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Build Your Own Monorail

jpatokal writes "Building your own roller coaster may be fun, but how about something a little more practical -- like a monorail in your back yard? Kim Petersen designed his from scratch, building the elevated track from wood, scavenging the engine from a motorized walker and handcrafting the train from sheet metal. Total cost: $4000! See the photo tour and the construction history."

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  1. Mirror by BrianGa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google has a cache of the text.

  2. Um, say what? by Slash+Veteran · · Score: 5, Funny
    but how about something a little more practical

    More practical?

    More practical for someone who needs a tram in their backyard? K.

    What would be more practical for the referenced site is a webserver than handle more than 5 hits per hour.

    1. Re:Um, say what? by SkewlD00d · · Score: 2

      He must have the webserver running on the roller-coaster's control system.

      I'd rather put a runway or a race track in my backyard, but I think I'll try a shed first.

      "You been wackin' in my tool-shed again, boy?" -- Hank Hill, B&B.

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    2. Re:Um, say what? by John_Booty · · Score: 2

      What would be more practical for the referenced site is a webserver than handle more than 5 hits per hour. maybe he's using that other guy's Game Boy!

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  3. The money might be better spent... by jcsehak · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...fixing the potholes. But if he has a catchy jingle, I'm all for it!

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    1. Re:The money might be better spent... by Loligo · · Score: 5, Funny


      >...fixing the potholes

      Fixing potholes? Bah. That'll never put Ogdenville, North Haverbrook, or Brockway on the map. Sheesh.

      Some people.

      -l
      The kids can call me "Ho-Ju"!

    2. Re:The money might be better spent... by felipeal · · Score: 2

      Of course, he is twice as smart as the people in Shelbyville (now we know where the roller coaster guy leaves).

  4. Insurance by Dak+RIT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And how much does having a $4000 monorail in your backyard increase your home owners insurance? :p

  5. How Appropriate... by cscx · · Score: 2, Funny

    (to be sung in the key of C...)

    [Lyle Lanley] Well sir, there's nothin' on earth like a genuine, bonafide, electrified, six-car monorail! What'd I say?

    [Ned Flanders] Monorail!

    [Lyle] What's it called?

    [Patty & Selma] Monorail!

    [Lyle] That's right, monorail!

    [All chant] Monorail, monorail, monorail...

    [Ms Hoover] I hear those things are awfully loud!

    [Lyle] It glides as softly as a cloud!

    [Apu] Is there a chance the track could bend?

    [Lyle] Not on your life, my Hindu friend!

    [Barney] What about us braindead slobs?

    [Lyle] You'll be given cushy jobs!

    [Grandpa] Were you sent here by the devil?

    [Lyle] No, good sir, I'm on the level.

    [Chief Wiggum] The ring came off my pudding can.

    [Lyle] Take my pen knife, my good man!
    I swear it's Springfield's only choice;
    Throw up your hands and raise your voice!
    Monorail!
    What's it called?
    Monorail!
    Once again!
    Monorail!

    [Marge] But Main Street's still all cracked and broken...

    [Bart] Sorry, mom, the mob has spoken!

    [All] Monorail! Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!

    [Homer] Mono- d'oh!

    1. Re:How Appropriate... by connorbd · · Score: 2

      Trolling pedantic AC useless mofo...

      "Unices". Perfectly acceptable. I've been known to use the term "Linuces" as well, but I doubt that's common usage.

      "Boxen" is considered silly, but used. I do believe, however, that "VAXen" is not considered incorrect, though it's not the only term.

      /Brian

  6. Zoning etc? by bagel2ooo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not to certain as I haven't had my own house or type of place where I could build something "in the back." Are there any guidelines/regulations one would have to meet with the city to do this? I mean it seems there could be a lot of safety/security issues with this. I mean there's lots of litigations just over people having a pool in their backyard let alone this. :)

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  7. That guy is pretty brave by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He made raised his track a good tree meters off the ground. If he made it half a m off the ground it would still be a monorail. He must really trust his engineering abilities.

    Of course the guy with a roller coaster was much more brave. His creation would do loops and stuff and looked much less solid.

