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Slashback: Decade, Fragmentation, RDRAM

Slashback brings you updates and amplifications on the SSSCA, the future of RAMBUS and Intel, fragmentation of filesystems, a book reviewer who's been publishing online longer than some slashdot readers have walked erect, and more. Read on for the details.

A screenplay written by Jack Valenti? cc_pirate writes: "Apparently Sen. Fritz Hollings (D - Disney, er - SC) completed his hearings today on how the media needs to have content protection included in computers. Intel and other high tech companies resist and are chastized by Hollings."

Penguins are the new Turtles. Gerein writes "After many months of extreme lobbying, personal attacks, public petitions and surveys, the war over the future OS of the Bundestag (German parliament) is finally over (previous /. stories). As heise reports (in german, use the fish) Linux won't make it to the desktops (they're going with XP) but will take over the 150 servers. The last critical question over the directory service has finally been decided in favor to OpenLDAP instead of Active Directory. It's not the complete victory for Linux, many had hoped for, but it's a start for more Open Source in the German government."

Full disclosure seems like a nice idea. Merlynnus writes: "Yahoo! is running a story, Copy-protected CD makers lose battle, in which Music City Records, Fahrenheit Entertainment and digital rights management company Sunncomm have 'agreed' to stop collecting personal info, and to label copy-protected CDs as defective, er, play-challenged in certain devices. The agreement came as the result of court action by a Cali resident, Karen DeLise, over the Charlie Pride CD, 'Charley Pride: A Tribute to Jim Reeves.' Did that CD really need copy-protecting?"

This should have been transparent. Metrollica writes: "It turns out the transparent aluminium article at Spiegel was misunderstood. Sci-fighter published a correction. The transparent substance was not aluminium but alumina, shorthand for aluminium oxide. Slashdot reported on transparent aluminium here."

Odds are, somebody's written a thesis on it ... and here one is. Whether in response to this Ask Slashdot question or just a lucky guesser, Cine writes: "The standard filesystem benchmarking tools such as Bonnie++, Postmark , Mongo and others all test the optimum case for the block layouting algorithm. But in practice one also is interested to know how a filesystem performs when it is or was heavily used over a longer period (e.g. months and years).So Constantin Loizides has written a Master Thesis about the performance of filesystems under the influence of fragmentation."

Intel-Rambus break not as simple as portrayed. Controlio writes: "Tom's Hardware Guide has posted a clarification regarding the EBN story with the sensational headline, 'Intel to drop support of Rambus in new CPU products'. The article was also posted on Slashdot. Tom reports:

EBN had the sensational headline Intel to drop support of Rambus in new CPU products, but the story goes on to say, "Intel will continue using Direct Rambus memory with its network processors. Also, although not new products, the next iterations of its 850 and 860 chipsets, supporting a 533MHz front-side, will support RDRAM when they arrive, probably in the second half of this year." A little misleading, wouldn't you say? Hard to tell, but you read it for yourself, and make your own call.
Great. More sensational journalism. Maybe someone should submit Jack Robertson's resume to Fox News."

Finally, some congratulations are in order. danny writes (does he ever): "February 28th marks the 10th anniversary of my first book review; there are now over six hundred. I have written an account of ten years writing book reviews, which illustrates something of how online publication has changed over the years."

206 comments

  1. Transparent aluminum by Whitehawke · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think the article originally claimed it was actually alumnium...certainly someone here on /. pointed out that it was not.

    --Dave Storrs

    1. Re:Transparent aluminum by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2, Informative

      if you mean this one:
      http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,165318,00.j pg

      than it is ceramic, not aluminium

      --
      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    2. Re:Transparent aluminum by lscotte · · Score: 2, Funny

      Agreed. Aluminum Oxide being transparent is non-news - that's what they've been coating laminate florring with for years. Yawn.

      In other non-news, an amazing discovery has been made on how to make water nearly transparent!

      --
      This post is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 License.
    3. Re:Transparent aluminum by global_diffusion · · Score: 2, Interesting

      you are correct. what is funny is that the person who submitted that had the username of 'Metrollica'. I may be wrong, but I do believe that I've seen his handiwork on quite a few trolls here (when I go surfing at -1). He certainly claimed credit for the last posting of the 'troll faq' that I saw.

    4. Re:Transparent aluminum by (outer-limits) · · Score: 2, Funny
      I agree with the previous post, what has it come to when well known trolls are supplying stories. Will we have
      1. sweetandsourjesus articles on how is bored and lonely
      2. articles with the latest information on, (and links to) goatse.cx
      3. how to widen a web page
      4. tips on getting a first post
      5. how to get around the lameness filter
      6. trolls getting modded up, rather than down?

      The mind boggles. I could go on, but this will probably lose me enough karma as it is.

      --

      Microsoft - Where would you like to go today, Maybe Jail?

    5. Re:Transparent aluminum by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Actually I submitted the story with the correct claim (Aluminium Oxyde) a day before it was published. DER SPIEGEL wrote the correct thing.

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted and ignored otherwise.
  2. Another related article by MiTEG · · Score: 3, Informative

    A screenplay written by Jack Valenti?

    More information can be found from the SJ Mercury article from today's paper, although it was written Dan Gillmore, who tends to be quite sensationalist in style but is consistently pro-consumer and anti-DMCA.

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    The future isn't what it used to be.
  3. walking erect??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "a book reviewer who's been publishing online longer than some slashdot readers have walked erect,"

    Waitaminnit! How come nobody told me we were supposed to be walking erect??!! Dammit!

    -ac

    1. Re:walking erect??? by ethereal · · Score: 1

      OOG, is that you?

      --

      Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

  4. The little dog? by DCram · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The content community ... has historically feared technology," Vadasz said. Yet every technological breakthrough -- from Thomas Edison's little dog to the invention of home taping and digital devices -- "has proven to be a major growth catalyst for the studios."

    THOMAS EDISON INVENTED THE DOG!!!
    OH MY GOD!

    I am at the moment trying to invent something as cool as the dog. I was going to go for a rabit/antelope combo but saw one for sale in the cabellas catalog. Now I think ill just strive for something like a human without any genetic defects. I think I could get a post on /. about it.

    WOW .. the dog!!! damn that man was good

    --
    If I were only smart enough to accomplish the things I dream about.. Or maybe too dumb to care.
    1. Re:The little dog? by teslatug · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well he keeps on inventing even though he has been dead for a while...first the electric hammer and the three legged chair, and now the dog

    2. Re:The little dog? by tb3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was going to go for a rabit/antelope combo...

      How about a basselope instead?

      --

      www.lucernesys.comHorizon: Calendar-based personal finance

    3. Re:The little dog? by Squalish · · Score: 2, Informative

      As mentioned in the Douglas Adams work "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency," Edison invented the Dog Door. It was brilliant really. A door within a door. Electricity was already there, he merely discoverred it. The dog door idea he came up with himself.

      --
      People in Soviet Russia, however, appear to be afflicted with amusing juxtapositions of the aforementioned situation
    4. Re:The little dog? by Galvatron · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yeah, what the hell is he talking about? What do dogs have to do with the media industry?

      --
      "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
    5. Re:The little dog? by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Thank God he got away from that witch out West.

      "I'll get you my pretty, and your LITTLE DOG too!"

      Too bad he didn't know about the water trick, huh?

      --

      --
      "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
    6. Re:The little dog? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know how many times I have seen this misconception in print. Thomas Edison did NOT invent the dog. He did, however, invent the LITTLE DOG. Think of it as the transistor of the dog world.

      For those of you wondering how this fits into the music industry, some of the earliest recordings made for Edison's phonograph are the little dog barking, and these are generally thought to be the early influences of such artists as Britteny Spears, Christina Arugula, and N'Sync.

    7. Re:The little dog? by Coward,+Anonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

      the three legged chair

      Six legged chair.

    8. Re:The little dog? by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      Or skunkopotamus?
      That's something that'd *really* impress me.

    9. Re:The little dog? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony's dog can kick Edison's little dog's ass any day.

      .. oh.. wait. Edison's electric, right? Darn.

    10. Re:The little dog? by ethereal · · Score: 1

      4. The "enjoy-a-Milk-Bone-in-a-commie-free-world" step.

      (guess you had to read the original comic :)

      --

      Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

    11. Re:The little dog? by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      But even before he did there were doors (for humans) in gates or larger doors.

      --

      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

    12. Re:The little dog? by coyul · · Score: 1

      Edison invented the Dog Door... Electricity was already there, he merely discovered it... A door within a door.

      Newton, not Edison.

      Catflap, not dog door.

      Gravity, not electricity.

      Inner door, outer door -- arguably could be interpreted as a 'door within a door', I guess.

      Been awhile since you read the book? Nice try all the same.

    13. Re:The little dog? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is anybody else suddenly getting this image of an endless doors-within-doors fractal?

  5. So times by metoc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wow.

    Maybe somebody should inform the good senator of how much money the high tech sector is worth and that it is distributed nationally, where as the movie industry primarily operates out of Southern California (percentage $$$ wise). He should be reminded that if a flaw is found, then every consumer item is vulnerable. Is he planning on setting up a firmware police to make sure your refrigerator won't play pirated software?

    Germany did find in my opinion. Going all of one thing is insane. An all Linux network is no better than an all Microsoft network. Lest ye protest, remember that they just found a major security hole in PHP. I wonder how many unpatched Linux boxes their will be after a week? They can join all of those unpatched Windows boxes.

    1. Re:So times by TMLink · · Score: 1

      Going all of one thing is insane.

      That is just a stupid comment. Use what makes the most sense for the job. That's what they did. If for them it had made sense for an all Linux setup (or an all Windows setup), then so be it. That doesn't automatically make it an insane choice.

      I agree with you that Germany probably did the right thing for them. Course, I don't know their situation exactly, but right now those two choices for server and desktop OS are pretty set (ok, so I'd go w/ 2000 instead of XP, but oh well...). So if what you ment to say was that in the current situation it doesn't make sense to go with just one or the other, then yes, I agree with you. But chose your words more carefully next time...otherwise people might not pay attention to what you mean, and instead only look at what you say.

      Jesus, I sound like an old english professor.

      --
      Every time a guy gets a threesome, somewhere in heaven an angel gets his wings. --Cary Tennis
    2. Re:So times by zaffir · · Score: 1

      By "what makes the most sense" you mean "what copy-paste function will our secretaries be able to understand", right?

      --
      "Upon attaching the waterblock to my penis, I began to notice that I know nothing about computers." -- JRockway
    3. Re:So times by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

      Which has got dick to do with servers, unless the Bundestag has combined secretary/network admin jobs.

    4. Re:So times by TMLink · · Score: 1

      What software do they run? Is there a viable Linux alternative? Do any of them run special programs that require Windows?

      I mean, don't get me wrong, I use Linux as my personal desktop...it's just that in that large of a group, I don't think it would be ready for deployment. You just can't second guess what that many people are going to need. Course you could do an all Linux setup, and give something like a dualboot option or give 'em a 2nd computer for everyone that would need Windows, but I think that would just end up being too much to deal with.

      Hopefully within a year or two, I'll be able to change my position...but I just don't think Linux is there yet. It's getting close though.

      --
      Every time a guy gets a threesome, somewhere in heaven an angel gets his wings. --Cary Tennis
    5. Re:So times by SEE · · Score: 2
      Yes. Unless the Free Software Movement is offering to pay for the extra time and effort adjusting to a new method is going to cost.

  6. Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by freerangegeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, am I the only one thinking if you can make windows out of alumina, that doping it correctly you can make a seriously BIG 'synthetic' ruby by doping said window with chromium? The article is non-specific about size, even a window of 4" square and 1" thick represents a pretty big honking ruby. Are sapphire (the other kind of alumina) and ruby about to go the way of aluminium itself?

