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Is the Agenda VR3 Linux PDA Dead?
An Anonymous Coward writes: "LinuxDevices.com has published a news item about the uncertain future of Agenda Computing and their VR3 linux PDA. According to the article, some members of the Agenda developer community are continuing work on current projects, but many have switched to other projects such as the Sharp Zaurus. Apparently there is an Agenda Germany office which is still shipping the VR3s (including to the U.S.) and which has said that they are continuing VR3 development -- but's not clear whether that means software or device development. Looks like another cool linux device has bitten the dust. Sigh."
piss in the morning!
I don't know. Do you have to buy a device because it runs Linux? Maybe there are better OS-es for PDA's.
-- Cheers!
Their code base was not all GPL and the device was expensive. I remember some NDA type stuf on their page too. I was interested but those things kept me from going any further into it. Hardware vendors beware, software should be free. All of it.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
I knew that penguin shit wouldn't work! Linux sucks!
No , but BSD is.
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Imagine a beowulf cluster of dead Agenda VR3's
etc etc etc etc
How was this groundbreakingly different, and what did it offer over any other PDAs.
Any product that tries to cash in on the "Linux is cool" will find that people are looking for substance, not gimmicks.
I doubt there were many people that considered it a serious player in the world of PDAs.
I am not saying this to start trouble, I believe it just needs to be said.
Linux is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Linux community when last month IDC confirmed that Linux accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Linux has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Linux is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by falling dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Torvalds to predict Linux's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Linux faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Linux because Linux is dying. Things are looking very bad for Linux. As many of us are already aware, Linux continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Linux leader Linus states that there are 7000 users of Linux. How many users of Linux are there? Let's see. The number of Windows XP versus Linux posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Linux users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Linux posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Linux. A recent article put MS Linux at about 80 percent of the Linux market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Linux users. This is consistent with the number of Linux Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of LUG's, abysmal sales and so on, VA Linux went out of business and was taken over by dead frozen monkeys, who sell another troubled OS. Now REDHAT is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that Linux has steadily declined in market share. Linux is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Linux is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. Linux continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Linux is dead.
Linux is dying
This device bothered me.
The company that created it touted how it ran Linux, tried to rally the open source programming troops because it ran Linux, but never bothered to give it the ability to actually *SYNCH* with Linux.
I hope this does not happen with the uber cool Sharp Zaurus.
Veni, veni, veni.
So sick and tired of those dildo pod looking shit devices.
Give me a PC anyday
A beowulf cluster of beowulf clusters!
Every non-PC commercial device using linux died unless they had MAJOR corporate backing. VR3, Indrema,...
geeks Dilbert people?
marketing travelers?
I dont knom.
Has sockwave flash support?
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Looks like another cool linux device has bitten the dust.
Looks like a device that was not working when 1st shipped has fallen to market forces.
Why?
Simple: If you are going to pay for something, you expect it to be useful. It doesn't help when your primary market (the GPL advocate) runs about chanting "free" and the poster-boy OS 'claim to fame' (GNU/Linux) is the re-use of old computers (gotten for free). Look at VA Software, which used to be VA Linux. Largest 1 day IPO run-up, who worked to get the Linux name, worked to be RID of that liability.
The BSD camp however, knows that you can build value. So does Apple, and look at how well Apple has done after they decided to use BSD to build value.
An "Fuckface" Anonymous Coward smacks: "LinuxDevices.com has shafted a wanks item about the thrusting uncertain future of Agenda "Fill me up" Smooching and their VR3 linux PDA. According to the article, some members of the Agenda developer community are cuntlicking work on current projects, but many have switched to other cocksucks such as the Sharp "Muffdiver" Zaurus. Apparently there is an Agenda "Omar Pussy" Germany office which is still blowing the fomping VR3s (including to the U.S.) and which has said that they are continuing VR3 development -- but's not clear whether that motherfucks software or device development. Looks like another cool linux device has bitten the wanking dust. Sigh."
... there's already some interesting ideas coming out of the VR3 project ... offhand I can think of that Snow ABI which considers building apps in a different way to be more memory thrifty ... unlike a PC with virtual memory, a PDA is severely constrained with no guarantee that a wireless connection will be available. Some of the ideas could be extrapolated ... for example, if you have a transmeta chip, could the ABI refactor themselves in memory (ie reorder libraries to drop non-used portions?) What about mechanisms to detect dead code or where the memory/code hierarchy changes (think reconfigurable chips hibernating in spare memory slots as one HK uni research group published).
... perhaps we need to consider next generation hardware advances to .... ummm ... create the hobbit ABI. Think reconfigurable. think non-linear memory, think small embedded devices that can join together in a single complex task, think auto-optimisers/refactors a la JIT.
I mean, we evolved from the dwarf binary format to elf
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PDAs don't sell very well if they ship with a half-baked OS and the expectation that your customers will fix it for you.
