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Dreamhack 2001

flagg writes: "One of the world's largest LAN-partys is taking place in this very moment, Dreamhack 2001 in Jonkoping, Sweden. Take a look on this picture and ask yourself a question: Do I wanna be there?"

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  1. Do I want to be there? by Vess+V. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Frankly, I don't. For me, the fun of a LAN party is being there pulling an all-nighter with my buddies, spilling drinks, making a mess, watching pr0n, and laughing it up all over the place...

    Going to these hangar Lans with thousands of people just doesn't have that kind of intimacy... it's more geared toward people that just don't have broadband access and wanna get a couple of days of some lag-free gaming in.

    1. Re:Do I want to be there? by 3th3rn3t · · Score: 3, Funny

      the real question is : will i have enough storage to leech from 1000 people ? its time to pack those HP Ultrium drives...

      leech on !

    2. Re:Do I want to be there? by trilucid · · Score: 2


      Speaking of LAN parties, drinks, etc... the last true LAN party I attended was at a friend's house back in Atlanta. 'Twas a merry eve, as we were all sitting around (around 20 people), playing Quake and Unreal, eating pizza, and occassionally taking a dip in yon pool.

      Late in the evening, as we were all sitting around talking, hacking, and whatnot, I made the biggest party foul to date. I'm a smoker, and I couldn't seem to, ummm... locate my ashtray. So, I casually ashed in a glass of expensive scotch, which happened to be attached to my friend's hand. My friend (name withheld, of course) is a LARGE guy, and thankfully took mercy on me. Due to this incredible foul, I had to take a "time out" on the balcony for 30 minutes.

      Note to moderators: no, it's not offtopic, the story's about a massive LAN party for god's sake :).

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    3. Re:Do I want to be there? by ardiri · · Score: 3, Informative
      • Frankly, I don't. For me, the fun of a LAN party is being there pulling an all-nighter with my buddies, spilling drinks, making a mess, watching pr0n, and laughing it up all over the place...
      have you ever been to a swedish party? this is pretty much what we do all the time! *g* the scandanavians surely know how to party.. but, unfortunately, wont be any strippers there.. that kinda stuff aint looked upon nicely here (in sweden)..

      • Going to these hangar Lans with thousands of people just doesn't have that kind of intimacy... it's more geared toward people that just don't have broadband access and wanna get a couple of days of some lag-free gaming in.
      um.. most people in Sweden HAVE decent internet connections. and, if you have ever had gaming parties over the sunet.se backbone - you wont complain about lag :) most people run at least 512kbps from their HOME (either cable or ADSL). i dont have many friends who use dial-up..

      and, when ADSL (2.5Mbit) is provide for a measly $25 a month (www.bonet.se)? who would be stupid enough to use a modem?
  2. Lets play spot the SPA enforcer by ultitool · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wonder how many people are gonna be spending the night at the local jail because they're word processor was using an illegal key.....

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    1. Re:Lets play spot the SPA enforcer by W2k · · Score: 3, Informative

      No-one. Using pirated (that's warezed for you l33t people) is not illegal in Sweden.
      Distributing or copying copyrighted works is, but if you download it from somewhere, it's the person you copy it from who's commiting a crime.

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    2. Re:Lets play spot the SPA enforcer by Iamthefallen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      *BZZZZT*


      You get partial credit, but I'm sorry, that's incorrect, but hey, thanks for playing!


      Using software without a license might not be illegal per se here, but it is a violation of the EULA (You know that thing you never read), which demands you have a license. Thus you're free game for the mean men in uniforms to come whack you over the head



      Sidenote, just a moment ago someone in #dreamhack asked for a halflife serial#, it's a farking $10 game! Buy it! 100 hrs (counting very low) of online play means $0.1/hr...

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  3. The answer... by ThatComputerGuy · · Score: 2

    ...is not very difficult.

    Hmm, a bunch of geeks in a large room with an equivalent number of Athlons/Pentiums and monitors, heating up the room and bringing out the stank in everyone... do I really want to be there?

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  4. Re:Higher resolution image by adolf · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think I like this picture better.

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  5. is that.. by RainbowSix · · Score: 2

    I think I see a girl in that picture.. but I'm probably mistaken.

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  6. Re:The First Thought to Pop into My Head? by not-quite-rite · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have always wondered why seemingly intelligent people do not understand the benefits of deoderant.
    Geeks wonder why normals don't like being near them...It's cause they friggin stink!!