    If I remember correctly at the time it was built, the Washington Monument was capped with an aluminum peak. This was done, because refined aluminum metal was both rare and precious.

    I'm thinking ruby drinking glasses, ruby soda cans, 5c ruby rings. You get the picture. :)

    Lee

    1. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by mangu · · Score: 3, Informative

      "big" artificial rubies have been around a long time, at least 40 years. The first lasers were built around artificial ruby rods that were about 1" diameter and 4" long. (That's 25mm diameter and 100mm long, for people who are able to understand non-moronic measurement units).

    2. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. But you have to remember that it is very easy to tell a synthetic ruby from a real one, they can already make pretty damned big synthetic rubies. They are still expensive to make (as in no pop cans...sorry)...and their size:value ratio is logarithmic compared to a real ruby.

      BTW, if you were somebody back in the day in Eastern Europe you had gold cutlery, but the kings had aluminium cutlery...just picture old Peter the Strong being really proud of his flashy new sprite cans.

    3. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by On+Lawn · · Score: 1


      Even ruby slippers?

    4. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by freerangegeek · · Score: 1

      Yes the process has existed and is expensive, I went back and researched the original article, it doesn't mention the cost of these alumina sheets.

      Years ago Nova reported on the gem quality synthetic ruby manufacturer (who dope's her rubies so that they fluoresce under black light). They're cheaper per carat for large stones than the kind mother nature provides, but far from dirt cheap. I guess it was wishful thinking on my part to assume the Germans had improved the process to where it was at a significant price reduction.

      Of course on further reflection, I should have imagined a "ruby" iMac which was actually ruby!

      Lee

    5. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by hickmott · · Score: 1

      When I was 12 -- that would be around 1973 -- My dad brought home a ruby for me. It was a cylinder around 8 cm. long and 1.5 cm in diameter. It was a an artificial ruby intended for use in a laser, but it wasn't quite optically perfect. It was a beautiful, pure red and worth about as much as a silicon wafer with a few too many impurities to make ICs on.

      By now they ought to be able to make optically flawed rubies at least as big as a baby's arm holding an apple.

      --Andy Hickmott

    6. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by adminispheroid · · Score: 1
      I believe this article is not talking about monocrystalline alumina, the novelty being getting transparency in polycrystalline alumina. Folks have of course been making transparent monocrystalline alumina aka ruby/sapphire for years.

      But while we're on the subject, I did my grad school work with a maser that used synthetic ruby. Had four pieces, each about 2mm x 4mm x 150 mm. I believe the set cost about $5000, and were made from a boule about 20 mm in diameter. So as gems go, these things aren't all that expensive.

      We also used sapphire washers a few places -- sapphire is both an electrical insulator and a good thermal conductor (below 100K), a rare combination. I'll never forget the time I caught an undergrad throwing one in the trash. He thought it was plastic -- he just about lost it when I told him it was sapphire.

    7. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by T5 · · Score: 0

      Most better watch crystals are synthetic sapphire, as they're very resistant to scratching and reasonably resistant to shattering.

    8. Re:Alumina (transparent or no...) Think BIG gems by copec · · Score: 1

      thats kinda funny, it was probably worth ALOT less then what it cost to produce.

  7. The Precedent by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "'Charley Pride: A Tribute to Jim Reeves.' Did that CD really need copy-protecting?"

    Well, the idea here, as in many unsavory endeavors, is to establish a precedent. Go after something nobody should notice and then claim "but we've been doing it for so long and the consumers accepted it."

    --
    the growth in cynicism and rebellion has not been without cause
    1. Re:The Precedent by iPaul · · Score: 1

      Charley Pride: A Tribute to Jim Reeves.' Did that CD really need copy-protecting?

      Amen, brother.

      --
      Leave the gun, take the cannoli -- Clemenza, The Godfather
    2. Re:The Precedent by csbruce · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The shit is not really going to hit the fan until Joe Sixpack sets up his new digital TV to his new digital video recorder and his new digital cable system and presses the record button and it says "Permission Denied".

    3. Re:The Precedent by kesuki · · Score: 1

      Actually as I recall the spur behind Charley Pride CDs having Copy protection was when Charley Pride was in his own home town and saw a whole rack of pirate CDs that he wasn't getting a dime of royalties from at a local store.
      Now the fact of the matter is that the no copy protection scheme is going to stop bogus CDs from being sold at retail channels. Still the labels could have told him it would help, and he might have believed them.

    4. Re:The Precedent by arkanes · · Score: 2

      Funny you mention a dime of royalties, since thats probably exactly how much he gets :P

    5. Re:The Precedent by wings · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the box(es) Joe Sixpack buys probably won't ever say "Permission Denied", it
      just won't work sometimes, and Joe S. will just think he messed up the settings somehow. Just like when my mom tries to tape something with her VCR and it either doesn't record, comes on at the wrong time, or tapes the wrong channel.

  8. There's a conspiracy afoot by iPaul · · Score: 2, Funny

    Every time I open a window to go the the common caue site to lookup the amount of money Fritz (Adolph? - I get names mixed up) Hollings received in contributions from whome (who?), Internet Exploder - well - explodes. There must be a conspiracy afoot.

    Since IE seems to not want to go to common cause's website, I can only assume that Adolph (Fritz?) Hollings has long and gratifyingly suckled from the teat of the MPAA/RIAA. (BTW www.commoncause.org and click on the soft money laundry - very informative).

    "If you do not put ze kopy protektion in de device vee vill put it in for you."--Fritz Hitler (or is it Hollings?)

    Anyway, Intel's right. I don' t want my PC turned into a VCR. I also don't want to live in a world where my O/S crashes because the DRM built into the CD player doesn't play with the DRM built into the motherboard. However, the crash confuses the DRM on the hard disk to notify the BSA that I was running a pirated copy of Linux and gcc. In turn it notifies Microsoft that I was dual booting, which generates a revocation of my EULA and a nasty letter. Using the magic of .Net web services, Microsoft also notifies the BSA, BATF, FBI, and the Boy Scouts, who all raid my home, looking for pirated software and Elian Gonzales.

    --
    Leave the gun, take the cannoli -- Clemenza, The Godfather
  9. Rambus by slashdot.org · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    EBN had the sensational headline Intel to drop support of Rambus in new CPU products, but the story goes on to say, "Intel will continue using Direct Rambus memory with its network processors. Also, although not new products, the next iterations of its 850 and 860 chipsets, supporting a 533MHz front-side, will support RDRAM when they arrive, probably in the second half of this year." A little misleading, wouldn't you say?

    I don't see how that's so misleading. the i850 is hardly the flagship of Intel's product line, and neither are their network processors.

    It's not like any of those are in products that generate the DRAM shortage...

    1. Re:Rambus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Network Processors" mean "Servers" according to my reading. From Intel's point of view, the Xeon and the Itanium are their flagship products.

      The story was misleading because it implied that Intel would be dropping Rambus for all of their product lines. The shift was really just in the "workstation" (higher end desktop) space.

    2. Re:Rambus by slashdot.org · · Score: 2

      The story was misleading because it implied that Intel would be dropping Rambus for all of their product lines. The shift was really just in the "workstation" (higher end desktop) space.

      Nope, they have an entire line of network processors. The IXP series (now called IXA).

      Intel has tons of Non-IA32 processors. Look at developer.intel.com

      It has NOTHING to do with IA32 based servers.

    3. Re:Rambus by thesupraman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unfortunately, I get around a !20%! speed advantage using rambus over ddr-sdram for serious scientific computations (large matrix inversions, primarily, for simultanious equation solutions).

      Rambus SIGNIFICANTLY kicks the arse of DDR (and certainly standard sdram), and the extra cost is well worth it in these situations. I wish people would stop trying to benchmark 'high-end' equipment by running office suite benchmarks on it and then think they are actually testing anything.

      Good code (and trust me, with runtimes in the days it is WELL worth having good code for these problems) does actually make use of the full capabilities of rambus, and ddr doen't even come close to catching up.

      I would love to see them produce 64-bit wide rambus dimms (the same width as ddr-sdram) as opposed to the current 16 bits wide, and THEN see the ddr try to keep up, as this would give them equivalent circuit board resource usage.

      The future of RAM (well, for a while) will be rambus type busses, as they make much more effective use of pins on the chipsets, and pins are becoming a scarce resource (look at the pincounts for the new hammer line from AMD if you don't believe me), allowing rambus to support many moer busses than ddr.

      Politically rambus is a complete failure, which is a pity, the technology is absolutly great, as is the real-world preformance FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.

    4. Re:Rambus by ChadN · · Score: 2

      Are these benchmark comaprisons for P4 systems each with equal configurations (other than one running DDR and one running RDRAM)? If so, it may be indicative of poor DDR support in P4 chipsets; in high end systems, one could use multi-channel DDR (installed in pairs, for example) for higher bandwidth, although I don't know that any motherboards support this.

      In any case, without more specifics, it is hard to know whether those results are a reliable basis for comparison. But, your point is well taken; matrix math can really make use of memory throughput, and is not as sensitive to latency issues, depending on the problem and its implementation.

      But, I think DDR can deliver equal or higher throughput (at least for a while), if chipsets and motherboards were designed for this.

      --
      "It's overkill, of course. But you can never have too much overkill." - Anonymous Slashdot Coward
    5. Re:Rambus by VAXman · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, I get around a !20%! speed advantage using rambus over ddr-sdram [...]

      What is unfortunate about getting better performance?

    6. Re:Rambus by thesupraman · · Score: 2, Interesting


      The unfortunate part is that intel may very well kill of rambus in the 'consumer' level (ie: where the best price/performance tends to be for computational clusters), to a large extent due to 'public' misunderstanding of benchmarks. A lot of people think that ddr is as good as rambus.

      For example, a lot of people trot out the 'latency' issues without understanding them. ddr requires a lengthy burst read of *64* bit wide data to achieve it's bandwidth, while rambus, also needing a brust read, reads only 16 bits per, resulting in a more 'localised' abiity to read memory, and therefore less wasted reads, which amounts to less wasted memory bandwidth.

      It is very interesting to have a look at the memory subsystems used in mainframes, where it is very normal to have a large number of effectively seperate, and not very wide, memory busses to allow much more efficient 'scattered' data reads without generating false dependencies between memory addresses.

  10. Big Ears by ParadigmLA · · Score: 1

    >Apparently Sen. Fritz Hollings (D - Disney, er - SC)

    Um, that's mickey mouse. . .what was he thinking?

  11. Re:WALK erect? by Usekh · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Come on, if you are reading and posting to Slashdot that is just a dream :)

  12. Don't knock country music... by Innominate+Recreant · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'Charley Pride: A Tribute to Jim Reeves.' Did that CD really need copy-protecting?

    With the huge success of a bluegrass music at last night's grammy awards, the demand for country (American Roots/bluegrass/traditional) music will, most likely, increase greatly.

    I, as much as any code monkey, love "music to code by" -- especially metal -- but I was thrilled to see O Brother Where Art Thou do so well. It was a great movie with an even better soundtrack.

    1. Re:Don't knock country music... by dickens · · Score: 1

      First time I've *ever* owned a Grammy album of the year (OBWAT), before or after the fact.

      Great album. Hard to pigeonhole as either country or bluegrass, though.

      I am a man of constant sorrow.

  13. Enough is enough by Silver222 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's time to go tell the content cartels to go fuck themselves. Fritz Hollings can go to hell as well. If the technology industy can't agree on standards blah blah blah. Shut the fuck up Fritz. You want an example of what my life would be like if the content cartels go their way all the time? Here we go....

