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Apple @ MacWorld Tokyo

rschroeder writes "Apple updated several products at MacWorld Tokyo tonight (or tomorrow morning). A $499 10-gig iPod, with, get this, custom laser engraving on the back, ($49 extra) and vCard support. They also announced a $49 USB bluetooth module, shipping in April, with beta drivers availble today. Among other tricks, Jobs synced a Clie with a mac via bluetooth. Also a new 23" (1920x1200 )Cinema Display. Jobs also said they're raising the price of the iMac due to LCD and RAM cost increases. All this courtesy MacMinute.com's live coverage." Maccentral has several stories about Jobs' keynote at the convention.

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  1. Monitor envy by faust2097 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was waiting for someone to outdo the 22" Cinema Display, funny it was Apple that ended up doing it themselves.

    1. Re:Monitor envy by jimbolaya · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sun has a 24.1" LCD display, which offers the same resolution of the new Apple display, though about $1000 more (from what I've read from other sources). Still, I drool over the Apple display.

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    2. Re:Monitor envy by frinkster · · Score: 4, Informative

      This new monitor has a much higher pixel density than the 22" LCD. The old 22" LCD had a density of about 85 pixels per inch while this new 23" LCD has a pixel density of about 100 pixels per inch. Nice!

    3. Re:Monitor envy by daviddennis · · Score: 4, Informative

      If I had the money, I'd be in line at the Apple Store to buy it the second it opened tomorrow (or whenever it actually became available).

      As it is, I'll be saving my pennies, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if I buy one with my next Mac, later this year.

      That's how much I love using high-resolution displays.

      I currently have a SGI 1600SW display, which is the same resolution as the Cinema Display, but smaller. Even with this 1600x1024 display, I run out of screen real estate with painful ease. Increasing it to 1900x1200 would really help me. A lot.

      I think almost anyone involved in video, especially with Final Cut Pro's screen-gobbling new features, would feel the same.

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    4. Re:Monitor envy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative


      There are other reasons to go LCD over CRT - one is EMI. For example, if you do audio production the EMI from CRTs bleeds in through electric guitar pickups resulting in nasty buzz. EMI could be a concern in other environments as well - such as lab settings when in the range of sensitive test equipment. Also, I have heard that it is easier for your eyes to focus on an LCD than a CRT.

    5. Re:Monitor envy by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 2, Informative

      Perdo, I don't think you understand HOW video editors use their monitors. The absolute picture quality is not at issue because you always use a real D1 monitor for looking at your actual output (interlaced video and strict video phosphor primary specs makes this essential). What editors DO require is tons and tons of real estate, low heat output and the low flicker doesn't hurt. These Apple Cinema displays are absolutely spot-on for Avid or FCP work, it's just a shame that they cost so damn much. I would LOVE to have one.

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  2. Info on the new iPod software by MotownAvi · · Score: 5, Informative
    I just installed the new 1.1 software on my 5gb iPod with no difficulty. Comments:

    Contacts: The way this works is that when you upgrade to 1.1, you get a top-level folder on the iPod named "Contacts". Drop .vcf files in there, and you're off. Cute, but since I have my Palm all the time, it's less useful to me.

    Equalizer: Can't comment since I haven't set it for any songs.

    Now Playing: Pressing the center button when playing a song no longer switches between elapsed time and time remaining. The normal display now shows both. If you press the button, you get the diamond-in-the-rectangle of iTunes, and you can use the dial to shuttle backwards and forwards. Trés cool.

    Shuffle: You can now choose between shuffling between songs or between albums. I'm not quite sure what that means.

    Bugs fixed: The bug where pausing and then unpausing would land you somewhere totally else appears to be fixed. Another bug where the iPod would cut songs off at the end is also fixed. Alas, the one that prevents "Dvorak" (with the accent over the r) from displaying properly is still present.

    Easter Egg: It's still there, in the Legal section off the Settings main item.

    And of course, more languages that I don't understand.

    Avi

  3. One more thing... by S-prime · · Score: 4, Informative

    iTunes 2.04 was also (quietly) released, nothing new here except better stability.

    Also, the Bluetooth update won't be avaliable for download till April (this from Apple's site).

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  4. iMac prices up $100 by Van+Halen · · Score: 2, Informative
    Apple also announced a $100 price increase on all three iMacs. I guess their profit margin couldn't quite absorb the increase in LCD and memory prices lately.

    Also, The Mac Observer has a nice blow by blow of Steve's keynote.