    Every time I go to a LAN party or computer swapmeet, I just want to put tape on the top(so they are held de-pressed) of a few deoderant cans and throw them around the room like tear gas canisters.

    If only they made deoderant cans that would fit a riot gun.....

  7. How many people does it take... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...before a LAN isn't a LAN?

    Or does "Local Area" refer to bandwidth in some wierd way?

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  8. I'd go but by ellem · · Score: 4, Funny

    A - I didn't see even one Aqua desktop
    B - I didn't see any BSD Grrls in red latex
    C - I didn't see Heidi Wall aywhere
    D - I can smell that room from the picture

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  9. Are you sure this is a lan party? by Afrosheen · · Score: 3, Funny

    It looks an awful lot like:

    1. An AOL tech support dungeon
    2. Microsoft's BorgCollective Coding Campus
    3. The Star Trek Official Storyline Accuracy Chamber

  10. Is that Excite@home's new business plan? by virtros · · Score: 3, Funny

    or maybe it is Ascroft's office.

    :-)

    everyday seems weirder than the next,

    virtros

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  11. They slashdotted a LAN party? Thats cruel. by sheetsda · · Score: 3, Funny
    Take a look on this picture and ask yourself a question: Do I wanna be there?

    As pipe is probably saturated with the slashdot effect now, not really. This brings a whole new meaning to "party crashing". Michael must be taking his revenge on them for not inviting him.

  12. a little too big? by British · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems a little too big to be a fun LAN party. You'd seriously have to do the buddy system there. At a LAN party, I woudln't trust leaving my computer for the time it takes to instal NetBus or BackOrifice.

    Nor would I trust logging into anything on that network. Probably sniffers all over the place.

    I like 'em small, like at a friends apartment(or a party room) where you can just chill, eat food a few feet away, etc.

  13. Some facts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Link: 1gbit/s to EBONE with the help from Arrowhead (http://dreamhack.swm.pp.se/)
    98% boys, 2% girls ;)
    40km (we are in sweeden you know ;) TP-cabels
    2km tables

    (Dreamhack is greate, but The Gathering in Norway is way better. (and even larger))

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  14. I wonder.. by RainbowSix · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure I see the point..
    I see two reasons that LAN parties at your/friend's housees are better than playing on the internet:
    1. See people you know and test their skills while talking to them
    2. Meet new people and test their skills while talking to them

    However at this large a scale, this seems almost to become as anonymous as the internet. If you join a game, you probably don't know who you're playing against and the transaction cost of finding them would be pretty high. At best you talk to the people immediately next to you.

    Most of them are probably better off playing online from home where at least they don't have to walk a mile to go to the bathroom.

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    1. Re:I wonder.. by redhog · · Score: 2

      The cost of finding them is just asking them "in which row, and in which colum, do you sit", and then walking the manhattan distance over there...

      Last time I visited DH, I actually got to know quite some new people.

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  15. Re:Higher resolution image by dimator · · Score: 2, Funny

    The guy in the top left is looking at porn!

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  16. Do I wanna be there? by Scoria · · Score: 2

    I'm not absolutely sure. That red "X" is rather impressive, however. :)

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  17. Do I wanna be there? by x136 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Take a look on this picture and ask yourself a question: Do I wanna be there?
    [click]

    "This page cannot be displayed."

    Well, gee, if you can't even show a picture of it, I don't think I want to be there!
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  18. You'll notice... by darkov · · Score: 2, Funny

    that there is only one fan in the place (bottom right). Also, looking at the traffic graph, what happened at 8:15? Looks like someone kicked out a plug. An almighty groan must have risen from the crowd about then...

  19. LAN is when you do not cross a road. (OT) by maxwells_deamon · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the networking class I took in the 80's at IBM they defined a LAN as a network where you did not have to use a common carrier for the physical layer.

    If had to cross a road/right of way, you had to use some sort of common carrier (like a phone company) you were then subject to regulations and speed limits :-(

    The network then became a WAN.

  20. How many kilogeeks? by rmckeethen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, I'll bite. Just what *is* the official term for that many computer geeks all in one place? Looking at all those monitors I'm thinking maybe calling it a 'phosphera' of geeks? Or maybe you just use scientific terminology and simply append 'kilo' or 'mega' to the word, i.e. a thousand geeks all in one place would be 'one kilogeek'. Any other suggestions?

