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Big Berlin Blinkenlichten

karm13 writes "The Chaos Computer Club has made a huge display using the 8 top floors of a house in Berlin with 18 windows each as a present to themselves and Berlin for their 20th birthday. You can submit animations on the Blinkenlights project page, and even play pong with a mobile phone!"

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  1. That�s a damn large CRT! by uncl_bob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone closer than 2 kilometers from the display will get cancer right away. Cheezes.

  2. Already slashdotted... by _14k4 · · Score: 3, Informative

    May want to check out Google's cache of the page. :)

  3. Hmm... by svara · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's great for displaying ASCII-porn! I wonder how long it would take until the german government passes a law that forbids "Blinkenlights before 10PM or after 6 AM"...

    But anyway, that's not news at all, it's been around for at least three weeks...

  4. Cool, but ...been there, done that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    12 years ago in Sausalito...used 36 homes on the hillside. Not nearly as high-tech, however.

    Nice to see the spirit lives on.

    1. Re:Cool, but ...been there, done that by marcop · · Score: 2

      The janitors at Ithaca college (New York State) use twin, 11 story (I think) dormitories to display the last two date digits during new year's. For a week before the new year they display the old year, then quickly display the new date on new year's. I'm don't think that it is computer controlled. They may have people actually flipping switches, or maybe control them all from a breaker box. Not sure.

  5. Hack of the year winner? by Thnurg · · Score: 2, Funny

    So IP over Avian Carriers now has competition for hack of the year. Nice one guys.

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  6. Blinkenpaint by YKnot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Be sure to check out Blinkenpaint. While other projects like this have turned houses into displays before, this one is much more interactive. You can create animations of your own and they will be added to the rotation, if the ccc-folks like them. Or you can have them added to a "loveletter" database from which you can invoke the animation by a telephone call.

  7. This is in the very heart of Berlin, ubercool! by bkw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I drive by this thing every day and it is just too cool to see those geeks showing off their skills in the very heart of Berlin. Alexanderplatz is a very busy public place in Berlin, everybody knows the Blinkenlights.

    You just gotta love the CCC.

  8. Blinkenlights by DeadSea · · Score: 2, Funny
    This is a sign I have had in my computer room for some time now. It's a laminated xerox and I'm not sure where it came from, but I think it's pretty funny. Some people actually ask what language it is in. Have fun :-)

    Achtung!

    ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS

    Das computenmachine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Is easy schnappen der springwerk, blownfusen, und poppenoorken mit spittzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen.

    Das rubbernecken signtseeren keepen hands in das pockets--relaxen und watch das blinkenlights.

    1. Re:Blinkenlights by Emil+Brink · · Score: 3, Informative

      You might want to read up on your jargon, then. Here's a relevant entry. This is also linked to, btw, by the CCC page in the main article.

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  9. yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    yeah, but can they play tetris on it????

    1. Re:yeah, but... by mocm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, but they are playing pong on it.

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    2. Re:yeah, but... by Asic+Eng · · Score: 2
      Despite the moderation, mocm is absolutely right, the article states:

      During the night, a constantly growing number of animations can be seen. But there is an interactive component as well: you can play the old arcade classic pong on the house using your mobile phone and you can place your own loveletters on the screen

  10. Mmm. Low res activism. by citricacid · · Score: 5, Funny
    This is a pretty awesome project. I noticed their group is concerned about censorship. Now they should combine their uber-display with the German porn restrictions and fight the man with a few extremely low-res women!

    Oh turn me on Helga. Turn me on.

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  11. The best part... by illusion_2K · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is that they ported pong to it.

    Damn these guys are cool (in an ultra-geeky way).

  12. It should have won the Turner Prize. by ayjay29 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Madonna presented the £20,000 ($30,000) Turner prize to Martin Creed for a work of 'art' entitled "The Lights Going On and Off" which basically consists of an empty gallery, and two lights that do indeed go on and off. Other winners have included dirty underwear and an unmade bed.

    Read about it here...

    Shame us Nerds never enter these competitions, my exhibit "Servers in Various States of Disrepair" is surly a strong contender.

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    1. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2
      Somebody disagrees with the winner, and that's a "searing indictment"!? You must live someplace very gentle.

      If it will help, though, I'd be willing to chime in with, "Hell, my kid could've done that!" or "But it's not a picture of anything!"