The community itself is currently debating the best way to move off of Agenda Computing's servers (which are likely going to disappear without notice in the next several months). Once the community switches over, all of the software can be maintained by the community.
Other people, such as myself, are working on Linux-based PDA software that is platform independent. PicoGUI, for example, runs on the VR3, the Helio, PC's, OS X (I think...), and several embedded systems. With this kind of development, the success of the software does not depend on the success of any particular piece of hardware.
I think this has nothing to with LINUX. And the GPL is good because how often has it happened that good code was lost because the company went under.
The problem with palmtops is that I have tried and tried to use them. But what I keep going back to is the smallest leanest notebook possible. And many other people think the same way. A Palmtop is in many ways a "toy".
"You can't make a race horse of a pig"
"No," said Samuel, "but you can make very fast pig"
The biggest problem with marketing Linux-based PDAs is the miniscule software catalogue.
I'm not referring to the wide range of GPL'ed Linux applications that work on Linux PDAs (read: can be possibly made to work with reduced features after 'just a bit' of massive re-architecting and 'just a few' 36-hour porting/hacking/debugging sessions). I'm talking about the tiny pittance of ready-to-run pre-packaged apps, compared to the thousands of apps already available for Windows CE/Pocket PC and PalmOS PDAs.
While I'm a fan of Linux and Open Source, I have to acknowledge the catch-22 problem of trying to capture market share for Linux PDAs when Microsoft and its PDA minions - Compaq, HP and Casio etc, are barging their way in with the support of huge R&D and marketing budgets - and attracting the attention and efforts of legions of corporate and independent software developers who smell the $$ and cut their code, confident that they will recoup their development costs and make a profit before their apps end up on the warez/crack sites, Morpheus, Gnutella etc.
Growing software catalogues feed bigger hardware sales, and vice versa.
The moral?
If you want to push a new hardware/OS combination into the market, all you need is a few billion dollars behind you, and allow some time for the developers to get on board and feed your credibility with a software catalogue before you *have* to turn a profit.
-- In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was UNSIGNED, and the main(){} was without form and void...
you can out me in your pocket and press my buttons! HELLO LONELY GEEKS!
I always figured it was because it had a lame monochrome display with a shoddy 16 levels of gray scale while the rest of the world had color!
Now I find out that it's because of its shoddy OS and shoddy programming... Gosh... I guess even us Linux zealots can be wrong!
-- Many men would appreciate a woman's mind more if they could fondle it
You are kidding right ? There are roughly three players in the marketplace right now
Symbian who run on Mobile phones like the Nokia Communicator (I have one, its superb), and Psions
WindowsCE on those lovely iPAQs, and they are lovely to use even if you hate Redmond
PalmOS single threaded poor quality OS, with a large user base.
NONE OF THESE ARE GPLed. All of them are successful.
People do NOT look to buy a PDA because they can hack code on it. Sure I can develop code for my PDA, but the OS ? Its a commercial product, I don't want it to fail. If you buy an PDA only if its got a GPL'ed OS then you are limiting your choice and are certainly not the mass market.
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
Linux v EPOC (A full ground up 32-bit RTOS)
Stability ? None of my EPOC machines have ever crashed
Customized integration ? Drag and drop word, excel, powerpoint or whatever docs to the device and back, sync with Outlook.
Security ? SSL, Digital certificates as standard.
Low Feature Creep ? Its a good thing that you don't get more features ? Even so all of the documents produced on my old Psion work on my new Nokia.
Does only what you want it to ? Does all that and things I hadn't thought of an now love (record a memo).
In terms of stability, integration and security EPOC blows Linux away, the major reason is simple
It is an OS designed for small devices from the ground up, not the porting of a big iron OS to a small device.
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
It looks like a product marketed almost solely at the technical community just can't succeed in economic conditions like those at present, if ever.
Even industry heavyweights with large technical communities are in trouble (Psion - who invented the handheld computer - are pulling out and there are continuing rumours about the future of Palm), so what hope is there for a newcomer to the market? (Sharp take note! :-) )
The parent company of Agenda Computing, Kessel International Holdings, had severe financial problems. The Stock Exchange of Hong Kong suspended trading in Kessel shares on 23rd May 2001.
Agenda US was said to be "temporarily closed" because Agenda Germany (Agenda Computing GmbH) as an independent company was planning to establish an office in US (which would have become the new Agenda US). Apparently they were never able to come up with sufficient funding for that (at least not yet).
This is what we have heard from an ex Agenda employee Shane on the Agenda mailing list (I hope I got it right).
The financial problems might have been one reason why they started selling Agenda VR3 when it was still way too unfinished as a product. But there were also some technical problems such as not having enough available RAM. It made it harder to quickly come up with usable set of PDA applications. I guess it was the result of trying to push for a too low price point.
Anyway, I continue using my VR3. It is a nice device and certainly has been one step forward for Linux PDA devices. I am just sad that the step didn't carry very far.
There is LOTS of software that MIGHT work on such a platform.