    Yes, I AM a computer geek and proud of it, dammit! And yeah, if I lived anywhere near there I'd probably be like, maybe, third from the left in the fifth row.

  21. OK by xercist · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now look at THIS picture, and ask yourself the same question.

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  22. Mod this dude UP^^^! by cr0sh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree with you - 100 % - I think the most humble I have ever felt was after seeing this intro - 256 bytes - aggh! - and it still runs under NT!

    Now, I want to see the same intro in Linux - I am not sure if there is a way to make it work and stay that small or not - I am just OK with x86 ASM, but not to that level!!!

    DAMN! I bow before 3 sc hardcore!

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    1. Re:Mod this dude UP^^^! by dstone · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sweet Jesus! That proggie is amazing! Definitely the coolest 256 bytes on the net. Why can't viruses carry sweet little payloads like this?!

    2. Re:Mod this dude UP^^^! by cr0sh · · Score: 2

      Yeah! It is the ASM code is pretty straightforward, to a good extent - some of the stuff is familiar to me from coding I have done in x86. You can see that he (they?) is using the FPU heavily - but that is too be expected (not likely to create the demo AND fixed point routines in 256 bytes).

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    3. Re:Mod this dude UP^^^! by cr0sh · · Score: 2

      My thoughts exactly - it runs fast, lean and most amazing of all, switches into and out of graphics mode (direct hardware hitting, even!) without causing NT to gripe! I am still trying to figure that out (hey, l33t ASM coder I am not).

      I look at the code and the demo from time to time, just to say to myself "This guy can do this - I can be as good!" - as a way of reminding myself to be a better coder, in whatever language I am writing in...

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  23. Real Life Fragfest by dygytyz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can you imagine the gore, blood, and assorted carnage one could achieve by running through that room with a BFG9000?

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  24. mmm ./ is all about flaming these days. by gbug · · Score: 2, Insightful

    there are about 5000 people here.. and we're all having a good time. here are some pictures from the floor.

  25. Re:Humans are soooo dumb by Pussy+Is+Money · · Score: 2, Funny
    Yes, it's television for the idiots, and computers for the smart masses!

    Our world is shrinking...

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  26. Tss... by Asmodean20001 · · Score: 3, Flamebait

    How many times do we have to tell you... Dreamhack is a DEMO party, hosting competitions in all sorts of areas as 64k DEMOs, Wild Music, and so on. The network itself is not laggy at all, of course. The equipment in here (sponsored by Cisco and other huge network companies) is worth in the > $25.000 range.

  27. Re:Humans are soooo dumb by Lunastorm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, it's television for the idiots, and computers for the losers.
    Not all losers (aka geeks) are intelligent, as Slashdot proves.

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  28. Re:NOT a lan party you fucks. by redhog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It _was_ a demoparty, and I used to go there, but now, to what reason? Last time I was there, there where gamers there, a lot of them, but they at least had demo competitions... I made a 512 bytes mini-intro (just for fun, there where no matching competition) with a friend...

    Btw, I'l bite and answer two other messages:

    There's no snow at all in Jönköping atm (or in any town in south sweden).

    Sweden is a _long_ country, so this it's-dark-all-winter-and-bright-all-summer doesn't apply that much at all to e.g. Jönköping. But anyway, what does it matter when you'r in a building four days in a row, with ponly the light of thopusand monitors to guid you?

    DH used to be in another, more northern town (borlänge) before, but even there, there where no snow and quite bright...

    Btw, if you want to go to a _real_ demoparty, visit The Gathering in Norway!

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  29. Re:microsoft sponsoring dreamhack 2001? by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 2
    What I'm hearing is that Microsoft has a truck connected to the local network monitoring SMB and FTP traffic.

    I guess 'sponsor' can mean many things...

  30. Re:The energy companies... by cyberkreiger · · Score: 2

    According to the big screen, we are using 1.3 MW.

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  31. Relax Unreal :) by Otis_INF · · Score: 2

    Today it's more of a combined event: lots of gamers, and a small group of us, demosceners. The demoscene is not what it used to be... more and more people are into gaming than into demos, so when organising such an event, it's obvious you get 80% gamers and 20% sceners. It's not that much fun, agreed, but a fact of life...