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    2. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2

      Certainly. In other news of the art world, Terry Pratchett recently admitted that many of his Discworld books aren't true. "I just make stuff up", he confessed.

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  13. Similar projects by YKnot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tetris for big-thinking people:
    La Bastille: A Tech House Art Installation
    That installation was up only a few days, though.

    1. Re:Similar projects by CoreDump · · Score: 4, Funny
      The La Batille project was definitely cool, but this implementation definitely blows the Tech House away in terms of sheer coolness, because it's open to anyone to submit to and play with.

      Another cool thing is that they also distributed some programs to help you visualize the movies here.

      And to think that I thought putting my xmas lights up and controllng them with X10 modules was pretty nifty. Oh well, time to start thinking bigger for next year!

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    2. Re:Similar projects by YKnot · · Score: 3, Informative

      I gathered similar projects into a single comment. I know that this is redundant, strictly speaking, but I'll post anyway. It's much more accessible this way. I'm knocking on the karma cap anyway, so no, this isn't whoring, just risking to get modded down for redundancy. Enough blabber, here we go:

      Chaos Computer Club Blinkenlights, Berlin, Germany
      18 x 8 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://www.blinkenlights.de/

      KPN Building, Rotterdam, Netherlands
      22 x 44 matrix of green lights
      Links:
      http://home.wanadoo.nl/makiueda/climbman/index-e.h tml
      http://www.blezer2.myweb.nl/rotterdam2000/building s/kpn.html

      La Bastille: A Tech House Installation, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
      10 x 10 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://bastilleweb.techhouse.org/
      http://slashdot.org/articles/00/04/16/2148245.shtm l

      Marnix 2001, Brussels, Belgium
      52 x 7 matrix of RGB lights
      Links:
      http://marnix2001.bbl.be/

      TU-Delft Electro Technology SMS-Display, Delft, Netherlands
      264 lights (unknown configuration), displayed mobile phone short messages
      Links:
      http://etv.its.tudelft.nl/commissies/lustrum/stunt .php

      TU-Delft Electro Technology Tetris, Delft, Netherlands
      10 x 15 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://etv.et.tudelft.nl/commissies/lustrum/90/eng lish.html

      MIT's Green Building Sound (VU) Meter, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
      9 x 1 matrix of red lights
      Links:
      http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1993/green_bldg _vu_meter/green_bldg_vu_meter.html

      Clickscape 98, Linz, Austria
      13 x 8 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://www.servus.at/clickscape98/

      Poli-uni students dorm, Warsaw, Poland
      14 x 16 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://www.astercity.net/~kvas/riviera.jpg

  14. Re:been done by Weh · · Score: 3, Informative
  15. Colour version in Brussels for the millenium. by fingal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a vague memory (aided and abetted by a fine bottle of Lagavullin) of new year 2000 seeing a similar thing in Brussels that was put into place on one of the bank headquarters there. This used two or three chunky colour changers per window and gave a resolution of about 50x20 if my memory serves me. Looked very pretty as well in full colour, but the choice of content wasn't nearly as cool as the Chaos lot.

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  16. The hard part... by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it would seem to me, is getting permission from the bldg owners/occupants - otherwise you just wire a big relay panel by the breakers and drive them with an output port, nothing extremely new or anything, just takes some effort, time, and of course, euro's. Getting past the liability lawyers and insurance agents...

    You want to WHAT?? WHY????

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  17. MIT Hack by spiny · · Score: 3, Redundant

    didn't the MIT guys do this already?

    link: http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1993/green_bldg _vu_meter/

    and quite a while ago too ....

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  18. More info on the colour version in Brussels... by fingal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    much web crawling later, you should check out Marnix 2001 for the high budget alternative...

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  19. Color Blinkenlights by Enigmia+Man · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Too bad they didn't use three lamps per window; red, green, and blue. Each controlled by a digital dimmer with 256 levels. The resolution would be even greater than the icons in your favorites folers.

