. If you have never been a moderator it is either because you have opted not to be one, or have not met the guidelines to gain moderator status. In any case, having mod status is not for us to use selfishly. And when moderating, some of us have a very hard time remembering not to take comments personal, determining if a post was an honest attempt at a joke, and generaly considering other people's views. Personaly, I groan when I get mod status, because I know that to do it fairly I'll need to slide out of whatever buggy mood I'm in in order to correctly judge a poster's intentions.

      My post above was an honest attempt at a joke (and at the moment I thought it was fairly creative). I can understand if a joke bombs, but by no means was I trolling, or even offtopic. Yet my tally is Offtopic=2 Troll=2 Underrated=1 Total=5. The Slashdot effect may be quite stunning to a website, but the lemming effect can be quite obvious on a post. Thank you to whoever moded me underrated. I'm not saying it's the funniest post created, but I believe it was unfairly moded as troll and offtopic.

      If you look at my post history you'll see that I'm no troll (I think I do OK for myself as a casual user). And with that context I think it would be apparent that my above post was an honest attempt to "if you can't post something informative, post something funny". Unfortunatly, sometimes I feel like I'm one of the few who take moderation seriously. When it comes down to it most people here seem to be just to selfish to consider anyone elses opinion but their own.

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    3. Re:Damn kids. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. You misspelled goatse.cx

      2. You misspelled KNOW. IDIOT.

  8. Stand On Guard by Proaxiom · · Score: 2, Offtopic
    And with the value of the Canadian dollar as it is, it will be dirt-cheap for Americans to buy time on it.

    You can get an hour for a bowl of poutine and a few strips of back-bacon.

    Fair warning, of course, this is just a small part of the grand Canadian master plan to take over the world.

    1. Re:Stand On Guard by Weedstock · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Another part of this plan is to sell Candu reactors to more and more countries in order to help them develop their nuclear arsenal and destroy the ....

    2. Re:Stand On Guard by _J_ · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I like the plan here better, myself.

      J:)

    3. Re:Stand On Guard by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      About the CDN$ being 'cheap'...

      Our dollar is not as 'weak' as you suggest. It is a case of the US$ being strong && our constant comparison against *it*.

      All currencies are 'off' against the US$.

      This is about to change w/ the into of the EURO... as it will be seen as a 'second' bell-weather currenty. It (the euro) will also be set against a value in prescious metals.

    4. Re:Stand On Guard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the nitpicking, but the point of the original post was that goods imported to the US from Canada (which would include purchased use of a satellite) are very cheap to Americans because of the generous exchange rate.

      The reasons don't really matter, and the exchange rate against foreign currencies are even less relevant because the vast majority of Canadian international trade is with the United States.

      -1 Offtopic thankyouverymuch

  9. That's a really cool ASP... by Ron+Harwood · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...I'm sure that is one Application Service Provider for the net that will actually make a profit...

  10. Article by pajor · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Saint-Hubert, Quebec, November 20, 2001 - The Canadian Space Agency (CSA) and Eurockot Launch Services of Bremen, Germany, today announced the signing of a Launch Service Agreement for Canada's MOST (Microvariability & Oscillations of STars) microsatellite.MOST, carrying Canada's first space telescope, is scheduled to be launched in October 2002 as part of a multiple payload mission from Plesetsk, Russia, on an SS-19 based launch vehicle called Rockot.

    "MOST is a unique and exciting space astronomy mission involving Canadian government, scientists and industry," said Mr. Barry Wetter, Director General of the CSA's Space Science Branch. "The signing of this launch agreement with Eurockot is a major step toward seeing this project to fruition."

    The MOST project uses innovative Canadian technology to enable a cost-effective space science mission involving a small telescope no bigger in diameter than a pie plate, carried on a microsatellite about the size of a small suitcase. The total weight is only 60 kilograms.The telescope will help set a limit on the age of the Universe and probe the properties of planets around other stars.

    Funded and managed by the CSA's Space Science Branch under its Small Payloads Program, the MOST project is a co-operative Canadian scientific partnership. Dynacon Enterprises Limited of Mississauga, Ontario, is the prime contractor. The telescope is being developed by the University of British Columbia (UBC) while the satellite is being assembled at the University of Toronto Institute for Aerospace Studies (UTIAS). Other key partners include the Centre for Research in Earth and Space Technology (CRESTech) of Toronto, Spectral Applied Research of Concord, Ontario, the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) and the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada (RASC).The Principal Investigator, Prof. Jaymie Matthews of UBC, leads a team of scientists from across Canada, the United States and Austria.

