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GBA Internal Light Ready?

Dark Paladin writes "Looks like Portable Monopoly , the internal Gameboy Advance light, is finally ready to move beyond Vaporware and launch. The price for the kit? $35. Finally - me, a dark night, and my GBA. " Perhaps with this, we can revoke GBA's current title holder as "Worst Screen Ever". Still, Golden Sun is a great game.

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  1. How soon before... by gpinzone · · Score: 2

    ...Nintendo sues the poor guy for making an "unlicensed" GBA add-on?

    1. Re:How soon before... by Hnice · · Score: 4, Insightful
      No, no, you want real pain, and a smack in the face to all of us -- as well as this guy, of course, who's been doing this for months

      How soon before Nintendo, who just dropped the gba price to $80, starts marketing a new model, with a light like this one, to re-sell to everyone who purchased one of the current crap-screen models, simultaneously revealing their plan to screw us, and rendering this great work a nice experiment but nothing more?

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    2. Re:How soon before... by Eccles · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How soon before Nintendo, who just dropped the gba price to $80, starts marketing a new model, with a light like this one

      Nintendo is brain-damaged when it comes to providing lights. They could have sold millions of Gameboy Colors with a built-in light for $50 more than the base GC, but never did. Likewise, they could have made a killing selling a deluxe unit with better speakers and a larger screen, but nope.

      Also, the PM guys may be trying to patent their lighting system just to discourage Nintendo from taking their design and selling it themselves. (Although I doubt PM would discourage a nice profitable licensing arrangement.)

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    3. Re:How soon before... by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

      Locally, two major retailers have the GBA at $69.99, and one of them is throwing in a free case on top of that too. GBA is already extremely successful, and the price is dropping so drastically so soon after launch? I've heard nothing officially about a new modified model, but something is getting me excited over the prospect of these babies coming out some time soon.

      Personally, I'm very satisfied with my current GBAs...they have worked great under reasonable lighting conditions (someone else posted this: reading light is more than adequate), even with the older first-generation screen. I've heard rumors that the neweer GBAs come with Panasonic (not Sharp) LCDs, and are somewhat brighter, but I've never noticed any difference in screen quality between newer Japanese black/orange GBAs and my older models.

      Still, on a totally unrelated note, Golden Sun is a great game. <snicker>

      < tofuhead >

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  2. It wasn't that bad by .sig · · Score: 5, Funny

    The GBA is simply highly dependant on the art on Feng Shui and contortionism. All you have to do is position it in the right manner, especially in relation to any light sources in the room, and it becomes clear as a bell. It's even easier outside, just make sure that there are no large objects preventing the suns rays from striking the screen.

    It's not just a game, it's applied art!

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  3. Viva La Revolution! by boris_the_hacker · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is great, I can now go old school and play on my GBA under the covers of my bed. Just need to make sure the girlfriend doesn't get wind of it, or even better get her a GBA, and a copy of Mario Kart and Advance Wars. Only today I was in a queue for tickets and was gagging for this - the lighting was less than wonderfull, I had to relegate Tony Hawk to my bag.

    But seriously, I hope that this is very successfull and Nintendo take note of the the popularity and get's it sorted in the future, as the screen is great most of the time but there are always times when it could be JustThatLittleBitBetter(TM). Even so the GBA is an awesome toy :-)

    I just hope they start shipping soon, otherwise I am sure the Pocket Game Cube will be out =P

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  4. Hurray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yay, getting Linux on a GBA was hard enoughin the dark, i'll tell ya. Now i can actually SEE what i'm doing! Yay.

  5. Tired of GBA-bashing by PowerTroll+5000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Admittedly, the screen is small, and not backlit, but I've been able to play it for extended periods of time by folowing a simple rule for reading.

    Plenty of ambient light. Yes, the very same light one uses for proper book reading is more than adequate for GBA-playing. I've played it comfortably on airplanes, on my couch and yes, even on the can.

    The small screen lends itself to problems, but that's what makes it portable. It's a trade-of at this point, until LCD screen technology imporves.

    The bottom line: I spent $100 a while ago, and have enjoyed it plenty since.

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    1. Re:Tired of GBA-bashing by cornflux · · Score: 2
      I've played it comfortably on airplanes, on my couch and yes, even on the can.
      Sounds weird to those that are GBA-less, but the bathroom really is one of the better places to play... plenty of light (either natural or artificial) in an enclosed area with light colored walls (think albedo). Just remember not to get too excited while playing... you might drop it(!) or risk a few strange looks from others after doing your business.

      Anyway, I can't wait for the internal light... it's been months since I've played Castlevania.