  20. TU-Delft by Fuzzums · · Score: 3, Informative

    The TU-Delft did the same thing in feb. this year as a stunt. Only they used a 23 floor building to display messages and to play snake :)
    Sorry, I coundn't find pictures and the text is in dutch
    http://etv.its.tudelft.nl/commissies/lustrum/stu nt .php

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  21. Better than what I did. by slim · · Score: 5, Interesting
    When I was at Aston University in (um) 1994, I lived in one of three neighbouring 20 storey tower blocks, all student residences.
    Prompted by tales of this having happened in the past, I created a poster consisting of a picture of a desk lamp, a date and time, and the words "watch and copy", one of which I placed in the foyer of each building.


    At the allotted time, I turned off my main room light, and began flashing my desklamp on and off. Within 5 minutes all three towers were shimmering, including, I'm told, the faces not visible from my window.


    It was a neat, if not original, social hack, and a lot of fun... This thing in Berlin is much cooler technically of course.

  22. Reminiscent of the Green Building by red_dragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This reminds me of the various hacks done on the Green Building at MIT, my favourite being the VU metre.

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  23. Re:yeah, but... NOT offtopic by jridley · · Score: 2, Informative

    He's referring to a similar project a couple of years ago where you could play tetris on a building using a controller attached to the lights in the building.

  24. Cool Project, but... by libertynews · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems to me that it would have been alot easier to maintain and control if they had used X-10 controllers with wireless modules to span any splits in the power lines. The others reader's idea of colored lamps would be neat as well.

    I don't know if there are X-10 modules available in Germany though. Seems like an awful lot of work to run all that power around the building when you could just plug the lamp into a control modules and run it all with a firecracker X-10 serial controller.

    Brian

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    1. Re:Cool Project, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      X-10 would take to long. It takes .63 seconds to send 1 command.

  25. how it is done... by psych031337 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here is a quick summary of the tech behing the buzz for all those who don`t want dig through "fishy" translations:

    8 stories with 18 windows each

    each windows is illuminated by a pretty standard contruction lamp with 150W

    each lamp is connected to a relais (sp?)

    the "Blinkenlights Chaos Control Center" is located in the top story

    each relais is connected to the control machine with a simple amplifying circuit

    5000m of cable were used (about 5500yards)

    3 networked machines are used for central switching control, playing console and remote control

    to ensure even illumination all windows have been covered with white paint

    The entire setup took less than 4 weeks from idea to realization

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  26. Entirely Relevant by jaavaaguru · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The BBC Reported A student group at Brown University converted their Science Library into a giant video game screen by installing over 10,000 Christmas lights in the windows. on Wednesday, 19 April, 2000. Someone said this was "Off Topic", but as it also appeals to people who get excited about using large non-comkputer-oriented objects as video displays, then it is entirely relevant. I like the idea of both this and the CCC Blinkenlights. Talking of blinkenlights, try telnetting to here and see a starwars movie via telnet. I think this has been around for about as long as the CCC's Blinkenlights page has.

  27. blinking lights! by Marcus+Brody · · Score: 3, Funny

    I posted my loveletter to the CCC, took my sweetheart to the restaurant across the road, and sat down at the prime wndow table. Staring romantically towards the glowing lights, framed by the shimmering stars and a huge moon, my message appeared....

    "Linda, Will you mar"

    Unfortunately, I had forgotten it was only 18 x 8 pixels. Darn. Then there was a powercut.

  28. This has been asked before, but... by cr0sh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...I have to ask it again:

    How are they really able to do this?

    I don't mean the technical part (that part is relatively easy, from a hardware standpoint). I mean the legal/economic part?

    Perhaps they got a grant for artistic reasons - but I tend to doubt that because they did it in four weeks.

    The building seems to be pretty large - how did they:

    a) Obtain an entire building for use for several months, and
    b) Were allowed to paint 144 windows, and
    c) Get the money to pay for bandwidth and electricity (somebody is paying it!), and
    d) Do all of this inside of four weeks

    ???

    The building can't be vacant - though it kinda looks that way from the pictures. Still, somebody owns it, and has to pay electricity and other costs, and would thus have to pass that along to the CCC (unless they have a "rich" member of the CCC who owns the building, which is quite possible), right?

    Furthermore, wouldn't there be permits and such for such large public displays that would have to be procurred from the city government? Maybe things are radically different over there, and such legal stuff is easy to obtain in a very short amount of time, or not needed at all.

    Maybe I am misunderstanding what CCC is? What function do they perform (I don't think they are a hacker group, right? Wasn't that something called the Kaos Komputer Klub?). I am just curious how they managed to pull off such a large display without running into financial or legal issues.