  8. /.ed already.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sheesh...

    Here's the google cache.

    And in case you don't trust an anonymous post:

    http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:colgaaDa9rM C: www.monorails.org/tMspages/Niles.html+&hl=en&ie=UT F8

  9. Mr Snrub! by tartanboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mr Snrub votes that we spend our money on the nuclear power plant instead...

    Monorail time... just watch the Simpsons quotes roll in!

  10. Creative by SkewlD00d · · Score: 2

    You gotta admit this is a fairly creative project. Wow, this guy must have alot of time and money to spare.

    But, who gets you down from there if your train gets stuck? I dont see any ladders around. Rope ladder maybe?

    What is this thing powerred by? Human-power, electric?

    P.S. Bah, the site seems to be /.ed. Maybe we should find a way to mirror/cache the linked pages automatically so we don't hit some guy's site 1e20 times and cost him $10k in bandwidth usage fees. Just a suggestion.

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  11. Re:C'mon people.... by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Seriously, why in the hell would you want this? "

    Rail building materials: $4,000

    Roses to sooth diplomatic relations with your wife: $100

    Being the coolest dad on your block: Priceless

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  12. This is on the wrong site! by laeraun2 · · Score: 3, Funny



    This is more of a shelbyville.org story

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  13. In case of emergency... er... slashdotting... by cscx · · Score: 4, Informative

    Click here!

  14. Tim the Tooooolman TAYLOR!! by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, check it out! It's their next door neighbor Wilson!:

    http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/nmt10.JPG

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  15. Dont mod me down if it becomes un /. ed by spike+hay · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems to be /.ed. Here are the google caches:

    main page

    monorail history

    Photo tour

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  16. From the Monorail Simpsons episode... by AnimeFreak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quimby: And now, I'd like to turn things over to our Grand Marshall, Mr. Leonard Nimoy.
    Nimoy: I'd say this vessel could do at least Warp Five.
    [appreciative laughter from the crowd]
    Quimby: And let me say, ``May the Force Be With You!''
    Nimoy: [annoyed] Do you even know who I am?
    Quimby: [indignant] I think I do. Weren't you one of the Little Rascals?

  17. Re:Possums included? by Wag · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I named the big one bitey!" - Homer Simpson

  18. Other railroads nearby by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative
    It's appropriate that this is in Niles. It's the home of the Niles Canyon Railway, a full-scale hobby railroad.

    Also nearby is the Redwood Valley Railroad, which is in slightly larger scale than the monorail and runs half-scale steam trains. Redwood Valley has quite a layout, with a roundhouse, turntable, sidings, bridges, and tunnels.

    Niles was once the Western terminus of the first transcontinental railroad. So there's much railroad history there.

  19. Maglev.. by BerserkDog · · Score: 2, Funny

    O.K. Someone want to go in with me on a backyard maglev?

    1. Re:Maglev.. by Rhinobird · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about a back yard space port?

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    2. Re:Maglev.. by connorbd · · Score: 2

      I thought of doing something like this as a kid, but I had neither expertise nor money.

      Maglev would be fun, but let's be honest about this: you'd be doing it for hack value only, because the ride wouldn't much be worth the trouble. The monorail is pretty cool, but I suspect it would get pretty old quickly (maybe build a station at the garage and the pool it would be worth it?

      /Brian

  20. Build it...then blow it up. by Artifice_Eternity · · Score: 2

    And issue your own customized terrorism warning!

  21. funny $%^ by CanadaDave · · Score: 2
    That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen! Did you see the pic with the real live train wizzing by in the background! That would have looked really funny if you were the one inside the train watching that guy on his monorail.

    Just imagine the real estate ad when the guy tries to sell the place: "3 bedroom, 2 baths, large kitchen, livingroom, backyard with pool, surrounded by a large garden, and a wooden monorail track which circles the house. Perfect for getting from the basketball court to the pool. It may take longer than walking, but it's fun!"

  22. Re:Dont mod me down if it becomes un /. ed by lostchicken · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hey! This could be the first time that more than 10 people have gone to the monorails.org in a day.