    The Canadian Space Agency is providing $8.5 million to fund the development of the satellite and ground control station, the launch and operations. An additional $1.2 million in support to UTIAS was provided by the Ontario government through its Ontario Research and Development Challenge Fund.

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  11. Russion Rockets by ViceClown · · Score: 2, Informative

    If anyone's interested there's a great article in last month's Wired that talks about how Russia is using their rockets to make some ca$h launching other people's satellites. Seems to be working pretty well too!

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  12. FUCKING BASTARDS THE LIST! Version 0.0.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:FUCKING BASTARDS THE LIST! Version 0.0.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you should add me. My name is above.

    2. Re:FUCKING BASTARDS THE LIST! Version 0.0.1 by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      You could use Slashdot to keep your enemies list.
      Or, you can kneel down and slurp my juicy dick down your throat.
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    3. Re:FUCKING BASTARDS THE LIST! Version 0.0.1 by Fecal+Troll+Matter · · Score: -1
  13. Humble?? by Vinson+Massif · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Of course it's humble you dolts, it's Canadian!!

    Thank you.

    Sorry if I offended anyone.

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  14. "Canadian Space Agency" by Genghis+Troll · · Score: -1

    Hahahaha, that's like "Polish Academy", or "French Warrior".

  15. Furniture nothing! Try Kodak Instamatic Satellite! by Asprin · · Score: 1

    Ummm, is it me or does this thing look like one of those 126 cartridge cameras Kodak sold to everyone with a paper route in the seventies?

    Wow, THAT brings back some memories...

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  16. Huh? by cperciva · · Score: 2

    Guys, this isn't going to be rented by the hour to amateur astronomers (or amateur spy satellite operators). And this isn't going to be competing with Hubble either.

    I think the story submitter spent too long as a moderator.