    When I run, I really like my mp3 player. It doesn't skip like compact discs do, and it fits into my pocket. Oh wait, those aren't allowed. Ok...how about cassette tapes? Hmm...this is not as good, it's bigger and I don't have random access to songs. What's that Fritz? These aren't any good either? I can pirate stuff with these? Well, I guess I'm going to run without any of the shit that Hollywood pumps out then. It's not like Vivendi Universal is stepping in with an innovative new technology any time soon.


    And of course, I would like to tape that show that is on while I'm running. Can't do that now, can I? God forbid using a PVR too, those things are brutal for Hollywood. Ok...I just won't watch it then....


    I'm sure everyone on Slashdot knows where I'm going with this. If it becomes too cumbersome to access entertainment, people are going to look for something else. Lest our good friend, Fritz Hollings, the Senator from Disney forget, politicians are the same way. Too cumbersome, and before you know it, elected right out of office!

    --
    "It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times." Bill Hicks
    1. Re:Enough is enough by toriver · · Score: 1
      If it becomes too cumbersome to access entertainment, people are going to look for something else.

      I can just see the American bookstores and public libraries dance in joy at the prospect that people will go back to reading on dead trees again. (Easy access, needs no batteries, portable, not electronically tied to the purchaser... the benefits go on and on.)

    2. Re:Enough is enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my, you don't think there going to leave printed material alone do you? With the excuse of 9/11, I'm sure they'll come up with, they havn't already?, some way to deny access to or destroy/remove any material they don't like. And for sure will put laws in place to allow them to do such at any time to accomidate their fancy as it changes. This is of course, if all the religious nuts/religions and 'oh, won't someone just think of the children' crackpots haven't done so first.

    3. Re:Enough is enough by spyfrog · · Score: 1

      I have been thinking about one thing - what if we all went out singing RIAA protected songs on the streets without their permission and started to perform scenes from Disney movies? Would they sue us or would we be killed by the population for our bad performance of the material?
      Perhaps we should show them, the media lobby, that there is more than one way to use copyrighted material, that you don't need to copy it to give it to others? Why not an illegal concert in front of the senate? I am sure this would piss them off...

  14. Someone had to say it... by Telastyn · · Score: 2

    But I'm sure some slashdot readers have been walking erect for quite some time now.

    T1+pr0n==badness.

  15. Copy protection in hardware??? by jasno · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Did I miss something? Aren't these guys a little late?

    Computers already exist that can easily handle the compression, storage and manipulation of copyrighted content. Are they going to require me to turn in my home system? If not, then what on earth is going to stop me from hooking up my video capture card to the line out (which is going to have to be there to remain compatible with all of the billions of dollars of consumer equipment out there) and divx'ing their latest and greatest?

    Its too late!

    --

    http://www.masturbateforpeace.com/
    1. Re:Copy protection in hardware??? by deniable · · Score: 1
      Are they going to require me to turn in my home system?


      No, they'll have a government sponsored buy back scheme. You'll turn in the old evil computer and get a shiny new one with apropriate copy protection. Woohoo, new toys for everybody.

    2. Re:Copy protection in hardware??? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      There is copy protection in many capture cards. All ATI cards use the copy protection technology that so many tapes and now so many DVDs are equiped with. True that signal can be stripped from the video with about $40 in hardware without loss if you know what you're doing, and some capture cards don't even check for the macromedia signal either.

    3. Re:Copy protection in hardware??? by ethereal · · Score: 1

      That's the "macrovision signal", isn't it? I mean, who cares if people are illegally copying those stupid Flash animations, anyway?

      --

      Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

    4. Re:Copy protection in hardware??? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      I always misplace the two and I dislike both.
      Copy protection technology doesn't increase sales or reduce piracy, just as flash animations can't improve the quality of a website.

  16. Re:WALK erect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    honey, if you only knew. my darling squeezes my hard member with the strong, flexible, squishy muscles deep in her belly. then i bite her lips until she screams

  17. is Frisco in Cali? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cali resident California

  18. Creativity vs. Theft by StaticEngine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The underlying issue is not old media versus new technology. It is creativity versus theft," said Disney CEO Michael Eisner.

    Yeah, because The Little Mermaid, Atlantis, and Aladdin were very original ideas all thought up by the geniuses at Disney...

    1. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by lunenburg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's one of the fundamental issues. Disney has obviously benefited from the wealth of human knowledge available in the public domain. However, in their greed, they refuse to let any of THEIR contributions enter the public domain.

      This is a fundamental problem, and one of the reasons that Disney is just as immoral, if not significantly more so, than the people "stealing" their content. At least with the "stolen" content ideas get passed around - Disney et al would have knowledge locked up and only available to the highest bidder.

    2. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by Bilestoad · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You forgot to mention K^HSimba, The Lion King.

    3. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by thesupraman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ahh yes, but they don't derive, look at their view of such things as:
      'the kings new groove' (reality, the spaniards turned up and killed/tortured everyone)
      'the hunchback of notre dame' (reality, being killed for looking different)
      'pocahontis' (nope, I'm not even going to touch that one).
      'anastasia' (reality, the violent murder of the russian royal family)

      they certainly aren't COPYING stories, just rewriting history to be SO MUCH NICER, what more can we ask from our leaders (sorry, I mean media).

    4. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You forgot Hunchback of Notre Dame, Cinderella, Snow White, Winnie the Pooh, etc. The list goes on and on. One can draw parallels between the Disney business model and the Microsoft business model: take Intellectual Property commonly regarded as being in the public domain, then jealously guard it as your own! M$ is a little more blatant about patent violation (e.g. Stacker, Intellimouse). Disney just eagerly snatches up anything with an expired copyright that they think they can make a buck on, but lately they've been pretty blatent too (what Anime did "Atlantis" borrow heavily from?)


      Personally, I don't want any of my money to go to either one of these companies. Although M$ is actually dropping in position on the "Evil Empires" list, it is now behind AOL/Time Warner, Disney/ABC, and Enron...

    5. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by Galvatron · · Score: 2, Interesting
      what Anime did "Atlantis" borrow heavily from?


      Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water (you can do your own damn google searches if you want more)

      --
      "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
    6. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by zerocool^ · · Score: 2

      For anyone that doesn't know about the Atlantis scandal, they didn't just "not make up" the story of atlantis, basically they ripped the movie from Nadia and gave it a different title.

      It's hard to believe, but see for yourself: Nadia V. Atlantis
      ~z

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      sig?
    7. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      I know it's faux paux to stick up for big business here on slashdot, but while the premises and overall stories might not have been original, the telling was. Christ, look at Tolkien, one of the favorites around here; The Hobbit and LotR are pretty much a blatant ripoff of every European epic ever written (The Odyssey, Legend of Arthur, Beowulf, among many others.) It's not the story, it's how it's told. Disney uses bright colors and catchy songs to tell the story, which their audience seems to like.

      Or in geeky terms, just because Pine is an e-mail client and it exists, does it mean I haven't created something new if I write another mail reader? No, and Disney has taken old stories and told them in a new, creative (just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not creative) way. If you don't like them, just don't grace them with your cash. :)

    8. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by Alsee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That whizzing noise you hear is the point you missed flying by.

      He wasn't saying Disney is wrong for remaking all these storys. As a matter of fact he is defending Disney's right to do so.

      The point is that if *I* make a MickyMouse story I will be sued to bankruptcy. You see, the copyright on Micky Mouse fell into the public domain decades ago - No, way, it didn't - they rewrote the copyright laws. But then Micky Mouse fell into the public domain again, no wait a minute, they extended the copyright another 20 years. But it's ok, I'll be able to publish my Micky Mouse story RealSoonNow, the copyright has almost expired again.

      The point is that they are free to use everything in the public domain. Everything they produce is protected for life+70 years, plus an extra 20 year extension every few years.

      They benefit from the public domain, but never contribute to it. That is a violation of the original principles of copyright. The constitution requires limited duration for copyright protection. Unfortunately 10,000 years is "limited".

      -

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      - - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
    9. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Odyssey, Legend of Arthur, Beowulf

      You're right! Let's pay whoever made those movies!

    10. Re:Creativity vs. Theft by scharkalvin · · Score: 1

      ALL the movie studios have been making film versions of novels and short stories. Either they bought the rights to the story (as Disney did with Mary Popins and others), or they took a work that was now in the public domain. Nothing wrong here.

      Question: Did Rodenberry have to pay for the rights to the story line of "The Enemy Below" for the STOS episode "Balance of Terror"?. How about the producers of the Movie "Outland", did they have to buy the rights to the story line of "High Noon"?

  19. Did that CD need a copy-protection? by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think so. A simple label 'Warning: this is a country music' would suffice.

    1. Re:Did that CD need a copy-protection? by whee · · Score: 1
      I'm afraid a warning like that is about as useless as telling people to not put Q-tips into their ear canal.

      Then again, improper use of Q-tips could prevent unwanted hearing of country music...

  20. If the MPAA wants PCs with copy protection... by bani · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    ... they can fucking build their own!

    Expecting the computer industry to do it for them for free, tailor made to their exacting specifications, and forcing it through legislation is utterly ridiculous.

    hollings, valenti, and disney are just pulling off one gigantic circle jerk in front of the mass media, and are expecting consumers to open their mouths and take it all over their faces. Then they go and whine when consumers don't swallow.

    1. Re:If the MPAA wants PCs with copy protection... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Hollyweird built a computer it would work like this:
      40 column display, all caps, makes annoying beeping noise every time a character is printed on screen at 5cps. The security is non-existance. Everybody can guess the password within 3 tries. People speak to the computer while they type.
      You can get T1 speed even though you use an acoustic coupler with a 300 baud modem.

    2. Re:If the MPAA wants PCs with copy protection... by J.+Random+Software · · Score: 1

      If you display a file on the screen and someone deletes the file, it also disappears from the screen.

      And when I am an Evil Overlord, any data file of crucial importance will be padded to 1.45MB in size.

    3. Re:If the MPAA wants PCs with copy protection... by Myxorg · · Score: 1
      hollings, valenti, and disney are just pulling off one gigantic circle jerk in front of the mass media, and are expecting consumers to open their mouths and take it all over their faces. Then they go and whine when consumers don't swallow.


      LOL, Nice analogy, been watching too much porn lately?
  21. Fox News? by wifflefan · · Score: 1, Redundant

    "Great. More sensational journalism. Maybe someone should submit Jack Robertson's resume to Fox News."

    ...or CNN, CBS, ABC, or--best of all--disinfo.com....

    Why do I get the sneaky suspicion this reply will be marked as a troll, while if I were to submit some news with it, it wouldn't? Hmm....

    w|f

    1. Re:Fox News? by HydroCarbon10 · · Score: 2

      The real question is: why does crap like that get posted in the first place. Slashdot editors see no problem using their infinite mod points, why not cut some trolling while they're at it.

      Not that I'm complaining about the mod points, I couldn't possibly care less.

      ...and no, I don't watch Fox News, or ABC, or NBC, or CBS for that matter. I can read faster than the news anchor can speak. Compressing the whole day into 10 stories and compressing that into an hour is stupid. My television hasn't moved off channel 3 (the Nintendo channel :) ) in months.

      --
      The best way to accelerate a windows box is at 9.8 meters per second square.
  22. man...what ever happened to Promoting Progress? by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Throughout history, technology has been key to opening up new markets. It only represents a problem if it is allowed to undermine existing markets by facilitating [unauthorized copying].

    Wow! New technology is okay, as long as it doesn't undermine existing markets?? That's a great quote.

    Welcome to New Capitalism: from each corporation according to their ability, to each corporation according to their need.

    1. Re:man...what ever happened to Promoting Progress? by Pii · · Score: 2

      Mod this up...