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    1. Re:This has been asked before, but... by Markus+Peter · · Score: 2


      > a) Obtain an entire building for use for several months, and
      > b) Were allowed to paint 144 windows, and

      The building is scheduled to be torn down in a couple of months, so I guess this answers questions a) and b)

      > c) Get the money to pay for bandwidth and electricity (somebody is paying it!)

      The main cost factor AFAIK is actually replacing burnt-out bulbs.
      Playing Pong there and similar actions require calling a rather high-cost telephone number where the CCC will receive a share of the income, and taking the huge (press and otherwise) echo of this project into account, it should be able to cover the costs completely.

    2. Re:This has been asked before, but... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

      If that is the case, then it answers the questions, most surely! But then, it begs another question, all the same:

      How did they get permission (ie, from the owner and the city, not to mention any insurance company) to use what is essentially a "condemmed" building?

      Unless things really are VERY lax over there - such use would have a snowball's chance of happening here in the USA!

      BTW, do you have any links where they (the CCC) discuss this aspect?

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    3. Re:This has been asked before, but... by Mike1024 · · Score: 2

      Hey,

      a) Obtain an entire building for use for several months

      They would only have needed to aim lights at the front windows... thehy wouldn't need the building, just to point lights at the windows.

      b) Were allowed to paint 144 windows

      Around christmas, stores stock that spray-on snow, which is consistent and white, but which cleans off. It wouldn't be too hard to get hold of some, I'm sure...

      c) Get the money to pay for bandwidth and electricity (somebody is paying it!)

      From the site: "Use your mobile phone to play the arcade classic Pong right on the house. Just dial the number 0190-987654 (DM 2.42/min)". It's the same rate for love messages.

      d) Do all of this inside of four weeks

      The electronics would be fairly simple... just repetitive. Good software would be harder, but the CCC have pleanty of capable programmers.

      Michael

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  29. Re:bah by nomadic · · Score: 2

    Finally, if you are going to reply to this (e.g. to write the word 'FUD' a lot) then for God's sake, log in! If it's important enough to reply to, then it's worth burning karma on. Karma really isn't that big a deal.

    Yep, what's the point of getting karma if you're not going to spend it? For example, I'm posting this at +1, it's going to get modded down at least twice, but who cares?

  30. Lasers in Davos by Aztech · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This reminds me of the World Economic Forum in Davos (Switzerland) last January, the town sits within a valley with snow covered mountains each side, they used a high powered laser to project words onto the snowy hill above the town, you could submit messages through the web or via SMS (GSM text).

  31. Featured in a video of the Toten Hosen by he-sk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Also, when Blinkenlights are taken down (hopefully not to soon, but hey!, I just live ten minutes away), you can always enjoy part of the performance in the new video by the Toten Hosen, a German punk-band (from Hamburg, that is).

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  32. Even though you got mod'ed down to hell... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    I have to ask you "WTF are you talking about?"

    First off, while I am certainly not the youngest on /. I know I am not the oldest - I am 28 years old!

    As far as being a tree-hugger, while I certainly don't like the practices some companies do to the environment, I certainly do not wish to shut down the entire industrial sector and go live in the woods - I believe there can be a happy medium.

    Finally, I fail to see how any of this has to do with my question?

    I was sincerely curious as to how they pulled this off - and from what I have found out, it seems they have done it with an abandoned, possibly condemned building. I was originally figuring they either had a rich person who was a member of the CCC who owned an entire building for himself (hey, I have nothing against this - it would be that person's money to decide what they did with it), or they possibly used a building under construction.

    The idea that they are using a building slated for destruction makes the most sense, though. However, I still find it amazing that they got the permission to do this from all relevant sources. Of course, as one person replied, I am sure with big hint of sarcasm (and perhaps irony), it is possible because Germany "is a free country". I understand this individual's meaning.

    What he said and the fact that such a display would be nigh impossible to do here in the USA says something about our society - and that troubles me.

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  33. I have a picture!! by Telek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was there from Nov 28 to Dec 02 just wandering around Berlin, and I saw this and took a picture. you can find it here (take a note of the uptime, that's a W2K machine!)

    In any case, it was pretty cool and I was watching it for a while, but that really doesn't look like a house, it's an office building in downtown Berlin... well "downtown" Berlin...

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