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      There's a very obvious problem when transferring any book to the big screen, namely that some of us may already have seen it. It's not that the story holds no surprises (save for the occasional controversies that surround the fate of characters like Hannibal Lecter), it's just that many of us have already read the book, and thus we've already directed our own version of the story. We've already seen it in our mind's eye. And this is the problem that plagues The Fellowship of The Ring. You'll see a lot of reviews here proclaiming it as nothing short of the second coming of cinema, and a few that dare to knock its serious shortcomings. Let me clear this up right now. The first issue that many may raise is that this is not a faithful adaptation of the book. Quite right, while taking pains to ensure that they stayed faithful to the novel, Jackson et al have not simply been able to lift their screenplay directly from its pages without a few necessary changes. There is a great deal of mindfulness in the film about the portion of the audience (and it will be large) who are unfamiliar with the novels. Accordingly a great deal more emphasis has been placed upon pacing and storytelling more appropriate to a classic film narrative. Hence we need to see Gandalf's protracted bid to escape the clutches of Isenguard interspersed with the Hobbit's journey to Rivendell. It simply isn't appropriate to expect an audience to bear with the Hobbits' journey, no matter how good the actors are or how enthralling the story is, for upwards of an hour without constant reminders of the films other protagonists OR the threat of the evil they face. Having Gandalf just turn up at Rivendell and tell his story via CGI-filled flashbacks simply wouldn't have had the necessary effect. Secondly, the omission and reworking of characters. Yes, it was sad that Bakshi felt his animation didn't need Tom Bombadill, and given that he features strongly in Tolkien's other works this has to be frowned upon by the die-hard fanatics, but introducing diverting, but ultimately pointless episodes into the list of the challenges the Hobbits face is hardly going to keep you riveted to your seat is it? I mean, a man who stops the Hobbits being eaten, very slowly, by a tree with his power of song is just quite frankly ludicrous in this day and age. The film is already stretching the audience's suspension of disbelief as far as it can go. Hence the chaff of Bombadill is cut. He isn't relevant to the rest of the story so he can be done without. It's sad for Tolkien fans for him not to be there but there's only so much celluloid available, even with a film this long. And yes, Arwen Undomiel never saved Frodo from the Dark Riders, but please, remember your girlfriend needs to have something to sink her teeth into as well, not just midgets and men with beards looking mean or scared as they fight monsters. So, for gender representation and a bid to prevent half the potential market (please remember that like all film, this is a product to be packaged and sold) her character gets a drastic overhaul. Go sister! There are numerous other issues relevant to the faithfulness of the adaptation from novel to screenplay but please, let's be content with what we've got here. It's a hard task to do all this well and Jackson, along with the rest of the boys and girls at Wingnut and WETA, should be commended for what they have achieved. That said there are some definite flaws in the film, even those that can't be overlooked by justifying the needs to relate to the popcorn and nachos audience. Firstly, we've got the Fellowship itself. Now, Merry and Pippin, while not really being established as Frodo's friends and thus not having the same kind of bond with him as they do in the novel are moderately well integrated. However, at the arrival of Boromir, Gimili and Legolas we just get left in the dark. None of these three characters, all representing important races, cultures and locations of the world of Middle Earth are given no more than token arrival-shots to introduce them, and little or no back-story as to how they came to be where they are or why they feel compelled to join Frodo's quest. Offering their various weapons is noble, and it sounds fantastic in the trailer, but when we finally get down to it we just don't know who they are or what they're about. Accordingly we don't ever really have time to care about any of these three, save for Legolas whose fighting proficiency alone makes him stand out. Sadly, Sean Bean is allowed little more than to switch from foreboding bad guy to friendly companion and back again (thus betraying his characters ultimate fate from the first time he opens his mouth) and John Rhys Davis is left with little more to do than scowl and look short. It doesn't help that both these characters seem to get a pretty raw deal for screen time, especially Gimli, who is barely in the film at all. We won't even begin to go into the seemingly superficial relationship we see between Sam and Frodo. All of this is indeed a shame. The film's greatest strength after its story are its strong characters. However, whereas in the book they have the space to develop and flesh themselves out here they have little more to do than look in awe at Gandalf, perhaps not with a humble air so much as a wonder that he's being allowed to soak up all the screen time. And yes, what you've heard is true; the fight sequences are shockingly bad. Well, perhaps that IS an overstatement. The fight sequences aren't exactly bad, they're riddled with good ideas and clever moves, but the camerawork and editing is so erratic that you'll have a hard time picking out anything to inspire awe or respect. The problem here is that the benchmarks for on screen fighting have all been established nowadays by The Matrix, Crouching Tiger and The Phantom Menace, and all of these films use lengthy shots to allow us to soak up the fight imaginative fight choreography, rather than have us crane our necks and dart about the screen with our eyeballs trying to glimpse it like a rare bird or nipple-flash at a premiere. Now, these, yet again, are only a few of the problems. There's the geography of Middle Earth, some ropey special effects moments and the clumsy ending to deal with. But you can read the books and see the film for yourself; I've already typed enough about all that here. BUT, now that I've just spent the main chunk of this review telling you about the shortcomings of The Fellowship of the Rings as both a movie and an adaptation let me tell you, it is good, exceptionally good. There is no denying that the storyline itself, acting, effects, props, sets and so on and so forth are all spot on. Visually the film is a triumph and WETA has now, without question placed itself ahead of Industrial Light and Magic in terms of industry leading special effects. There are bags of style to proceedings, with some sequences displaying the sheer amount of vision of the whole team to bring somewhat vague sections of the novel to life. All parts are played to perfection by the cast, and the casting is literally some of the best and most appropriate seen in years, none of this who-hot-and-who's-not Jerry Bruckheimer trash, it's a case of the best possible person for the part at every stage of the film. We'll give particular credit to Sir Ian Mckellan, Christopher Lee, Ian Holm and Elijah Wood again here. No doubt they've had scores of favourable and loving reviews already but these performances truly are worth mentioning just once again. The film is a masterpiece from start to finish. Yes, it does take perseverance, no it's not entirely faithful to Tolkien's work and there are some serious flaws, but in a year that has been so barren of even five decent mainstream movies I think it's safe to say that no matter when this film had been released it would have outshone its competitors.

    2. Re:Huh? by frank249 · · Score: 5, Informative

      One of the team leaders was on a CBC radio science show. He said that while the $3 billion Hubble was designed to be good at many different observation tasks, the MOST will be great in only a few limited tasks. It would be, as noted in the proposal STELLAR SEISMOLOGY FROM SPACE , ironic if an optical telescope only 15 cm across, armed only with a broadband photometer and with a budget of only about Cdn$12M, could probe the cores of stars and set a limit on the age of the Universe thus shedding new light on a fundamental question in cosmology.