But, in chasing Microsoft to "rule the world", design decisions like GNOME happen. Look at the bloat of 'modern' UNIX programs, as opposed to the System III equivalants.
When programmers think about writing code that is small and efficent, then you *MIGHT* end up with a codebase for PDA's based on Linux/BSD.
a month or so ago. I figured then that they must be discontinued. I was going to get one (hard to resist at the price) but didn't get around to it. I don't know if any are left. I'll check next time I'm there. Really though, the device was just not all that impressive. I don't know what I'd use it for if I had one. The Zaurus is a lot nicer.
According to the Zaurus booth at LWE, the Zaurus will not ship with sync for Linux, only Windoze. Linux control software is "In the works".
Agenda's problems had nothing to do with linux and its fitness or lack thereof for PDAs. It died because it was pushed out the door before it was done. They weren't done with the OS, they weren't done with apps, and they weren't done with the hardware. It was pushed out the door because of the financial difficulties of Agenda's parent company.
Actually, with the latest kernels and romdisks, the Agenda is a pretty nice device for the low end of the PDA spectrum But its not consumer-ready and probably never will be now. But it could've been. I use it as my everyday PDA currently. But I also have a Zaurus and will probably switch to it once I have a few spare cycles.
A bigger issue I have with Agenda is that I don't think the target market was a winner. I don't think the low end of the PDA spectrum is where a business wants to be. Its up at the high end with the iPAQs, Jornadas, and Zaurus where anything interesting and profitable would be happening.
INTRODUCTION
Eating a woman's pussy is about the most wonderful thing you can do for her. It makes her feel loved, admired, sexy, and of course it makes her cum like crazy. Many women prefer it to intercourse, and for most, it is the easiest way to cum with a man. You may have the littlest dick on the planet, but if you give great head, you will be appreciated as a fabulous lover. Yes, it's that important. Besides, lots of women expect it these days - you might as well know what your doing.
First off, guys seem to have a strange love/hate relationship with women's genitalia. Guys that can't wait to get their dick into one are often reluctant to put their face "down there". For every guy who says he loves to eat pussy, there's another one who's squeamish. Women know this, and it affects their ability to lay back and enjoy the experience. There is nothing more exciting to a woman than to know that her partner finds her delicious. Don't be coy; tell her. When a guy fingers a lady and then smells, licks, sucks the juice off his finger and sighs as if in heaven, she knows this is her lucky day.
What if your sweet lady doesn't smell or taste very sweet? Don't suffer. (Don't complain, either.) Take a nice hot shower or bath together. Lather up both of your bodies and slide them together. It's like a whole body fuck. Soap up her vulva, washing between her outer and inner lips. Spread her lips apart and gently wash her clitoris. Hey, don't stop - this feels great! Run your soapy hand down the crack of her ass, and rub a finger all around her anus. You can stick one finger in and wash around inside too, if you anticipate any anal play, and I suggest you do. But don't put those soapy fingers up her vagina. Instead, rinse them off well and stick one or two inside, making a circular motion. Think about washing the inside of a tall glass - same thing. Now wasn't that fun? And now you can feel free to let your tongue wander anywhere it pleases...
So now what? You've found a comfy spot to play, you've been kissing passionately, your tongues darting around each other's mouths like playful otters. You've moved down to nibble one of her hardening nipples and she's starting to groan, grinding her pelvis against your stomach. STOP. I know it was just starting to get good. But was she really groaning and humping you, or was it your own excitement you were detecting? I strongly prefer to be excited before a guy starts plunging his tongue into my inner recesses. Use your judgement, and kiss, lick, and fondle your way down her stomach, up her thighs, until she's arching up her back trying to get you to eat her. Of course, if she really was groaning and grinding, go for it...I also don't particularly enjoy a guy endlessly nibbling my inner thigh while my clit is quivering in anticipation.
POSITIONS
If the woman you are with is somewhat hesitant about your going down on her, start off with her lying on her back, perhaps half-sitting. Lay down between her legs, with her legs over your shoulders. She may enjoy laying or sitting at the edge of the bed with you kneeling. She can also straddle your face, but be prepared to get very wet. There are endless varieties of positions where you can press your face up to her cunt, some of which strike me as more acrobatic than erotic, but feel free to experiment. And then there's 69...
69 is one of my favorite positions. On the plus side, you both get to enjoy the sublime sensations of getting head, simultaneously. The upside down positioning of a woman's pussy and your mouth is an easy fit and there's more room for your hands. On the negative side, it's a less than ideal position for a woman to give head. Plus, if you need to read this article, you may be better off concentrating your energies on pleasing her, without too much distraction. But even for experienced 69'ers, it's easy to short-change your partner. "It feels soooo good, I'm just gonna stop for a second and concentrate on what you're...aaaarrrgghhh". Get the picture? Some show of will-power is in order.