      --
      For those that would die defending it, Freedom
      has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
    2. Re:man...what ever happened to Promoting Progress? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn straight! That's why audio cassette and video tape were never allowed to be sold in this country, because they facilitated "pirating"!!!

    3. Re:man...what ever happened to Promoting Progress? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, yeah, basically that's what our centuries of political history, political philosophy, and political economics have sustained. status quo.

  23. Dr. Fun (daily comic) has been on the 'net 9yrs by Hobart · · Score: 5, Informative

    Doctor Fun has been published on the Internet since 19930924. For that matter Where The Buffalo Roam has been on the 'net via USENET since 1991, but Dr. Fun was Internet-only. ;)

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    1. Re:Dr. Fun (daily comic) has been on the 'net 9yrs by J.+Random+Software · · Score: 1

      ISTR reading NetBoy around 1992, though it's been nearly moribund for years.

  24. Driving Growth? by ansible · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know how accurate the article is, but it states that the reason we need mandatory copy-prevention is to encourage the major content distributors to put their wares in digital form. This, therefore, will drive the adoption of high speed Internet access and HDTV.

    This is a completely circular argument, that doesn't make any sense to me. The media companies want to take away my ability to own a PC that does what I want, in return for services I also don't want.

    So basically, the media companies basically want to own everything, and we should just turn over control of our networks and computers to them so that they can more easily make money from us.

    If you want to go after the illegal distribution of your wares, fine, go ahead, I won't stop you. But just because you want to make money doesn't mean that you now have the right to take away our freedoms.

    1. Re:Driving Growth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello McFly !!! All the popular contents are already in digital form on the net faster than any of the content provider can sneeze. Duh!

  25. Walking erect by quark2universe · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been walking erect since I first saw that Farrah Fawcett poster in the '70s. Perhaps I've been around longer than the online book publisher.

    --

    Believe in things of which no person has ever learned
  26. A proposal on the SSSCA: by Anonynnous+Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    We give the industry their SSSCA, lock up all the hardware, and outlaw all operating systems except DRM-OS.

    Since this will now result in the total demise of copyright infringement, the movie, recording, and video game industries then immediately pay taxes on the hojillions of dollars they claim to be losing per year, at the prevailing highest corporate tax rate, with no writeoffs on this amount. These additional taxes should be a small price for industry to pay for the increased profits that would result from all that sudden demand now that their material isn't available for copying in digital form, now that general purpose computers would be outlawed.

    Oh--you mean they aren't going to sell all that, because the people they claimed as having been costing them money wouldn't have bought the product anyway? That's OK--we can just sell the assets of the companies benefiting from the SSSCA to take care of the taxes, then.

    1. Re:A proposal on the SSSCA: by SEE · · Score: 2

      Now that I like. But, as an option, let them pay a lot of the taxes in-kind --

      -- by releasing their film and music libraries to the public domain and the trusteeship of the Library of Congress.

    2. Re:A proposal on the SSSCA: by Anonynnous+Coward · · Score: 1
      -- by releasing their film and music libraries to the public domain and the trusteeship of the Library of Congress.

      or maybe a shortening on digital material copyrights to something at least sane, like ten years, retroactively.

  27. Walk Erect? How Leg-centric... by Wraithlyn · · Score: 3, Funny

    "who's been publishing online longer than some slashdot readers have walked erect"

    I would submit that some /. readers don't walk erect at ALL, thereby invalidating any sense of seniority this statement might otherwise have implied. Consider a wheelchair bound reader. Or possibly a child who hasn't learned to walk yet, but sits on a parent's lap and stares at the screen, or similarily some type of animal.

    These last two don't count as reading, you say? I beg to differ. And for incontestable proof, I turn to Jamie Lee Curtis, keeper of all thoughts wise:

    Otto: "Aha! Apes don't read Nietzsche!"
    Wanda: "Yes they DO, Otto, they just don't understand it!"
    - A Fish Called Wanda

    (Yes, it's been one of those days)

    Moderation Totals: Silly=2, Directionless=1, Waste of Electrons=3, Total=6

    --
    "Mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent present in every electron." -Freeman Dyson
  28. Something I'm Confused About by iPaul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's say the entire technology industry agrees that intel and motorola have a DRM package and it's what they're going to roll out. For the sake of argument, let's say Motorola and Intel will make the chipsets and open driver information so the DRM can be easily integrated into any OS.

    • Who gets to say the protection is good enough?
      • Would the require a connection to the internet while you're using the media?
      • How much device to computer or computer to device copying would be allowed?
      • Would the studio have the ability to step in and say it's not strong enough?
    • What if it requires HDTV, CD's and DVD's to be encoded differently? Thereby making 'protected' CD's/DVD's useless in existing players?
      • Would all the studios, HDTV broadcasters, and other content producers switch? Would they replace serveral million dollars worth of broadcasting, encoding and production equipment?
      • What if it made the process of creating the protected media more expensive? Would media companies still want it?
    • Would Sony really buy in and make DVD players and television sets that supported the intel/motorola chipset? Would they really adopt it into their product line?
    • What if Intel charges a stiff license for the encoding technology but free decoding technology? Would the studios fork up the dough?
    • What if, after spending millions of dollars on the whole thing some pesky mathemetician figures out how to break the encryption in a matter of a few hours?
      • Would Sony be allowed to sue intel and motorola?
      • Would we have to start again, making the 'protected' DVD's I bought useless?
    • Who's to blame when a pesky consumer advocate raises a law suit and shows the device/technology violates their fair use rights?
    • I just don't see the upside for the computer manufacturers to figure this one out. If the do it they'll be blamed for creating poor protection, or blamed for raising the cost of movies, or blamed for making your new home theater useless.

      It's the studio's content -they should figure out how to lock it up. After all, I don't make my neighbors wear GPS tracking devices just because I refuse to lock my door.

    --
    Leave the gun, take the cannoli -- Clemenza, The Godfather
    1. Re:Something I'm Confused About by J.+Random+Software · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sadly, fair use is a defense against infringement but not a right. If vendors make fair use impossible to exercise, all we can do is persuade everyone to take their business to vendors that don't (or somehow accumulate more money than the content cartels and buy ourselves a law).

      Nobody's obliged to continue pressing DVDs, but it seems to me if a company sells DVD players and then starts pressing DVDs their existing players can't handle, they've violated the warranty of merchantability.

  29. headlines by RestiffBard · · Score: 2

    I'm starting to think some folks are creating their headlines with the express purpose of being slashdotted.

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    - /* dead coders leave no comments */
  30. Senate Commerce Committee Hearings Transcripts by morgue-ann · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The transcripts (what was actually said including questions & answers) will probably be available in a couple of weeks at the Government Printing Office {check out Orrin Hatch's Judiciary Committee Hearing on Copyrights while you're there}

    The submitted statements are available on the Committee's own page.

    The hearing was broadcast on CapitolHearings, but they don't seem to offer archives. I ripped the stream & will post an Ogg Vorbis version soon, but the everyone must have woken up today & decided to surf porn 'cause the 16kbps stream over a well-tuned DSL connection was interrupted several times, some of which failed auto-retries (do I hate RealPlayer now?).

    If anyone else has a stream rip, please post it. My favorite part is Hollings saying "son of a bitch" a couple minutes before the hearing starts. Yes, that microphone is on sir.

    Did anyone else listen? I thought Eisner went off the deep end during the question & answer period. He wants to protect camcorder-at-the-movie -> DivX;-) movies from distribution (not just stuff with DRM). The Intel V.P. (who was very calm despite the verbal LSD flying around) said that wasn't possible, but I don't think he was considering the full totalitarian push. Consider a law requiring ISPs to NAT and dynamic-IP all users so no one can run a server unless registered (like guns) & authorized. All P2P traffic is illegal. The entire US is firewalled off from "rouge" nations. Sure, it sounds unlikely, but that's why Eisner sounded so wacked out. He really sounded like he either wanted the net to become cable TV or just be shut down entirely (Disney isn't making any money from abc.com or disney.com or go.com- what do they need the damned pirate club for anyway?)

    You might think Eisner was talking about watermarking, but he wanted 90% of "pirate" traffic catchable. He's MORE concerned about a teenage projectionist inviting over his buddy who's dad has a 3-chip DV camcorder than DRM cracks. A 400x300 divx compress from a camcorder aimed at a screen is not going to preserve watermarks unless they really fuck up the quality. I think he's heading towards the RIAA "we want the right to snoop & crack those pirate sonofabitches" idea.

    -M

    1. Re:Senate Commerce Committee Hearings Transcripts by iPaul · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thanks for the link, as I have no life, I read the submitted testimony (both panels). I think the best part involved Jack Valenti and Disney. The first is the "horrified they couldn't control the number of people watching" quote referring to Disney and video tape. The second thing was ressurecting Valenti's tape-worm comment, again, implying VCRs were going to ruin Hollywood.

      Luddites are alive and well.

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      Leave the gun, take the cannoli -- Clemenza, The Godfather
    2. Re:Senate Commerce Committee Hearings Transcripts by morgue-ann · · Score: 1

      Eisner's comments are posted A good portion of them is playback of a movie they got off a p2p network. Those Senators sure love to be entertained (you can almost hear Fritz's lips puckering when he fawns over Eisner).

      I'll put up some of the question & answer stuff later.

      Anyone want to host three hours worth of the hearing? It's 34MB. I could trim it to 30MB to fit in a Yahoo! Briefcase, but you can only upload 5MB at a time. It just isn't worth it (esp. since I didn't get the whole thing & Real crapped out on me a few times) to edit it into separate files.

      By the way, Ogg Vorbis (ogenc v0.9, libvorbis RC3) did a nice job on speech at -q 0 (avg. bitrate 28.4 kb/s). I tried & failed with Streambox VCR, so had to grab the uncompressed audio out the back of Real & re-squish it. Too bad 'cause the original was only 16 kb/s.

      Whoever's doing audio for Congress does a good job. The mics are close and well muted (none gets left on & no one gets cut off)- not much coughing or background noise.

  31. Just say no by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would rather not have movies at all than to be forced to use copy prevention on my PC. If the lack of copy prevention is what is keeping the MPAA from joining the internet age, well, they can just stay where they are as far as I'm concerned.

    I will buy neither digital products that cannot be backed up, converted into other formats, or otherwise copied. I still use VHS for this reason. I'll buy a DVD player when I can finally make backups with DVD's. Nor will I buy disabled computers. Somehow I doubt the Pacific Rim manufacturers I buy computer parts from are going to bend over backwards for this.

    The technologies that I can backup, copy and preserve? Sure, I download MP3's, but usually just to check out a band or to find something thats not available on CD. If its something I like I buy the CD, because MP3 takes away too much for me to fully enjoy the sound. I spend at least $100 a month on music, and another $50 or so buying movies. But I will spend $0 on products I can't back up or copy, or computers that are bastardized with copy protection.

    --

    No, Thursday's out. How about never - is never good for you?

    1. Re:Just say no by tkrotchko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I would rather not have movies at all than to be forced to use copy prevention on my PC. If the lack of copy prevention is what is keeping the MPAA from joining the internet age, well, they can just stay where they are as far as I'm concerned."

      I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment.

      I have yet to see content compelling enough to give up a single right, much less giving Hollywood the ability to gut the humble PC.

      I can watch a DVD now. I can watch TV now.

      Will the programming get better if I give up control of my PC? Will Hollywood look out for my best interest once I give up control?

      Write your congressmen and senators with pen and paper. Be civil, but show some courteous passion that tells them that you won't vote for them if they vote for any more DMCA nonsense. Let them know, again very politely, that you'll let other people know about this nonsense. Don't just say "I'm very concerned", say "I believe this is not in my best interest and I would no longer support you in any future elections if you vote for such proposals". Hollywood isn't pulling any punches, and neither should you.