    Otherwise, cool stuff!

  5. Re:More expensive Mac hardware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    uh, the old hard drive (the LITTLE BITTY ONE) was about the old list price of the ipod. these hard drives are not your run of the mill maxtors! of course its gong to be more expensive!
    plus you get the mp3 player too :)

  6. Price Breaks for Students by PMAvers · · Score: 4, Informative

    A little tidbit for those college students/those with parents/friends in the education industry. Try going to the Education Apple Store, things are cheaper for 'ya.

    Example: 5 GB iPod: $369 (Normally $399)
    10 GB iPod: $469. (Normally $499)

    Hey, $30 off isn't too bad. Just trying to get the word out.

    1. Re:Price Breaks for Students by GrBear · · Score: 4, Informative

      And just remember, if you live in Canada, come January 1st. 2003, you'll likely be paying an extra $210 GOV'T REGULATED MUSIC TAX ($21/gig) on that shiney new MP3 player. Arg!

      Guess I'm going to have to break down and buy one before xmas.

    2. Re:Price Breaks for Students by Queer+Boy · · Score: 2, Informative
      what possible academic value does an iPod have? If none, then what's the point of academic pricing again? Not that I'm complaining, mind you (me want bargain!)

      Music students typically carry around a load of CDs and DAT with current songs they are trying to learn, or pieces they are studying. Putting all of that on an iPod would make it easier (and is faster than transferring to tape or burning a CD). The iPod is also a 5 or 10 gig hard drive, which has similar academic value as a Zip drive.

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  7. Macworld Tokyo 2002 Info by Metrollica · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Macworld Conference and Expo/Tokyo 2002 website is here with information on the event and the exhibits.

    There is also a thread at Macrumors on the event.

    Those wanting to watch the keynote are out of luck because there are no plans to broadcast it this year, like they have done in the past.

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  8. Some Good Articles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Maclegion.org has a few good articles about this stuff. Their best is on the new disply and is worth checking out.

  9. Re:Not yet mastered. by Publicus · · Score: 3, Informative

    While I agree that the high end computers are more fun and interesting (from a marketing/sales perspective). The lower cost machines are what is going to make money.

    Not sure I agree with you. While I may be wrong, the G4 towers probably make more money for Apple (per unit) than anything. I doubt if they make much of anything on the iMac. It's probably just more of a maintaining market share thing, keeping it a viable platform so software gets released for Macs.

    I could be totally wrong, I haven't looked at any numbers, but my gut tells me that the $3500 dual processor G4 tower and the Cinema Display carries a much larger margin for Apple. Not sure how the total sales of these units factors in.

    Oh well... I can't afford any of it. I wish I could.

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  10. Re:Clie sync? by moof1138 · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a beta that has been out since late December, Apple even has a page dedicated to it:

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/applications/palm/

    The release notes for Palm Desktop for Mac OS X said the Clie was supported, and I can synch my Handspring via USB just fine. There are also a lot of conduits available or in progress on the page.

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  11. regarding price increases by BigBir3d · · Score: 2, Informative

    the price of memory went up for the iBook's too. it was $300 for the 512MB upgrade, it is now $400, well that's what it was when it went up nearly 2 weeks ago. the salesperson actually told me to not waste my money on "Apple memory" and do what she did, buy it online! (course i saved myself even more...)

  12. Re:Is there a list somewhere... by rehannan · · Score: 3, Informative
  13. Re:Not yet mastered. by daviddennis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, the margin on the iMac is 20%, and the margin on the high-end Tower is 30%. They all have to sell pretty well for Apple to make its profit targets.

    I think these price increases was so they could maintain the 20% margin. Otherwise their shareholders get pretty upset.

    I'm not sure what the margin on the new Cinema Display is, but the only people who will buy it are seriously rich hobbyists and seriously professional graphic artists and motion graphics/video editing people. That's a rich audience, but the whole market for that thing is a few thousand people.

    At least they undercut Sun, who is charging $4,500 (versus $3,500) for what looks like almost the same thing.

    Sun beat them to market, though.

    D

  14. Price Breaks for Everybody!!! by dhovis · · Score: 3, Informative
    Even better:

    5GB iPod (refurbished) for $339 from store.apple.com (Click on "Special Deals"). Comes with the same 90 day warranty as a new iPod.