69 can be done male on top, female on top, or side by side. The latter two are easier, though it's more restful with both partners laying down. Some women love being licked on all fours, so if female-on-top 69 drives her wild, take the hint and find some other ways to eat her in this position. I happen to enjoy male on top, but for many women this is a sure choking position. If a woman can, or wants to try, to deep-throat you, this is THE position. When her head is thrust back you can really slide your cock all the way down her throat. But don't forget what you're supposed to be doing!
So there you are staring at it - the mysterious hole from whence you came, and into which you hope to cum again... First, an anatomy lesson...
THE CLITORIS
Before I go any further, a few words about the clitoris, accent on the first syllable. Most of you know it, but for those who don't, it is THE woman's sex organ, period. It may feel great to be fucked vaginally, anally or otherwise, but if the stimulation is not right there, on the clitoris, you're ignoring the place that's going to make her cum, and presumably that's why you're reading this, right? It's right there at the top juncture of her inner lips, a small knob of pink flesh. This is where it's at boys, and don't forget it. Almost any licking and sucking of the labia or vaginal entrance is going to feel just dandy; just remember that this is pleasurable teasing, not the main event. I can't tell you how many guys have thrust their tongues up my vagina thinking that this was going to make me cum. They were wrong. Of course, with a little manual stimulation....but I'm getting ahead of myself.
Women feel differently about how much direct stimulation they can take on their clitoris. Some women will adore it if you suck hard on their exposed clits, others will shriek in pain. You may encounter a woman who is completely unable to take direct stimulation of her clit; the goal is still the same, but you'll have to stimulate it indirectly, such as through her labia. IMPORTANT NOTE: Often, what is unacceptably rough at first may be fine after she's very excited. The fact is, most women really need a good bit of stimulation before a targeted attack on their clitoris, but once they're there, that's where you want to devote your attention.
The key here is go slow, ask questions, and if she's comfortable with it, leave the lights on and really explore. Body language often does tell what feels best, but I promise, she will appreciate your attentiveness if you ask outright. If she seems shy, get her to guide your hands and mouth with her own hand, and pay attention. If she starts bucking up against your mouth and gasping in ragged little breaths, for God's sake, don't use this opportunity to try something different. Just keep doing exactly what you're doing.
THE TONGUE
I want to reiterate, there is almost nothing you can do that won't feel terrific, so relax! I promise, you may be confused and uncertain, but she's in heaven. Any licking and sucking of the labia, vaginal entrance, clitoris, or anal area is going to feel just great, and I'd no sooner tell guys to "do it exactly like this" than I would tell every chef to follow the same recipe. But for those who are compelled to RTFM, here are a few techniques that you might like to try:
Try lapping her pussy from vaginal entrance up to her clit, leaving your tongue soft and jaw relaxed. This is a good way to start your tonguing.
Run your tongue between the inner and outer labia on one side, while holding the two together with your lips. Good job, now do the other side.
Fuck her pussy with your tongue - in and out, around and around, etc. This feels nice. Not wonderful or incredible or earth-shaking; nice.
Spread her outer lips with your hand. Then, with your tongue pointed and stiff, gently flick here and there. Feel free to roam, but keep coming back to her clit. This drives some women wild, and others can't take it. Some may prefer that you always leave your tongue soft, so when you try this, pay attention to whether those moans are ecstacy or pain.
The following techniques should not be introduced until your partner is really hot (i.e. she's no longer coherent). These are very intense actions which may be "too much" for some women, even when nearing orgasm.
With her clit still exposed, give it a quick little suck - pulling it into your mouth briefly and letting it go. This is a lot like licking a bit of cake batter off of your pinky. This feels incredible, and is a fine thing to do if you feel like torturing her (see PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER below).
Take her exposed clit into your mouth and gently (at first, anyway) suck on it, simultaneously flicking your tongue over and around it. This can be done very lightly or very aggressively, and combined with fingering, will usually rapidly produce an intense orgasm.
Another choice technique involves rolling your tongue into a tube. If you can't do this with your tongue, you can't learn it - it's genetic. For those who can, this works best in an inverted or 69 position. Roll your tongue into a tube around the shaft of her clitoris. Slide it up and down; in effect, your tongue makes a tiny pussy for her clit to fuck. This also is likely to bring her over the edge.
FINGERS
Fingers are a valuable adjunct to eating pussy. Most women masturbate by pressing a finger or fingers over their clit, possibly "thru" the skin of their inner or outer lips, and vigorously rubbing in a circular or back-and-forth direction. You can do this too, and it is most helpful to ask, or better yet, have her show you how she likes it done. You will never be a good lover until you can bring your woman to climax with your hands. When you fuck her from behind, or up her ass, or really in any position which doesn't allow her to simultaneously rub her vulva against your body, reach down or around and rub her clit. I know it's distracting, but just do it anyway. One important point to note: make sure that your fingers are well lubricated. There is nothing more uncomfortable (and sometimes downright painful) than a dry finger roughly rubbed across one's clitoris.