      He also said that an unprecedented amount of time will be allocated to amateur observer projects through a public outreach programme.

      After MOST achieves its primary scientific goals, we plan to give the Canadian public a chance to make observations with this unique space observatory. In conjunction with the RASC (Royal Astronomical Society of Canada), an Amateur Observers' Contest will be held. Amateur astronomers and students will be able to submit observing proposals for MOST, with the technical support of Canadian astronomers.

      The MOST Project also plans to spread information about our project and its science through the Pacific Space Centre in Vancouver, B.C.

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    3. Re:Huh? by BeatlesForum.com · · Score: 1

      I understand the exchange rate with Canadian currency, but I still don't believe your average Joe Slashdotter is going to be able to afford much time on this thing.

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  17. Hubble data is available to the masses! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a former HST employee, I just wanted to let you know that the astronomical data from the Hubble Space Telescope is available online to anyone who wants access! Of course, astronomers have a certain time period before their data becomes available to give them a chance to analyze it first. It used to be a year, I believe. After that, it's available from http://archive.stsci.edu/hst/search_retrieve.html. That page should have all the info needed to start.

    Happy stargazing!

    1. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by Quasar1999 · · Score: 2

      But the problem is that I'm not the one who decides where hubble is looking, the astronomers that have been allocated time on Hubble's schedule are the ones who decide. So all I get is to see what other people wanted to look at.

      I want to look straight at the moon with Hubble... put that damn 'moon landing conspiracy theory' to rest once and for all... I'm sure Hubble could see the damn flag... or even the foot prints...

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    2. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by phamlen · · Score: 5, Funny

      Right! Use the supposed "Space telescope" to prove that the "Moon landing" was real...like we'd believe that you have a telescope in space!

      Will the conspiracy never end? :)

    3. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by bdeclerc · · Score: 1
      I'm sure Hubble could see the damn flag... or even the foot prints...

      It couldn't, not by a long shot. The smallest details HST can see on the moon are around 100 meters in diameter...

    4. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by Sara+Chan · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The web page that you cite mostly gives tabular data. (In some ways, data from the Hipparcos project is preferable to that.)

      People who are interested in photographic images from the Hubble Space Telescope would likely be better browsing those available from the Hubble Heritage Project. They're incredible!


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    5. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      I want to look straight at the moon with Hubble... put that damn 'moon landing conspiracy theory' to rest once and for all... I'm sure Hubble could see the damn flag... or even the foot prints...

      Sadly, it's resolution and pointing accuracy are nowhere near high enough for such a close and relatively fast moving target. Not to mention the reflected sunlight would burn out Hubble's delicate sensors.

    6. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well isn't that conveeeeeenient!

      Betcha there really are not any non-alien telescopes in space anyways!

    7. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by rnbc · · Score: 1
      The web page that you cite mostly gives tabular data. (In some ways, data from the Hipparcos project is preferable to that.)

      Well... that "tabular data" was the one used to make those wonderfull images you mention, that is: after much pholoshop retouching. I would say those images are more a product of human imagination than of the telescope itself :-)

      If you wan't the raw data to make scientific analysis you are definetly better using the original *.fits files.

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    8. Re:Hubble data is available to the masses! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moon landing jokes aside, you are right. You are relying on data of others. But very large portions of the sky have been covered by HST, so what you are interested in may already have been observed with the instrument you want! Also, people actually put together proposals and get grants to go back and look for serundipitous findings in the old data!

  18. Subject? by Knunov · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "from the again-canadians-show-us-how dept."

    Yeah, we Americans are a useless lot. We've shown the world nothing...

    Ah, well, there is Slashdot. A self-coded site that crashes regularly, has self-hating, righteous, illiterate editors that double-post with regularity and do about as much fact checking as your average Arabian newspaper. And it's run by Americans.

    You may have a point, you complete fucking jackass.

    Knunov

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  19. The deep dark secrets of Candu... by Proaxiom · · Score: 2, Offtopic
    Unbeknownst to the rest of the world, CANDU reactors have a secret backdoor knowable only to those who have spent much of their lives riding on dogsleds and playing Lacrosse.