    Look around when you're there, and you'll learn why the monorail is a practical, underused, safe form of transport. It's been stigmatized by Disney. (I've been a monorail advocate for some time) It's a very cool site.

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  23. Building a monorail in Seattle... by realyendor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We're working on plans to build an expanded monorail system in Seattle. True, compared to Kim's backyard monorail, it's a little longer (14 miles) and a little pricier ($970M-$1.7B), but it'll haul about 60,000 people per day, and likely turn an operational profit. And it's probably the only transit system in the country created by a citizens' initiative...yes, that's right, no monorail salesman or catchy jingle needed--just a good grassroots campaign! For more info, visit The Elevated Transportation Company. The plan goes to the voters November 2002.

    For info on the campaign (which I'm helping out with--yes, this is a shameless plug), visit Rise Above It All

    1. Re:Building a monorail in Seattle... by dhogaza · · Score: 2

      Why a monorail? The first monorail was built from standard subway car parts but rather than run on efficient, low-friction proven steel-on-steel technology they run on TRUCK TIRES. Complete with the energy loss due to tire deformation, the need to replace them relatively frequently, adding to the tire disposal problem (or Washington's burning highway problem, one result of using recycled rubber in paving material).

      The monorail looks cooler than it is. There's a reason why this is being sponsored by a citizen's initiative while light rail and commuter rail have been driven by your municipal and county governments. Hint - it's not because the monorail makes sense.

      Now that we're on the subject, they should've taken out the Space Needle at the same time they took out the Kingdome. Two of the ugliest structures on the West Coast and we're still stuck with one of them.

    2. Re:Building a monorail in Seattle... by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 2
      Why a monorail?
      Because it doesn't disturb the right-of-way nearly as much as light rail, and is way cheaper to build. All you need are spots for the posts, not the whole damn roadway. In Seattle, the Monorail runs right down 5th Avenue, and cars drive under it no problem. You could run a monorail down the median of just about any freeway with hardly any adverse effects during or after construction.
      There's a reason why this is being sponsored by a citizen's initiative while light rail and commuter rail have been driven by your municipal and county governments.
      Yeah, the reason is simple: There's more money to be made in light rail, so that's who's donating to the pols. The people want monorail, while the pols are delivering less light rail for more money.

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    3. Re:Building a monorail in Seattle... by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

      There's several problems with the light rail plans...

      (1) They're already seriously overbudget, and still not one foot of rail has been put down...

      (2) They're limited by geography... Seattle (and the Puget Sound, which they'll have to serve if they're to cut the traffic problems- Second only to Los Angeles) is actually made up of both peninsulae and islands, varying from extremely steep hills down to marshlands and rivers...

      (3) They're also limited by the NIMBY factor, nobody wants "noise" or the possibility that their cul de sacs could have outsiders passing through their neighborhoods...

      (4) Along the same lines, the reason most existing subway systems are successful (and underground) is due to the fact that the city governments in the early 1900s could get away with literally tearing up whole miles of roadways and waterworks without the consent of their constituents...

      (5) Most importantly: The Puget Sound (like most of Washington state) are *earthquake* zones, requiring several million dollars more in structural reinforcement, permits and inspections to ensure the tunnels don't collapse... The Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) is the safest subway in the world, but the citizens of the bay area paid a heavy price for it's construction... Same story applies for the subway system built in Los Angeles...

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  24. Re:C'mon people.... by willfe · · Score: 2

    Maybe because it's ... what's the word ... "fun"?

    Just because it's something you wouldn't consider fun to research, design, build, and finally ride, doesn't mean others wouldn't. I'd love something like this.

    The bragging rights alone make this endeavour worth the effort :)

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  25. You know, this sounds really bad, but... by cscx · · Score: 2, Funny

    This guy lives in the Bay Area (notice the BART train go past his backyard in the pictures?) Now, from my rudimentary knowledge of geology, the Bay Area is susceptible to earthquakes on a regular basis. Could this spell possible trouble for a home-built monorail?