Of course, that's not all you can do with your fingers. One technique which is very exciting is to spread her lips wide apart with one hand, and with your index finger straight like a pencil, flick the side of it rapidly across her clit. This motion alone will often bring a woman to orgasm. Combining this with the addition of some tongue action elsewhere is nothing short of bliss.
Sticking one or more fingers inside her vagina is also wonderful. You can simply move them in and out (this feels best with at least two or three fingers, pushed in hard), or wriggling them around. A particularly intense motion is to face your hand so that you have two fingers inside her with your palm facing the front of her body. Now move your fingers rapidly, as if waving hello. You are aiming to stimulate a particular part of the woman's vagina - namely the lower anterior (front) part. When combined with sucking her clit, this is nearly certain to bring her to a fast and intense climax.
An excellent way to begin manual stimulation is to stick one (and later two) fingers inside her, with your palm cupped over the mons area. I'm talking about that fleshy "mound" over her pubic bone. Your finger goes in and out and the ball of your hand is pressed hard against her vulva. You may want to rub or even shake the entire area with your palm.
Fingers also do nice things to tight little butt holes, but that's a whole other story...
ANAL PLAY
This stuff is purely optional. If anal play doesn't turn you on, don't do it. If you're uncomfortable, she'll pick up on your feelings and start wondering if it's her pussy that's turning you off. Don't feel that you can't be a good lover without anal play; you can.
Cleanliness is of the essence. (remember that nice soapy shower?) Scoop out some luscious juices (from a very wet pussy) with your finger and rub it around her anus. (If she isn't well lubricated, saliva works too.) If that's all you or she feels comfortable with, fine - it still feels great. But I think most women enjoy the feel of a finger pushed up their ass while they're being fucked or eaten. You need to be gentle, possibly even leaving your finger still. Try moving it in and out a little, or around in a circle. If she starts moaning, you know you're doing something right.
It's really fun to feel a woman's anus rhythmically squeezing your finger as she cums. (And it's great for her, too) You're probably thinking about what that would feel like around your dick, and it's something you should certainly explore. Ass-fucking is somewhat out of the scope of this article, but suffice to say, if she doesn't like a finger up her butt, she sure as hell won't want your big dick up there. Even if she does enjoy this sort of play, she may still be somewhat apprehensive about putting something so large up there. The keys to success are sufficient (i.e. copious amounts of) lubrication (a water-soluble type such as K-Y, which is safe for condoms), relaxation on her part, and a slow, gentle, approach. She'll certainly tell you if she wants you to thrust harder or deeper. And remember, if you want to feel that delicious squeezing around your cock, reach around and diddle that clit!
As for anallingus - why not? Don't feel like you HAVE to do it to satisfy your woman. But if the idea turns you on, great. Let your tongue rove as it pleases. It's not necessary to actually put your tongue inside her butt to stimulate the area. Back and forth, around and around, you get the picture.
One hygiene note: once that finger (or your penis) has been inside her ass, don't even think about putting it anywhere else. Carelessness in this regard can cause a horrendous infection.
MENSTRUATION
I haven't met a lot of men who are completely comfortable going down on a woman when she has her period. But some are. Most women are at their horniest before and sometimes during their period. You should definitely find a way to make her cum when she's bleeding, be it thru intercourse, manual, or oral stimulation. If you feel comfortable going down on her, great. It's perfectly safe. You may suggest that she insert a tampon, and then wash up. (As you now know, you don't need to get anywhere near her vagina to make her cum.) Or you could lay down a few old towels, turn out the lights, and forget about it.
PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER
I think variety is crucial. Some guy posted an article detailing a road map of kissing and licking (first here, then here, etc.) Much better to do the unexpected; sometimes a hungry, aggressive approach, other times a laid-back, leisurely one. You can even even include your nose, or your chin into the act. Start slow, that's the key, and let your lover guide the speed of the crescendo. In all cases, start gently. Roughness and clumsiness are big turn-offs. As she gets more and more excited, pay more attention to her clitoris. When she's three breathes away from cumming, moving your mouth off or away from her clit is agony. That's fine if you're intentionally torturing her, just understand that this is what you are doing. The only prohibition is to be reasonably gentle with her clit. Nibbling or biting is fine elsewhere, but we're talking about a sensitive spot.
Speaking of prolonging the agony... I think this is great fun. Bring your partner just to the edge of orgasm, and stop. This is not easy unless you really know your lover well. Instead, just have her help you. Say, "Grab my head and stop me just before you think you're gonna cum." Then take your sweet time. Blow on her clit, take it into your mouth just briefly, flick it just the very slightest bit. You will have this woman squirming and moaning like she's dying. Finger her deeply, enjoy the ecstasy you are imparting, and finally, have pity. Let the poor woman cum.
UUUUNNNNGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! (or, I'M COMING!!!)