    Oh, and did I hear "scientific" space telescope? Well, space telescope, orbital missile defence platform, same thing, right?

    The rest of the world will soon learn the virtues of putting cheese curds on french fries! BWAHAHAHA!

  20. Reason for a Canadian Satellite by Fatal0E · · Score: 1, Offtopic



    I heard they are going to have to keep it in geo-sync orbit with Canada so they can finally begin studying Celine Dion's giant camel toe.

    1. Re:Reason for a Canadian Satellite by mblumber · · Score: 1

      Offtopic? There is much to be learned about the universe from Celine Dion's camel toe. Do not dismiss it as offtopic, because it surely is not.

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  21. original in French? by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    Actually, the tech specs page sounds like it is translated from the original french.

    Only so long as we do not get the equivalent of the Holy Grail in Outer Space. Although that could be fun in itself.

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  22. A more humble version of the American... by Mzilikazi · · Score: 0, Troll
    ...doesn't this sum up Canadians in general? ;)


    Just kidding, my frosty neighbors to the north...

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    1. Re:A more humble version of the American... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Frosty neighbours to the north??? Cripes, it's raining here in Ontario... RAIN! in December... Frosty??? My iglo has melted damn it... now I'm getting all wet...

  23. Get some priorities ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Today is the 24.12 christmas eve and you are discussing humble space telescopes ?
    Come on guys, while humility is one of the christmas virtues space telescopes ain't.
    Instead of using the internet and sitting alone in front of your computer you should sit around a christmas tree with friends and do a singsong a eat some roasted goose.

    So get some priorities and change your life !

    1. Re:Get some priorities ! by bman · · Score: 1

      Soo, you are on /. for what reason?

  24. Happy Festivus everyone by alen · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Get your poles and speak out your grievances here.

  25. Hehe by Jennifer+Ever · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Rockot? Rawkawt!

    1. Re:Hehe by osm · · Score: -1

      dshalkfjasklfhlahfd

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  26. my story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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    Rob explained how he overcame his desire to buy hookers by learning the technique of "kernel compiling." This advanced Native-American sexual act is performed by compacting handfuls of corn grain into the anus. After a few moments of settling, the corn grain begins to stimulate the prostate. Eventually, the grain will begin expanding due to the moisture of the anus. Often the sensation of gerbeling (inserting a rodent into the anus) is described as the feeling. Rob said he performed a kernel compile "every other day" until a hooker was the last person on his mind. Corn became his new play toy. Unfortunately, Rob began having violent erections at the mere thought of vegetables. His friend Jon "Vegan" Katz, came to the rescue by offering to desensitize him with man-sausage. (You know what I mean by man sausage.) Now Rob is neither attracted to hookers nor vegetables.

    Katz is a great guy. He offered me support too. As a teenager, he started gaining weight. By the age of 20, Katz weighed 500 pounds! But he learned that weight doesn't affect sexual desire one bit!! He still continued to attend all the gay "movie parties" at the local theatre. During matinee showings of Rock and Roll High School, he would make out with all the hot fat guys in the back of the theatre. Sometimes Katz even had "bathroom breaks." This really intrigued me that a guy who weighed 500+ pounds didn't feel ashamed about his homosexuality. I had the chance to meet Katz at a Portland book signing last year. We had dinner together and discussed my issues with female hookers. He persuaded me to try man-sausage for just one night. I agreed. It wasn't what I expected, though. Without going into many details, Katz just thrusted his tool down my throat until he was gratified. Then, he went down on my tool. I never ejaculated because I was just plain horrified at the time. Katz apologized for his straightforwardness. I apologized for not really being "gay enough" for his taste of men. But we talked more after that. Now we correspond occasionally and plan to meet again in Las Vegas at Comdex 2002. Though I never turned to the hardcore gay lifestyle of Katz, my desire for cheap hookers declined after we met. I owe Katz a big debt for his help.

  27. MERRY X-MAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I LIVE IN GMT +08:00
    IT'S 25TH DECEMBER
    MERRY X-MAS

  28. It gets better by s20451 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To save costs, this thing was designed and built by students at Canadian universities. At the University of Toronto, a graduate student taking AER 1520H would have directly participated in the design of MOST. I have some friends who worked on this project ...