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  15. iPod will play uncompressed AIFF files by sfgoth · · Score: 3, Informative

    No lossless compression, but you can still store several 600MB CDs of audio.

    iPod specs

    -pmb

  16. Re:Did Apple steal it? by batobin · · Score: 2, Informative

    To reply to my own original post:

    I did some research, and it turns out Apple implimented the contact feature much better than anyone else has previously. The other poster was correct to say that it now runs off of vCards. Very cool.

    Also, to reply to what someone else said. The new iPods (and all the old ones updated by the new iPod firmware) can indeed support Ogg Vorbis. Very cool!

  17. Re:who cares about contacts - use vcf by confu2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can use VCF files to make todo lists/display random text data.

    And it's a heck of a lot easier and more elegant than setting up mp3 tags.

    begin:vcard
    version:3.0
    fn:To Do List
    title:1) Write Perl Script\n2) Write .vcf file\n3) Copy to contacts folder on iPod
    end:vcard

    Voila.

  18. Every iPod has custom engraving already by KFury · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check the back of your iPod. Under the edched logo you'll find your iPod's serial number etched in as well, and it matches the serila # you'll find in 'settings'.

    Kinda cool, kinda unnoticed.

  19. Re:the prices goes UP? by tonywong · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think that's a 2.5" drive wrapped in a simple case. The iPod uses a PC Card sized HD which costs significantly more.

  20. Re:What's on my mind is... by Ford+Fulkerson · · Score: 4, Informative
    Guess the transition period needs to be lengthened now.

    The transition was completed at MacWorld in January when all Macs started shipping with Mac OS X as default. What else is needed to complete the transition?

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  21. Re:sounds fair by d0n+quix0te · · Score: 2, Informative

    Corrections:

    They were profitable in the 1st qtr (a good achievement given the circumstances), 2nd qtr may be a different issue.

    Also they have > $4 billion in the bank.

  22. A little more on the iPod 1.1 update: by clemens · · Score: 2, Informative

    1. It can correctly display some previous undisplayable Chinese characters now, which is a great saving: a very common character that is used in Chinese names can now been seen. It was such an eye-sore!

    2. There used to be a track in my iPod that would freeze up the machine. Now the problem is gone.

    Good job, Apple!

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  23. Re:AirPort vs Bluetooth by Dorf_of_Eleven · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've just finished playing with loads of Bluetooth gadgets - a CompactFlash Card for my PocketPC, a module for my cell phone, a PCMCIA card for my laptop, and a Bluetooth printer. All performed flawlessly, beyond my expectations.

    Any effect on my 802.11b? Nope, nodda. Why? Because I'm one guy, and I'd need to push myself to use both networks to their limits at the same time. Perhaps the Bluetooth-802.11b interaction makes a difference at an office, but really... if it's that big o' thing, tell the Bluetooth guy to go stand in the corner (out of range) :)

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  24. Re:sounds fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The PIII, Duron, and G4 are not equivalent performers clock-for-clock if you are running actual software on them. Put the systems side-by-side and run applications (especially graphical applications) and see for yourself. You just look like a fool when you grab onto flamebait like spec benchmarks and try to teach something to people who actually use the systems. It's dumb. The benchmarks were done on a Mac with one of its CPU's disabled, and the code did not use Altivec at all. It's not real-world in any way. In the real world, both CPU's are utilized, all Mac software that needs it uses Altivec, and the design efficiencies throughout the system enable better performance from graphical apps and the interface makes the user more productive.

    We Mac users have all SEEN PC's ... we're not at the South Pole with Macs congratulating each other on 1GHz clock speeds. P4's at 2.2GHz running Windows simply are not better machines than G4's at 2x1GHz running Mac OS X. Sorry, they're not. The more graphics and DSP you do (video, audio, graphics) then that stacks things even more in the Mac's favor, with Altivec and the PPC's graphics-optimized functions, as well as Mac OS X being designed for modern tasks like these.

  25. Re:iPod desinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Technically, when you say "it", you are assumed to be referring to the last noun. In this case, "it" refers to "solid-state memory cache". They are trying to explain that "solid-state" means "no moving parts". The whole point of the cache is to contain the actual data you're hearing now and 20 minutes into the future, so you don't ever play directly from the hard drive. This avoids skips and the hard drive can sleep while the music plays out of the cache.

    Apple's marketing speak is no worse than anyone else in the industry. I've never been disappointed with an Apple product, and I've found that if you want to know the specs on something, you can find them on apple.com. With the iPod, there is a ton of info at apple.com/ipod.