  26. Ah, Brian Regan. Classic. by jcsehak · · Score: 4, Funny


    [teacher]: Brian, tell me the plural of ox, and use it in a sentence.

    [brian]: Uh, oxen. I saw a herd of oxen.

    [teacher]: Good. Now try "box."

    [brian]: Boxen. I ate two boxen of doughnuts.

    [teacher]: No Brian, it's boxes. Let's try another one. What's the plural of goose?

    [brian]: Geese. I saw a flock of geese.

    [teacher]: Good. Now how about "moose?"

    [brian]: Mee... MOOSEN! I saw a flock of moosen! There were many much moosen! They were in the woodses--woodsen! They were eatinen the foodeninen!

    [teacher]: Brian, you're an imbecile.

    [brian]: Imbecilen!

    (transcribed from memory. probably lots of mistakes)

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  27. Re:Possums included? by Have+Blue · · Score: 2

    No, it's "I call the big one Bitey."

  28. I can't believe... by bmooney28 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can y'all bash the creator of this masterpiece left and right? This is creativity in pure form... a technical wonder... 100 points of "coolness"... one of the most amazing things I have ever seen! I know people who have spent half this much on the game Everquest buying intangible items, yet I doubt such purchases would drum up anywhere near the negative response that spending $4000 on this creation has elicited on Slashdot... Give this guy some credit!

  29. Re:finally by erroneus · · Score: 2

    then again this is comming from the person who has like 9 computers and people wonder if they all actually have real uses

    I beg to differ. If you're forced into running Windows, then having 9 computers is completely justifiable. Consider the stability when running the nine applications you require on nine different machines? Boggles the mind doesn't it?

  30. Monorails in modern transit by jpatokal · · Score: 3, Informative
    Monorails don't really have any place in modern transit. They don't really save any space advantage(the limiting factor is the width of the cars, not of the track) and they aren't any more efficient than your everyday lightrail or subway or whatever else you feel like building. In addition, they tend to be less efficient, and also less stable in turns and such.

    The friendly folks at the Monorail Society might disagree with you on that. Monorails are an efficient solution for crowded cities, since they can be built in the air, and as (by definition) the car is wider than the track they use less space than light rail. Their speed and capacity are more than sufficient for most applications, and they cost a lot less than building subways. This is why there has been a bit of a monorail renaissance lately, with cities as diverse as Las Vegas, Chiba, Kuala Lumpur and Okinawa (Naha) building monorail systems.

    Cheers,
    -j.

    1. Re:Monorails in modern transit by connorbd · · Score: 2

      Well, they're not workable *everywhere*; I grew up near Boston and I can pretty honestly say that there's no place a monorail could fit in without blowing huge holes through downtown (and anyone who knows anything at all about Boston knows that Bostonians are pretty sick of that sort of thing). Might work in Providence, though.

      However, if you have the room for them and sufficient geological stability I think they're a pretty good idea. In a city like Phoenix where everything is fairly new and spread out, yes, it would work; elevated views of a city are often very beautiful as long as it's a nice city (try driving down Boston's Central Artery at night, after most of the traffic is gone).

      /Brian

    2. Re:Monorails in modern transit by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 2
      If Boston doesn't have room for a monorail, then it certainly doesn't have room for conventional rail. Your arguement is like saying swimming pools are stupid because you don't have room for one in your apartment.

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    3. Re:Monorails in modern transit by jpatokal · · Score: 2
      Lightrail can be built in the air just as easily as Monorail. Lightrail trains are also wider than the track (have you ever seen a train that is narrower than it's track?)

      "Track" does not equal just the rails. A light rail train is not attached to its rails, so there is a possibility of derailment. If you build an elevated light trail track, you also have to build a "chute" around the track to prevent a simple derailment from plunging people to their deaths, and this chute must obviously be wider than the train running in it.

      Monorails, on the other hand, wrap around their track and thus physically cannot fall off it (barring truly spectacular structural failure). No chutes needed, so the width of the car itself is the sole determining factor.

      The jury is still out on the efficiency bit, but rubber tires seem to be gaining favor even for light rail. One big reason why is noise: rubber on concrete is a lot quieter than metal on metal.