      I've been told by someone who knows that if a represenative or senator gets 15 letters on a topic, they get extremely concerned.

      Between us, do you think we could produce perhaps 1,000 letters?

      --
      You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
    2. Re:Just say no by omega9 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree somwhat, with this to offer...

      Here's a quick one. In 1991 Brent Spiner, of Cmdr. Data fame on ST:TNG, released an album titled Ol' Yellow Eyes is Back. It was a very short run and only a limited number of copies were produced. It *was* put in reprint in 1994, but that was also a limited run. Since hearing of this album in ~1996 I have been on a warpath looking for a copy by any means needed.

      Essentially, I am a consumer in need of a product. Is it around for me to purchase? No. Is this still copyrighted material? Yes. Will I download it the first damn chance I get. You freakin' bet. If the album is not in production any more then neither the label nor artist will be making money on any more sales, as they will be used. I would gladly purchase a used copy (in good condition, of course), but they are nowhere to be found.

      This is one example. The same goes for an album by Symbiosis that I have been tracking down, and there are many more that aren't in production any more but would be illegal to download. How in the hell am I supposed to get this music? To me this is the biggest train that the RIAA/MPAA is missing.

      (PS - If anyone happens to have a copy of Ol' Yellow Eyes this is an open invitation to contact me. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more)

      --
      I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.
    3. Re:Just say no by J.+Random+Software · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I despise any "publisher" who won't meet demand and won't let anyone else meet demand. Since the value of information grows with the number of copies and the cost effectively doesn't, "out of print" represents our civilization wilfully impoverishing itself.

      FWIW, there are two copies of Yellow Eyes on eBay right now, and I suppose I'd sell mine if those don't work out.

    4. Re:Just say no by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      Your point echoes the one I make with people and family on this issue! I try to explain to people how these content cartels are slowly taking away the ability or incentive of individuals to create.

      There's something else though, about out-of-print media and software. If I buy a car, I don't expect Honda to replace it when it gets damaged or worn. When I buy a CD or DVD, I should have that same expectation. But I didn't buy it, it's licensed. So, if it isn't mine, and I can't do with it as I please, then what do I get in return?

      I agree fully that there should be some mechanism for replacing old or lost media. They ignored P2P, they lost, and now they want to go all "sour grapes" and ban P2P for any reason.

      They're like a bunch of spoiled brats who lost the stickball game and are whining as they leave with the equipment...

      GTRacer
      - Suddenly, all those dystopian stories don't seem so far-fetched

      --
      Defending IP by destroying access to it? That makes sense, RIAA/MPAA. Go to the corner until you can play nice!
    5. Re:Just say no by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2

      This OYE page suggests that it is still possible to purchase the Infinite Visions re-release.

  32. "...maybe I could be a rock star..." by Helmholtz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, that is a quote directly from Senator Fritz Hollings. It is portrayed in Frank Zappa's song Porn Wars which can be found on the album Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers of Prevention. For those old enough to remember, this is a harkening back to the PMRC (an attempt to force the listing of song lyrics on album jackets). The hearing is a matter of public record, and is out on the web somewhere ... unfortunately I don't have a link to provide, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

    The most interesting thing about the hearing IMO is when Mr. Zappa simply keeps asking "Okay, so who's going to pay for it?". I just think it's funny to see how 20 years later these guys are still trying to take away as many freedoms as possible.

    For what it's worth, the only artists from the music industry that showed up to testify at the PMRC hearings were Frank Zappa and John Denver. Of course both of them are dead now.

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    RFC2119
    1. Re:"...maybe I could be a rock star..." by kubrick · · Score: 2

      For what it's worth, the only artists from the music industry that showed up to testify at the PMRC hearings were Frank Zappa and John Denver. Of course both of them are dead now.

      Coincedence? I think not!

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    2. Re:"...maybe I could be a rock star..." by adminispheroid · · Score: 1
      You can find the quote here, from the PMRC hearings:
      I have a hard time understanding it. Paul, since I traveled the country for 3 years, they said they could not understand me. Maybe I could make a good rock star. I do not know.
      I have no earthly idea what he's talking about. The man is a loon.
    3. Re:"...maybe I could be a rock star..." by sparcv9 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Three cheers for the unabashed candor of Mr. Zappa during the PMRC and Senate Commerce Committee hearings:

      Senator Danforth: There is nothing on the face of the album which would notify you if the record has pornographic material or material glorifying violence?

      Tipper Gore: No, there is nothing that would suggest that to me.

      Frank Zappa: I would say that a buzz saw blade between the guy's legs on the album cover is good indication that it's not for little Johnny.

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    4. Re:"...maybe I could be a rock star..." by doop · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The transcript of the hearing makes interesting reading, particular Sen. Hollings' view on the music he is now so keen to protect:
      But in all candor, I would tell you it is outrageous filth, and we have got to do something about it. I take the tempered approach, of our distinguished chairman, and commend it. Yet, I would make the statement that if I could find some way constitutionally to do away with it, I would.
      A true champion of listeners' freedom.
    5. Re:"...maybe I could be a rock star..." by Anonynnous+Coward · · Score: 1
      For what it's worth, the only artists from the music industry that showed up to testify at the PMRC hearings were Frank Zappa and John Denver. Of course both of them are dead now.

      Coincidence? Hmmmm.

      ~~~

  33. Your Sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be Bill Gates the Fourth. Bill Gates Jr. is the father of the Microsoft founder.

    1. Re:Your Sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm no math major, but wouldn't that be the third?

    2. Re:Your Sig by kesuki · · Score: 1

      I was anticipiating an accident with a time machine and a condom. Like Zaphod in HHGTTG. I've changed my sig for the time being, but reserve the right to alter it in case of future accidents with time machines and condoms.

  34. Like they really want the manufacturers to help... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They wont stop until every device produced capable of video/audio output has to have watermark checking and is mandated to connect to central servers every so often for continued use at which time it will report any possible infringement. The less cooperative the manufacturers are the happier they are, it makes their scam all the easier.

  35. ActiveDirectory - OpenLDAP by cymen · · Score: 2

    What exactly are they going to store on the OpenLDAP server? Shares? Permissions? Application settings? Where can I learn more about the integration of OpenLDAP and Windows 2000/XP?

    I'm interested because we do some work with clients that have 2000/XP on the desktop. We use Samba right now but we want to move from the simple sharing to domains. I know Samba can be a PDC and we are working on that but I'm wondering where OpenLDAP fits into all of it.

    1. Re:ActiveDirectory - OpenLDAP by cymen · · Score: 2

      Well to answer my question it appears Samba-TNG is what I should be looking at... Specifically the Samba TNG and Unix Accounts with LDAP page and the other documentation here.

      Looks interesting...

  36. Ten years writing book reviews? by blair1q · · Score: 2

    And people complain about grade inflation.

    --Blair

  37. OH MY GOD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like we've slashdotted Germany! Good Work!

    1. Re:OH MY GOD! by ethereal · · Score: 1

      You Bastards!

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      Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

  38. A screenplay written by Jack Valenti by sharkey · · Score: 2

    "It's just me in front of a brick wall for 90 minutes. It cost 80 million dollars. Here's a clip"

    Jack:Thieves!....That's the joke.
    Consumer:You suck Valenti! *BOOM*
    Jack:You stole 350 billion songs!
    Consumer:Get off the stage! *Bang*
    Jack:You will be responsible for the starvation deaths of corporate tools like Metallica!


    Apologies to the Simpsons and McBain

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    --
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  39. Most worrying quote in that article: by Galvatron · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Les Vadasz says "This technology is not going to be put back in the bottle," he said. "They can slow down progress, but they cannot stop it."

    Unfortunately, he's wrong. Perhaps he's never heard of the Greeks and the Romans? The Greeks got as far as inventing mechanical calculators, while the Romans had central heating. These technologies were not rediscovered until the last couple hundred years.

    Never, ever make the mistake of thinking that our prosperity must last forever. We could fall at any time, and it's a long way down.

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    "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
    1. Re:Most worrying quote in that article: by driftingwalrus · · Score: 1

      Well, that was helped along by the utter and total collapse of civilisation:)

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      Paul Anderson
      "I drank WHAT?!" -- Socrates
    2. Re:Most worrying quote in that article: by Bilbo · · Score: 1
      Well, that was helped along by the utter and total collapse of civilisation:)

      Uh... well, Western Civilization that is. There were plenty of other Civilizations humming along just fine during that same period, the Chinese being the first to come to mind.

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      Your Servant, B. Baggins
  40. Hollings to Intel: wink, wink, nudge, nudge by catfood · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article quoted Hollings as saying to Intel, "We don't want to legislate. We want to give you time... to develop technology."

    I think the real-world translation of this might indicate that the Honorable Senator from Disney is looking for a settlement of sorts.

    Maybe Intel ends up producing DRM-enabled CPUs and mainboards for entertainment-oriented PCs, and Congress refrains from banning traditional general-purpose computers.

    Then the "content" industry produces stuff that only works on the DRM-enabled systems, and those of us who don't care about watching the latest Disney flicks on our rack-mount servers will be left alone.

    In other words, the scenario that Seth Finkelstein described in a comment to the previous SSSCA article.

    But I don't think that's such a horrible outcome. You'll have your regular computers like you have now, and then you'll have a glorified VCR to use with all your "content." A work computer and a "fun" computer.

    *shrug*

    1. Re:Hollings to Intel: wink, wink, nudge, nudge by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Except that the only kind of "fun" you are allowed to have on your "fun" computer is that which is sanctioned by the United States of Hollywood. Any homebrew developments with "fun" will be impossible. For an idea of the enormous and thriving homebrew world of entertainment on a PC, doing things that hollywood doesn't like (like scaling DVD video beyond 480p) see places like http://www.avsforum.com/ and the various htpc related discussions.

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      When information is power, privacy is freedom.
  41. Do you live in South Carolina? by alizard · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why don't you tell good old Senator Fritz what you think of his sellout to the major multimedia corporate interests at the expense of everybody else.

    Being a trained attack dog for Disney and AOL doesn't serve anyone living in your state. It just gets him campaign money.

    If you find that it's literally impossible to back up your hard drive or your company's data storage a year from now because he got those "anti-piracy" (note: in Hollings-speak, fair use = piracy) laws passed, do you think Hollings will help you? Maybe he can get a law passed making it illegal for hard drives to fail.

    His public contact page is http://hollings.senate.gov/webform.html.

    Be as nasty as you like, there's no possibility of working with him. He has been bought and being an honest politician, will probably stay that way.

    From http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?C ID=N00002423&cycle=2002
    The top industries supporting Ernest F. Hollings are:
    1 Lawyers/Law Firms $1,151,134
    2 TV/Movies/Music $260,034

    Note: you may safely assume that at least some of the law firm contributions are from organizations on media industry payrolls.

    Since I don't live in South Carolina, the only way he's going to pay any attention to what I say as a non-constituent is if I send it via snailmail with a check for over $1,000 enclosed. Since hell will freeze over before I send him money, I didn't see any reason to bother writing him.

    Here's a copy of the e-mail I didn't bother sending. Perhaps some of you who live in SC can get some inspiration from it. Note: URL below is

    a fair usage quote from Yahoo News:

    Senator rips tech fears on piracy curb
    Threatens government standards to protect copyrights

    By Lisa Smith, Medill News Service

    WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) -- A powerful senator criticized Silicon Valley's high-tech firms Thursday for obstructing efforts to fight movie and music piracy.

    If the electronics and content industries can't agree on a solution to digital piracy, the government will step in, promised Sen. Ernest "Fritz" Hollings, D-S.C., chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee.