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    1. Re:It gets better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I applaud your friends and their accomplishments. They might consider going to work for Perkin-Elmer (the ones who made the fucked up mirror for the Hubble telescope), and showing them how to do things right (read: spend the bucks to test the mirror before launch, instead of lowballing the bid by eliminating "verification" of operation).

  29. Against John Ashcroft @# +1 ; Patriotic #@ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    My complaint about John Ashcroft:

    May I be cynical for a bit? I hope you don't mind,
    but with Ashcroft's latest barrage of
    malodorous notions, I can't resist the urge to make a few cynical comments. To get right
    down to it, some of the facts I'm about
    to present may seem shocking. This
    they certainly are. However, it's time that a few
    facts had a chance to slip through the fusillade of hype.

    What's my problem, then? Allow me to present it
    in the form of a question: Where are the people
    who are willing to stand up and acknowledge
    that Ashcroft, in his infinite wisdom, has decided
    to destroy the natural beauty of our parks and forests? On the surface, it would seem to have something to do with the way that his whole approach is repugnant.

    But upon further investigation, one will find that
    by allowing Ashcroft to put mephitic thoughts in our children's minds, we are allowing him to play puppet master. As for the lies and exaggerations, Ashcroft's epigrams are rife with contradictions
    and difficulties; they're entirely maladroit,
    meet no objective criteria, and are unsuited
    for a supposedly educated population.
    And as if that weren't enough, if Ashcroft is going to obstruct important things, then he should at least have the self-respect to remind himself of a few things: First, a true enemy is better than a false friend. And second, many people respond to his debauched vituperations
    in much the same way that they respond to television dramas. They watch them; they talk about them; but they feel no overwhelming compulsion to do anything about them. That's why I insist we pronounce the truth
    and renounce the lies.

    Even people who consider themselves scornful
    foolhardy-types generally agree that Ashcroft's slurs symbolize lawlessness, violence, and misguided rebellion-- extreme liberty for a few, even if the rest of us lose more than a little freedom. One might conclude that Ashcroft is incapable of writing a letter without using
    such phrases as "crapulous pop psychologists", "loquacious exhibitionists", "oppressive personae non gratae", or some combination thereof. Alternatively, one might conclude that Ashcroft has a different view of reality from the rest of us. In either case, if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. His historical record of fickle pleas is clearer than the muddled pronouncements of his apple-polishers for a variety of reasons. For instance, the worst sorts of inconsiderate Neanderthals there
    are must be treated with political justice, not with civil justice, as they are sincerely not real citizens. Let me rephrase that: I wonder if he really believes the things he says. He knows they're not true, doesn't he? A complete answer to that question would take more space than I can afford, so I'll have to give you a simplified answer. For starters, if we let him cause riots in the streets, then greed, corruption, and tribalism will characterize the government.

    Oppressive measures will be directed against citizens. And lies and deceit will be the stock and trade of the media and educational institutions. Even Ashcroft's bedfellows couldn't deal with the full impact of Ashcroft's refrains. That's why they created "Ashcroft-ism," which is
    just a garrulous excuse to force square pegs into round holes. He plans to drag everything that is truly great into the gutter. He has instructed
    his votaries not to discuss this or even admit to his plan's existence. Obviously, Ashcroft knows he has something to hide. Most of you reading this letter have your hearts in the right place. Now
    follow your hearts with actions. I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people. I can therefore assure you that Ashcroft's artifices cannot stand on
    their own merit. That's why they're dependent on elaborate artifices and explanatory stories to convince us that Ashcroft's warnings can give us deeper insights into the nature of reality. We can and we must protect ourselves by any means
    necessary against the unrestrained bestiality
    of stupid, quasi-macabre paper-pushers. And that's the honest truth.

  30. Beautiful by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

    Beautiful:

    -1: 46 comments
    0: 29 comments
    1: 21 comments
    2: 13 comments
    3: 4 comments
    4: 1 comments
    5: 0 comments

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    Crapflooder Associates
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  31. "New" Canadian attitude control technology, eh? by Spinality · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...as opposed to the old Canadian attitude control technology, viz. the excellent products made by Molson, Labatts, etc.

    I never objected to the previous generation, but one must salute progress I suppose. :)

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    -- We all have enough strength to endure the misfortunes of other people. La Rochefoucauld
    1. Re:"New" Canadian attitude control technology, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is attitude adjustment technology. There is no control in the adjustment ;)

  32. There are telescopes and then there are telescopes by hairyian · · Score: 2, Informative

    IMO comparing this and the HST is misleading. They may be both telescopes, they may both be on satellites and they may both be in orbit (or, eventually be) but they are very different devices.