  6. Who did the QA on the GBA? by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I've only used the GBA a handful of times, and must admit the lighting is awful. All I want to know is who Nintendo had test this before it went to market. A pack of rhesus monkeys? Unlike the Gamecube, PS2, or X-Box, it isn't like there is huge competition for the handheld game market, and they already had a near perfect brand name to build on. Why did they rush out an otherwise fine product out with that one major flaw?

    With this internal lighting now available, I might finally plunk down the $$$ for my own GBA.

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    1. Re:Who did the QA on the GBA? by Rayonic · · Score: 2

      "Why did they rush out an otherwise fine product out with that one major flaw?"

      You just answered your own question earlier:

      "it isn't like there is huge competition for the handheld game market, and they already had a near perfect brand name to build on."

      Competition is good, you see. They probably considered putting in their own backlight, but said "fsck it, they'll buy it anyway." So they get to say the GBA runs a ton of hours on a single battery charge, but in reality people have to use uncomfortable lighting situations or portable lights that drain the batteries much faster.

  7. Not the worst screen ever by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If you think it's the worst screen ever, play the original game boy again. There, now do you remember how blurry it would get whenever the screen scrolls? Now put an original game boy or color game boy cartridge in your GBA. Amazingly visible!


    It's not the screen that's the problem: it's only with certain games (Castlevania, Circle of the Moon being the biggest offender).

    1. Re:Not the worst screen ever by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I said original game boy. The game boy color certainly isn't blurry. Pocket might not be either, never saw it--I'm talking about the huge one that needed 4 AAs.

      In any event, if I put Game boy color games in my game boy advance, they look just as if it they were in my game boy color, except that I have the option of stretching it (with the L and R buttons)

      So, the game boy advance screen is strictly better that the game boy color screen.

    2. Re:Not the worst screen ever by iapetus · · Score: 2
      It's not the screen that's the problem: it's only with certain games

      It is the screen that's the problem. Games attempt to compensate for its deficiencies by brightening the sprites, but it's still abysmal for even the brightest of games in less-than-perfect light, and the angle of light falling on it has to be perfect.

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    3. Re:Not the worst screen ever by G-funk · · Score: 2

      Hehehe, the original gameboy wasn't huge... I remember back in the day being glad my gameboy wasn't as big as a gamegear, and my mate with the gamegear was glad it was nowhere near as big as a lynx :-)

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  8. If You've Never Used a GBA... by Skirwan · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...you probably have no idea what the point is here.

    For the uninitiated, the GameBoy Advance lacks the internal backlight present in the older non-advance GameBoys. This makes it very difficult for some people to play in some lighting conditions.

    Such as, for instance, everyone, everywhere.

    Visual Aid

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    1. Re:If You've Never Used a GBA... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 2

      I can't believe everybody is replying to this post with "Dude, none of the other Game Boys had lights, either..."

      It was supposed to be a joke. Pointing out the irony in everyone's complaint that the GBA has no light, when NONE of the other Game Boys ever have, either.

      I have a Game Boy Color and the screen is usable in the right conditions. I've toyed with getting the Advance and I can honestly say that in the right lighting it's not THAT much worse.

      Still, seeing this Kit makes me want to get an Advance so I can install the Kit. It's got a certain geek charm... or at least it will until I run into some 10 year old who modded his GBA also...

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    2. Re:If You've Never Used a GBA... by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 2

      It's the color that kills the viewing on a color LCD, from what I understand. Instead of going through a single (black/white) layer of reactive liquid crystal, you have to get light though three layers on a color screen. even worse, without backligting, you just have the reflective back to help you. The light goes through every layer twice, which gives a total trip of six layers of crystal.

      Aside from the color, GBA screens are remarkably better than the original GB. Compare the contrast of an original GB to a GB Pocket. The color is better, the contrast is better, and the screen is actually shades of gray instead of yellow to green.

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  9. It doesn't matter! / EBAY by mekkab · · Score: 2, Informative

    Much like the PS2 vs. X-Box...

    The GBA is backwards compatible and has more games out than any new comer. So I'd buy this... you can't go wrong.

    And with the addition of this backlight, I'd ACTUALLY think about buying one of these (played it in Target (that's TAR-JAY! to you) and hated the screen... played Tony Hawk with my little cousin, and still hated the screen)

    Now what *I* can't wait for is when people start buying GBA's in bulk, buying the Portable Monopoly backlight in bulk, put 'em together, and sell 'em on E-bay for a quick killing...

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  10. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Makes me wish I had some sort of manual dexterity so I could install it.

  11. How much does it affect Battery life? by ProfBooty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I checked the faq and unless i'm missing something, i did not see any mention of effects on battery life.

    Any idea how long it a pack of batterys would last? I believe the GBA runs for around 15 hours without any backlight.