    Hollings told Intel (INTC: news, chart, profile) executive vice president Leslie Vadasz that it was "nonsense" to say that protecting intellectual property rights would damage the high-tech industry, stifle innovation, reduce product usefulness and slow new technology investment, as Vadasz had testified.

    Dear Senator Hollings:
    The above comment makes you either a liar or a fool.

    There was a time I used to admire you. After you decided you now represent AOL/TimeWarner, the MPAA, and Disney instead of the poor suckers who voted for you, I no longer can respect you as a public leader or even a human being.

    You're just another political whore. You are a disgrace to the US Senate and a living indictment of American democracy.

    Of course, this is not news to any of your staff member who reads this, but if that person had any personal integrity or decency, he or she wouldn't be working for you anyway.

    Hopefully, when those companies you attack finish with you, you'll be just someone who's trying to become a lobbyist and finding that nobody in politics can afford to be associated with you, instead of the "powerful senator" you are no longer fit to be.

    A.Lizard

    1. Re:Do you live in South Carolina? by Dyolf+Knip · · Score: 2

      My letter to him asked why on earth he thought that he knew better than Intel what the effects of the SSSCA would have on computers. They do make electronics for a living, after all.

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    2. Re:Do you live in South Carolina? by alizard · · Score: 1

      If you get a reply, try posting it on slashdot. Odds are, the reply will have very little relationship to anything you wrote to the point where it'll provide us with something to laugh at.

    3. Re:Do you live in South Carolina? by Mnemia · · Score: 2

      I DO live in South Carolina, though I go to school in NC...I wrote old Fritz an email on Wednesday regarding all this mess, and I tried to be nonargumentative and make my points reasonably on this stuff. I felt a small amount of duty in writing that letter, since maybe they'll be slightly more likely to listen to me since I'm a resident. I don't want the rest of the country to get screwed by my backwards state's politics and I was afraid few others in SC would be informed enough to do anything about it.

      As of now I haven't heard anything back, not even a form letter...I'll post if I do have any more contact with them.

    4. Re:Do you live in South Carolina? by ethereal · · Score: 1

      Ouch! Way to slam on the staffer, there - at least you know that you got someone's goat before you got circular-filed :)

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    5. Re:Do you live in South Carolina? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2

      If you want to have an impact, make sure he knows you are a lifelong Democrat and send a copy of your $1000.00 check that you've sent to the Green party. Send a copy to the DNC, as well. His aides will start noticing REAL quick.

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      That is all.
    6. Re:Do you live in South Carolina? by alizard · · Score: 1
      That was the idea. Note that a number of customer people quit Exxon over that tanker spilling all that oil because they couldn't deal with the rage they were getting from customers over the phone. If Hollings' staffers started quitting, he'd get the message.

      At this point, the only hopes S.Carolinans have of changing the mind of their Senator are:
      1) A big enough individual contribution accompanied with a polite snailmail saying someting of the order of "if you don't withdraw this bill, your opponent will get one twice this size next election season". Big enough means comparable to everything Hollings got from all media accounts combined. To get that number requires finding someone with the political expertise to find out which law firms contributed on behalf of Disney, AOL, et. al. in order that the voters who checked wouldn't discover where Hollings campaign funds really come from. Note that a person who can do this should not be concerned about what state he lives in, Hollings won't care.
      2. Enough e-mails, etc. with the message we are REALLY pissed off over Hollywood's attempts to destroy our digital infrastructure for the sake of the media industry's convenience.

      Few slashdotters are in the position of being able to write a check for several hundred thousand dollars. (Note: if any are, remember there are campaign contribution laws that have to be complied with)

      However, a large number of "we're really, really pissed off" communications might persuade him to tell his owners, "Sorry, but the voters in my state really think this is a bad idea, so bad that it endangers my chance of re-election. Can't deliver this time, maybe I can sneak something through." While these letters will be counted, not read in any detail, there's a small chance that this could work.

    7. Re:Do you live in South Carolina? by alizard · · Score: 1

      One won't change his mind, but it will be noticed. A stack of this kind of e-mail and Hollings will start rethinking his position. BTW, Libertarian Party fits the high-tech agenda as perceived by politicians a bit better.

  42. Professional Pirate by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2

    During the hearing, Eisner played a clip from Sony Pictures' "Black Hawk Down" -- now playing in theaters -- that was ripped from the Internet.

    Heh. I can't help wondering about the employee at Disney who was instructed to go out on Gnutella and warez some movies for Michael Eisner...

  43. Anti-copy hardware by adamjaskie · · Score: 0

    So, where is this anti copy stuff going to go? Ill just not compile the crap into my linux kernel, so its not in the OS, that's too simple to get around. BIOS? How long till we see people flashing their computers with bootleg BIOS w/o copy protection? Mobo mods? Soldering jumpers across the "copy protection unit?" Just how far will i have to go to get a computer that doesnt keep me from watching movies in an "approved" (microsoft) operating system?

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  44. anya wasn't disney by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Ahh yes, but [Disney] don't derive, look at their view of such things as: 'anastasia'

    Di$ney never animated Anastasia. That was Fox.

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  45. Pooh isn't expired yet by yerricde · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You forgot Hunchback of Notre Dame, Cinderella, Snow White, Winnie the Pooh, etc.

    Winnie-the-Pooh isn't expired. Di$ney just bought the rights outright from the company that inherited them from the Milne family. Under the Bono Act, "The House at Pooh Corner" (1928) by A. A. Milne (d. 1956), which introduced many of the popular Pooh characters, doesn't expire in the US until 2024 (1928+96) or in the EU until 2027 (1956+71).

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  46. Open Hardware -vs- Closed content community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the effect of the SSSCA upon open hardware developers, such as opencores.org? If I wish to learn how to design and develop a MPEG codec in an FPGA will I get sent to jail? [current wording appears to suggest so]. How can the USA "land of the free" decide that amature hobbiest nolonger have the right to experiment with hardware? Why don't corporations consider what their customers have to say (an online survey?)? Wouldn't it make sense for the government to rule in favor of the PEOPLE?

    [some of the above may be redundant from previous comments]

  47. Re:Alumina Ruby Red Slippers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not ruby red slippers! Take me back home to Kansas! Uncle Ed! Is that you?

  48. Rupert Murdoch, please come to the courtesy phone by Catbeller · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fox TV is indeed tabloid GOP-TV.

    CNN, and all the others you list, are moderate to conservative entities, if they can be characterized at all. Besides, "liberalism" is defined as open-mindedness, fairness, and the ability to see all sides of a story. Any TV network should be proud to be called such.

    But they are not "liberal". CNN is changing its lineup to suck up to the FOX crowd. ABC, and most certainly NBC are owned by extremely conservative corporations, Disney and GE respectively. The bosses of those Republican companies are influencing hiring and firing of upper and middle level management, causing a tilt towards the right that is becoming discernible even to a casual viewer.

    FOX is not in the fairness business. It follows the meme, a wrong one, that all who do not agree with their views are Liberal, and part of a Liberal powerbase that they are in biz to negate.

    FOX is Murdoch's wet dream. He wants a no-apologies propoganda machine for deregulation, insulting Clinton, religion, slandering Clinton, corporate welfare kings, removing Clinton, military buildups, destroying Clinton, and destroying any damned body that gets in his way to enormous wealth and power for himself and all of his ideological stripe.

    No, I'm not going to cite sources. I 'm not going to exhaust myself proving water is wet for the millionth time. And anyway, it is the hallmark of conservatism that they can NEVER be wrong, and that the other side IS. And immoral and evil and godless and...

    Liberalism's hallmark, and the hallmark of good journalism as well, is the ability to see all sides of an argument, and to doubt and question deeply held beliefs. FOX fails this test, and is not a journalistic network. It is an attack vehicle for a narrow slice of American life -- angry white suburban USAian men who think that blacks have more rights than they, that all their money is being shipped overseas, that women are too damned uppity, and that their religion is the right and only one. And like lots of guns in case the Guvmint needs overthrowing, or blacks leave the cities and attack their suburban strongholds... believe me, I grew up reading the pamphets spread by milita, Birchers and similar. I'm not exaggerating.

    Anyhow, to sum up: Murdoch is a right Uberwinger who created the FOX NEWS network to destroy the influence of anyone who does not support his ideology. FOX exists to demonize its opponents and slavishly promote its politicians.

    "Liberals" (anyone not a Murdochian) have no such parallel network of ruthless lying attack dogs. By "Liberals" I mean the 75% of the USA that are not conservatives.

    "Troll" indeed.

  49. To actually DO something about the SSSCA by alizard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It is my understanding based on a Politech post by Mike Godwin that Vadasz of Intel actually made a pretty good presentation and that the problem is that "too many of the players and decisionmakers in this area lack the basic technical understanding necessary to make intelligent copyright-policy and IT-policy decisions"

    This ignorance has become dangerous to all of us. Like to back up your system using mass storage with Hollywood-style copy protection built in?

    Hollywood has already bought the politicians who are going to decide on this. They don't get it. There's no political profit in getting this.

    I've said for some time if the high-tech community from CEOs to end users all decided to pull together on an issue, that we can win regardless of opposition.

    Collectively, Compaq, Dell, IBM, Intuit, Microsoft, Sybase, and Unisys are a probably lot bigger and employ more people than the motion picture industry. I mention these companies because their leaders signed an open letter to MPAA asking that the movie industry start having real discussions with them with respect to a solution everyone can live with.

    Jack Valenti figures correctly that he doesn't have to compromise, and by the time Hollywood finds out that their own computers have been compromised by the solution the top corporate suits bought from Congress, he'll be in a very well paid retirement.

    Perhaps it's time for high-tech industry to stop kissing their asses and start kicking them and see about enlisting our help in kicking them as well.

    If these high-tech companies start buying media time and doing press campaigns about just what the Hollywood solution means (start with pictures of dark factory floors, blue screens on computers, etc.) in conjunction to putting out a call to write letters to Congress to their employees and their developer communities and to communities like this one.

    I'd certainly write my own Senators over this issue even if the request was signed by Bill Gates.

    I've been telling people to avoid XP and I've been running AMD in my boxes for years and years. However, there are issues where the most die-hard Linux fanatic with any sense will realize that we've got common interests.

    If the Senators don't get the point, a number of them are up for re-election this fall. High-tech money and voters can make the difference between who wins and who loses.

    We know who our enemies are. We can't do anything permanent on them by ourselves. A high-tech coalition can probably remake Congress in our own image. We don't have to like Microsoft, just be glad they're on our side for a change and be willing to work with them.

    There are other major corporations who would be greatly inconvenienced by having MPAA use Congress to tell us what our computers are going to look like and what can and can't be done on the Internet.

    It's coalition time. It's single-issue politics time. . . us vs. the laws Hollywood has used Congress to ram down our collective throats. I know that every major corporation I mentioned specifically has people reading slashdot. Carry the word back to your bosses that it's time to see what kind of coalition we can put together.

    High tech developers and users plus high-tech corporate money is probably an unstoppable political force. There are few issues that we can all agree on, but on those issues, we need to work together.

    1. Re:To actually DO something about the SSSCA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Freedom for users represents a threat for Microsoft--being the vendor of last (and first) resort and setting their own terms is their whole business model. You don't think they'd be thrilled to make a system that's crippled by brain-damaged copy prevention measures in exchange for seeing the use of hackable Free Software made illegal?

    2. Re:To actually DO something about the SSSCA by scharkalvin · · Score: 1

      I've told my wife that if it's up to me it will be a cold day in hell before we take the kids back to Disney World again.

      BTW if this goes through wait till the GOVERNMENT finds out that IT'S computers have been compromised. Maybe government contracts will specify that their computers DON'T get the special hardware!