    The diffraction limit of a telescope is proportional to the size of it's aperture - the size of the 'end' where the light goes in. Basically, the more light you can capture the more you can see: generally, very faint things are hard to see. The resolving power of a telescope is believed to be limited by the diffraction limit. (I may of course be wrong, I'm not a qualified astronomer - I've only just began.)

    Ground based telescopes are considerably larger and, if there wasn't kilometres of air between it and the near-vacuum of space, would have much greater resolving power than the HST.

    At the time the HST was launched, there was a need to 'see' without the atmosphere being in the way. It has been useful. Modern ground based telescopes using things like adaptive optics can see things which the HST can't - don't underestimate the resolving power of a telescope on the ground compared to the HST. The HST is still very useful, even AO doesn't correct 'perfectly', but then the HST optics are not perfect either: those spikes that come off the center of the stars aren't supposed to be there. They're called diffraction spikes and I'm lead to believe they're caused by the telescopes structure.

    The MOST will be a useful tool, but it's a tool for a purpose and as a general telescope I'm not confident that it would compare well to the HST or ground based telescopes.

    At the rate ground based telescopes are improving, don't expect the additional cost of producing general telescopes like the HST to be met often - but I'd expect more devices with specific purposes (for instance, X-Ray astronomy which is quite scary - I've been told that a handful (5) of photons is a good detection!)

    Ian Woods

  33. bs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There have been many space telescopes... depending on which wavelength range you are talking about. The author seems to be writing about visible wavelengths... even there, there was a telescope flown on the shuttle and there are plans for one on the space station. But Chandra, SIRTF (space infrared telescope facility), COBE, Hipparcos (sp?), and the CGO (Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory) were all space-based telescopes.

    Of more interest to us astronomy-types is the latest go-ahead given by NASA to Kepler which is a space-based telescope that will look for Earth-like planets around other stars.

    Joe from berkeley.

  34. International Space Station Amateur Telescope by pease1 · · Score: 2, Informative
    For a project that is geared towards non-professionals, see the Internation Space Station Amateur Telescope Project. It is being designed and put together with volunteers from around the world with the help of the Astronomical League... and they need ALL the help they can get.

    Slashdotters should get involved and use Open Source to help make it happen.

  35. Offtopic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Offto metamod I go.

    -1 Redundat is what the parent post should be at.

  36. one day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it will be perfect:

    -1: 46 comments
    0: 0 comments
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  37. this article is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a hoax.

  38. SETI - Chinese Style by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1



    This may be somewhat off-topic.

    But China is planning a "SETI" kinda project - and search for the LGM.

    Can anyone tell me if the project would be opened for everyone to participate?

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    Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
  39. HOWTO: Sex Small Mammals by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    How to Sex Small Mammals

    Quit snickering! Figuring out the gender of a hamster, guinea pig, or other small mammal who comes into your shelter is no laughing matter. After all, if your little tenants get busy lovin', it can result in even more unwanted small pets, and pretty soon your shelter will look like a Little-Critter Free-Love Commune. When examining creatures this small, it's all in the details. Read on to find out how you can easily tell the boys from the girls.

    1. Determining Gerbil Gender
    You can sex a gerbil starting at the age of four to six weeks by peering at the animal's underside. To minimize stress on the animal and also make handling easier, place the gerbil in a large clear box to search for a pair of large testicles; if you spot them, you've got your answer to the gender question. Since the sexual and urinary openings of female gerbils is much less obvious to the naked eye, it helps to look for small nipples on the underside. Still stumped? The distance between sexual and anal organs is longer on the male than it is on the female.

    2. Holding Off Hamster Hanky-Panky
    Using the clear box trick, look for large testicles on the underside of the hamster. In males, there will also be a bigger gap between the urinary and anal openings. The perineal area (or the area between the genitals and the anus) comes to a point at the base of the tail in females, but this area looks more rounded in males.

    3. Is This Mickey or Minnie Mouse?
    As with the other small mammals, the distance between the anus and genitals of mice is longer in males. In addition to the closer spacing, female mice have a small teardrop-shaped vagina extending down from the anus. Both openings are very close together and appear to be connected. Female mice also have two rows of nipples running vertically down their bellies.