Okay, she's practically suffocating you, she's pressed so hard against your face; she's screaming and bucking up in the air; you feel her pussy contracting wildly - how long should you keep it up?? The simple answer is, until she makes you stop. Some women may stop you after five seconds from the start of their climax, others may be able to roll right into another orgasm if you keep going. Do come up for air, but remember, her excitement does not drop off as sharply as yours does. Play it safe by continuing the stimulation.
How many times does she need to cum? Some women are very content to have one orgasm. A whole lot of women would really like to cum again, but need about five minutes to recoup. Many women are so sensitive right after they cum that they may push your head violently away. This doesn't necessarily mean they've had enough, only that you need to stop for a few minutes. In fact most women, given a short rest between, are capable of cumming again and again. A smaller percentage of women are able to cum repeatedly with continued stimulation. This is the much-touted multiple-orgasm that is experienced by a minority of women. I know this makes it difficult to know when enough is enough, but there's a simple answer: ask her.
GODI'MSOEXCITEDITFEELSGREATBUTIJUSTCAN'TCOME
It happens to all of us sometimes - distraction, embarrassment, anxiety, or just an inability to "let go". What do you do about it? The first question is, can she easily bring herself to a climax in the privacy of her own home. If the answer is no - then she needs to do some homework. There are two books on the subject that I know of: For Yourself: The Fulfillment of Female Sexuality by Lonnie Barbach, and Sex for One: The Joy of Selfloving by Betty Dodson; pick up one. Then tell her to read it, study it, and practice, practice, practice!
Now if your partner is orgasmic only when alone - ask her point blank: "Is there something different I can do?" Many women are shy about criticizing their lovers, but if asked outright will surprise you with a very specific answer. It may be a simple matter of mechanics, like a little to right please, or not so rough, or more pressure and faster. Ah... perfect.
But suppose everything is wonderful. She says you're doing everything right but she just can't cum. There are two probable causes: selfconsciousness and/or self-loathing. For women who can't help watching themselves, the best approach is to eliminate anything that focuses her attention on what the two of you are doing. This is a "be here now" kind of thing - definitely not an introspective activity. Get that mirror off the ceiling. Dim the lights or turn them off completely. Put on some soft music. Share a glass of port. (I said A glass - getting drunk will definitely not help). Have her lay on her back, or propped up comfortably with some pillows. This is not the time for her to sit on your face, or the edge of the bed, or standing up against a wall. Arrange a time when you can devote a long period to eating her pussy, and then just keep it up. Forget everything I said about asking her questions - just close your eyes and get into it. I know this can be a difficult and exhausting exercise, but she will be extravagantly thankful for your efforts. It gets easier each time. If all else fails, get accustomed to masturbating together. Gradually begin to add your stimulation to her own, right before she's about to cum anyway. Over time, you can take over completely.
For women who themselves feel that their cunts are dirty or distasteful, all of the above methods may be helpful, but the underlying issue must also be addressed. I am amazed at how many women are ambivalent about their own genitals. They don't love "that part" of their body, and they can't believe that you would either. Yes, it is important to be clean. But clean means a daily shower which includes washing the vulva. It doesn't mean vainly attempting to remove every trace of smell or taste. The natural fragrance and secretions of a healthy woman are beautiful and erotic. Hopefully you agree (and if not, try hard to cultivate this attitude). When she learns to love her pussy, she will be infinitely more comfortable with your loving it too.
I have one Agenda VR3 and I have to say: few
times in my life I was more disappointed with
something. Technically the device is very powerfull
but it seems that they concentrated only in
hardware. If at least I could get java to
work correctly with it then I could use it more
(actually java only works with it when your
code throws no exceptions!)...
Their website makes the device look very appealing
but the reality is that there is no decent software
to support this hardware. Agenda still is nothing
more than one very expensive toy...
Some people have looked into porting POSE (the Palm OS Emulator) to the Zaurus and other Linux handhelds, so that it could run Palm apps. Unfortunately, POSE needs a Palm ROM image, and those are not freely redistributable. You'd need to have a Palm anyway to get it to work. And the speed would likely be atrocious on a 200MHz ARM chip. It's not full speed even on my K6-II 500MHz.
I had a different idea. The Palm SDK's are available, and there's prc-tools and such for Linux. Why not create an emulation layer for the Palm API, like Wine emulates the Windows API on Linux?
The Palm API is better-documented, and much simpler. It'd probably be fairly easy to get to at least Palm OS 2.0 or so. Then you could recompile Palm apps for a Linux PDA. There would be a speed hit due to redirection, but the underlying processor is much faster; overall I'd think there would be a speed boost.
You'd still need to recompile, but there are lots of open-source Palm apps, and lots more developed with Linux; the developers might have good motivation to quickly port their app to a new platform.
I think the endianess is the same, so that's not a problem. To be legally safe there might need to be a clean-room effort, I'm not sure yet, but this'd be a way to get a lot of apps for, e.g., the Zaurus, and quickly.
PHEM - party like it's 1997-2003!