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    1. Re:How much does it affect Battery life? by kvandivo · · Score: 5, Informative

      You're missing something.

      One of the FAQ items was: How does this affect battery life?

      and the answer was 30-40%. They have been seeing around 10 hours of life using the light all the time.

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  12. Parent links are broken; try this one instead by yerricde · · Score: 4, Informative

    GameFAQs is referer protected. Following a link from another site to a GameFAQs URL that does not end in "/", ".html", or ".asp" produces a server error. Try this link instead.

    ObTopic: The light improves the Golden Sun experience tremendously.

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  13. Original GB didn't have a backlight by yerricde · · Score: 3, Informative

    For the uninitiated, the GameBoy Advance lacks the internal backlight present in the older non-advance GameBoys.

    The Game Boy didn't have a backlight. The colored-case Game Boys didn't have a backlight. The Game Boy Pocket didn't have a backlight. The Game Boy Color didn't have a backlight. The only backlit Game Boy systems were the Game Boy Light (released only in Japan, not in America or Europe) and the Super Game Boy (which required a Super NES and a TV and did not have a link port unless you got the rev.2 model, which again was sold only in Japan). You're confusing the Game Boy Color with the Sega Game Gear.

    Now that the GBA is backlit, and Sonic the Hedgehog is appearing on GBA, does that make it a Game Gear Advance?

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  14. More GBA modding by pacc · · Score: 2, Informative

    Combine this with the TV-out modification
    and you will have the coolest GBA available.

    http://www.lik-sang.com/catalog/product_info.php ?c ategory=6&products_id=1496&

    Anyone with an overclocking kit?

  15. Re:FINALLY by iapetus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Is something bigger/better coming in the next few months?

    No. And if it were, it probably wouldn't make much of a difference - GBA's predecessors have seen off superior technology in the past without blinking. If you think MS has a monopoly on the OS market, it's nothing compared to what Nintendo has in handheld gaming. :)

    About the only thing that could make a dent in that would be Sony and/or MS entering the handheld market, and that isn't going to happen for a while, if at all.

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  16. lasec by 13Echo · · Score: 2

    The $35 price tag is very reasonable when you compare it to $1000 for lasec surgery.

  17. The Screen is OK by Tom7 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let me put in my vote against the common conception that the GBA screen is horrible. In fact, it is nicer than all of the previous Game Boy screens. Some games (Castlevania) have made the mistake of having really dark graphics -- but this was true even on the GBC (Paperboy?).

    I can see my GBA fine as long as there is a light on or I'm outside. I might get the backlight for playing in the dark, but I've had plenty of fun playing through several games with its screen as it is!

  18. Just so you know... by spacedx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The GBA has a reflective LCD screen, hence the reason it needs a direct lighting source. And had you bothered to read the PM FAQ, you'd know that this mod is a frontlight, not a backlight.

  19. "Portable Monopoly"?? Worst Reuse of a Name Ever! by GeekLife.com · · Score: 2

    Oh, wait, no, that goes to DivX.

  20. C'mon guys read the press release by Svet-Am · · Score: 4, Informative

    The light is not ready. They are finalizing info with the manufacturers and wont even be shipping until mid-April.

    Of course, I'm buying one, but get the info straight. Maybe that should be the job of the slashdot editors: double check the accuracy of info before they front-page it...

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  21. Re:FINALLY by powerlinekid · · Score: 2

    Actually I think the sony psone combo unit (the little white unit thats battery powered and comes with a 5 inch lcd) is sonys testing of the waters so to speak. If I hadn't wanted FFX so bad, I probably would of bought one of those. I mean think about the psone combo, its quasi handheld, it already has 600+ games and can also be plugged into a television. Damn cool gadget.

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  22. Sony already tried in Japan. by Thag · · Score: 2

    They had a GBA-like device called the Wonderswan that could interface with PSX games like GBA will be able to with GameCube games (and the Sega Dreamcast VMUs could with the Dreamcast).

    As far as I know, it realy hasn't set the world on fire.

    If anyone else has more details, please post!

    Jon Acheson

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    1. Re:Sony already tried in Japan. by Jayde+Stargunner · · Score: 3, Informative

      Incorrect. The Wonderswan (and Wonderswan Color) doesn't interact with the PSX. I believe you're thinking about the PocketStation--which is very similar to the Dreamcast VMU.

      The Wonderswan is along the name lines as the Neo-Geo Pocket...simply a GameBoy competitor. (Both of them were released before the GBA but never managed to gain enough market share to fend off the GBA's release frenzy.)

      Both the Wonderswan and NGP have been beaten into the ground by the GBA for no other reason than that Nintendo's got the handheld market in the bag.