  50. Paraphrasing from another time by FreeUser · · Score: 5, Funny

    In an alternate history near you:

    Throughout history, technology has been key to opening up new markets. It only represents a problem if it is allowed to undermine existing markets

    said Buggy whip manufacturers, demanding that a one hundred year old law banning horseless carriages within the United States be renewed for another century. In other news, hundreds of eye witnesses reported a mysterious flying object high above the skies of Los Angeles. Subversive elements claim it is was an Aeroplane, the rumored heavier-than-air flying device said to have been in use in much of the rest of the world for the last seventy years or so ... almost as long as Europeans are alleged by radicals to have had widespread use of the horseless carriage.

    "Nonesense," said Senator Ernest "Fritz" Hollings, D-S.C. (chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee), "the United States remains the leader in world technology, and will continue to do so, without endangering the hard earned profits of buggy whip manufacturers and liveries everywhere. Anyone alleging the existence of horseless carriages or mysterious flying Aeroplanes is Unamerican and a traitor to the republic."

    Thankfully, our leadership in the early part of the twentieth century was nowhere near as pathetic as it has become today.

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  51. Intel's Stance by Ian+Peon · · Score: 1
    I've been working on the control system at Les Vadasz's new home for about the last year now...


    Guess that anti- DVD-CCA T-shirt I've been wearing finally paid off...

  52. OT: your signature by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1
    Re: your signature.


    You should probably switch from using DivX 3.11 to using XviD (the free continuation of the OpenDivX project). Recent viewing tests at
    Doom9 have shown that it has at least as good quality as DivX 3.11 and DivX 4, but you get the extra benefit of it being open, and rapidly developed.

    Also, you probably want to switch to using something like the excellent Gordian Knot (see the download link at Doom9 for it). See the ripping/encoding guides at Doom9.

  53. my first defective CD by maxpublic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tonight I ran into my first defective CD. It was the newly-released Alanis Morissette album (you have your tastes, I have mine). My wife and I bought this along with the new release from Pink, came home and popped it into one of our computers while we made dinner.

    After a minute or two I noticed that the speakers remained mysteriously quiet, and that no music puntuated the sounds of rattling dishes in the kitchen. Ambling over to the computer I popped open Windows Explorer (my wife had booted into Windows on her computer to play a game and hadn't booted back to Linux) and noticed...

    ...nothing.

    Well, not quite nothing. There was a 'special media presentation' on the CD just begging for our attention, but other than that *no tracks* appeared on the CD. Wisely expressing my confusion with the words "what the fuck?" I popped the disc back in...and still there were no tracks.

    Just that goddamned media thingy trying to get my attention. I didn't buy the damned CD for any bloody commercial, I bought it for *music*. Fuck the damned commercial, where the hell was my MUSIC???

    With growing horror I realized I'd just been given the RIAA shaft up the ass for the first time. Here I was, with a CD I legally purchased, unable to play it in my - goddamnit - CD player.

    Quickly I scanned the case and the plastic wrap the CD came in, thinking I'd missed some disclaimer like 'won't play on a computer, you mp3-ripping pirate asshole'. But no. Even the tiny print on the back said nothing of the sort. There was no warning of any kind to indicate that the CD was intentionally defective.

    With something akin to a cry of rage, echoed by my incredibly pissed-off wife, I transferred the cd to my computer - which was running Linux - and fired up the burning software to see if it could find the tracks. It did without any problem whatsoever. Put it back into the machine running windows - the tracks were gone. Rebooted my machine to windows - no tracks. Booted my wife's computer to Linux and ran the ripping software - the tracks were there.

    Yep, no doubt about it, the CD was crippled with 'copy protection'. I'd heard about CDs that Windows couldn't play but that Linux could, but I'd never actually seen them before. This was my first.

    So here I am, ripping the Alanis Morissette cd so that I can copy the tracks back onto one of my own blank cds, in the hopes that the protection is on the cd itself and not incorporated into the tracks. If I'm right I'll soon have an Alanis Morissette CD that'll play in Windows as well as Linux - which is what I goddamned well paid for when I went to the store in the first place.

    It's one thing to hear about this shit and express outrage over another persons misfortune, and quite another to find out you've been fucked yourself. I work for my money and I bloody well expect value when I plunk down my cash; if they're going to cripple the CD then the motherfuckers had better goddamn well label the shitty product so I can avoid it in the first place.

    Until now I've downloaded music off of Napster, Bearshare, Gnutella, etc. to 'try before I buy' - just like everyone else I know. Our CD collection has quadrupled in the last two years because we've discovered artists we'd never in a million years consider seriously if we hadn't been able to hear the album first. Alanis was one of those artists and we now own everything she's put out.

    But I have to ask myself now: if the music industry is going to deliberately sell me defective products, why on God's green earth should I waste the money I work hard for on fucked-up CDs? In this case it looks as if I can rip the songs to the computer and burn them back to a blank CD; but why should I have to do this? I didn't consent to buy a defective product, nor was I informed of the defect before purchase. I was more than willing to hand over $16 bucks to the RIAA bloodsuckers to buy Alanis's new album - and they screwed me anyway.

    Assholes. Please tell me - how is this supposed to encourage a generally honest joe like myself to remain honest and buy CDs of songs I've downloaded and liked? If I know I stand a chance of being reamed, with the potential battle of trying to return the CD for a refund to the tight-fisted music store bastards that own my town, what incentive do I have to buy? All this is going to do is encourage piracy, not contain it.

    Well, at least the Pink CD works like it should.

    Max

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    1. Re:my first defective CD by clare-ents · · Score: 5, Funny

      Invoice them.

      Dear Sir,

      I regret to inform you that the mastering on the new Alanis Morissette CD catalogue number $foo is faulty. Using my own ehanced proprietry CD mastering toolkit I have been able to remaster the CD correctly such that it complies with the CD Audio standard [reference $document_at_phillips] and now plays correctly on all devices bearing the CD Audio mark which your disc did not.

      I regret to inform you that the cost of doing this has been

      blank media $1
      mastering time $50

      I enclose an invoice for the following amount and a correctly mastered CD for your use.

      I hereby grant you license to sell the remastered Alanis album for a royalty of $0.01 per copy.

      If in future you wish to avoid the royalty I can supply you with a standards compilant mastering writer for the sum of $10000.

      Please pay the invoice by cheque payable to $my_name within 28 days.

      Yours Sincerely

      $yourname

      Director, CD Fix Ltd.

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      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. (Einstein)
    2. Re:my first defective CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, is'nt *that* ironic

    3. Re:my first defective CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Don't ya' think?

      ~~~

    4. Re:my first defective CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little *too* ironic...

    5. Re:my first defective CD by ethereal · · Score: 1

      [standard flame about what is or isn't ironic]

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      Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

  54. Re:Rupert Murdoch, please come to the courtesy pho by Gis_Sat_Hack · · Score: 1

    Ah Rupert,
    What we lost by importing the cane toad,
    we gained by exporting Rupert.

    I think you err in assuming that the man has an ideology beyond that of paying no taxes, expanding without limits and eliminating all competition.

    What he is doing to America is an extension of what he has done to Britain & what previously he & his forebears did in Australia.

    He makes little apeal/concession to the poor, 'cause frankly, they don't have any money.
    He rarely targets the rich, it's hard to prise $$$'s from their grip & after all, there aren't that many ++billionaires.

    His market, & thus how he positions his media empire, is all the others.

    The horror of Murdoch is that he is a mirror to the dark underbelly of the middle classes.
    That, and the fact that he charges $1.50 a peek . . .

  55. Make our own content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all very well lambasting Hollywood - but until *we* make better content than Hollywood, Joe IQ-of-only-110 Consumer is going to support Hollywood.

    Making movies is _easy_ nowadays. It's fun, too. We need to flood the internet with non--media-mafia content, and PROVE that we can do better than hollywood, for less/free.

    Open source movie production!

  56. N'entre pas dans le metro sans ticket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know....

    Alexis Hublot

  57. Fragmentation by kievit · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If fragmentation is such a big deal, then why do you never read about defragmentation tools for gnu/linux (or unix in general)? I know that it exists for Windows (one of the few things I know about that OS) since had to do a defrag before I could install linux so that I had a dual boot machine.

    So, while I wrote this post I decided I should do my homework first. On Freshmeat I found a defrag program for linux, but it seems to be totally dead, abandoned since 1998. On sourceforge a search for defrag only gives a hit for some Windows application. A Google search finally points me to a Debian page which advertises exactly the kind of defrag program I was looking for. The buglist shows that it is still being maintained, but there does not seem to be much going on (which might be a sign of stability, but the developer could have tried to impress me with promises to support more filesystems than only ext2, minix and xiafs). Why isn't this program a standard solution that makes fragmentation a non-issue? Do people here have experience with this tool?

    1. Re:Fragmentation by suitti · · Score: 1

      When my 386 was new, I ran some file system tests on ext2. I did not write a master thesis. How much performance is lost if the 5% reserve is removed? I created a file system with the default 5% reserve. I ran a bechmark which created a large file and deleted it in a loop. I then filled the file system to 90%, and reran it. I then created the file system with 0% reserver, filled it to 90% and reran it. The results were that there was no measurable difference. The conclusion was that the 5% reserve does not help performance. Since then, I have routinely created ext2 file systems without any reserve. I did not attempt to purposely fragment the file system. It's clear that this could make a big difference. However, since '94, it doesn't seem to have made any difference. For one thing, my file systems don't tend to fill up beyond 95% very often.

      After three years of heavy use on my current system, my worst file system shows 3% files as not contiguous. These files may be ones that are newer, and may have heavy use - I don't know. However, the file system does not seem to be significantly slower than it was when it was new.

      If I had a defrag utility, I probably would not use it at this time. I would be more inclined to perform a backup, perform an exhaustive disk test, recreate the file system, and perform a restore. The disk hasn't been tested in three years. My oldest drives died at about 8 years. It's probably time to test it.

      There just does not seem to be much requirement for an in-place defrag utility for Linux ext2. There may be one for other Linux file systems. I do not view the lack of a defrag utility as a defect in Linux, but rather high praise for ext2.

      In the V7 Unix days, the file systems naturally fragmented. Files were contiguous only when the file system was freshly created. The backup/recreate/restore proceedure was the only way to defrag a disk. Since this required the file system to be off line for the duration, and since these were expensive multi-user systems, it did not happen often. I tended to do it for relatively static file systems, such as /usr, and then only very infrequently. Even so, there was not much performance difference.

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      -- Stephen.
  58. But computers are universal devices by Cryogenes · · Score: 1
    Like Turing machines, computers are universal devices. You cannot make a "work computer" that cannot convert a divx into video signals or an mp3 into audio signals. A device without these capabilities is not a computer and will not be able to run your "work programs" either.

    Do you believe in death after life?

    1. Re:But computers are universal devices by catfood · · Score: 1
      Like Turing machines, computers are universal devices. You cannot make a "work computer" that cannot convert a divx into video signals or an mp3 into audio signals. A device without these capabilities is not a computer and will not be able to run your "work programs" either.

      Shhhhh. Maybe Congress won't notice.

      More seriously, that's where the line needs to be drawn legislatively. If "they" simply must have their DRM-enabled computers, fine. If they arm-twist Intel or someone else into making them available, whatever.

      But they have to live with the idea that a Turing-complete computer of sufficient power is enough to get at their "content" given enough time and effort, however strongly it's encrypted. DMCA already makes doing this illegal however, so any excuse of "content protection" for needing SSSCA bites it.

      Maybe that's the proper approach to lobbying against SSSCA-style bills. Point out that circumvention of content controls is already a felony. Banning general-purpose computers (as ludicrous as it sounds) far exceeds what is needed to protect anyone's copyright. Again, that's already covered by DMCA.