Since linux is usually run on throw-away 486 boxes, what company in its right mind thinks it can SELL $400 little machines to these same people? Apparantly not one long for this world.
From your giant flying friction blaster!
(dumass)
By any chance was it a VR3D? You know-the model intended for developers. I believe that is when it went on sale *FOR DEVELOPERS*. Unless I am getting my dates mixed around (and according to Linuxdevices they started shipping consumer versions in May, you bought a developer edition) which if you followed the mailinglists was known to be a beta test of both the hardware and the software, and people were expected to know how to work on it. If you aren't a developer, you don't have the right to complain because you bought something that you shouldn't have and it didn't work the way you wanted it to.
That means device development. Software development is being done by the user community.
Agenda Germany should concentrate on hardware, since that's not something that we can do by ourselves very well. I'd rather buy a mass produced Agenda with 16MBytes of RAM, rather than spend hours soldering.
I owned a developer edition for a while. It was the most disappointing PDA I have ever owned, especially when you consider that it only had a serial port and Agenda's proprietary IO connector. Top that with limited RAM and flash space, short battery life, and the same price as a much more capable iPaq 3135...
-- Terry
...A developers edition (which means it has a different color case).
It's a piece of junk. It has no end-user benefit over a palm III series. In fact, it is generally slower and harder to use than a palm III. Despite it's 66mhz processor the thing just did not perform. It's a device so unattractive (from a software/hardware POV) that only a true linux geek could even accord it pity enough to use it.
If Agenda Computing keeps up their MS-style practice of pushing their products to market before they've matured, they'll continue to find themselves where the are now- in the hole. Heck, they didn't even bring anything really new to the world...
My 2 cents.
Wow! This must be a PERSONAL letter, just for me!
I bought the device as a developer, fully knowing that the device was not ready for the mass market, BUT at the time the message from Agenda Computing was that the consumer release was to happen within 4 months. That statement to me implied a certain level of readiness and usability in the software and hardware platform which the device failed to meet from the very beginning.
It quickly became obvious that IMO the device was not going to be anywhere near usable for about a year by anyone but hard-core hardware, kernel and X11 hackers who would be working out the issues with Agenda's hardware and their software distribution.
I bought the Agenda to develop productivity applications for a viable platform, NOT to help Agenda Computing in chasing down their bugs and fix poorly implemented core features.
The platform was not viable simply because of the poor usability of the character recognition system that no-one was working on in any sugnificant manner.
Cheers.
But even though I had been willing to shell out $250 for it, I got one for less on ebay. I've had it for a week, and I love it! Consider:
- Easy to program. I can develop
for it an run code natively on my Linux box,
without emulators or other stuff.
- GPL, and documented file formats.
I can write my own code (and have done so)
to sync
data reliably, i.e., correct conflict
resolution when records are changed both
on the PDA and the desktop.
- No need for Wintendo. Although
there is Linux support for most PDAs,
if you have to upgrade the OS, it seems
like vendors only provide
.EXE
files. That doesn't help those of us
who do not use the garbage from Redmond.
- The Right Philosophy. Full CVS
access to the sources, Open mentality.
Come on! We all
bitch and moan about Sony, but how many
of you have gone out and bought their
PDAs "because they're nifty", despite
the evils commited by the company?
- Great price. Not everyone has
$500 to spend on an ipaq
or Zaurus or the latest nifty toy.
It has its flaws... lots of them. But for the price, it's easily the best thing out there.The Sharp Zaurus only runs Qt/Embedded. It will not share the screen with any other toolkit, and if I develop for Qt, I may end up having to pay steep licensing fees. Thanks, but no thanks. The point of Linux is that software is compatible among different Linux machines/devices and that I'm not forced to use just the software that some hardware vendor decided to impose on me.
The Palm, on the other hand, was invented after the designer carried a block of wood around in his pocket for a month, pondering what the PDA should act like. Agenda Computing could have used a good block of wood.
I work for the largest (paper) agenda company. We supply agendas for almost 50 % of North American schools. I called up Agenda VR3 and said, hey, let's talk. Maybe there's something that we can do here. Unfortunately, I never heard back from them. We then made arrangements to sell Palms, and VR3 was left out in the cold, where, apparently, they are freezing. We've had some corporate changes lately, and our relationship with Palm is in question, but there was an opportunity there that the VR3 people seemingly just ignored. Too bad!
One of the reasons for using Linux is its versatility. If manufacturers want a Linux device to take off, they need to put some of that versatility into it. USB, Ethernet, and a standard expansion port would have made a big difference in the success of the Agenda.
No one ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke!
I was very excited when I first heard about the VR3 and was going to buy one as soon as it was released ... untill I read more information about it. It lacks in storage space and RAM compared to other PDA's and has utilities that you can get from the net, like mp3 player, but no room to actually put them to use unless you map to the RAM which is always a bad idea.