      Cheers,
      -j.

  31. Sideways forces by kievit · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Looking at the photos I wonder how the construction can be robust against the sideways movements of the 100-150kg person+train. The rail just rests on the pylons, there is no reinforcement that prevents it from toppling sideways. Also the pylons themselves are just pricked into the ground, I see no sideways support bars or so. Apparently these sideways forces are absorbed by the railtrack as a whole. But for a long straight section I would worry that that does not work any more.

    Maybe a mechanical engineer in the audience can enlighten me?

    And, on a side note: can somebody explain to me his remark at the last page of the Tour: This picture just screams "only in America," doesn't it? I find his project very beautiful, but what's so American about it? Is it really unimaginable for US citizens that this kind of impressive creative tinkering also happens in other countries?

  32. Re:C'mon people.... by j7953 · · Score: 2

    To cite someone who built his own jet engine (iirc that was a Slashdot story some time ago as well): "If you have to ask, you will never understand."

    I guess it's like building your own operating system or other such crazy ideas.

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  33. Depends on the city by clark625 · · Score: 2

    Some cities regulate just about everything you could possibly do. That includes permits for decks, patios, sidewalks, trees, etc. It gets rather insane and annoying at times--but this typically is only done in those subdivisions were they want everything to look "similar".

    Most cities, though, don't care much. I have a 15' easement from the road--I cannot build any permanent structures there. After that 15', though, I can build right up to the property line on either side towards my neighbors or all the way back to my fenceline. In the country, things get even more relaxed--you can build just about anything and it's not a problem. Sometimes you are limited to the size you can build a barn without a special permit--but that's generally the worst of it.

    Of course, if I were to do something like this 3m in the air, it would look rather odd around here. Folks don't even have plush gardens. Nope, around here it's mostly just folks who have a deck, a tree or two, a fence, and grass. A monorail in my backyard would the the talk of the city for years.

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  34. Re:once more, this time with rhythm... by connorbd · · Score: 2

    YANAP (You Are Not A Poet), either.

    But yeah... coolest dad on the block points works for me; now all I need are a wife, kids, and a gigantic back yard.

    /Brian

  35. Re:Dont mod me down if it becomes un /. ed by weave · · Score: 2
    It's been stigmatized by Disney.

    Why do you say that? Why do you think this? Disney had a problem with moving a heckuva lot of mob-level crowds between different areas. Getting back and forth between Epcot and Magic Kingdom is pretty easy due to monorail. For other places in the park, they have hundreds of city transit buses.

    When I was there, I thought the monorail did quite well. When the water/fireworks show in Epcot let out, for example, the bus area was a mess and the monorail hauled all manner of people out of the area quickly...

    This is a place you can fly in, get a shuttle into the park, stay all week, get around, and never need to rent a car. I think it works well...

  36. People want to build one in CO by Erbo · · Score: 2
    An advocacy group is promoting the idea of building high-speed monorails in Colorado. The first leg would be from Denver International Airport to Vail, following I-70 for much of the way. The trains would be mag-lift powered, not totally levitating, but reducing rolling resistance on the wheels, and would run at a top speed of 125 mph. Unfortunately, a study project was voted down last November, mostly because everyone was still skittish after the 9/11 attacks and the anthrax scares; the advocacy group looks like it's still persevering. Their Web site has more details, including some artist's conceptions of what the system might look like.

    Eric

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  37. What I wanna see now.... by Racine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We have a roller coaster. We have a monorail.

    I wanna see someone build thier own Subway, complete with two stops and a building over each one.

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    1. Re:What I wanna see now.... by connorbd · · Score: 2

      Okay:

      -I understand the roller coaster thing. There's something cool about being able to make yourself barf without having to wait in line.
      -I understand the monorail, sorta. I'd have set it up a bit differently, but it works. "Garden light rail" (still like that one) fits more or less the same purpose.

      But let's be honest: unless you're going to connect the shed to the garage the whole subway idea is completely useless. The monorail would be more fun for that purpose anyway.

      /Brian