    Otis/Infuse Project, coder DemoGL http://www.demogl.com

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  32. Mod that up by autopr0n · · Score: 3, Informative

    (clickable link, for the lazy) pictures of the setup of the site very cool

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  33. MRTG over the Dreamhack internet uplink here by _GNU_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://stat.event.dreamhack.org/

    Quite elite..

    Arrowhead in cooperation with Ebone
    in combination with a Black Diamond :)

    I'm on an ethernet connection in Sweden, 400km or so from Dreamhack, dunno really... Downloading at around 750k/sec from an ftp inside dreamhack... hehe ;)

    Hugs
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  34. More about The Gathering by snillfisk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this picture kinda shows what The Gathering is all about .. It started out as demoparty in '92 and is still running hot. These days all 5k of tickets gets sold out in ~24-48 hours, so there's apparently a huge market for lanparties here in norway, sweden and other close countries :)

    Some people has been complaining about "the stench has to be awful" .. well, guess what, since this isnt your average lanparty where people are staying in small, overheated rooms (like most "hey, lets gather over at our house"-lanparties), it works out quite nicely. Most people also shower daily (guess some of you havent heard about that. ;))..

    Ok, for those of you that are complaing about things getting too anonymous .. well, it sorta could be. But that would be boring, wouldnt it? What you usually do is that you go to the party together with your demogroup, your clan or your friends, whatever suits your need. You sit together with the people you already know (5-10-50-100) - and guess what, just on the row behind you, someone you know from IRC is sitting .. and you're meeting them for the first time ever! .. and then, suddenly, the coder of that *awesome* demo just suddenly pops by your row to say 'hi' .. you kinda have to be there to get the spirit :)

    DreamHack looks really nice this year, hopefully there'll be a few good contributions to the democompos and we'll see some nice showdowns in counter-strike and Q3 ..

    .. and to end it all up; go there!

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  35. Re:Some Observations... by AxB_teeth · · Score: 2, Funny

    > 3. But not the condom concession. ...

    then i guess you'll only get 'em going, eh?

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  36. Next party is Dec 27-29th (Denmark, 4k people) by mjul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The next big party is "The Party" in Denmark, Dec. 27-29. Some 4000 people will be there.

    Their web site is http://www.theparty.dk

  37. Re:The energy companies... by Some+Dumbass... · · Score: 2, Funny

    The computers are using so much electricity, they can't even get the lights to go on :)

    Sounds like fun, until someone realizes that the snack machine doesn't work either...

  38. You're close, honey! by Nagash · · Score: 2

    When I showed the picture to my girlfriend, she thought it was a cityscape :)

    Woz

  39. Dreamhack 2001 - Nerds on a hunt for love by iocc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dreamhack 2001 - Nerds on a hunt for love

    Funny comic-strip about Dreamhack 2001.

  40. Re:micro-apps on linux by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I know about these - but 256 bytes is even more amazing. Thanks for some other links, though!

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  41. Re:Do I wanna be there!? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2
    I suspect this is so they can actually save on heating (or cooling, depending on how you look at it). Imagine: roughly 6 thousand systems with monitors. Imagine: the heat that gets kicked out by that many systems. Imagine: almost 6 thousand people in close proximity. Speaking from personal experience, a single machine with a monitor in a 8x10 room gets pretty warm, even if the heat is low, during the winter in South Dakota,USA. (often -50F w/ windchill) With that many systems, people, and monitors, it probably makes sense to have it in the winter - if it gets to warm in there, just open a door on either side of the building, and blow out all the hot air.


    My friends and I will have LANfests in a large basement - roughly 10 to 15 of us. The room is generally about half as tightly packed as the pictures of this festival appear to be. It will get to be almost 105F in there if we don't open a window, unless the air conditioning is on in the summer. Even then, it gets fairly warm. (90F-ish?)

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  42. Re:Well what if you have to go to the bathroom? by reverius · · Score: 2

    According to their website, on this page:

    Toilets and showers
    Toilets and showers are available in the hall. A crew team is cleaning the toliets 24h a day. Showers is 10 SEK per use.

    Also, check out the games they're playing!

  43. I remember seeing that... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    But why doesn't NT complain? I remember NT would complain of such things (I remember trying to run DOOM on an NT box one time - gave me an error about trying to access the hardware directly). This switch, as you point out, is done via a BIOS interrupt - so why doesn't NT complain? Did MS change something to allow better handling of this?

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