      What problem it is that SSSCA is supposed to solve? Surely it can't be unlicensed copying, because DMCA covers that no matter what kind of computer you have. Could it be that the "content providers" want no alternatives to their product?

      Long story short: let's use the truly awful DMCA as a defense against the even more horrible SSSCA. That analysis is familiar to geeks, but it needs to go farther.

      Decent arguments could be made that SSSCA would violate Amendments 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, and 10. Fortunately, even more recent Supreme Courts--no friends of the Bill of Rights--have tended to throw out laws that don't meet the "compelling interest" standard. I can't imagine how the government could claim a "compelling" need to violate six amendments to prevent unlicensed copying of copyrighted material--which is already illegal.

      Obviously Hollings needs to be thrown out of the Senate for even thinking out loud about something so blatantly unconstitutional. Pig.

    2. Re:But computers are universal devices by ethereal · · Score: 1

      It's time for the "three strikes" amendment - any legislator who votes in favor of three separate laws which are later found to be unConstitutional shall be summarily removed from office. I'm OK with also trying them for treason, but I understand that everyone else isn't quite so worked up about that :)

      Of course, then we immediately be getting rid of the top two-thirds of both chambers. But that's not such a bad thing, is it? When you think about it, people with power who don't feel themselves bound by the Constitution are a hell of a lot more of a danger to the Republic than drug users, pedophiles, or even terrorists.

      Must stop now, I feel a rant coming on...

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      Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

  59. Re:Rupert Murdoch, please come to the courtesy pho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy sweet Jee-yazuz! Are you serious? Methinks you have become too accustomed to hearing only the left's views, and it insults you to be subjected to differing opinions. The fact of the matter is, Fox News presents a 50/50 balance of left wing vs. right wing views! ABC, NBC, CBS, and most especially Disney all positively fester with rabid left wing sentiment. If you consider those networks conservative, you are a very scary individual.

  60. Re:my first defective CD - FYI by GodHead · · Score: 2

    99% of the CD's that do this can be handled by opening CDplayer.exe and hitting play. It is ADware crap, but it isn't copy protection as almost any ripper software will grab it.

    --
    Just wait till some crappy band steals your nic.
  61. Walt Dizzy? by Noel · · Score: 2

    The last time (actually, first, last and only time) I was at Disney World, in a tribute to Walt himself, I saw this him quoted:

    Our heritage and ideals, our code and standards -- the things we live by and teach our children -- are preserved or diminished by how freely we exchange ideas and feelings

    If this is Walt's view, then Eisner & Co. must have him spinning in his grave!

  62. Re:Rupert Murdoch, please come to the courtesy pho by ethereal · · Score: 1

    An interesting side note on the whole liberal v. conservative thing: when driving home last night I heard an interesting piece on NPR (bet you can guess which side of liberal/conservative that puts me on :) about Judicial Watch. This organization was put together from scratch in '94, primarily with donations from conservative groups and individuals, in order to generally harass the Clinton administration over their various illegal and questionable activities. They were the poster child for conservative attack dogs.

    But now that there's a new administration, apparently Judicial Watch is still on a roll, taking on the Bush administration! They're currently going after, among others, House Whip Tom Delay for selling access to the Bush administration. Apparently this is causing a bit of consternation among conservatives, who had assumed that Judicial Watch was bought and paid for and would stay that way :)

    So my point, if I even have one, is that there are still individuals and organizations out there who are insane, cranky, or perhaps actually even principled enough to take on whomever is letting down their country. It made me happy to hear about this; hopefully it will brighten your day a little too.

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    Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

  63. trolls can submit stories :)= by timothy · · Score: 1

    And frequently do.

    Some people prefer to make others miserable rather than happy, and some seem to have mixed motivations. I think submitting real stories / information would be a much more pleasant use of time than trolling, overall, but ... hey, malice and nihilsm have their own charms, apparently. Escape from Mordor where the shadows lie and all that.

    timothy

    --
    jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
    1. Re:trolls can submit stories :)= by global_diffusion · · Score: 1

      I actually get a kick out of surfing at -1. If it's late and I have tons of work to do before the morning, I like to take breaks to read some good trolls. I pick a story with > 400 replies (preferably about linux or windows), click on 'highest scores first' and then go to the last page at -1.

      I admit that most Trolls are boring (lyrics, links to goatse.cx, etc.), but there are a few that are rather funny. Then there are the trolls that get modded to around '3: Interesting', which are another case entirely.

  64. If you want Fritz to notice about the SSSCA... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2

    ... write your letter, letting them know that you're a lifelong Democrat and enclose a copy of your contribution check made out to the Green Party (the larger, the better). Send a copy of the letter and the check to the DNC, as well. His aides will get hit with a cluestick really, really fast.

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    That is all.
  65. Dear Sen. Hollings. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excuse me if this is a bit long, but...

    1) The tech is there now. Software and hardware. All Hollywood could concievably need to roll out god knows how many forms of pay downloads, pay-per-view, pay-per-play, etc. They just want somebody else to pay for implementing it, and they don't give a shit if it cripples our computers and networks, stifles the development and deployment of even better security (among other things), or entails yet another intrusive, stifling, and costly, government bureaucracy. They are a bunch of fucking parasites, sir, looking to duck costs and use men-with-guns and and taxpayers' money to get a better return than a free market would provide otherwise. They're lazy and greedy and don't want to subject themselves to the vicissitudes of supply and demand. They want to guarantee full ticket price that they decide upon in advance, for everything, not what the market will bear, unlike the rest of us mortals who are rightly derided as unrealistic leeches if we act the same way. Instead of negotioting contracts and licenses with software developers, manufacturers, ISP's, etc., they want the govt. to step in and club everyone into submission if they don't hop into line and do the entertainment industry's work for them at no charge, and regardles of the cost to third parties, both in direct economic terms and in terms of reduced choice, crippled computers, and permanently hobbled technical innovation, at least for the law-abiding.

    I'll grant that you're a politician, not a technologist, and you maybe don't understand how requirements such as those Mr. Valenti et al. seek to impose would cripple the hardware in many areas entirely unconnected to copy-protection issues, and would stifle not just future innovation, but past achievements. So I won't call you a bald-face d liar here, but I will assure you that it's true, and that, furthermore, you are antagonising the entire population of technically literate people, who do know that it is, and who also know it would seriously diminish the liberating freedom of the personal computer, in all kinds of areas that have nothing to do with "pirating"* software who are aware of it's historical, consciously-intended role as such, who *know*, with all due respect, that you're talking out your ass here, and who will not take this lying down.

    2)If anyone else does this without a Senator in their pocket, we are rightly called extortionists. They've already got you benevolent, wise leaders to make copyright effectively perpetual. This is not what the founders intended, to invest some God-given property right in created works. Only to stimulate creation via a temporary exchange. Truth be told, sir, these bastards, who do not create themselves, but hire it done for far less than it's worth, generally, are the real pirates, and they would deserve to be stolen from, except that historically, "piracy" has *always* benefited the content producers and distributors in the long run. They've even been known to discreetly promote it in marketing campaigns. The software industry learned these lessons twenty years ago, and either employ bulletproof copy protection when it's required (without any bullshit laws needed. Pardon me, but you need to realize that most of us outside of Washington do indeed see most of what Congress does as utter bullshit.) or eschew it when they prefer market share and volume demand instead. The self-serving fabrications of opportunistic third-party vultures like the BSA notwithstanding.

    I am digressing slightly, but truth be told, "piracy" is not the real issue here. What's really happening is that some people are not happy with just owning AOL, which for the most parts panders only to the rubest of manipulable consumer sheep, and want to take over the rest of the computer industry, that dangerous upstart empowering all those pesky, smart, little players out there, the better to manage them.

    It's a flat out power grab. They want bring the entire tech industry under their thumb. This is an utterly unrealistic goal they can't even hope to achieve with help from actors with more clout even than the banks they own. Or even the incalculable power to shape public perception and opinion that they have. What they don't understand is that you can't always buy that kind of help with mere money. A hundred Senators can only be reliably had for sale only if their next election is not in serious question as a result. Which is exactly what anything like your SSSCA would entail, becuase it pisses too many of all kinds of dedicated opponents whose very survival is threatened by it, whereas all it does for the entertainment industry is attempt, ineffectually but at great cost, to cement an existing privilege to plunder the public at large, which is *already* deeply resented.

    You would be well-advised to dissociate yourself from this endeavor, and you would be very much doing them a favor, sir, to offer them some sage advice in exchange for their generous campaign contributions and all the sweetheart movie projects they send to S.C., to wit: It's too late, you should have said something 30 years ago.
    Nowadays there is a computer store on main street along with the bank, the insurance agent, the car dealership, etc. Not only are you pissing of some big players, anybody who uses a computer, *and* John.Q. Settop, but the mass of the petty bourgeois, as well. Not only that, but there are a thousand and one ways for mass circumvention of anything we could do, once people decide to refuse to put up with it and start breaking and bending laws on a wholesale basis, as is certain to happen if anything like this law is passed. Especially with all that old, unregulated hardware out there. So forget about it. You're biting off more than you can chew. Get a life and deal with it, like everybody else has to.

    2) You're flying in the face of the numbers here, to put things in practical political terms. There are way more "pirates" out there, real or potential, in addition to everyone above, even among your damyankee :-) retiree Disney stockholder constituents in Hilton Head, Beaufort, Bluffton, Del Webb Sun City, etc. than there ever will be oligarchs who own movie studios and distributors. Frankly, sir, you need to review the fundamentals of democratic, representive government, particularly if you want to get reelected.

    Yours respectfully,
    --rgb

    * Quote marks included because the copyright moguls also want to make existing, established, fair use criminal.

  66. It's not a "defective" CD, it's a defective OS by mbessey · · Score: 2

    More likely, this disk has multiple sessions - one CDDA session and one ISO9660 session. These disks are commonly referred to as CD-Extra disks.

    The way this is supposed to work is that your computer should access both sessions, and you should be presented with both the Data and audio - this way you can enjoy the music as well as the additional data - links to interesting websites, lyrics to the songs, karaoke sing-along, etc.

    Unfortunately, most (all?) versions of Windows are too stupid to know what to do with a multi-session CD. They will only show you the data session automatically.

    There are two simple solutions to this problem:
    1. Start the Windows CD player manually, and it should find the audio session automatically.
    or
    2. Use an OS that doesn't suck (Mac OS handles these disks just fine, for instance).

    -Mark

  67. Re:Rupert Murdoch, please come to the courtesy pho by Catbeller · · Score: 2

    I'm aware Judicial Watch is on the attack against the current administration. It is surprising, and should be a warning to all fanatics everywhere -- be careful what you wish for; you may just get it. In this case, they wanted an attack dog, forgetting that sometimes a badly trained dog will bite the trainer.

    Hm. You know, about those documents everyone wants to see about the task force. You all are /.ers -- you know what a Honey Pot trap is.

    Those documents may be a honey pot. The Boys from Texas may have a cute little secret -- there may be no record of egregious dealmaking or influence in those supoenaed docs. The communications may have been off the record, in a more social milleu.

    When those docs are finally analyzed, the GAO and JW may find that there isn't anything incriminating -- and the WH may score a calulated victory in the public's eye, with the aim of building polical capital against the next time they refuse to give up public records. The current president's people are ruthless, and are capable of such a simple trick. Beware a honey pot!

  68. Re:Rupert Murdoch, please come to the courtesy pho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The current president's people are ruthless"

    Hahahahaha.
    Both of them are motherfuckers but compared to Clinton and what he did to various people, Bush is a fucking saint.
    You must be paid by someone to write this shit or just stupid ...