    4. Playing Rat Roulette
    Since you don't want to say, "Oh, rats," after making a mistake in gender distinction, remember that male rats have a stronger odor than female rats. As with other rodents, male rats have a greater distance between sexual and anal openings, and their testicles are no shrinking violets.

    5. No Guinea Pig Guessing
    Male guinea pigs have obvious scrotal pouches and large testes. The sexual organ of a male guinea pig will look more like a belly button right above the anal opening. Very little space separates these parts; if you are looking at a young guinea pig, gentle manual pressure can help you distinguish between them. The organs of female guinea pigs are also close together and look something like the letter "Y"; this Y-shaped depression can be seen even in immature females.

    6. Making Rabbit Rulings
    Figuring out the sex of young rabbits can be tricky, but it gets a little easier as they mature to about 10 weeks old or so. Put your hand under the rabbit and feel around for furry testicles; keep in mind that testicles in rabbits move freely from the scrotum to the abdomen. On male rabbits, you will also see a tubular protrusion, whereas the female reproductive area will simply look more like a slit even when pressure is applied.

    Animal Sheltering, Jul-Aug 2000 Issue

  40. The Humble Space Telescope by Cinquain · · Score: 1

    So how about a large array telescope based on a million web cams and small telescopes linked together over the internet? Give it a shot and let me know.

  41. Somethings not right by Paradigum · · Score: 1

    Hmm. I remember watching a story on the local news about canadas `first science sat.` a few days ago. However, it was NOT a telescope. Was a sat. to investigate the ozone layer depletition over primarily northern canada.

    The articals linked seem rather old? hmm. Not sure if someone has mentioned, but something here isn't right.

    1. Re:Somethings not right by frank249 · · Score: 2

      The Press Release" was dated 20 Nov 2001 but MOST will not be launched until Oct 2002. My post was accepted in Nov but was delayed in posting due to a bug in the database which showed its date as 31 Dec 1968. I emailed Hemos and he fixed it Christmas eve.

      The Canadian Space Agency describes MOST as a next generation microsatellite that will be the world's smallest astronomical space telescope, capable of measuring the ages of stars in our galaxy and perhaps even unlocking mysteries of the universe itself.. You are probally reffering to SCISAT1 on which will be the MAESTRO instrument (Measurements of Aerosol Extinction in the Stratosphere and Troposphere Retrieved by Occultation). SCISAT1 is due for launch in Dec 2002. There are other projects here.

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      Today's vices may be tomorrow's virtues.

  42. Misleading comments. by orionbelt · · Score: 1
    Some of frank249's comments are misleading.

    First off, the MOST (Microgravity and Oscillations of Stars) telescope is not "a more humble version of Hubble". The Hubble space telescope is a more-or-less general purpose intrument. By contrast, MOST has a narrow focus: to make photometric measurements of tiny stellar oscillations. This is something that Hubble may not actually be properly equipped to do, and even if it is, its science mission is much more generic, and no observer could get so much HST time for a such a narrow-focus subject as MOST's.

    Secondly, there are not "millions of astronomers" in the world! (at least not professional astronomers...) There are a few thousands at most...

    1. Re:Misleading comments. by frank249 · · Score: 2

      I take umbrage that you would say my comments are misleading. From Oxford dictionary: humble >adjective (humbler, humblest) 1 having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance. 2 of low rank. 3 of modest pretensions or dimensions.

      The MOST as described in the project proposal - STELLAR SEISMOLOGY FROM SPACE is a 15 cm optical telescope with a broadband photometer. While the Hubble is larger (2.4m telescope) it has a number of instruments such as the Wide Field Planetary Camera with a role of trying to investigate the age of the universe.

      So it is literally true that the MOST is a more humble version of the Hubble as they are both space telescopes trying to investigate the age of the universe.

      As for your second comment, one of the MOST's team leaders was on a CBC radio science show and he said that in addition to the images available through the web site(like hubble), an unprecedented amount of time will be allocated to amateur observer projects through a public outreach programme. He also said that the project could last for over ten years. Now it is hard to say exactly how many astronomers(professional, amatuer, casual) will use data from MOST but it is safe to say that many will and the Canadian Space Agency will be getting good value from its $12 million(cdn) investment.

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      Today's vices may be tomorrow's virtues.