      -Jayde

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    2. Re:Sony already tried in Japan. by _Bean_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      More details sure.
      The Wonderswan isn't made by sony but by BANDAI and it has nothing to do with a PSX

    3. Re:Sony already tried in Japan. by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

      He may also have been confused by the fact that the NeoGeo Pocket Color could also hook up to the Dreamcast (Capcom/SNK games, etc), similar to what the original poster had thought about the WSC and PSX.

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  23. Re:portable monopoly ? by Bastard+Jim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You have to understand why he chose this domain name in the first place. It was initially setup to be a place to sign a petition to ask Nintendo to create a version of GBA that didn't have a screen which sucked. And well, I personally think the description of this is fits Nintendo well? But over the past couple of months, after R&D'ing like a madman, the PM site owner realized that he could forgo the petition and just DO something about it, and it seems as though he has come through. But the site remained. He just kept updating it. Anyway, if you're talking about the name of the actual product. Not sure what it's called yet.

  24. Re:FINALLY by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

    Hold on. The games are great, fine, but many are saying that the screen was bad (I don't think so). That's a valid reason for some people not to buy one. I personally have several, because this issue, while valid for others, is irrelevant to me.

    Will I be buying an add-on screen? Maybe, but I want to witness one in action first (and use other people's experiences as QA). Would I buy a new officially-released GBA with a switchable light already built-in? Yes, but not because I'm dissatisfied with my old units...I'd buy it for the additional ability to play in otherwise total darkness. If people want to wait until such mechanisms are standard before making their buying decision, that sounds sensible to me.

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  25. Re:FINALLY by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

    I predicted the early 2002 launch and $200 price of the PSOne LCD combo unit in a /. post last year, but I've come to realize that it's still not worth it for the price, especially if it's being compared to the GBA or Dreamcast. It's about 4x bulkier than a GBA without a battery (walkman-sized unit, screen w/speakers, controller(s), and power cable), it has problems with shock, and if you consider that the 5" screen costs $130 on its own, the PSOne in the combo is still $70 (which is $20 more than a superior Dreamcast base system).

    Sony's marketing mantra of "wherever, whenever, forever" regarding the PSOne seems to be indication that Sony really wants the PSOne to remain a competitive platform, but IMO it's just a ploy to milk as much from this now obsolete platform as possible. (By "obsolete," I refer to the fact that PS2s are backwards-compatible, just as GBA is backwards-compatible with GBC, another "obsolete" platform.)

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  26. There is no backlit GBA (and that's a good thing). by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

    There is no backlit GBA yet either, and I hope there never is one. Since the GBA screens are reflective they require an external (front) light source. The internal lights that portablemonopoly.com and portablemonopoly.net (different folks!) are talking about are front light sources, although for a while .NET and .COM were using different technologies (the .NET guy has since ended his plans of competing with the .COM guy...dumb story).

    Basically, a GBA __with its current reflective screen__ and an internal switchable front light is the ideal portable gaming solution for many reasons, far better than a backlit system. Reflective screens fare better in sunlight than backlit screens, reflective LCD screens use less power than backlit LCDs and are inexpensive, and in the presence of ample lighting, you can turn the internal light off to conserve power (you can't turn the backlight in a backlit LCD off and really expect to be able to see anything). Nintendo perhaps should have done this from the beginning, but they made the trade-off in order to cut manufacturing, design, and support costs.

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  27. It's very cool by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

    The existing screen isn't bad. It's fantastic in sunlight, better than a backlit screen would be.

    The only thing that's bad about it is that everybody expects to use it in the dark or near-dark. People are using it in less-than-ideal lighting conditions, which is bad for your eyes anyway, like trying to read a fine-print book in the dark, only the words are in different colors and are moving around the page. With a front-mounted internal light, you get the best of both worlds, for reasons I stated in another post.

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  28. Re:I wonder... by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

    Hiya Lawrence,

    You of all people should know that the screen isn't the problem (it uses little power, looks better in sunlight than a backlit screen would, etc.); it's the fact that Nintendo didn't include a switchable internal front light of their own. I'm fine with it, but I keep hearing about how the screen sucks, and it just doesn't IMO.

    Unless, by "travesty," you mean, "travesty relative to other reflective LCD screens," I think there's a little bit of an oversight being made here. IMO, the PCE-GT/TurboExpress screen sucked (because individual pixels burned out easily and the backlit LCD drew lots of power), but I'm willing to bet that there are people here that would claim the opposite, just because they could play the thing in the dark. Same thing goes for the GameGear and Nomad, although I've never seen either with a dead pixel.

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  29. GP32 by Decimal · · Score: 2

    Is something bigger/better coming in the next few months?

    Yes. But it might take more than a few months to get here.

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