Like most other geeks, I have a long history of hardware addiction. I love my VR3 because it packs a lot of functionality into an incredibly small package. Even better, it runs straight up Linuz and X, so it is a hackers dream! I hope the Agenda manages to stay around, because if it does then it has unlimited potential. Linux software support grows exponentially for a new platform, and for the VR3 it is just now starting to take off.
James
http://james.nontrivial.org
From the article...
some developers have now switched to other projects such as the Sharp Zaurus
"Switching" from one Linux platform to another? It's a little ironic that part of the demise of this Linux PDA is something that can't/doesn't really happen to Linux on the desktop and is actually something that keeps the community together -- developers don't usually have to pick and choose which distribution/hardware/etc their Linux apps will run on.
It's true, I was being lazy and cheap but that's my right. Another poster has pointed out that I might have been wrong about my assesment of their licenses. In this case the lesson is double: Even the perception of restictions is enough to keep a community from forming. It was enough to keep me from buying one.
As for that troll on the soap box, there are ways coders can make money besides working for some devilish company that wants to resell their telnet client ever year. I suggest you learn how, and fast.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
Agenda's U.S. phone and fax numbers have been disconnected
:) somewhere in October or November, but the letter was returned. The USPS reason, if I remember well, was 'unclaimed'. I don't know what that mean, but my guess is that they were in a so bad shape financially that they could not afford the USPS fees to collect their prepaid mail...
Not only that: I sent my registration card by mail (yes, I did it on the internet too
I agree. There is nothing inherent about the technology of Linux that makes it less suitable for PDA's.
:-) I'm pretty much BSD-only these days, as I can *do* *what* *I* *want* with the code, without any strings attached.
But PDA's by their nature, are a bit more proprietary, where vendors try hard to differentiate themselves from each other. (Who would stand out in a group of a dozen PDA's that all run RedHat 7.2.)
Any successful PDA isn't going to be a public domain project, but a business venture. And BSD's licensing makes a more viable foundation than Linux. It breaks my heart, as I have used Linux from the start, but GPL is just too "restrictive in it's forced freedom"
And it still amazes me how people dump on using Linux or BSD on PDA's (why bother). These are *excellent* general purpose operating systems that are far more flexible than Windows CE and PalmOS, and can be made to not use a lot more resources. I think they're a perfect base, even if that's completely hidden. The big trick is to get a proper application suite on top of it, that is workable on a PDA. No standard X apps nor window managers are workable on a PDA. Qt's attempts are better, but still leave a lot to be desired. Once the productivity apps are there, and workable on a handheld form factor, you'll see FreeBSD/Linux PDA's take off...
-me
Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
If so, they're not making it obvious. I just went to google and typed in "xserver zaurus". Approximately 7 hits came up, 2 of which were in German, a few more in Japanese, and one pdf doc that I didn't bother to read.
- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
In addition to the SNOW/non-SNOW issue, there were some horribly inefficient things going on in the code to the "schedule" app (the calendar) - such as division and multiplication being done to extract bit-slices, and repeated calls to localtime() on the same time, rather than caching the result. Ulrich Pfeiffer has fixed versions (including an "xdelta" patch for the 1.1.1S romdisk) at http://www.wait.de/agenda/ .
-j.
Had very bad B5 quote. Probably have very bad karma, but at least there is symmetry.
I tried it, and I am glad I don't own it. It screams unfriendliness from every pore. Granted, my Palm has spoiled me, but the guy who borrowed me his Agenda (no pun intended) was disappointed like hell.
Here's a Linux PDA I think might be a winner.
And an advice: don't buy ANY Linux of WinCE-based PDA before you try a Palm first. You must understand what a PDA is for, whether you need it, and what level of friendliness you need, if you think a PDA can be useful to you.
Sigged!
In theory, what you suggest is possible, but in practice it would be much more difficult than you might think. I have personally created an implementation of the PalmOS 4.x VFS APIs to support Visors (PalmOS 3.1 and 3.5) with CF card adapters and it ended up taking an order of magnitued more effort than originally planned. The problem is that the PalmOS APIs are loaded with undocumented behaviours and side effects that a great many apps rely on for correct operation.
And that doesn't even begin to address the problem of most large commercial apps using undocumented features and directly accessing private OS data structures. PalmOS has little memory protection and a significant portion of the OS source has been released under NDA to developers who use the information gleaned from that source in ways that defy good programming practice.
Never the less, it's a great idea and there would be plenty of apps that could be easily ported. If someone decides to organize such a project, count me in as a developer :)
- Dave Kessler, President - Kopsis, Inc.
- http://kopsisengineering.com
Imagine a Beowolf Cluster of THESE!!!
Most servers run with only a text-mode console display, or they run entirely headless. Should we scrap them because its not X?
X11 can fully support text-only applications, as well as Qt-based applications. Qt/Embedded does not support X11-based applications. Get the difference?
This whole post just makes no sense.
Perhaps that's because I have developed handheld software and you haven't?